This is meant to be a serious question. Most economists say tariffs are a tax on US consumers, but is that really the case? If foreign producers need to compete on price in the US, they cannot just put 250% on their products, but need to cut their own profits, no? So if Trump gets 1 trillion in tariff income per year, he can balance the US budget and thus reduce prices for US citizens, no?

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By July 2025, tariffs had raised $108 billion in net revenue in the previous nine months, compared to $392 billion in corporate tax and $3.648 trillion in income tax, and comprised 5% of federal revenue compared to 2% historically. Goldman Sachs reported that tariff incidence so far had fallen about 49% on US consumers, 39% on US businesses, and 12% on foreign exporters.

>>512353105 (OP)

The US will lose the ability to compete globally. It'll inevitably become an Argentina-tier basketcase over time. But Trump'll be long dead so what does he care.

>>512353105 (OP)
One aspect of tariffs that people often overlook is that they limit competition, once a product in the USA is protected by a tariff the US price is set higher automatically, no business is going to give a discount when they don't have to. Consumers are actually defending local producers by paying more whether they like it or not, whether the product is worth the price or not.

>>512353105 (OP)
More expensive but the additional effect will be that it forces manufacturing back to the US. That will have a far greater long term positive effect on the economy and will more than make up for price rises in the short term. The bad new is that it will take 2-6 years to rebuild the US manufacturing economy

>>512353223
This is one of the single most monumentally retarded posts Ive seen in a while and is the exact opposite of reality. The US cant compete globally right now because it has barely any manufacturing locally. The only way to compete is to bring that back

>>512353105 (OP)
in our case I think Pharma and Electronics are exempt

>>512353105 (OP)
More expensive for US companies that outsource to 3rd world countries and socialist parasite countries like Germany. The free rides over Fritzie.

>>512353223
Where is the evidence, US businesses are less competitive globally then? 90% of the US economy are software, AI, finance, services… America exports little except for oil and gas and weapons, all of which are tariff exempt globally.

>>512353105 (OP)
>Will Trump’s tariffs make products cheaper or more expensive in America?
I dunno, let's see what happened the last time Trump tried tariffs.

>>512353105 (OP)
More expensive.
Tariffs move wealth towards local producers (men) and away from local consumers (women) and remote producers (chinks and beaners).

>>512353105 (OP)
The goal of tariffs is to make foreign product more expensive to a consumer so that they consider domestic products. The government is shaving off a bit of the profits that foreign companies make, which causes prices to go up because companies need to maintain profitability. So prices go up but the government makes money with the tariff, and then the government makes money again taxing the product.

What Trump isn’t really grasping is how much the Jews have offshored so that there is almost nothing left that is 100% domestic. There is also not really anything stopping domestic companies from also raising prices because why not? Therefore tariffs are causing prices to go up on everything (money coming in through the tariffs) but companies lay off people to maintain stock prices (less taxes coming in) and people spend less money because shit costs too much (less taxes coming in)

We are only not in a depression because of how interconnected companies are globally. However, Americans are rapidly becoming poorer on average and society is already fraying at the seams.

>>512353105 (OP)
It entirely depends on if there is a legitimate domestic alternative. If there isn't a viable domestic option, then it's just a tax for no reason. Ideally, tariff money should be used to invest in domestic industry to create competitive products where none exist (this is not going to happen). What will actually happen is the government is going to get addicted to tariff income as a revenue source in the face of mounting debt problems and an unwillingness to directly raise taxes. Tariffs create a stealth tax that is built into the price of products that you don't see on a receipt, much like gasoline taxes. While tariffs introduced in previous eras were mostly a tax on the wealthy, since only rich people could regularly afford foreign products and the cost of shipping was very high, nowadays most people who depend on cheap foreign goods are the lowest wage earners and tariffs result in a direct tax on the people who can afford it least.

There are also always problems that crop up with protected industries, usually low quality and higher prices because foreign competition that could be both superior in quality and lower in price is boxed out of the market.

I live in a city where John Deere drive a vast majority of the economy.
Not only do they forge and machine parts here, build tractors and tractor parts, but there are also a ton of smaller businesses built around painting, dipping raw parts in rust preventive, storing, shipping, creating custom racks to hold the material, the list goes on and on.

Filling you in in case you had missed it, JD recently opened a plant in Mexico to build tractor cabs that used to be built here in the states, and then have them ship the cabs back to NA.
Thousands of jobs lost in several cities in the Midwest.

Well since these tarrifs have come into effect agaisnt Mexico I have seen almost none of these cabs come back in to the US.
When Trump was playing on/off again with the tarrifs, the flow of cabs would stop/start based on when tarrifs were temporarily paused.

Trust me. It HURT them badly. The pennies they were pinching to have the cheaper labor got sucked up by the tarrifs and now they dont know what the fuck to do because the quality sure as shit went downhill with it too. They have a full time team of several people inspecting and reparing the cabs that come back.

So in terms of large industry, it truly is going to prevent companies from chasing cents and instead invest in bettering their supply chains etc. here.

Manufacturing still requires decent amount of labors. Americans consume way too much over what they can labor. Despite being only 5% of the world's population, Americans consume 1/4 of the world resources and responsible for 30% of the wastes. If US is completely blocked from the world and has all the supply chains, infrastructures and machineries, every American has to work for ~25 hours a day to sustain all the goods they consume

>>512353105 (OP)
Tarriff is just a code word for tax. He is raising the taxes the American consumer pays for items. It will make life harder for working class White Americans and their families.

It would take several years for Americans to see any benefits from the tariffs, but it wont matter because the dems will win/steal the Whitehouse in 28 and they will immediately reverse the tariffs on day one, so all that progress to reindustrialize America will be for nothing.

>>512353105 (OP)
It is quite literally a tax. In the absolute most literally sense, it is a tax. Strictly speaking, a regressive tax that is mostly on the poor. It chiefly taxes the group least likely to be invited to Epstein island.

>>512353105 (OP)
Putting a tax on foreign goods disincentivizes Americans from buying said foreign goods. That's the point and it is not complicated.

Meanwhile you retards try to threaten us by saying you're going to do exactly what we are running away from doing is buying everything from China instead of domestically producing it. Again, not complicated.