Which one will end up being more efficient, and why? Will RTTL even succeed?

(Return to the Land does not yet have an official name for its "community" despite already having land and some people trickling in.)

kek what scam are le ebin nazis falling for this time? paying 60 year old mortgages to be surrounded by senile boomers?

>>512559733 (OP)
>Orania
They're surrounded by hostiles. They should know rhodesian history.

>>512559733 (OP)
the boers are an actual Volk
thats the difference

>>512560067
The founders of RTTL are millennials. I think so is Joost Strydom, the face of Orania (though they have an older female mayor kek).

>>512559733 (OP)
Orania is a shithole

>>512559733 (OP)
Let them both grow and we’ll see. Orania would work better in the US but the way they have their own currency so niggers don’t try robbing them is brilliant and jews would never allow it here.

>>512560714
Their currency is tied to the rand.

>>512560339
What is the opinion of that dutch guy that keeps posting those nederlands civil war thread? Does he like it?

>>512561689
IDK who that is, ask him.

Any other opinions?

I'll be in Orania later this year helping family, would people like pics, videos, threads on it etc?

>>512559733 (OP)
>Which one will end up being more efficient, and why? Will RTTL even succeed?
If it is properly managed RTTL will end up being be more efficient and successful, it has better access to resources and human capital with better regional stability, security and state governance.

>>512564448
It would be interesting to see the mundane things in Orania, as well as its long-term plans. They say they're growing, but their population seems to stay at around 3000.

I'd personally be interested to know if they're trying their own tech scene/industrial stuff, in addition to the agriculture.

>>512564448
>>512565928
On the other hand, I wonder about how the residents feel of the community being some oddball media attraction due to its nature.

>>512559733 (OP)

None of them are efficient. They are both farmer-tradie colonies filled with White losers.

>>512559733 (OP)
Are there other options?

Also what's the initial cost outlay for a brand new community on undeveloped land for like 1000 people?

>>512559733 (OP)
Orania Is efficient, they used to have a faceberg page. All they need Is weaponry and More cash

>>512559733 (OP)
neither, they are both pacifist and christian, they don't raise warriors, they can only exist at mercy of others

>>512568547
So where are these warriors, Paweł?

>>512568647
in the past

>>512569854
>pole glorifying nazi germany
heh

>>512570158
pretty common in poland

>>512559733 (OP)
Orania is well meant but futile. Judeo-christianity ensures their future loss.

RTTL is something of a grift, it seems. They're a private entity and they don't present anything. Basically a group of people who want to be funded a la Joan of Parc.

The real White exclusive Volkish move, so far, is to support or become part of the growing Pagan communities.

>>512570158
well, they are the only ones who were pro White, the only successful grassroots revolution basically. A pity Americans were already jew controlled at that point and betrayed them.

>>512571083
At the expense of Poland.

>>512573416
and?

>>512573642
A Pole glorifying an invading force that sought to lessen them?

>>512574451
Lessen? how?
Poland was a disfunctional country that chose badly. They could've been our ally from day 1, saving their Slavic bros from bolshevism. Instead Grima UKtongue persuaded them to be stupid.

Yours is a childish, dissonant reading of history.

>>512575074
Ah, you're autistic.

>>512575144
>Hitler is bad because he had no magic wand!
roight, roight