theres no such thing as "$600B investment"

apple is a private company seeking to make a profit meaning its going to make more money than it puts back meaning it will be a drain on the american people more as they collect more share of the countries wealth

where is their profits coming from if theyre just donating 600b to the american people

theyre not donating shit... theyre taking more money

>>512455935 (OP)
Idiot.
Apple has over $1 trillion dollars of virtual digital fake cash - stocks.
That it can sell to create factories in US.

were just building some factories so we can take 1000$ from every girl in the country who buys an iphone in order to enrich ourselves off the country for decades to come keeping you poor

the factory is almost besides the point if all the money is going north

thats just a gateway to facilitate the destruction

>>512456132
no thats real money that investors put in there

the stock will inevitably go back up once they start selling more iphones

trump has ordered tim to build factories that it will make a profit off of netting them a net loss to the united states after you account for the profits that the top stockholders make after they sold all their iphones they built

>>512456335
>no thats real money that investors put in there

No.
The real money maybe 1/100.
The rest is speculation and FED printing of digital fake digits to fake the permanent stock market growth for boomers.

>>512456498
well fed printed money is real money if a congressman scams the money from ukraine and then puts it into apple thats still an real money into the apple stock

so the money is fake but still real

>>512456498
if stacy buys her iphone for $1000 from tim

and she can not buy your snow cones you sell on the street for bobby

that means whatever theyre paying the factory workers to generate that profit for the top stockholders at apple is a net loss when the top ceos take 90% of the profit and they leave a little bit

if she bought your snowcone the americans profit 100% when you go through a big corporation you get like 2% of it for real human people

>>512456568
No.
FED just generate digits in a computer for boomers to play the casino and pretend that stock market casino has a permanent growth.
People who work at Apple got stock options that took 3-5 years to vest.
Some of them got them vested and sold - that's the real money then.
The rest of it is fake digits and speculation.

>when market falls donw and some random company's stock "loses $10 bln dollars "
>that's not real money , that's fake digits in a computer in boomer casino

However . Apple will sell some of its stock, convert it to real money and will make US factories.

>>512455935 (OP)
You are braindead.

>>512456862
ya they might give the employee some stock but it doesnt matter because if the money they were giving out in stock exceeded their profits they would stop doing it because its a private company

meaning they are a net loss on the country

they give out as much stock that will take them to be able to become a trillion dollar empire and leave americans with crumbs

and a few people get like a few shares of apple in the process

>>512455935 (OP)
>businesses operating in an area don't contribute to that area economically
wow, only a commie could be that fucking stupid

If they’re private investments why are they being announced in Washington?

>>512456568
>if a Democrat congressman scams the money from ukraine and then puts it into apple stock - thats still an real money
Yes .
However. Again. Some of war money has been created by FED. Then its not real money it's digits in a computer.

Real money is when Democrats say they are going to put 30 mln illegals on Social Security , Medicare and on food stamps and give them EBT cards.
All of a sudden that's trillions of $ and these illegals start going into the world and buy real products - and inflation shoots up 15%.

>>512457081
they dont they take away from the economy

if tim is taking $1000 from every stacy in every city in america thats $1000 that you can no longer capture for yourself and your family

they will dole out 5% to the employees of their total profits and if stacy bought your lemonade you would keep 100% of that $1000 that you thought was smart to buy a iphone from a megacorporation from

small business vs corporation they are bad for the economy

>>512456335
>>512456568
>rice chaser is dumb as a rock
Shocker

>>512456985
>if the money they were giving out in stock exceeded their profits they would stop doing it because its a private company

Stock is digits generated in a computer, speculation , of FED generated digits.
Apple can split the stock tomorrow, and there will be double the amount of virtual casino digits that they can give to employees as stock options.

>>512455935 (OP)
Trumpnis a weak moron. Everyone is giving him platitudes. No contracts no concrete deals. Just kiss the ring so the weak king feels better. Who would vote for this pathetic hunk of shit?
You won!
Kek

>>512457199
It's not about one town, it's about investing in the country as a whole. I'm sure that Apple outsourcing manufacturing to foreign countries is better for the U.S. though right? Bringing back manufacturing here creates lots of jobs. It's not complicated.

>>512457199
>small business vs corporation they are bad for the economy
Agree here.

>>512455935 (OP)
you lost, tranny

Haven’t you guys played monopoly?
Capitalism doesn’t work. Society is hard to maintian cause it’s not natural. People being ooga booga and knowing 100 people is natural. The only time it works is when it’s mostly state with a little bit of capitalism..

>>512457366
its better for a few people temporarily

at the expense of the whole country

the more iphones there are for stacys to buy up the less money you can capture from stacy at your lemonade stand or food truck or wherever you work

because they bought those iphones now you have to get the money filtered down from tim the ceo and youll get 2$ of that 1000$ that stacy bought

your margin at the taco truck was 50%

instead of 2%

do you understand

>>512457363
Actually he just made huge deals with Europe and is dealing every day hard to make the country better. He really knows what he's doing, more than the last several presidents combined, and it's awesome to see retarded leftoid NPC traitor trash seethe at him and have to lie and make fools of themselves like you. You have no real argument, just kvetching because CNN told you to hate Trump. You are a waste of a human life and should be fed to lions or something that could actually benefit the planet.

>>512457498
Yeah you're explaining the absolute basics of corporations, WE GET IT German thank you! Big corporation bad! Probably correct in your assertion, but that means fuck all in the real world where big corporations rule everything. Lemonade stands don't build countries. Grow up.

>>512457199
Stacy already spends $1000 on a phone.
If the factory is in America that money which is already being spent goes to American workers rather than foreign workers.

>>512457636
they actually do build countries because if all that money went to lemonade often enough you would eventually have him investing in more companies

because hes profitable with lemonade hes able to make drink factories and stuff and it wont have stockholders to please

>>512457498
Huge businesses like that also create tons of jobs and pay tons of taxes to the municipalities they're in.

>>512455935 (OP)
>theres no such thing as "$600B investment"
>its going to make more money than it puts back
Imagine being this stupid.

>>512457739
Then it becomes a big corporation, which is how big corporations came to exist in the first place. Every big business started out small--are you really that stupid? Why do you keep posting pictures of gooks?

>>512457636
>someone is attacking a corporation? CAPTAIN KIKE TO THE RESCUE

>>512457723
ya but if you cut off apple and you just tarriff their chinese iphones you would have 10 new cell phone companies arise in america and you wouldnt need apple anymore which is a greedy company

it would help way more to just cut off iphones so roasties couldnt get them anymore

theyre not gonna buy a 2000$ iphone with 100% tarriff

a lot less of them will

>>512457824
>Corporations bad, let's keep them all out of the country! That will surely help us prosper!
Yeah money is bad too, retard, but Communism doesn't work. Welcome to the real world. This is one of the stupidest threads I have seen in awhile.

>>512457498
There's no production shortage on iPhones.
Expanding iPhone production by opening a factory in America won't cause Stacy to suddenly buy two $1000 phones instead of one.

>>512457797
no it doesnt because its a process of tarriffing and breaking up monopoly to ensure that theres small businesses in place and nobody can become a monopoly its a battle

if u let it get like today that where the problem is

>>512457918
i never said there was

but putting a 100% tarriff on china where they build iphones certainly will put a cap on the amount of women who can afford iphones

freeing up that market for americans

and not allowing them to " invest " in usa

>>512457917
>is that a corporation? better suck their cock

>>512457832
>ya but if you cut off apple and you just tarriff their chinese iphones you would have 10 new cell phone companies arise in america and you wouldnt need apple anymore which is a greedy company
Why would Trump want to arbitrarily destroy a major US corporation that makes up a large part of the US stock market?

>>512455935 (OP)

Private companies create value anon. Free exchange creates value.

>>512458090
as i explained every roastie who has $1000 to buy a iphone every year american men will get some of that money because it wont be going to a iphone

she now has to buy the lemonade for little timmy and you made 10$ so all that money goes to the local economy and you become rich

destroying corporations is the number 1 thing trump could do

>>512455935 (OP)
Go back to r/eddit you subhuman commie faggot

>>512458129
no they dont the iphone is the same as it was 15 years ago the phones havnt gotten better

its a piece of glass they get a new one each year and spend top dollar as a fashion statement

and give factory workers like 2% of the profit and you defend them for it

>>512458015
>no it doesnt because its a process of tarriffing and breaking up monopoly to ensure that theres small businesses in place and nobody can become a monopoly its a battle
There is no cellphone monopoly.
I've never owned an iPhone in my life. My current phone is some Chinese phone. Anyone that owns an iPhone one because they chose to, not because they were forced to by a monopoly.

If there is a monopoly that keeps people buying iPhones it's Apple's wallled garden ecosystem of apps that iPhone users feel obligated to continue using, but tariffs don't have any effect on that

>>512458129
We are in such late stages of capitalism that large companies monopolize niches right now.
And they have so much money or can generate so much virtual digits from their stocks
that they monopolize 100 other niches as well.

>via buying companies
>or bankrupting companies in parallel niches.
If you look at walmart, it banktupted thousands of local small businesses.

German has a point .

>>512458456
i dont mean literally monopoly you retard i mean mega corporation

that is way richer than is humanly making sense for the world

for one business

them buying iphones is hurting americans because it goes to the top jew stockholders

>>512458456
>but tariffs don't have any effect on that

ya it does if you tarriff china 100% or 200% youre not gonna see very many iphones

if they dont attempt to build factories in the usa

which some companies wont bother with it

>>512458207
I'm tiring of this conversation. You're either a child or an idiot.

There are already cheap phones that Stacy can buy. She chooses not to. She deliberately chooses the $1000 option because it signals status. If the Apple brand is arbitrarily destroyed, and Stacy can no longer buy a $1000 iPhone, she will buy a $1000 Samsung instead.
It is unlikely that I will respond further to this thread. There is nothing more to say. If I have not made my point then I am casting pearls before swine

>>512458933
but we will have tarrifs on south korea too

so she will have to buy a motorola or something whatever american company makes a comeback

once you have the money being forced into motorola lets say there will be inevitbly some rich americans who will get together and try to get a piece of that money which expands tthe american technology base

like it was in the 1980s or 1990s when u had american phones competing against eachother

>>512455935 (OP)
You are a Retard.

bampino

>>512455935 (OP)
What a stupid fucking post. Trade can be mutually beneficial. It's possible for Apple to make good on their investment AND for the country to benefit. You're genuinely so stupid that you shouldn't be posting.

>>512460292
are u really benefiting from roasties owning a new 1000$ iphone every year

i havnt

>>512455935 (OP)
>be a drain
Only thing Apple is draining is the world's aquifers fren.

>>512455935 (OP)
It's because America is sick of competition with China in spying on american citizens and wants the whole pie because they clearly deserve it

I agree with fritz

>>512455935 (OP)
>my parents did everything successfully except raise a man
fucking cry baby, it's sad when even women have more personal accountability than op