what is his problem and what does this even mean? lol

why would we need more people when everything is automated?

>>512551863
so billions of browns will inherit a world with everything automated? and then what? what the fuck is your idea about the future? you think all of those things are self-sustainable and does not people to keep running? brown people cant maintain shit

>>512552924
It will need a fraction of the current global population to keep running. like a handful of million at best. What do we need billions upon billions of consumers for if they're not producing anything?

>>512551693 (OP)
>AI makes people even more poor
>they have even less children
genius reddit willy wonka at it again!

>>512553555
>genius reddit willy wonka at it again!
Kek

>>512551693 (OP)
Can you read English, motherfucker

>>512551693 (OP)
Japan has 2 options:
>1. Continually increase its own population (bad idea, since it's an island country with limited space)
>2. learn how to live with a stagnant/decreasing population (this is where AI comes in)
Living with a stagnant population/declining is something the ENTIRE WORLD must learn how to do, because birth rates are declining worldwide, and mass immigration will only destroy our countries while failing to solve the issue in the long term

>>512551693 (OP)
This nigger makes an AI and imports 10000000 jeets to take your job then tells you to have 5 kids.

I seriously think this guy might be retarded.

>>512551693 (OP)
Every cocksucker such as this is at the very least lying by deliberate omission when he issues some panic statement about population decline. You will never see them make the argument just why fewer people is a problem because they know if they say 'because the system cant sustain itself without infinite growth', that they'd be shot; a fate they very much deserve with or without the lying.

>>512551693 (OP)
Or, you know, fix their shitty work/life balance so people have time to start families.

>>512554127
it isnt that their pop is declining, it is that they barely have children. ai will take the stats of one children per a few couple to almost none. the world klaus schwab, elon and zuck envisions is pretty much people living in a virtual reality while stagnating in real life. neets, hikikomori and other weird phenomena are pretty much a technological dystopian thing.

>>512551693 (OP)
Elon told you exactly what smart people were saying for years now, he probably missed few decades but still somewhat correct.
>wellfare induced breeding led us to every single mother fucking problem in this world of today.
This is the only truth, fuck jews fuck niggers fuck jeets fuck chinks fuck spics
Wellfare
breeding
must
be
culled

>>512554760
even the people that have free time are bound by the algorithmic chains purposefully tailored that way by people like elon and zuckerberg. social media is a bigger problem than anything else

>>512555213
of course this does not affect the people that produce such tech. the people they hire, which are outsourced to lesser developed countries, are not bound to that because they do not have the monetary means of access to such tech and algorithmic chains, for they are not sufficiently developed so they are still living in the real world. its the basis of the difference between producing, and reproducing, to endlessly scrolling a fake device simulating fake realities and stagnating until you die out

>>512551693 (OP)
Japans demographic collapse has to do with its terrible work culture and lack of free time. How are you meant to meet your spouse when you work 14 hours a day.

>>512555910
sure but what about other countries? such as the white ones? when they are out of work, how are they supposed to meet their spouse when scrolling a brainrotting simulation device that has a tailored addiction stimulating algorithm? boomers had radios and tvs, but those things werent addictive and were bound to a single space in the house, nowadays people are more in twitter and meta sites such as instagram than real life

>>512551693 (OP)
He is right, the choice is either
>Keep bleeding and regress back into rice farmers
>Import hordes of Jeets
>Develop AI to do basic skill level jobs
I'd choose the third easily and so would Japan who are overall much more accepting of AI than the West.

>>512551693 (OP)
>AI has nothing to do with population decline but it has everything to do with reversing it

????

you can end female higher education or ban birth control and fix it overnight

>>512551863
Because everything is not automated. There aren't enough people to work the jobs that will maintain the infrastructure necessary for those jobs which are automated to function. TFR across the developed world is in absolute freefall. In 2050-2060 Korea is going to collapse due to decades of catastrophic fertility, the rest of the first world will get a good look at what is to come. An inverted pyramid age structure in a nation is something that hits you like a freight train all at once over a few years, even though it takes decades to build.

>>512556465
Society be like
>"Let" women work
>Markets flood with competition, wages stagnate because there is no scarcity for employers to have to compete for workers.
>Two worker households make the same as a single breadwinner used to make before suffrage.

>>512556465
Women don't want to have kids because they can literally become rich by being internet whores.

>>512551693 (OP)
Can you blame them? Nobody wants to have kids when Godzilla destroys their country every couple of years. Imagine if we could somehow redirect his rampaging to India or Africa.

>>512551693 (OP)
>singularity

>>512551693 (OP)
Were at the point where the AI is getting systems to focus its weights in the subjects they're tasked, the next one will probably be to use those AI to automate chains of supply using these sophisticated LLM's to facilitate/ make it possible at a cost accessible to all businesses.

>>512554625
The answer is very simple to grasp for people with triple digit IQ. Most first world nations are aging more and more and not reproducing. This results in an inverted age pyramid --that is, few young people and several old people. As a result of this, there are fewer and fewer younger people working harder and harder to keep an aging populace alive. This causes further downward pressure on fertility: Men and women today don't want to breed, how much do you think they'll want to when 3/4 of their paycheck is taxed to keep the elderly alive? Oh, and you think Boomers are bad? Now imagine that their population was 4 times higher and they all still vote to keep their entitlements and increase them. Because that's what every single aging Millennial including you will be doing in 30 years when you're retired.

The fact is that GROWTH is not itself necessary. Growth is desirable if sustainable, but the end result should be a stable age pyramid with younger people being continuously born to maintain society. Oh, and since you used a kike image to suggest that this is all some ploy by happy merchants to maintain a consumer class, go ahead and look up the TFR of all nations sorted from top to bottom. Notice that only ONE country among all non-developing nations is above replacement rate. That's right, it's fucking ISRAEL. Fell for it again award, here it's for you

>>512551693 (OP)
When do the retards chime in how everyone is going to lose their pensions and social services unless we have continuous population growth?
Or are they only allowed to say that when criticizing capitalism?

Wouldn't ai and automation make having a large working population less necessary?

>>512553555
Armenia bringing
- numerals
- banz
- TRVTH

>>512556349
The funny thing with AI is that it's better for more advanced and rare skills.

>>512556349
The funny thing with AI is that it's better for more advanced and rare skills.
But in general, I am a bit surprsied to see where the 4chan opinion stands on tech matters these days.
I would have expected massive bot shilling for nu rightwing AI.

>>512557326
Heres a higher quality one, fren

Tradies will become the kings of this earth, AI isn't laying brick. Better start being nice to Mexicans, they're tomorrows elites.

>>512557326
>Most first world nations are aging more and more and not reproducing
Why is this happening in the first place?
>the end result should be a stable age pyramid with younger people being continuously born to maintain society
Why is this desirable in the first place?

Elon is an idiot who fried his brains out on ketamine and cocaine.
Disregard anything this subtard has to say.

>>512559491
Thanks fren

>>512560081
>Why is this happening in the first place?
Many reasons, but mostly technological innovation and female emancipation. TFR has a directly inverse correlation to the level of female reproductive rights and education in any given nation: That is, the only nations that still maintain acceptable fertility are those where women are still more or less owned. There have been periods throughout history with older societies, but they were typically a result of severe wars and/or natural disasters. No well-functioning societies exist long that are mostly elderly.

>Why is this desirable in the first place?
To have a healthy supply of youth to continue maintaining society. A nation's economic health is directly tied to its workforce. The older it is, necessarily the smaller it is. An eighty-year-old man cannot reliably build a house, pave a road, diagnose and fix major plumbing issues, etc. Technological innovation with regards to AI can thankfully handle much of the cerebral tasks, at least at the most basic level, but manual labor will always be necessary to maintain society. Essentially, the best way to maintain a society is to reach a point of equilibrium where women are having between 2 to 3 children. This ensures that there will continue to be youth to replace a workforce that must age out.

Let's ask the AI how to solve this crisis.
>ban immigrantion
>ban abortion
NOOO NOT LIKE THAT QUICKLY RELEASE A HOTFIX TO THE AI

>>512551693 (OP)
AI doesn't increase birthrates, it causes unemployment instead

>>512561182
It's simple really, if women didn't have to work they would actually have enough free time to raise children. But they have to work because capitalism forced them into the workforce. People could afford a family on one income some decades ago, this is what really changed.

A healthy supply of youth doesn't need an ever-increasing population, you can go by with a stable or even a slowly decreasing one. It's just that capitalism needs a constant growth to exist.

Face it already, every single problem in modern society is because of capitalism. Everything else is cope.

>>512551693 (OP)
Half the problems with population decline are just rich people worrying about their infinite cheap manpower machine running out.
They want constant growth, oversaturated Manpower pools to get new workers as cheaply as possible, more families to force men to work for longer and make them afraid to lose their jobs (but the families also need to be atomized to avoid them accumulating generational wealth)

>>512556349
AI does art and writing, humans have to do basic skilled jobs. Humans have to clean toilets.

>>512557326
You're full of shit, yid.

>>512561556
He’s saying it will make up the population shortfall.

>>512561957
It doesn't pay taxes or consume products so no. Those elders need their asses wiped which AI won't do. AI will bankrupt everyone with a degree and turn them into janitors, cooks, ass wipers etc.

>>512561891
1.) This has nothing to do with anything that I said.
2.) Once again, look up TFR of all nations. The only advanced nation that still has a TFR above 2.1 is ISRAEL

You are a complete moron that thinks 1,000,000 90-year-olds is just as good as 1,000,000 24-year-olds. I don't know what to tell you other than to actually read what I'm typing dipshit.

>>512551693 (OP)
>AI is the only hope for turning this around.
We gonna fuck the bitches to BITS.!!!!!
Bits computer bits. Bits

>>512554804
There are only two reasons why pop decline is a bad thing for the Jews.
The first is that the various social services that are keeping old people placated and young people foolishly hopeful for a nice retirement absolutely require an abundance of labour to pay for it.
I heard the other week that to pay for 1 social security pensioner you need 8 full time workers paying taxes.
Without those workers, old Betty can't get her retirement benefits.
This means that either the social security system must collapse, or you bring workers in to delay the collapse for as long as possible, as Hindu and Muslim and black labourers are a net cost to the economy, not a benefit.
It must be maintained, because when it falls, everyone will reject gouvernment and the politicians and the bankers, and everyone will be mad and the jig is up.

The second reason is that every registered citizen is in effect being traded as collateral for national debts.
If you are a country with too much national debt, registering a couple million citizens will resolve that problem, as the promise of taxes paid by the new citizens is leveraged before those taxes actually get generated in wealth and then stolen from that wealth.
The problem is that Japan has a lot of bonds with the US, and they'll go bankrupt if the bonds become worthless, since those are used in debt trades too.
How would they become worthless? If the US defaults, the dollar crashes.
And how does the US default? By not having enough registered citizens to shoulder the national debt burden.
Rather convenient then, that over 40 million unregistered citizens are there waiting to be pardoned into legal residency, then citizenship.
Japan doesn't have such an easy border to cross so they need a more open official "pls come in" policy to achieve the same thing, fattening the grease so it can keep frying gentile children and foreskin for the Jew.

>>512561556
We were told jeets would collapse the tech industry too.

>>512561621
None of my post stated that sustained growth was required to maintain a society. If you continue to think that capitalism itself is the sole reason for this problem then you are missing the forest for the trees. This is true in all societies, communist or otherwise. EVERY single nation that has a higher level of female education and emancipation has low fertility. If America, highly capitalist as it is, repealed the 21st amendment tomorrow and forced women out of the workforce, the problem would correct even if NOTHING else changed.

>>512561759

>Instead of AI servant wives we get AI femdom mommies instead
I think I would be okay with this.

>>512562382
what if couples didn't have to work collectively at least 80 hours a week in fake jobs to support a fake speculative economy, do you believe that would help fix things? or do you really believe forcing women at gunpoint to have children would fix things? we might as well force every male to work 80 hour workweeks at gunpoint no?

>>512556648
Finally an anon with vision

>>512553555
Musk is such a fucking scumbag jeet loving faggot.

>>512562582
No? Are you people not reading what I am saying and just imagining the argument you want to read? Societies are required to have workers to maintain them. Buildings fall apart, roads crack, pipes burst, vehicles crash. There are a lot of bullshit jobs but there are a deluge of jobs that are necessary to have society function, and an aging populace means you have less and less people to work those jobs. Worse, those few that are alive have to work HARDER than their parents did to maintain that society. So resultantly those few workers have even LESS children than their parents. Again, look at Korea, they are already facing severe problems with their aging populace and it's only going to get worse since low fertility begets even lower fertility.

Men did not have to collectively work 80 hour work weeks when society had a stable population and was capitalistic. You're dead set on putting capitalism in the crosshairs but you are simply mistaken.

>>512562854
>There are a lot of bullshit jobs but there are a deluge of jobs that are necessary to have society function, and an aging populace means you have less and less people to work those jobs
if the population will eventually decrease do you really need all that infrastructure? do you really need an ever-increasing amount of people working on maintaining infrastructure that isn't being used?
also those few that are alive, due to supply and demand laws would be paid more. if that was actually happening they could potentially afford a stay-at-home wife. but we know it's not happening because capitalists would rather hire spics and jeets to do those jobs at half price than hire young Americans.

>>512562854
We don't live in a society.

>>512563535
>if the population will eventually decrease do you really need all that infrastructure? do you really need an ever-increasing amount of people working on maintaining infrastructure that isn't being used?
This is now the third time I have told you that nothing that I am discussing involves an ever-increasing amount of people. I am fairly positive I will have to tell you a fourth time when you again ask why we need more people.

>also those few that are alive, due to supply and demand laws would be paid more. if that was actually happening they could potentially afford a stay-at-home wife. but we know it's not happening because capitalists would rather hire spics and jeets to do those jobs at half price than hire young Americans.
They would be taxed MORE, because there will be a smaller tax base from which to gather funds necessary to maintain basic society. Your kids will undoubtedly make even less money on average than people today. The only way those few alive will be afforded more wealth is if there is a culling of the elderly, which won't happen because the people in charge will be --you guessed it-- elderly. This doesn't end without a lot of violence or a lot of kids.

>>512564659
public education is LITERALLY communism and must be entirely abolished, we don't need to be able to read in order to work anyways, plus the tax money saved can be sent to Israel instead

>>512565201
>plus the tax money saved can be sent to Israel instead
The country of Israel has a TFR above replacement rate by the way. Funny that, I have yet to hear you explain why those filthy kikes that fuck up everything else have a healthy TFR while everyone else is dying. Oh well, just capitalism I'm sure!

>>512565303
a country of 340 million golems is funding their existence

>>512565524
We're not talking about just the US, we are talking about Mexico, Canada, Russia, China, India, Korea, South Africa, fucking everyone is nosediving in fertility to their detriment. Israel is the only developed nation that is not. I'm sure those kikes are purposely maintaining an unhealthy TFR that was the standard for an orderly society before the year 2000 though! Nothing to see here, all capitalism!

>>512565201
>government school is the tenth plank to the communist manifesto.
Yup. I don't know about schools in Catalonia, but here in the states they are quite horrible. Most of them are beyond reform. Children here would be better off if the government schools were abolished.

>>512565803
>The parasite grows fat feeding on the host.

>>512565939
>2.1 TFR is 'growing fat'
lmfao, you people will believe the stupidest shit is a kike plot but when you have the truth staring you RIGHT in the face you will ignore it. /pol/faggots are complete retards, they seriously think kikes want MORE white western men alive despite insisting endlessly that their goal is to delete them from society. I am convinced most of you are complete morons that just believe the opposite of whatever is popular. Now that societies as a whole are beginning to realize the nosediving fertility is a problem the /pol/faggot must insist it's NOT bad, because otherwise he'd be agreeing with the consensus.

>>512566133
we TradCath NatSoc white Christians at 4chan.org/pol/ think that Jews are based and redpilled thoughbeit

>>512566133
The parasite is killing the host.

>>512566495
The host being literally all advanced nations including those that hate Israel. Okay

>>512562173
Supersanity

The post.

Just become an ego worshipper and read Max Stirner.

>>512553329
By a fraction, you mean the white fraction. You know, the fraction that is declining.
The rest were never really required anyway.

>>512569851
your rulers never cared about the race of their slaves, they need to be smart enough to do the job they have to do but not too smart to notice things
if they can get by with jeets what need they have of you who is potentially dangerous to them?

>>512554127
Mass immigration has already destroyed our country

>>512551693 (OP)
Gooning to AI chat bot waifua reverses the depersonalization of sex caused by rampant pornography. not only is it more satisfying to jerk off to but it also makes you want to have sex instead of rewiring you into cuck mode (witnessing sex instead of having it). This is why jews are trying to block any kind of sexual content from AI. It is the cure to everything they set into motion long ago.

>>512570511
>instead of having it
anon, i...

>>512551693 (OP)
Indians will fuck Japanese girls and save their numbers...elon bhai too smart

>>512556648
Turns out it doesn't matter where you hatch a nest full of Godzillas, they all just make a beeline straight for Tokyo. Should have seen 'em go.

>>512552924
You are. Also brown brown n peirce off fmeeeriificashir

>>512569851
Dream on faggot you're getting wiped the fuck out. Fucking whites always the whites.

>>512551693 (OP)
I'm tired of Elon. Everyday he must amass a greater percentage of the federal money into his own personal wealth. He is Griffith from Berserk. I don't trust him at all. Once he gets powerful enough, say when he has legions of advanced robotics at his control, he will probably implement a coup to force himself as President. He has become the deep state, an entrenched, never ending parasite off the working class

>>512555800
>>512556185
Fucking VPNnigger

>>512562826
Elongius is the vision ok you not better
>>512562854
Anyone can do that bullshit just fuuuuck off ok don't need stuff billion flat for loony job trade so it fit ten rules cheap rate

>>512562854
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>>512574439
>>512574338
For those of you still not worried enough, keep in mind when the numbers tank the neo-Boomers that are us Millennials in 30 years are going to import fucktons of these retards to try and keep everything together.

AI is there to help infinity migrant pajeet scabs pretend they belong in your country

>>512551693 (OP)
AI does all the work. Humans stay home and fuck.

>>512556648
godzilla once tried a rescue mission to save the monitor lizards but 5 million pajeets swarmed out of nowhere and violated his cloaca, gave the poor bugger ganges rash for a year.
he won't be headed that way again

Population decline is not the end of the world in a vacuum like Japan. A culturally and ethnically homogeneous nation with very, very limited immigration can face declining birthrates for a little while and bounce back and be fine.
They don't have the issue of MASS third world immigration that the US, Canada, and Europe has. Dropping birthrates in these parts of the world simply means the population is going to be replaced.

This same retard actually said that America needed to import lots of H1B jeets to remain competitive in the AI race.

The only problem? Zero jeets have made any advances in the field. Look at all the companies. Did a pajeet invent the initial transformer tech? Did they invent techniques like the KV cache to lower memory usage of the LLMs? Absolutely not. The only things they do are like when OpenAI needed to download lots of copyrighted data, they got jeets to do that work.

Even when jeets were added into meta's AI team, do you know what happened? With llama4 the pajeets deliberately used test data (the kind that are used in benchmarks) as part of the training data. So it would do better in those benchmarks. The actual performance difference (everyday use) between 3 and 4 was worse. That's the power of the pajeet. They wasted so much money and released a *worse* model that Zuckerberg is considering keeping things closed now (to prevent further embarrassment).

So fuck Elon. If America wants to remain competitive with China they need to ditch the jeets. If you're going to import foreigners you do it like how you did operation paperclip, where you hand pick the absolute best in the field. There's no point in importing thousands of literal shitstreeters with the smallest brains in the world. They will only set you back.

>>512576371
to beat China, America will become China
but it's gonna be trad so it's based

>>512551693 (OP)
How is ai going to make humans have sex with each other

>>512551693 (OP)

AI will kill probably all jews given on their 2000year old history of creating chaos.. & also most of humanity. Note that only 7% of the World population is White. We are the Minority on this planet the Jews controll being prosecuted and killed by jews trough their influence and power. Probably AI will kill 80% of humanity and confine people to their Historical origins.

But the jews will be killed. Thats why jews working in AI are so worried, also bcause they are schizophrenics who know they are guilty

>>512553555
chek'd and kek'd

>>512577151
That Asian culture of appearing to work long ours isn't going to lead to breakthroughs. It might be useful for things like churning out more widgets in a factory but for actual R&D it doesn't work like that. The country that pulls ahead the most, i.e. they have more raw compute, more efficiencies in the hardware and software and so on it's going to lead the way. Especially when there are things like general purpose robots that can work for longer than '996' doing the repetitive work. Then it won't matter as much how many meat based robots you have.

>>512556962
Thanks but it’s unreadable on a phone. Post link as well next time

>>512577729
irrelevant, working hours will increase until morale improves

>>512551693 (OP)
>Ai will replace a majority if not all of the slave class citizens of todays societies
>It only needs a handful of maintenance workers to practically continue forever
>We no longer need shitskins and niggers
How is this not an absolute win?

>>512574870
Why the worryy
Take ashwagandha
$30 plus shipping per bottle
Also klonopin 0 5 for utmost needful

>>512553329
> What do we need billions upon billions of consumers for if they're not producing anything?

The Jews orc armies

>>512576371
Shaddap paddy we the daddy haha

>>512551693 (OP)
People need to hop off AI's dick already. It's not the solution to every problem you have to face.

>>512551693 (OP)
Reminder: Elon Musk only wants this issue on the forefront of our minds because it threatens infinite profit growth for jews and billionaires. Something completely disconnected from our own financial security, more and more. There's literally nothing wrong with having a smaller population. In fact that would be the best thing for the planet and our resources. The focus should be slowing jeet and negro populations.

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>>512553555