What went wrong with the 15 hour work week forecast? - /pol/ (#512354070) [Archived: 55 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: wBk/55s6Hungary
8/6/2025, 9:08:48 AM No.512354070
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In his 1930 essay “Economic Possibilities for our Grandchildren,” John Maynard Keynes famously predicted that by about a century around 2030, technological progress would be so rapid that the “economic problem” of material scarcity would be solved. Leisure, not subsistence, would become our primary purpose, and people would need to work only about 15 hours per week to enjoy a high standard of living.
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Anonymous ID: hm9r4li3United States
8/6/2025, 9:10:33 AM No.512354138
>>512354070 (OP)
If wagies didn't wage, what else would they do?...
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Anonymous ID: s/NEVYmCSouth Africa
8/6/2025, 9:10:45 AM No.512354151
>>512354070 (OP)
>and people would need to work only about 15 hours per week to enjoy a high standard of living.
That happened with WFH, and it's less than 15h a week
Anonymous ID: zOlRzvEzUnited States
8/6/2025, 9:12:46 AM No.512354228
goblins stole it from you.
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Anonymous ID: wBk/55s6Hungary
8/6/2025, 9:14:46 AM No.512354281
>>512354228
I know

>>512354138
too much wagecattle indoctrination is happening starting from the public schools.
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Anonymous ID: hm9r4li3United States
8/6/2025, 9:18:52 AM No.512354417
>>512354281
>public schools
Wagie indoctrination is all that is. That's the fucking goal.
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Anonymous ID: W7HtXB6OUnited States
8/6/2025, 9:21:26 AM No.512354509
>>512354070 (OP)
Economists don't tend to assume a hypothetical nation that's controlled by its enemies who are intentionally extracting its resources and impoverishing its people while importing hostile enemies.

Just as an example, what would the housing market look like without cartel money laundering and infinite african/indian immigrants? And what happens to the job market when a massive fraction of the population owns a home and doesn't pay rent? Additionally, what happens if you further cut the supply of workers in half by sending women back to the home as it was in 1930? How about the efficiency gain of returning to public transit now that it's safe, clean, and comfortable for the native population? How about a return to functional social safety nets when you get rid of the 13% of the population gobbling up 80% of welfare?
Anonymous ID: wBk/55s6Hungary
8/6/2025, 9:21:43 AM No.512354517
>>512354417
fucking bells, bells beeping slave you can eat now, bells beeping you must go to class wagie pupil, they don't even try to hide it
Anonymous ID: 5E7MZm6XUnited States
8/6/2025, 9:37:22 AM No.512355111
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>>512354070 (OP)
"""Free""" trade.
Anonymous ID: a7I0eHr6Romania
8/6/2025, 10:57:09 AM No.512357819
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>>512354070 (OP)
>John Maynard Keynes
did not foresee "people" like Romanians that only see work or productive work as something that must invariably entspring from pain and suffering
it's an extended mentality but basically slaves cannot comprehend that there is better than them and absolutely must drag everything down to the same level or to their own level or else God will smack them down
>about a century around 2030, technological progress would be so rapid
it is and we can
we could also start exploring space but instead we're stuck playing "resource shuffle" between Russia and Ukraine
or who will get fat on the resources and occupy a "work" position where the only yardstick of their performance is how often they show up at work to say hello to the rest of the individuals becuse otherwise they're unqualified to do anything practical
Anonymous ID: d5tauRRQUnited States
8/6/2025, 11:00:31 AM No.512357943
>>512354070 (OP)
He failed to account for the fact that work isn’t about productivity but about how much of your life you can sign away to some psychopathic Jew to satisfy his lust for power. They don’t really care if shit gets done, they just want to be worshipped and feared like gods
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Anonymous ID: oPcHZBWJFinland
8/6/2025, 11:03:20 AM No.512358020
>>512354070 (OP)
Lots of people work less than 15 hours a week. They just spend 40+ hours at the office
Anonymous ID: Zyq7fHVP
8/6/2025, 11:12:25 AM No.512358332
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>>512354138
This
Anonymous ID: P3od2vL9United States
8/6/2025, 11:15:03 AM No.512358414
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>>512354070 (OP)
I've been thinking about Keynes a lot lately. It's a logical system. I still believe in it but it clearly isn't functioning in modern western nations. the mechanisms have been so abused and neutered and bastardized that it's meaningless to even discuss economic theory outside of very specific policy realities.

><3% forever
>oy vey we need to slow down the economy due to all these factors that we personally caused
>goyim need to pay more on loans because
>there is no other way to stop the banks from printing money except to charge the goyim more interest

tiny interest rates as a service fee and risk analysis. bail out yourself if things collapse. always encouraging domestic growth. always. at every level.

Trump's defacto economic theory is convincing. the cascading effects of an interest rate hike hit the wrong people. it's not a question of just leaving it vs raising. it's a question of the basic functionality of keynesian mechanisms in the 2025 clusterfuck.
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Anonymous ID: /rGjhpRIUnited States
8/6/2025, 12:02:59 PM No.512360206
>>512354070 (OP)
It's already happened with many white collar jobs, but people got too lazy and work even fewer than 15 hours per week, so companies have no choice but to hire h1bs or outsource.
Anonymous ID: rH5YEfldUnited States
8/6/2025, 12:44:57 PM No.512361890
>>512358414
this is a hard idea to accept. because it is outrageous. we're fucked. there was a cynics take i heard prob here that described how the Biden admin, aside from dealing with his general dementia addled pederasty, inherited the budget disaster and doom and knew it was fucked and that's part of why they're bailing on everything like the little negress. because it's fucked. fuck it.

in the absolute worst economic scenario anyone could ever predict, there is this one path that actually isn't particularly dogmatic. all conventional dogmas lead to disaster and even the peddlers of those dogmas know it so the only ones running their retard mouths for a side dont know wtf they're talking about. and then there's this one finger pointing at OPTIMISM. and that finger is neck deep in some pedophile blackmail mossad operations with his bff Epstein.

and actually when you really think about it, it's OPTIMISM thru CHRIST because it is an implementation of more usury bad and less usury good. it can't be that simple. that's like just pointing at rule #1 when jews kvetch. it's not allowed to be that simple. surely, you just don't understand the intricacies of the goyvig.

only a real fucking lunatic takes a path like this.
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Anonymous ID: rH5YEfldUnited States
8/6/2025, 12:53:07 PM No.512362231
again
again
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>>512361890
Anonymous ID: MRjZ9AVxLatvia
8/6/2025, 12:55:38 PM No.512362335
>>512354070 (OP)
I think marx already answered this question a long time ago.
Anonymous ID: uZR/L1baUnited States
8/6/2025, 12:57:43 PM No.512362428
>>512361890
>we lost because there was no point and defeat was inevitable
Fatalism is the respite of failures.
>incoming 'ur stupid' stretched out to 500 words like public school programmed you to do
Anonymous ID: xCl5yj/9Canada
8/6/2025, 12:57:45 PM No.512362432
>>512354070 (OP)
Keynes didn't calculate KIKES
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Anonymous ID: xCl5yj/9Canada
8/6/2025, 1:00:21 PM No.512362568
>>512357943
>They don’t really care if shit gets done, they just want to be worshipped and feared like gods
Very true in a lot of ways
They will accept the illusion that something is being done if you are deferential enough
Hence the flood of street shitting niggers
Anonymous ID: f/6Faj23
8/6/2025, 1:01:25 PM No.512362625
>>512354070 (OP)
Jews got into power and stole all the productivity via taxes and money printing
Anonymous ID: GrmU/ClHMoldova
8/6/2025, 1:02:09 PM No.512362655
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>>512354070 (OP)
>What went wrong
Nothing went wrong. You believed that """economics""" is real. In reality, it's just a jewish international cabal monopolizing resources and using technology to oppress you.
Anonymous ID: rH5YEfldUnited States
8/6/2025, 1:03:51 PM No.512362721
>>512362432
basically this. yes.
Anonymous ID: OzsBqwuzUnited States
8/6/2025, 1:04:03 PM No.512362731
>>512354070 (OP)
Niggers, kikes, and 3rd world immigration
Same as everything else
Anonymous ID: rH5YEfldUnited States
8/6/2025, 1:46:29 PM No.512364646
Jerome BTFO
Anonymous ID: SrqNySJXUnited States
8/6/2025, 1:55:50 PM No.512365072
>>512354070 (OP)
He didn't account for jewish greed. What slave owner wants their slave class to have free time and happiness? That just means a smaller fleet of yachts for themselves.