Why do so many people care what legal punishment some asshats get that they don't know and didn't know the victims? The "empathy" people feel for people miles away that they'll never meet is fucking strange to me, and the lack of comprehension that most criminals are damaged goods or derailed people who can be fixed is ignored because it "offends" people to try to correct people who either raped or murdered someone. Even Anders Breivik getting a fancy kitchen doesn't bother me one bit. It's not like he can go where he likes or shoot more people, and it's probably not as if he'll be granted parole in 20 years when his term ends.

In fact, I feel sorry for people bullied by police to no end because they did 1 thing that's supposedly irredeemable.

>>512573111 (OP)
Empathy is a sin, but the Synagogue of Satan says otherwise.

>>512573111 (OP)
Senseless cold murder is still bad

>>512573111 (OP)
We used to have safe white cities with real police and neighborhood watch and all of that has been given up for rayciss doorbell comment sections. You're a joke

Yes.

Because tough on crime policies can create cities as safe as Dubai, Singapore, or chinese cities. Basically. And in Europe we are paying half of our income in taxes like fucking retards, which most wagies don't think about because taxes are deducted before they see the money, and they are really dumb, and that's the least we deserve for paying all that money.

Meanwhile our politics are divided between people who hate the rich and people who hate immigrants, and both are refusing to be tough on crime and refusing to lower taxes. It's so fucking pathetic.

>>512573465
based and high IQ

>>512573404
It is, but he's also getting minimum 21 years for it. And even if it was just 1 murder, I'd still not wish for life sentence on anyone.
I know that will always be hurtful to the family or friends of who was killed, but I don't believe at all in giving victims a sense of "justice". I only think it's important to stop murdering, so as long as you can't be sure if they'll do it again you can keep them in jail, but if you've seen enough signs that they learned from it or can't be put in the same mental situation again, you can at least release them supervised but make sure they are at least a city or two away from the people affected by it.

The whole idea of giving 20+ years for 1 action to me seems like something only created to satisfy the public and largely speaking crime sentences have expanded and expanded over the years as a way for political candidates to win elections on. The reality of what the punishment is isn't really helping society in a lot of cases, it's just putting 1 person through a level of misery that shouldn't be allowed.

Chris Watts for example. If you made me POTUS I'd pardon him right now. I'd just make sure the wife's family doesn't know about it, because watching the documentaries on it I'm pretty sure Watts isn't someone who just loved becoming a murderer. He was put into a humiliating situation and felt oppressed by his wife. Couldn't handle his own feelings right and strangely decided he should get rid of his wife and kids.

I fully relate to that man, and I might've done the same if my wife was Shannan. He should be released IMO.

>>512573706
>Because tough on crime policies can create cities as safe as Dubai, Singapore, or chinese cities. Basically. And in Europe we are paying half of our income in taxes like fucking retards, which most wagies don't think about because taxes are deducted before they see the money, and they are really dumb, and that's the least we deserve for paying all that money.
Those places are so safe it gives me the ick though.
Like, I wanna feel a bit of edginess to the town I live in. Not to the level when I interned in Copenhagen back in 2018, when there were gang wars happening. I had to bike the route every morning that had news article after news article of people unrelated to the gang crime getting shot in the asscheeks and going to the hospital. But I do like the feeling that somewhere there's filthy things happening like Prostitution or Drug trade, and somewhere there are violent people and you shouldn't go to that part of town.

Fuck all those clinically safe places. You know that also means those places feel like 1984 with police and cameras everywhere.

>>512574111
>so safe it gives me the ick

kek that is so fucking stupid ngl

prostitution and drug trade are fine but violence isn't, again, we are paying massive amounts of taxes and have oversized governments who can't even be bothered to do a good job on this

come on man be realistic. nobody likes to be robbed. nobody likes to be beaten. i don't want that to be a possibility. and i think if they did that right, i would feel less stupid for paying all those taxes, because things like roads, public transport and healthcare are actually not even that bad, but on security, europe is a joke.

it already is like 1984 because they don't care about YOU suffering from violence, but when it comes to things like "hate speech", or someone not paying a tax, they are actually very good at keeping track of people. that's the way europe is. as a result, you also can't fight back or own a weapon, meaning that the violence that there is is unfair and one sided, because muslims get better treatment by mentally ill judges, and even if that wasn't the case, people with nothing to lose have all the power if you still go to prison for fighting back

>>512573896
lol youre a retard
youre lifing in comfy safe country of the world talking bullshit
i dont want to say i hope your wife and family gets raped and murdered infront of you but this is the treatment a retard like you would probably need to understand the obvious need for punishment of 'crime'
what a retard lol

>>512574111
childish little guy

>>512573111 (OP)
Being tough on crime creates a better future, provably so. Your life would be worse if our ancestors hadn't continually gotten rid of genetic trash.

>>512574609
I grew up on Linkin Park and Devil May Cry games. I need to feel some sense of danger anywhere I go, you know what I mean?

>>512574881

chill it's probably a teen

you won't convince anyone by calling them stupid. they won't want to change their mind and agree with you if you are insulting them

>>512574999

ok but now it's time for real life. in real life, crime is not fun. and in real life, violence is unfair and one sided, both because there are people who are favored by mentally ill judges, and because they don't care if they go to prison but you do.

cities as safe as the ones we see as utopias are something european governments can easily afford and it is an insult that they can't be bothered

>>512573111 (OP)
Do you want more criminality or less? If you hang every murderer naturally even the niggers will get the message and so it comes to pay dividends where you live in a safer city/state/country. Not to mention it is just to that the wicked should be crushed by their sins.

>>512573111 (OP)
that ass hat in particular got so many love letters from women you simp over that they had to start a new post office

>>512575568
*just that*

>>512574962
Wrong, localized justice creates a better society.

>>512575782
This. If there's no expectation for total sanitization it also facilitates a more open culture of speech, and offshoot behavior.
I don't think anybody wants to get beaten over the head by some punk, but I'd like for the society I was born into in the 90s to be how it always is.
People are not always open minded but also not telling each other to shut up based on over-strict norms. People don't clutch at their necklace when they hear something that's either obscene or violent like they do now.

There is a hysteria happening around crime that I think is a result of each passing generation having become more "pure" than the previous, and increasingly the bar for acceptability is narrower and narrower, creating a more sanitized but boring society.

Right now it's hard to see because everywhere is full of immigrants who create a dystopic feeling. I guess maybe that doesn't help, but I swear we were more open to the fact that yes, there's weird and offputting forms of crime happening here and there in the past, but as long as you stuck to the safe parts of the country you didn't have to think about it, and those who lived to be criminals could have their fun playing cops and robbers.

That to me seems a lot better than the deadass society they have in China, where the sole point of life is to work and serve the government. Like holy shit that isn't an end state I want the world to reach.

>>512573111 (OP)
what the fuck is wrong with people who simp for criminals? we should have the death penalty for murder and sexual assault

>>512573111 (OP)
If you don't care about tough on crime then you shouldn't care if the victims just lynch his ass from a tree maybe they get the wrong person and lynch you instead

>>512573111 (OP)
The criminal system in this country is totally broken. I don't care if some guy killed his wife, sold drugs or drove without his seat belt on.

What I care about are criminals that do something that could potentially affect me. Any criminal that does not personally know the victim should be put to death, period.
>guy muggs somebody on the street? kill them
>steals your car when you get out? kill them
>uses weapon to steal from 7/11? kill them
Bonus, make it like brazil where killing them as the crime happens is celebrated