Why hasn't Trump done anything about this yet?

>>512578145 (OP)
>TRUMP RAPES LITTLE WHITE GIRLS
TRUMP RAPES LITTLE WHITE GIRLS
>TRUMP RAPES LITTLE WHITE GIRLS
TRUMP RAPES LITTLE WHITE GIRLS
>TRUMP RAPES LITTLE WHITE GIRLS
TRUMP RAPES LITTLE WHITE GIRLS

>>512578145 (OP)
how would this result in trump getting some delicious jewjewcum?

>>512578231
it's hilarious how you retards have completely given up on the
>Trump is a convicted felon
bullshit that you were pushing the last 4 years

>>512578354
I don't care about that I am a nazi who doesn't like jewish pedophiles. Why are you defending them?

>>512578145 (OP)
dont these jam a lot?

>>512579044
yes they are for larpers and guntuber faggots. The worse problem is that standard 30rd mags are also considered "high capacity"

>>512579044
I've heard the same thing. Bump for interest. Maybe /k/ is lurking...

>>512579237
/k/ don't know shit about guns, they're chickenshit Jewish Redditors from California and New York City who shill ugly meme shit like Israeli bullpups and 5.7 pistols. They're so tough they'll give you a 3-day sitewide ban for "offtopic" criticism of Israeli weapons in a weapons board.

>>512578905
>i am a nazi
on 4chan of all places? how bravely transgressive of you.
unfortunately for you, obvious bullshit doesn't become less obvious or less bullshit just because you screech it hysterically.

>>512579044
Just clean your gun and it won’t jam so much. If it does jam then no big deal. Clearing the jam should take about 10 seconds max.

>>512579044
they bind up if you don't use a silicone based lubricant. they're way too heavy for any shooting and scooting. if you've got a 20in AR with a bipod and a binary trigger, i suppose it makes for a fun way to overheat your gas tube. better off getting one of those quad stack surefire magazines if your goal is to make nancy pelosi shit down both legs.

>>512579678
you expect me to be mad about being insulted by someone who defends zionist child rapists?

>>512579731
the jamming has nothing to do with the action of the gun, retard. They jam because of the shape of the round and the spring mechanism most of them use.

>>512578905
>I am a nazi
Age of consent in Nazi Germany was like 13 or 14. But many high ranking Nazis (like Oskar Dirlewanger) had sex with even younger girls, and only received a slap on the wrist. The modern age of consent laws and “muh pedophilia” hysteria are all feminist jewish concepts meant to stifle and shame men for feeling sexual attraction (a natural physical reaction) to young girls.

>>512579481
don't forget the shilling of jewkraine and gore posting of drone bombings calling it "brave" or "tactical".

>>512578354
Trump is a Registered Democrat, him and his Registered Democrat buddy William Clinton fucked children trafficked by Mossad Asset Jeffrey Epstein. Further, Registered Democrat Donald J Trump is on record pardoning illegal voters, as he hates America. The proper punishment for such Treason, upon conviction in a court of Law, is hanging by the neck until Dead.

>>512579861
>spring mechanism
So just change the spring mechanism. Replace it with newer stronger springs. That should fix the problem right?

>>512579966
>appeal to nature
Nigger

>>512580119
it doesn't. it has to do with the geometry. watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXbVUTNTsqA

>>512578145 (OP)
Just rent a medium-large sized PO Box in a non-cucked state. Order the magazines to the PO Box. Then bring your stuff home and make sure not to get pulled over and having your car searched. The laws are fucking retarded and easily broken.

>>512578905
Registered Democrat Donald J Trump has repeatedly put the interests of the Foreign State of Israel above those of the American people, and even accepted bribes from the Foreign Interest Organization of AIPAC. This is High Treason, and if convicted in a court of Law, the proper punishment is hanging by the neck until Dead.

>>512580172
>appeal to nature
Yes. Problem? The only laws that matter are the laws of nature.

>>512579044
Probably. I don't own any 100-round AR drums. For 'high-capacity' magazines, I use 60-round Schmeissers, since they seem reliable so far. But I find it offensive that states are openly violating the 2nd Amendment by banning such products, and that Trump/the GOP Congress refuse to solve this problem.

>>512580325
Nature’s “laws” are a scrabble of extremely ugly differential equations you niggerbrain. Niggerbrains like you don’t get an opinion about such things.

>>512580245
Will check it out. Thanks.

>>512580119
The year is 2025. I do not understand why we haven't just moved on to electronically actuated firearms instead of having to rely on springs and levers and filthy pressurized gas blowback systems.

>>512579966
nice cope now explain how that relates to little white girls forced into sex slavery by jewish mossad agents to be raped by Donald Trump and other US politicians. Why are you defending this?

>>512578231
The 38 billion dollars to Israel was signed by Barack Obama and is being payed 3.8 billion every year for 10 years
Trump isn't paying it, Americans are
Trump didn't agree to it, you did
Real Americans fought and killed their masters over a 5% income tax
Modern mutts pretending to be American are perfectly happy sending their money to Israel, Africa, or India
You literally do nothing but complain online to an echo chamber which does nothing

>>512578145 (OP)
Its KCI, that crap is only good for larpers on a flat range. If you are in a banned state, rural swap meets usually have boomers selling wheelgats, rifles, and other goodies.

>>512580377
Don’t care. Adult whore women suck. Take the cunnypill.

>>512580032
Goyim discuss war:
>honor, courage, bravery
>seeing the eyes of your enemies
>running through firefights to rescue your wounded

Jews discuss war:
>"Whatever makes my Lockheed-Martin stock go up, it's not like I'm in any danger"
>murdering women and children from 5000 miles away while operating a joystick and staring at a screen in a climate-controlled environment
>"Haha its like playing a video game! Murdering Goyim is fun haha"

>>512580412
>introduce reliance on electricity and batteries to something that needs to sit in storage for years at a time which you need to be reliable 100% of the time as your life could depend on it.

>>512578145 (OP)
How about you leave your blue faggot state cuck?

>>512580276
Going to other states is fine for accessories, but many FFL shops (gun stores) will not sell to out-of-state residents due to federal laws, and those which do will limit sales to weapons which are legal for purchase in the buyer's home state (again, that's federal law, which can easily be changed by Congress).

The only viable 'loophole' is to buy from a private seller, if the private seller is willing to do so. This also technically violates federal law, but since it is never prosecuted, no one cares. But obviously, that will usually require a large markup, since private sellers are usually in it for the cash.

This is common between Washington (extensive gun bans) and Idaho, for example. Lots of Idaho private sellers are selling weapons to Washington residents at gigantic markups. But this should not be necessary. We literally just need a few lines of revisions to the federal code to fix all of this.

>>512580451
>saaar Mr. Trump Patel is not loyal to Israel saaar it were the nigger saaaar

All Registered Democrats (such as Birthright Nigger Barack Obama and Naturalized Nigger Donald J Trump) were blackmailed by Israeli assets like Jeffrey Epstein into committing High Treason against the American People and Constitution by favoring the Foreign State of Israel over our own. The proper punishment for such treason, upon conviction in a court of Law, is hanging from the neck until Dead.

>>512580552
Nice try, sloppy glownigger migger. Trump cut your funding and it shows.

>>512579044
it's the shitty korean knockoff instead of the original beta c mags. those are much more expensive. drum mags are mostly for fun anyways. the magpul d60 drums are pretty reliable

>>512580334
I'm a Washington resident. I bought enough 30 and 40 round magazines to last 2 lifetimes.
In a way I am glad they banned them so I had a reason to stack em up.
Every once in a while when I'm out of state, I grab a few more.
Hopefully they overturn these idiotic laws, but they have induced me to prep a lot more than I would have otherwise.
Knowing without a doubt that my state hates me and wants me enslaved really got my ass in gear.

>>512580646
That's exactly what I said
Your entire government are committing treason no matter who wins
The founders literally killed people over much much much less than what is accepted today
What is wrong with modern white people?
Why did good people stop killing bad people?
I'm just so lost and confused how we let it get this bad without any revolt at all
Looking at photos of little rock USA is baffling
Jews in American military uniform bashing American citizens bloody with bayonet mounted rifles
And not one single American fought back
Not one
Why
Is it circumcision causing this?

>>512578354
>everything I disagree with is said by the same person
you sound like a leftist
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8IY3AAvGIj4

>>512578354
convicted felons arent even supposed to have gun rights yet drumpf was given the nuclear codes? omg what a nightmare for all the sissies

>>512580426
>explain how that relates to little white girls forced into sex slavery by jewish mossad agents to be raped by Donald Trump and other US politicians
It doesn’t relate to that at all. It was just a little trivia for you.

>Why are you defending this?
I’m not. But you were being kinda pedophobic.

>>512580589
>abloo bloo bloo muh dependability
Wow, put in a new lithium battery once every 10 years, everything else remains as reliable as mechanically based firearms. Exactly the response I'd expect from an American that doesn't innovate or do anything anymore and gets irrationally angry everyone that wants to move on from the 20th century.

>>512578145 (OP)
I never understood this. Like let's say someone is really keen on doing something like a mass shooting in these regions. It's not hard at all for them to just get a gun legally or otherwise and just 3D print and extended magazine. I mean it's just plastic. At least something like the lower receiver requires a lump of steel and some milling to create.

Trump sees all these states as the enemy, he won't do anything to actually help the people in these states lol

>>512580866
kek. you're alright, I confused your purple id with the other retard

>>512578145 (OP)
the shape of it says it all
lmao

>>512580692
I don’t like Trump. I think he is retarded. Anyway how is this relevant to anything I said?

>>512578145 (OP)
Why would you want that ridiculus shit, your barrel would grow red hot and warp and the shitty plastic rifle fittings would melt. You may as well take a lump hammer and use otb on a rifle as mag dump from that heavy pointles piece of crap. Why are all you American into this tactical roleplay action hero garbage instead of shooiting decent quality rifles and actually laearning to shoot? ot at point blank distances but actually learn to fucking shoot. Can't you afford decent rifles because you waste all your money on shit like that uselss worthless mag?

>>512579044
>dont these jam a lot?
Anything jams if you do not care for it.
>>512579731
>Just clean your gun and it won’t jam so much.
It's not a cleanliness issue. It is a failure to feed issue. Which can be an issue with this kind of magazine.
I have an early BETA-C mag, which is much higher quality than... whatever these are.
Testing by various militaries resulted in mixed reviews.
>>512579758
>they bind up if you don't use a silicone based lubricant.
The lubricant is not silicone based. It is dry black graphite.
> they're way too heavy for any shooting and scooting
Agreed. These should be used like the Rangers used the 100rd giant C drum magazines for the Thompson SMG at Pointe du Hoc: Go into the assault with that inserted and when it is empty or jams beyond recovery, then discard it. Do not expect to see it again. Which is why the 100 round C drum for the Thompson is so rare.
>>512580334
No magazines are "high capacity".
Magazines are designed for the number of rounds they hold.
It is a box with a spring in it - which means any magazine can be made to hold any number of rounds you want. Calling a magazine "high capacity" is nothing more than a pejorative meant to scare normies.
It is neither good nor bad. It simply is.
Personally, my view on it is it's a toolbox. You use the correct tool for the job - what is appropriate for what you are doing.

>>512581088
checked for dying face down in the mud in the failed invasion of ukraine while a checken pockets its personal effects.

I need to get me a drum for my m1a, that would be fun

>>512580895
>Wow, put in a new lithium battery once every 10 years

>introduce a point of failure and additional maintenance requirement for something that works perfectly already, for no reason other than "muh technology WAAAOW!!"
Canadians are really the most retarded faggots in the world. btw your shitty idea was already tried by remmington and it failed because its fucking stupid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_Model_700#Standard_versions
>The EtronX electronic primer ignition system was implemented in the Model 700 EtronX introduced in 2000, though this model was a commercial failure and ceased production in 2003 along with the EtronX primers.

>>512580844
America is an extremely low IQ country, largely due to our education system being watered down to ensure niggers never fail. The average American can’t even read at a fifth grade level, and “fifth grade level” in America is 2nd grade anywhere else.

Miggers and leftists are thus easily manipulated by Jewish culture war bullshit while nobody can buy a house, Constitutional protections are ignored and dissolved by the government, and Israel continues buying our elections and politicians. Miggers are just getting even with SJWs by acting just as retarded, and in the end they will achieve just as much good for Americans, and just as much good for Israel. I hate miggers.

>>512581182
Why aren't you over there fighting, you Jew-rat chickenhawk?

>>512578145 (OP)
You're right OP. Those things are terrible. Trump should be pressuring Desert tech to make the quatro in greater quantities with a double length mag for actual reliable 100 round capacity for the masses. The cost investment for less than double capacity is dumb. They should have gone for at least 75 rounds.

>>512578145 (OP)
ESL hands typed this post. Can't be American, has to be Israeli or UK psyop and nudge units. Can't be Indian, they understand a decentralized government.

Daily reminder 80% of all internet traffic is bots and government propaganda

>>512581217
>America is an extremely low IQ country
thank's for the reply
>>512581123
>Why would you want that ridiculous shit, your barrel would grow red hot and warp and the shitty plastic rifle fittings would melt. You may as well take a lump hammer and use it on a rifle as mag dump from that heavy pointles piece of crap. Why are all you American into this tactical roleplay action hero garbage instead of shooiting decent quality rifles and actually learning to shoot? Not at point blank distances but actually learn to fucking shoot. Can't you afford decent rifles because you waste all your money on shit like that uselss worthless mag?

>>512581284
Fact. Pajeet internet theory is real.

>>512578145 (OP)
Because you incels can't stop shooting up children.

>>512578145 (OP)
those things are a huge pain to load and are heavy as fuck loaded. just get a bunch of 30rd mags

>>512581275
Well I don't speak Ukranian for a start and was told they don't have any english language units but don't worry I've paid for plenty of drones to kill your relatives and will send some more money now to the Ukranian unit I sponsor as I do when ever I see this poxy kremlin fake flag VPNs board and its garbage kremlin spam posts

>>512581387
we're incels if we don't rape the kids and we're incels if we don't shoot them either... okay kike

>>512581200
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_Model_700#Standard_versions
>look at this one example from 25 years ago that didn't work well, don't you feel stupid now
This is like saying modern electric cars are garbage because if you look at this one electric golf cart made in 2000 it has a top speed of 10 mph and can barely make a one way trip to the local supermarket. Your opinions on this matter are outdated and stupid and not backed by the current potential of the available technology.

>>512581123
>Why would you want that ridiculus shit, your barrel would grow red hot and warp and the shitty plastic rifle fittings would melt.
Yes.
And there are retards who do this for clickbait, dangerous as it is.
>Why are all you American into this tactical roleplay action hero garbage instead of shooiting decent quality rifles and actually laearning to shoot?
Because few want to put in the sweat equity to actually build skills by practicing fundamentals relentlessly.
I burned the barrel out on a precision rifle - the lifespan of a precision rifle barrel is ~3500 rounds before accuracy falls off.
By "accuracy falls off", I mean it goes from .5MOA to 1.5MOA. Which translates to a great deal out past 700 or 800m
After that, it takes a little bit to maintain that level of skill, but not nearly as much as getting that far from zero.
>Can't you afford decent rifles because you waste all your money on shit like that uselss worthless mag?
I had a theory once. Buy a conex box of rubber dog shit from Hong Kong. Spray it all rattle-can Krylon engine paint flat black and hot glue velcro hook and loop tape to it... call it "Tactical Poo".
I would make millions because stupid fuckers would buy it.

>>512581391
Or buy an actual nice rifle that cost more than 1000$ like a Tikka and learn to fucking shoot past 500 instead of magdumping at 50 with a larp gu with barreries glued all over it and shit like that mag hanging off it? In the end of the day th only think that matter is killing commies/fsb tho

>>512581571
name one (1) benefit of adding a dependency on electricity and shitty chink batteries to a firearm. So far you're only reasoning is that gas operated actions are "filthy" which tells me you're a noguns faggot

I would rather have the magpul D-60 drums.

>>512581637
You, I like, God Bledss and stay well. Match barresl do drop off after a few thousand but you need to learn to pause betwene shots for long range so your barrel is an even temp and shoot something slower and heavier tpo avoid barrel wear, small fast boolits eat barrels as do hot loads It saddens me that a nation of great riflemen now can't even read wind flags or winnd flow because muh AR and muh battery scope. Anyway maybe will will shoot together some day, you are one of the good ones. Get a lapua barrel ;-)

Californians don’t deserve rights.

>>512578354
He is a convicted felon tho but that's unrelated to him fucking children cause his convictions were for committing fraud while trying to cover up the fact that he also fucks adult pornstars and therefor are boring in comparison to the fact that he fucks children, which is something I've been yelling about since 2021

>>512578145 (OP)
the shotgun is the only viable weapon for what is coming. stop worrying about rapid fire and stock up on shotguns and novel ammo.

>>512581750
I would rather have the 5 box mags you could fit in the same webbing space. Drums are and have always been tarded unless you're sitting in a little guard shack at a checkpoint or something.

>>512579044
Yes, the biggest mag you should get for an ar is a 40 rounder and even then that should only be for range fun
>>512579481
Kill yourself nigger israeli guns are the only decent thing kikes have ever contributed to the world, except the tavor fuck the tavor all bullpups that arent grozas are gay with

>>512581882
Laying in the mud and the burning sun and the snow, pounding rounds downrange till my shoulder is black and blue.. No bipod. Sandbag or my ruck.
Nobody uses a sling as a shooting aid anymore either. El Paso Saddlery makes a good quality 1907 sling that will last till the heat death of the universe so long as you keep it clean and coat it with neatsfoot now and again.
Or reads the wind or knows how to use Mildots or has their comeups acetated to the left side of the butt as a quick reference...
>You, I like, God Bledss and stay well
You too, Ireland bro.
I watch what is happening over there.
Hard rain coming.
Here too. Noplace safe left to run to - just prep the best you can and hope you get it right. Christ commands us to be hopeful, and I am. But He also made us smart enough to know hope is not a plan.
Having a plan is a plan. And another plan for when that one fails.
Lose the fear. Trust in God. Hope you get it right.
Going to bed now.
See you when I see you.

>>512582292
Too bad /k/ sucks now.

>>512581656
Talking for use in rifles which would be most practical:

- You can have variable fire rate.
- You can set the bolt to retract after the bullet fully leaves the barrel so 100% of the energy goes into the bullet.
- You don't need to worry about fouling of gas tubes and you can keep the barrel construction more simple.
- You can power gyroscopic stabilizers for precision shooting if you're in a situation where it's difficult to hold still and take clean shots.
- You can devise an ammunition feed into the breech that doesn't rely on spring loaded magazines.
- The mechanical complexity is reduced and it's actually easier to design and make homemade builds.
- You can set the trigger force to what ever you want, right down to the force needed to click your mouse button so you don't need to worry about movement issues when firing.
- You can experiment with other technologies that wouldn't be possible just through mechanical systems triggered off gas pressure alone.

>>512580287
i dont buy it. why would israel want america to close its borders

>>512582384
The whole site sucks now even /bant/ is trash, but that's besides the point

>>512582514
>The mechanical complexity is reduced
Are you fucking retarded.

>>512582514
>- You can have variable fire rate.
already possible with mechanical systems. see AN94
>- You can set the bolt to retract after the bullet fully leaves the barrel so 100% of the energy goes into the bullet.
already possible with mechanical systems. see delayed blowback/locking mechanisms
>- You don't need to worry about fouling of gas tubes and you can keep the barrel construction more simple.
not worth making the gun less reliable.
>- You can power gyroscopic stabilizers for precision shooting if you're in a situation where it's difficult to hold still and take clean shots.
lmfao
>- You can devise an ammunition feed into the breech that doesn't rely on spring loaded magazines.
lmfao. No reason for this, you have any idea how much power that would actually require? Look at the batteries used by miniguns which do this.
>- The mechanical complexity is reduced and it's actually easier to design and make homemade builds.
You're telling me its easier to make batteries and integrated circuits at home than springs? fucking retard
>- You can set the trigger force to what ever you want, right down to the force needed to click your mouse button so you don't need to worry about movement issues when firing.
its called replacing the trigger and getting a polished sear surface, retard. People do this all the time without batteries.
>- You can experiment with other technologies that wouldn't be possible just through mechanical systems triggered off gas pressure alone.

this post tells me you know literally nothing about how firearms work or the principals involved in their design. You've probably never even shot a gun in your life. None of what you posted is worth the weight of a battery let alone the failure points electronics would introduce.

>>512579044
The issue with these larger magazines (60-150 count) is the springs have a difficult time decompressing if they sit with tension on them for to long. To long being six plus months. With any spring fed magazine its important to unload them occasionally and let the spring rest. I switch out my mags once a year.

>>512582800
In mechanical systems there's all sorts of things that need to be considered like spring tension and bolt weight and various contact points from rods and cams or latches. All of these things are points of failure especially if they become oxidized, worn down or dirty. With an electronic actuation it's much easier to contain things in a high IP rated enclosure to protect against water and particulate intrusion. You can calibrate the firing dynamics by just adjusting parameters in a microcontroller instead of having to rework tensions and weights. In general it's just easier to develop a more reliable weapon that requires less maintenance.

>>512583329
a firearm action (ignoring your dogshit idea for cartridge feeding) dependent on electricity along would require at minimum:
>batteries
>circuit boards/ICs
>gears
>springs
so how exactly is that less complex than just springs? You think batteries and ICs won't be effected by operating temps especially in a firearm? lmao

>>512578145 (OP)
>Goes to any UPS store that sells PO boxes in a neighboring state, orders product, wins.
The litigation process is slow, intentionally. That's why fucktarded anti-American groups can get away with clear violations of the Constitution, for a while. Trump has no 'magic wand' and niggers who post this shit only do so to sew discord, therefore...
OP is a faggot.

>>512583329
You can just say "yes" you know.

>>512578145 (OP)
Why are you buying those shitty drums anyways? Unreliable nigger trash.

>>512582082
Shit is retarded unless your going to sit in one spot and spray and prey at a target.

Yes.

>>512583056
>already possible with mechanical systems. see AN94
There's more limitations on mechanical systems though, you can get into oddball fire rates if you want to or burst fire and delay sequences.
>- You can set the bolt to retract after the bullet fully leaves the barrel so 100% of the energy goes into the bullet.
You need additional tubing and pistons and a more complex bolt system. Electric cycling can be kept simple and actually becomes more reliable not less.
>lmfao
You have no argument why this would be a bad thing at all so you have to fire off a copepost.
>lmfao. No reason for this, you have any idea how much power that would actually require? Look at the batteries used by miniguns which do this.
You aren't needing to cycle 1000 rounds in one minute on just a standard rifle and if you needed to go through that much ammo that quickly you could easily carry an additional battery. Miniguns also require much more power because you're not just actuating a weapon briefly you're spinning up a giant metal mass and pulling a long line of bullets which is has a lot of friction. It would be nice to not have to deal with clunky magazines and just use something like small portions of belt linked bullets.
You're telling me its easier to make batteries and integrated circuits at home than springs? fucking retard
Yes. It is in fact easier to do this, I have strong doubts that you could design a simple electronic circuit or even produce springs for that matter.
>its called replacing the trigger and getting a polished sear surface, retard. People do this all the time without batteries.
Who gives a shit, I could just push a button on a computer and download an adjustment to my trigger as I please.

You're a nigger that wants to cling to old shit like a boomer and won't even consider the possibility that improved technology can make a superior product.

>>512583787
>Trump has no 'magic wand'

He literally does, though. He tells the GOP Congress to pass a bill. They do. He signs it. Done. Or did you forget about the GOP majority in both chambers?

>>512583691
It's becomes a simple linear actuator that does away with need for more complex interacting mechanical parts. Not really sure how a circuit board and battery is a problem here, you use that shit in basically everything else you use today.

>>512583909
The mechanical complexity is reduced though with a fully electric system and I don't know why anyone would argue against this. It's like claiming a gas powered car is less mechanically complex than an electric one.

>>512584688
Well, there are two possibilities here. Either everyone who has ever made or used a gun is retarded, or you are retarded.
Go prove us wrong, champ. Apparently it's super easy, barely an inconvenience.

>>512584831
You are talking about a gun to no gun leaf.
Clean up.

>>512578145 (OP)
>Why hasn't Trump done anything about this yet?
Because he can't. There's no action the executive can take to stop these, it has to be done through the courts. And the Supreme Court has been cucking out on making any such decisions.

>>512578145 (OP)
because trump is a cuck race traitor

pedophile should swing from a noose

>>512584831
The battery technology and motor technology that can allow this to work is still fairly new, there's no reason that it's not technically feasible. I see two major reasons this isn't moving forward. The first reason is that everyone always has a stubborn boomer playdoh brain "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality and are afraid of any unfamiliarity they come across, this is both in the civilian and military arena. The second is that gun manufacturers already have their capital costs paid for to churn out mechanical firearms and turn them into easy cash, exploring new ideas comes with expense and risk that people sitting in boardrooms don't want to entertain.

>>512585286
Or possibly, you're retarded.

>>512585027
I find Americans to be among the most guntarded people, it's the low barrier to entry that does it.

>>512585286
Are you a 12-year-old who has never gone further than the suburbs? Having every minutiae in life dependent on a power grid is utterly retarded.

>>512585423
Cause you dealing with blue state cucked americans or psyop'ing kikes. Enjoy your demoralization pills and thoughts but you are getting psyop'd. Sadly, it seems to work.

>>512585027
You are all a bunch of fud lords that obsess over guns that have stupid exterior meme designs that try to make them look cool like a sportscar. You don't use your guns for anything based ever and often make cringy stupid comments about the ATF agent that's "watching" but there's no one ever there. Meanwhile nigger apes are running around on all fours and blasting up every city with converted full-autos and could give a shit less about authority. Your entire gun culture has been turned into a hollow shell of what it once was.

>>512584413
Trump is owned by Jewish pedophiles and they wouldn't dare let him wave a wand to reaffirm the constitutional rights we already have because too many people are noticing that Jews just forced poison vaccines on 3 generations of Americans, including defenseless children.

>>512585705
No I'm basically talking about /k/. The amount of magical thinking yanks do about guns is on par with the jeet there and his amazing idea for a 20lb of pussy and ass nerf brick full of motors doing the job of springs and cams.

>>512585713
>leaf is mad
Go on tell us more about your great-grandpappys hunting rifle.

>>512585867
/k/ are Jews, not Americans. There's no such thing as an "American" Jew, only Jews who happen to live in America.

>>512585359
I mean this is the only response you can give because you don't actually understand how anything works at all so everything is complicated to you and therefore must be foolish. We have electric power tools already that can more than pull their weight as far as delivering continuous output, a simple bolt cycling of a firearm is practically nothing in comparison.

>>512585867
>actually goes on /k/
You have to be special to keep up with /k/. It's basically reddit gun talk but you get put on a special list if you post based shit here instead of banned. It's fine to lurk sometimes but my god you are so psyop'd.

>>512585493
We aren't living in some shithole with rolling blackouts where it's a problem to charge a battery that could cycle a rifle a thousand times on a single charge. Your point is invalid.

>>512585890
>your old man's rifle can't compete with my Walmart special that's half plastic
I don't want to hear it.

>>512586221
Oh so you do want to talk about your ol grandpappy's hunting rifle?

>>512585965
From what I see Americans barely exist.

>>512586276
An old rifle properly maintained will work as fine as one of your retarded consumer guns marketed to the retarded American underclass with stupid names like 9mm xXxcaliber Stealth Marauder Nitro-Ninja Tactical MAX Power Handgun-Rifle Thing That's Uncomfortable To Aim Or Fire Because It Was Designed To Get Around Government Restrictions.

>>512586641
>he actually starts braging about his ol' grandpappy's hunting rifle
You leafs are so cucked and predictable it's almost cute.

>>512578145 (OP)
they all jam

>>512586721
It will blow a human head in half perfectly fine so why would I complain about it. I'm not really sure what you're trying to get at, like I'm supposed to be jealous of something that was made more recently but does the same thing?

>>512587004
How many moose have you shot with ol' grandpappy's rifle?

>>512587113
I live in Southern Ontario, it's at the same latitude as the north edge of California. There are no moose here.

>>512578354
He's literally both you fucking moron.

>>512587266
Been reading the thread, I like your posts leaf bro but as you can imagine, with my flag all I get is the same shit about plastic spoons and no-gunz . . .and I'm not getting into a pissing contest with a Mutt because what ever I have, theirs is better.

I agree with you regarding electronic systems, they might not be rugged enough for everyday military use but for hunting or match use, there is a lot of potential.

Food for thought.

>>512584302
you have the ideas, engineering intuition, arrogance, and flag of a street shitting pajeet. Its beyond me how someone could argue to such an extent about a topic they obviously don't know anything about.

>>512578231
That's a disturbing fantasy you have. Youre a pedo.

>>512584575
>linear actuator
>simple
>battery, circuit, servo/linear actuator is simpler than a single spring.
>replacing a system that uses 1 part made of steel with 5+ electronic parts is somehow making it less complex
kek

>>512588371
Electronics can be made very rugged if necessary. You can stick electronics into the nose cone of artillery shells and subject it to +100 Gs without damage. Every vehicle on the road is filled with electronic control modules subject to thermal cycling, splashing water and salt spray, fine particulate, static electricity and transients. These electronics can survive the entire lifetime of the vehicle without ever malfunctioning once or needing to be replaced. The idea of "electronic fragility" only exists because people are used to cheap Chinese crap and the delicacy of things like a flat screen television.

>>512588649
When I say simple I mean from a completely mechanical standpoint. I'm aware that electronics can be very intricate but that's not really relevant because they just aren't that expensive to make relative to the complexity and are very reliable when properly designed. The mechanical complexity overall will be reduced whether you like it or not.

>>512589313
I have no problem with solid state but the difficulty is with smaller, hard to service parts, like actuators,solenoids, etc.

When I was young, Sunday mornings most blokes would have their head under the bonnet of their car, cleaning points, etc. You can't do that now, infact many cars can have improved performance by just being re-mapped.

Like I said, I am aware of the potential for this and I am not a luddite.

>>512589726
right because a linear actuator or a motor doesn't have any internal components that each have tolerances and wear and tear cycles, obviously. You fucking clown. btw you would still need a locking mechanism and a mechanism to unlock the breach because you won't be relying on gas pressure to unlock it. and you STILL need a spring somewhere in your system to push the bolt closed. You are literally saying to me that adding a shit load of mechanical parts to a mechanism will actually reduce the complexity, somehow.

>>512591120
You don't need any springs, you can cycle the bolt backwards and forwards just on electrical power. It's also not mechanical component heavy and I don't know why you keep thinking this. Like a modern brushless DC motor exhibits minimal wear because all the forces are coming from contactless electromotive forces, they can last seemingly forever provided the bearings are properly selected for the job. You can apply the same logic linearly, you don't need to overcomplicate things with gears and springs. At the end of the day all it really is is a bolt action rifle that's cycled with some electronics.

Do you know ow how ungainly this makes your AR? It's too fucking heavy to be practical without a hard mounted gun, and why would you bother with a 5.56 at that point. Fucking tacticool noguns niggers.

>>512591727
At the end of the day all you're trying ineptly to replace is a bolt action rifle that's cycled with a piston.
You are a dipshit. Man portable chain guns aren't a thing for a reason, and that's what you're trying to make for some inexplicable retarded reason.

>>512579044
I've had one (the actual beta-c mag, not the shitty knockoffs that jam all the time) and have never had issues with it. I'd never trust it for SRS BSNS but they're a fun toy.

If you want a drum mag for that get a D60.

>>512591938
Yes... and by doing this you decouple all the mechanical components that would be normally present in a fully mechanical design. That means you can seal off a significant portion of the gun, especially in the trigger area. It also means for automatic fire you don't need to have some heavy bolt and spring bouncing around inside and you don't need a more complex gas blow back design either. You can set the timing of all the usual actions in ways that couldn't be done on a simple mechanical design. This gives you way more flexibility in all sorts of areas. Like if you want an improved suppressor action for example you can delay the bolt cycle by a half second or so to allow gas trapped in the barrel and behind the wipes to seep out quietly.

>>512592439
link me to any type of actuator that can handle the pressure of a 5.56 round (430 MPa or 62,366 psi), which can also fit in the space of an AR15 upper reciever ~1.14 inches wide

>>512592596
It's like a bolt action design... you just slide the bolt forward and rotate it a little. Now it can handle your peepeepoopoo 5.56 baby round. You could design it to use a 7.62 in a necked down .50 brass case if you wanted to and it would operate perfectly fine.

>>512592822
so whats the point of any of your electronics lmao? that's just a normal bolt action

Your dumbfuck jeet ideas about using a linear actuator instead of a normal bolt/spring are literally impossible because actuators with that spec do not exist

>>512592924
Well because it can perform these actions way faster than you can physically move your body and you're left with a device that's easier to maintain and overall more reliable in dirty environments. I don't know why you don't think an actuator can be built to cycle and lock a bolt, there's not much force to be overcome.

>>512593126
> it can perform these actions way faster than you can physically move your body
Here's a linear actuator that can only handle about 1/20th the force of the chamber pressure of 5.56:
https://www.progressiveautomations.com/products/high-force-industrial-actuator

It can only move 0.23"/sec


How old are you? 12? lmao let me guess the batteries and electronics are going to also make the gun turn into a monster truck T rex????

>>512593398
Okay so I don't think you know even the basics of guns. Like when you're using a bolt action rifle do you think you have to push the bolt handle forward really hard with your hand to stop it going backward when you pull the trigger? You rotate the bolt into a notch in the body which accepts the force. The actuator itself doesn't need to hold back the force of the round being fired, so it doesn't need to be a heavy duty design which would be slow.

this canadian is such a retarded nogunz gorilla nigger i won't even give a (you)
please commit rake posthaste