https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTzBO_BliZ8
>second internet
>uses traffic designed to look like standard traffic
>attaches to regular internet nodes
>attacking a node to damage the betanet with damage the regular web
>MAD as a security principle

Options are appearing. Is this a viable response to censorship and corpo/government dominion of online spaces?

>>512585294 (OP)
>corpo
redditor bugman word. say "corporate" if you want to appear credible to anyone who showers more than once a month.

>>512585294 (OP)
interesting but meshnet would be better because your betanet soltion still require kike controlled infrastructure which can just be phsycially powered off. its a good intermediate solution though

I want a decentralized wireless mesh net

>>512585294 (OP)
i will only settle for niggernet

>>512585664
Jack Dorsey/Primal are rapidly developing this on the Nostr protocol, using Bluetooth, WiFi and LoRa nesh networks.

>>512585875
Excuse me if I don't value his inclusion.

>>512585294 (OP)
this guy said essentially absolutely nothing, repeatedly.

>>512585612
Corpo is more of an 80s term long before plebbit existed.

Is the like the dark web? Whatever happened to that? Do people still use it?

>>512586050
Proof?

>>512585612
>Fell for the shower meme
Ngmi

>>512586103
Dark web is just sites that aren't listed on Google and shit.
Meshnet is a new infrastructure entirely.

>>512586009
This.
OP is a faggot.

>>512585294 (OP)
Big endian? Gives me the 'ick.

>>512585655
MESHnet will be KING.

>>512585294 (OP)
An alternate internet is a long time coming. Needs to be engineered to be uncensorable tho.

>>512585294 (OP)
Nice idea, but its essentially a wish list of hopes and dreams and a few measly 'bounties' for nebulous deliverables.

>>512585294 (OP)
> no summary
> lots of jargon
> another web3 scam
> requires crypto = will never reach critical mass
Good luck to OP if he's the dev.
Nothing wrong with trying.

>>512585294 (OP)
>>attacking a node to damage the betanet with damage the regular web
This is obviously a larp

>>512586339
This is why we do with mesh. The only way to take it down is remove all the devices. Each device acts as a relay for other devices.

>>512585655
>>512586301
bitchat and NOSTR are onto something big.

>>512585655
>>512585664
>meshnet
Who is going to go about securing and installing the necessary connections for this?
Are their any movements going about this in a realistic fashion?
>>512585875
>Jack Dorsey
Bitchat specifications are currently quite short ranged. "300m+" =/= internet.
Certainly an answer, but not one that can outright replace the internet with its current scope.
>>512586357
All true, with the additional concept that future webs need to be designed with attack in mind from the ground up.
Designing something with MAD in mind is different from purely defensive setups.
>>512586397
Simply curious about the concept. I don't into code.

>>512585294 (OP)
Buy an ad faggot.

>>512586357
>>512586397
Probably a jeet that found a voice filter to make him sound like the typical incel anonymous youtube commentator

>>512586530
>This is why we do with mesh. The only way to take it down is remove all the devices. Each device acts as a relay for other devices.
That's very good to hear. Looking forward to see if this gets fully developed. It's urgent right now because sooner or later we won't be able to have the tools necessary to develop such a thing.

>>512586530
bands can be jammed but it only happens at protests

The bitcoin community is working with younger HAM community members solving this problem. .

>>512586597
People are currently working on doing it with radio for range.

>>512585294 (OP)
Funny... I just watched that video about an hour ago
This isn't being artificially pushed by the algo by feds I hope

>>512586633
A mesh network can still use wired connections, so the network can still be fortified against this.

>>512586564
>Bitchat specifications are currently quite short ranged. "300m+" =/= internet.
There's area of effect type relays only a few hundred meters, directed relays can be miles, and a relay can connect to the internet too to sync everyone together.

>>512586179
Thanks.

>>512586761
Exactly. It's more accurately described as removing the ISP monopoly

>>512585294 (OP)
Just build millions of these, inter net 2.0

>>512585875
Yeah, okay, "bulb"...

>>512585294 (OP)
How hard was it to provide the link?
Thanks for the tip anyho
https://github.com/ravendevteam/betanet

>>512586710
Always a possibility. If it overinflates or gains unnatural traction, that would be par for the course at this point.
Time will tell.
>>512586761
Their stats, not mine.
>>512586938
>got a loicense for that can?

>>512586647
>People are currently working on doing it with radio for range.
literal global heroes.

>>512586986
So are the RISC-V peeps

>>512586862
Yep, I've been watching hours of developers talk about ecash mints.

This one developer calle forked bitchat and made it for android and added his ecash architecture to it.
What this ecash does is it allows anyone to open a bank on top of bitcoin.
So these mesh nets can now transact offline using the same style as apple pay or credit cards.
There's autistic tradeoffs to going this route, but it checks all the boxes on being easy to use.

A merchant still needs to be online though to prevent double spends, but customers and communities don't need to be online.

>>512586938
No need for that.
I've developed a system for sending and receiving digital pressure waves through water lines.

>>512586984
I'm not disagreeing I'm just explaining the different solutions to this approach.

Jeffrey Epstein's Island is located where? And what is the current status there?

>>512582142

I2P seem to be the only real way to go. Only I have to pay for a decent VPN that will require kyc somewhere, even if I pay with Monero, unless I succumb to insanity and mine the price of the VPN. And I might slip up and my ISP will flag me and have the government monitor me for using it. I hate this shithole country so much

>>512585294 (OP)
>citing RFCs
already failed

>>512585294 (OP)
i hope this succeeds, the internet was incredible in the 90s and now it's utter shit. all the websites that used to be fun and interesting have shut down.

however, i have a feeling glowniggers are going to fill this with cp almost immediately and get it shut down

>>512587457
if not cp jeets will litter it with javascript nonsense, which is the reason why the internet is such shit today

>>512587394
you need to pay to use i2p?

>>512587457
We can't have anything. Everything sucks
As soon as something starts to get good, everyone has to ruin it
It goes for everything

>>512587591
No but for a good VPN that you can rely on you have to, and i'd need one to use it if I don't want to be put on a watchlist in this country. It's not illegal but they will flag you

>>512586984
>300m
This is for literal human cattle crammed into the urban cesspool.

>>512585294 (OP)
Not watching that faggotry.
Try dropping a link to the fucking manual next time, Bruce.

>>512585294 (OP)
This will be blocked at the ISP level, and the use will be made illegal like possessing cocaine.

>>512587270
Soon we will be able to send money to each other using our phones only (wifi, not, NFC, meshnet) anonymously without ever touching the fiat banking system.
We can buy and sell without government or banks being involved.
They have lost control.
This obviously makes them very mad.
Well, tough shit

>>512587678
https://code.kryo.se/iodine/

>>512585612
corpy scum detected

>>512587394
>KYC
Check out kycnot.me for non-KYC services including VPN.
There are also pure crypto VPNs like lokinet, Sentinel and Masq

>>512587775
>This will be blocked at the ISP level
Lol. Transit networks could give zero shits.

>>512586547
nostr isn't a meshnet tho
completely and totally reliant on traditional web
>>512586009
>>512586357
yep shit video by a shit "dev"

>>512588040
You're a fool to believe that. Even the heavily censored and restricted internet has resulted in people recognizing jews, so jews are coming at it from all angles all at once, and no protocol on Earth will stop that.

>>512585739
That'll be $19.99 a month, payable by EBT

>>512587533
JS is why some of the only good parts of the web are good, easy, and / or interesting
It is autistic troons such as yourself that cannot see that and why shit like this fails because it's not made for the average joe (not you loser)

>>512588289
sheeeit, gibs me dat

>>512587871
Thanks a lot. That's cool

>>512588131
>You're a fool to believe that.
Fucking retard. Am I going to believe your kvetching, or am I going to believe the streams of data I see moving across global transit networks daily.
Keep kvetching kiddo. Your mom and pop ISP may give a shit... but the transit networks give zero fucks.

>>512585739
install niggernet explorer from microshit wanglows

>>512587992
My problem is getting fiat to crypto without a bank account or kyc methods. Debit cards are kyc in this shithole. Idk, i'll take a look and see what I can find. Not sure it's possible

>>512587775
ISP level controls, and phone lines with built in backdoors at the hardware level are going to be continued problems for any system moving forward.
MAD is one potential concept that, if properly implemented, may be able to bypass such controls.
Mesh networks can use connections that ISP's may be unable to police, but CPU backdoors and locked down architecture remain problems in that domain for the future, and will likely cause more problems as time goes forward.
Even newer iterations of windows or anticheat for things like battlefield six are requiring secure mode enabled, so no unsigned programs can be effectively used, if at all. The concept of locking down capability rather than actual direct connection is a growing trend, and is being increasingly incorporated at the hardware level.

An easy way forward isn't on the cards for any kind of open information sharing.
If new methods are not palatable to the average user, mass adoption remains difficult.
If new methods do not possess the ability to actively repel attempts to breach or damage the new network, it will fall rapidly.

>>512588546
>t. uses kazaa to hack mainframes

>>512586597
They'll just make hardware refuse to connect to it.
>Sorry this router isn't signed by a trusted certificate issuer
The major web companies are now blocking browsers they don't want you using. I wouldn't be surprised if their OSes and hardware started blocking networks they don't like.

>>512588684
>t. uses kazaa to hack mainframes
Better than that faggot youtube link you posted, you rancid pretriangulated cumbubble.
Did you post the fucking manual yet or are you just here to circlejerk. That was a rhetorical question, Bruce.

>>512587533
What if we don't tell the Indians about it and create a great firewall to keep the jeets out

>>512587289
I remember a company had figured out how to use electrical lines as a broadband network. I wonder what happened to that?
I'm working on IP over bluetooth that makes everyone's Bluetooth headphones into nodes of a mesh net.

>>512585294 (OP)
Gay larp on a board of internet experts

>>512588098
nostr is like a hybrid web since so much of it is self hosted

>>512587457
The way you prevent both is through an invite system where if anyone you invited gets banned you can’t invite anyone and you are given a warning. Each user gets a few invites. Spread it but in a controlled way

>>512588400
pure javascript yes. if your shit needs installed with npm fuck you

>>512589000
yeah can we also make Telephone 2
Telephone 1 was great but with Telephone 2 every time you get a call it is guaranteed to be from another white person
the pajeets can have Telephone 1 and Internet 1, we'll take 2

>>512585294 (OP)
icp

>>512585294 (OP)
posted skepticism in comments
all my comments deleted

this is a scam or is run by a redditor which is x5 worse

>>512585294 (OP)
Trying to do the exact same thing except with Blackjack and Hookers, has always failed. At best it ends up being an inferior product to the thing that's already established or at worst an outright scam or in this case a fed honeypot.

>>512587992
I've actually already looked at this but I didn't find what I was looking for, it took a lot of time to research but I've found a method now :)
Thanks anon

>>512590487
Never a good sign. Duly noted.

>>512585294 (OP)
Thoroughly based. Will look up the details tomorrow been drinking. Any and all efforts to thwart globohomo kikes from controlling everything is always commendable.

>>512587773
>Try dropping a link to the fucking manual next time, Bruce.
not to defend OP but nobody in /pol/ reads the fucking threads, eh?

>>512586980

>>512585612
A fag flag? On MY dead internet?

>>512587394
>slip up
Not with Qubes OS!

Qubes, it's what chips crave!

>>512586573
You be quiet.

>>512585612
I call them lowlife parasites ready to get Luigi'd. Just like bootlickers like you.

>>512585294 (OP)
kinda stupid, things like yggdrasil exists already. we dont need some random shit this random guy vibecoded.
also we get it internet is getting worse but it is at the application layer. there is nothing this thing provides that will get you to the "public square" because public square is what's guarded. internet itself as a transport layer is fine. they are going to deanonymize the pseudoanonymous public squares. That's what's going on.

>>512586139
William Gibson.

>>512585664
It's called Reticulum / Nomad Network

>>512586277
>ntohs
ive always found big endian to be more intuitive because humans typically think that way in our numerals (largest denomination first).

>>512586633
jamming is not some magic spell that can just be cast. it requires a lot of gear, energy, and constant power.

and it can be easily countered with various methods. a lot of networks can use a variety of medium like 2.4GHz, 900 MHz ISM bands, and physical (wired) connections.

>>512585294 (OP)
Okay.
Is it fun or convenient to use? If the answer is no, it's not going to take off.

Need QRD on the tech specs of the op. Havent had a chance yet. Is it IPFS related?

https://youtu.be/FoUWHfh733Y

>>512594490
>heckin luigi corpo
exposed red brick walls hustle bustle of the big city microbreweries and rainbow cereal and rick and morty

>betanet
>normative document
>mandatory
>compliance
jews

>>512585294 (OP)
"Internet 2" has been a thing since the early 2000s you tard

https://internet2.edu/

>>512587773
>he reads manuals
lel
>DADDY CHINA JEW PLZ HALP IM JUST A DUMB BABBY
how much you wanna bet this guy worships a jew?

>>512586710
same m8, i literally watched this about an hour ago

>>512586984
so technically, if this kind of chat network is used to host html, it will become a secured internet network within internet?
is that how betanet works?

>>512585612
the right word is copro and coprolite
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprolite