Kikes, like pic related, really don’t want us smoking. Have kikels turned a corner and decided they love us goys? Hardly.
They poison us nonstop with booze, bugs, toxic food, whatever tf they’re spraying in the air etc.
why don’t they want us smoking? Will my jaw fall off bc I have a cigar once or twice a month?

>>512658357 (OP)
>Red pill me on cigars
Everyone is trying to shill them for some reason.

>>512658357 (OP)
Tobacco raises testosterone. That’s why they’re legalizing weed which lowers testosterone. Don’t be a fag.

>>512658357 (OP)
Are you the same cunt who wants people to stop drinking water?
You'll probably go after vitamins next.
Tldr, the enemy wants us dead.

>>512658357 (OP)
nah man i've been smoking for like 20 years, just dont be a sperg and constantly have one in your mouth and you'll be fine.

Here

https://www.sott.net/article/338885-A-comprehensive-review-of-the-many-health-benefits-of-smoking-Tobacco

>>512658357 (OP)
I grew up in the 80s, the smell of cigarette smoke makes me nostalgic

>>512658357 (OP)
Any drug your body becomes addicted to enslaves you, alcohol, nicotine, caffine, opiates. xanax, heroin, vallium, prozac, cocaine,ssris etc etc be a free man not a slave

How come all addictions have scum profitting from them as the expense of the minds and health of the people they sell to?

The worst thing about nicotine? The rages people addicted to it get into with their families and friends when they don't have it. It destoys homes, lives, marriages and friendships.

Be straight edge. Be a free man. Deport Hindus and Muslims.

>>512659154
Grow a pair, cuckold maggot

>>512658496
Like who faggot?
>>512658582
I suspect the troof is something like this
>>512658850
Thx

Was everyone dying of lung or mouf cancer in the 1800s? How about when you could smoke in restaurants and bars?

>>512658357 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZgivA2ENvY

kek

https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1754739781595385.mp4

>>512658802
why shoud I care what you think if you are too weak willed to even quite smoking or do you just love paying for that shit and having to buy it no matter what because its so much fun?

You're weak, who gives a fuck what you think. Truthpill.

>>512659225
You're weak, who gives a fuck what you think.

>>512659278
Deport Hindus and Muslims.

Interesting. Tons of bot shills itt. I think I’m going to up my cigar intake

>>512658582
>Tobacco raises testosterone. That’s why they’re legalizing weed which lowers testosterone.

This.

But real tobacco, not that cigarrette faggot shit that was created for women.

Cigar or pipe both with natural organic raised tobacco.

>>512658357 (OP)
the funny thing is most people with cancer dont smoke. i think it has to do with the cdc vaccines in 86 under fauci giving more people cancer, as well as the processed foods. i forgot the percentage of people with lung cancer who smoke, but it's not indicated as being related.

>>512659304
you're retarded and gay tho. why dont you kys now

>>512658582
Nigger.

>>512658357 (OP)
Nicotine increases testosterone. Which is a threat to Jews takeover. Alcohol makes goyim sedated and increases estrogen/bitch tits which makes goyim more manageable.

Nobody wants to have a smoke in 90 degree heat.

>>512659575
That would make more sense than this plant people have been smoking for thousands of years all of a sudden giving you cancer (but not in the past)

>>512658357 (OP)
just dont buy them from jeet ran gas stations or you get their weird germs theyve been incubating longer than anyone else in india that you inhale into your lungs and you have covid like symptoms from smoking

>>512659458
this. i grow my tobacco. i havent been to a doctor as an adult. i'm healthier than most people i've ever met. i can run 10 miles at an 8 minute mile pace.

>>512659235
Like who? Where have you been for the past 10 years?

>>512659575
>i forgot the percentage of people with lung cancer who smoke, but it's not indicated as being related.
Research it and learn.

>>512659154
Hindus and Muslims are more based than you if you actually support being a straight edge faggot.

>>512659743
also the kikes are trying to do that whole population reduction, and supposedly smoking kept the receptors for the spike protein away. i didnt get covid. wouldnt have gotten tested anyways tho. i got fired for not testing/masking/vaxxing.

Did we evolve to smoke plants?

I am not sure how that helps us biologically

I do know we need to drink water, eat, copulate to create offspring, etc.

Smoking temporarily raises dopamine and other stuff. Looks like a substance made to keep you enslaved, just like alcohol

>>512658357 (OP)
What about nicotine gum? Is legit right?

>>512659806
why dont the jews ever say anything about cancer and jeets in india? im starting to think its all just their weird mad cow germs they get from eating cow shit... like that would be the cigarette equivalent to shrooms

>>512659751
Tell me of your curing process, it's really the only hiccup that has kept me from growing my own

>>512659806
>it-it just does OK!?
That’s not an answer faggot.
Ho lee fuk look at how many shills we have itt

>>512659806
>bullshit statistics
i know for a fact it's not 80 percent of lung cancer patients smoke. that's a made up number.

>>512659889
i do a bunch of methods. my favorite is letting the leaves brown right on the plant and pick as they go, continuing to keep flowers from blooming till i only have a few green leaves at the top. then i have thousands of seeds ready later. then i age it in a dark jar for a few months to a year.

>>512659867
We evolved to eat plants and enjoy many medicinal properties from tons of them
>pharma jew isolates a compound found in a plant that helps us
>can’t patent a plant
>gotta jew fast
>change one molecule on compound
>here’s a new boner pill goy! That’ll be $299.99 per pill. What a great deal you’re getting!

>>512660109
this. kikes selling dhea when you can grow velvet beans is laughable

>>512658357 (OP)
I'm unironically Jewish and I started smoking because the goyim gave me free cigs. Cigars are fine. at worst you'll get easily treatable oral cancer when you're 80 so who cares. I'd still suggest avoiding it if you can, I am now hopelessly addicted to the vape even though I quit cigarettes. Cigars once in a while is wonderful. Sometimes the laws are literally just a shakedown scheme, for example in Thailand cigarettes are legal but vapes illegal. Thais sell them everywhere (stores listed openly on google maps) but the cops exclusively target white people, they even made a "ring" style snitching app and they fine foreigners $600 when caught. Just ridiculous.

>>512660605
Shouldn’t all these stupid boomers be dead from all the second and third hand smoke they suffered? Why are they still around clogging up the highways in $300k rv’s?

>>512659844
okay shlom

>>512660844
I don't think there's any evidence that 2nd or 3rd hand smoke has killed anyone, unless it's something like an extreme case of asthma. How would you even know? Literally half the people who get lung cancer are never-smokers.

smoking is adult pacifiers

you don't need any fucking substance for fucks sake

>>512660844
Medical insurance

>>512658357 (OP)
Smoking is retarded.

>>512658850
Literally 12 minutes later and I’m still reading it and am not even halfway yet.

Holy hell. I still need to cross-verify all of this and see if I can find the studies’ funding as well, but my brain almost exploded when I read the connection between nicotine (cigarette) demonization and SSRI (antidepressant) encourage or even normalization.

Absolutely bloody psychopathic. We genuinely ARE being murdered slowly with everything trying to be fed down our throats.

So, we all should start growing our own tobacco? Where do I begin? Any links?

>>512661268
> crappy insurance somehow cures long cancer
Show nose kike

>>512661560
Yeah I don’t know where to begin either. Just look at all the shills itt. I guess just try to find natural organic tobacco with no jewish chemicals added and go from there

>>512661306
Great argument ranjeesh

>>512661763
>Cure
Treat. That's all they ever do anymore, and boomers will pay any price for another day of life

>>512659235
They used lead in everything because it melted super low

toothpaste tubes, roofs, engines, Plumbing (like the element symbol)

>>512661937
Plumbium

>>512661937
Also because it's pretty chemically resilient. The roof sheeting was more about it's resistance to corrosion than its melting point.

>>512661849
I used to smoke American Spirits a few years back during my job agency days. I always got those simply because they were organic but it should be common sense that even organic foods that are processed by the industries that are trying to poison us still use chemicals on everything.

I guess the Spirits still are not enough. Looks like it’s finding an organic tabaco supplier, buying all of the materials necessary to harvest a yield, then smoke away, and I guess for the best results we ought to use a pipe since any type of processed paper isn’t pure? Very interesting stuff.

I never took SSRIs, although it was recommended to me various times. I only ever made the connection with mothers taking SSRIs and autism, never that the MAOI chemical is put in these pills when nicotine carries that and it doesn’t turn you into a sexless zombie.

I grow and harvest and process my own, ask me anything. It takes 2 years to make pipe tobacco, so it's a very long term hobby actually.

>>512662327
That’s why I asked about cigars. There’s no bullshit added to them as far as I know, right?

>>512662615
What would you recommend for those of us that can’t grow our own stuff? Do you have cancer yet? (I’m assuming no)

>>512658357 (OP)
Tobacco raises test and kills nanomachines, son!

>>512661849
>>512662327
you can buy tobacco seeds online. they grow like weeds. theyre super easy to grow. old rednecks back in the day used to grow it

>>512662615
also this. from the time you plant, harvest/cure, age, it takes like 2 years to get started

>>512662793
Why would people waste so much time on something that just makes them sick?

>>512662847
i dont get sick. ever

>>512662694
Buy some heirloom Virginia seed tobacco which is very low nicotine and no. I smoke like three bowls a week or so.

>>512662793
It's worth it I recommend The Pipe by Alfred Lord Dunhill who gives you the QRD on how to grow and process tobacco the old way.

>>512662847
It's perfectly fine in moderation. Also you can eat it and expel parasites of all kinds.

tobacco brings in billions in tax revenue in the US alone, even year. Nobody wants it illegalized. Health providers like hospitals whine about it and so do insurers. Hospitals mostly because they treat a lot of uninsured people who cant pay their bill

>>512662615
How much do you have to invest for a set up? If you can put a price on it, what’s the amount you need to throw in order to produce and yield good, quality tobacco?

Who did you get your seeds from? Where you careful and calculated when it come to finding someone or does a vendor like Etsy do the trick?

Have you experience any of these positive effects long-term? Follow-up question if yes, how often do you smoke (daily, weekly, monthly), and would you say you have a mental addiction towards it now where you overwhelmingly crave it 24/7?

>>512662891
Don’t say that goy! Goes against the narrative

>>512662743
>old rednecks back in the day used to grow it
That's prettymuch all agricultural products

>>512662982
So you’re implying that big hospital and big insurance run huge media campaigns to get people to stop smoking but they don’t care about all the problems like obesity and diabetes and liver failure from alcohol?

>>512662977
>The Pipe by Alfred Lord Dunhill
Will read

>>512663029
Literally a few dollars to buy the seeds and another few dollars to get one of those indoor led sprouting trays. $25 total. Then you pot the plants once they are 1-2" across and they grow rapidly, the thing is the seeds are the smallest thing you ever saw and you could put fifty thousand in a thimble. So you need to get a big white sheet of paper and slowly coax the seeds with a single hair into their media and sprout them, then once they are going well enough they will get 6-8' tall.

>>512662982
hospitals bitch about it because most people who smoke arent insurance bitches. i've never had medical insurance. everyone i know who smokes never gets sick and they dont constantly eat goyslop. the kikes want to fatten up their goys. they just make money off who ever is cool enough to smoke but not smart enough to grow it themselves as a hedge.

>>512658357 (OP)
Just take a nicotine lozenge, pouch, or spray, they a have a big bio availability and they deliver quickly, the spray delivers the quickest.
Then learn, by checking the facts and health impacts that there's nothing inherently magical about the cigarette itself, it's just tobacco leaves that are very high in radioactive isotopes which will stick in your lungs and hundreds of carcinogens and nasty stuff, your alveoli will permanently burst inside your lungs leading to shortness of breath as you progress in life.
There’s much more to say about nicotine itself and the dosage but that’s for another time, you can just move those and eliminate 95% of the actual health problems.

>>512662977
checked based. i have virginia #27, havana gold, and a few other varieties i think get crossbred. they've been growing in my yard for a few years now so theyre now acclimated and keep getting better and better.

>>512662982
Romanian hospitals which get paid by the state also complain about it, because they've done multiple internal studies and figured out that a lot of health problems that people come in with are from smoking.

>>512658357 (OP)
Just take a nicotine lozenge, pouch, or spray; they all have high bioavailability, and they deliver quickly. The spray gives the quickest.
Then learn, by checking the facts and health impacts that there's nothing inherently magical about the cigarette itself, it's just tobacco leaves that are very high in radioactive isotopes which will stick in your lungs and hundreds of carcinogens and nasty stuff, your alveoli will permanently burst inside your lungs leading to shortness of breath as you progress in life.
There’s much more to say about nicotine itself and the dosage, but that’s for another time; you can just move those and eliminate 95% of the actual health problems.

>>512661922
i'm not even joking i want to smash your fucking head right open so that nothing remains of it and i wont have to live with your existence you waste of human flesh

>>512663341
I don't know mine it's mild though. But that's fine. I have tried to take wild tobacco but I handled it bare handed and almost passed out.

Cigars are a delightful experience although they have been lately associated with nu-masculinity. If you’re new to then I recommend going to a cigar lounge and asking for a rec

Pipes are great too, the only tobacco that smells amazing even to non-smokers. Unfortunately the two very best types of pipes you can get are calabash (the Sherlock Holmes pipe) and the Churchwarden (the Hobbit pipe), which both look very fedora. But their long stem and the shape of it means the moisture collects at the pipe and the smoke cools before reaching your mouth, leading to a very smooth smoking experience. I love to smoke a bowl when my brain is fried and I want to decompress

As far as cigarettes go, Chesterfield Kings non-filter are the absolute best but extremely difficult to find. Nothing compares

For a raw nicotine fix, vaping sucks and I use nicotine gum. I play poker for a living, mostly multitabling online but sometimes live, and I chew a lot of nicotine gum doing it. It is not really like smoking though anymore than everclear is little drinking good whiskey or beer, or caffeine pills are like a good espresso

>>512662633
I think, if you’re gonna smoke cigars, buy Latin or European ones. I know that Europe is way more strict with additives in their foods and Latinamerica has more of a simple approach when it comes making it. Any US cigar and your basically smoking nicslop.

>>512663544
Checked, I almost think the single-leaf cigarillo is the peak of smoking. You can choose a small or larger one but they are more of an 8-20 minute smoke rather than a full cigar which is a good hour proposition. I am going to try to roll some here this year, out of those little frondy leaves.

>>512658582
it helps with memorization too

>>512663665
one of my most liberating moments was rolling my own cigarillos from tobacco i grew and smoking them

>>512663544
Nioctine gum was found to be delivering less nicotine than both lozenges and pouches (like Zyn) which are equal, like if each of those it's advertised at 6mg nicotine and they will truly contain that chemically you will only get inside your body, for your brain to use, 25% of that with the gum, and 50-65% with the other two. The time for the release is also faster with those.

>>512663789
A work around is to get a much higher dose of nicotine gum if you prefer but what's easier than casually leaving a lozenge in your mouth or a pouch under your lip?

>>512663789
Yes but I went to nicotine gum I used to chew gum because chewing relaxes me while I play and prevents me from making foolish decisions due to boredom or tension. I just changed my regular gum for nicotine gum. Nicotine gum is not intended to be a satisfying habit, people use it to wean off tobacco. It certainly obliterates cravings, I like smoking but I never have smoking craving

>>512663178
How is your dental hygiene looking? Black gums? Dirty tongue? Fingers and teeth stained?

Compared to your standard cigarette like Marlboro, if someone were smoke one of that and one of your cigarette, can the average person taste and feel and smell the difference?

>>512664078
Ah then if that rewards you with more pleasure then that's the ideal option for you. I was more of trying to make a point about the nicotine delivery, if one aims to get as much of it as he wants in the brain.
6mg of gum =/= 6mg of those other two
you would need a higher dosage gum to feel the same way, actually you would feel better with the gum on top :P

But you're not meant to chew it all the time, it'll leak too much nicotine at once and it'll end in stomach, so you need an even higher dosage nicotine gum for sure!

>>512658357 (OP)
Everyone is different, but you're HIGHLY UNLIKELY to experience any serious adverse effects of smoking a cigar once or twice a month. It's not GOOD for you, but it's not going to do noticeable damage if you're not an athlete. If you have a weak heart, do not smoke anything with nicotine ever. High blood pressure is probably fine to smoke a cigar once a month.

Cigars are very enjoyable, probably to most people, and they taste and smell excellent compared to cigarettes.

Cigars are worse than cigarettes if you inhale the smoke, which you should not do, but they are less addictive. And even inhaling the smoke from an entire cigar once or twice a month will not do anything to you (unless you're an athlete.)

Don't EVER smoke cigarettes or vapes, it's the worst habit to kick, harder than any other substance on the planet. It's not the nicotine that is hard to kick, it's the physical act of daily smoking that is; and it's relatively cheap and always available to you.


tldr; Yes, you should indulge in a cigar occasionally if you want to, but don't ever smoke cigarettes or vape. Vaping won't kill you, but it's a dogshit habit that is a nightmare to quit, and it's still bad for your lungs and vocal cords 40 years down the line.

>>512663842
I don’t “park” nicotine gum like intended, I chew it all the way through. If I just needed smokeless tobacco though I would probably use dip or maybe a nicotine pouch if I wanted that

>>512663485
Why so mad moshe? Calm down, your tiny hat will fall off from the shaking

The best cigars come from Nicaragua or the Dominican Republic, not Cuba.

>>512663485
Sheesh, relax pal. Have a smoke, it'll make you feel better

>>512658357 (OP)
ok but maybe they really have turned the corner and are fine with us now cuz they are also getting rid of HFCS and other fattening foods

>>512664181
Vaping outcomes on the alveoli is still unknown, we don't know whether it'll permanently mess your lungs or not. Healthier than tobacco nonetheless but who knows with all those aromas people use, their combination when heated at such high temperatures and let's not even bring the fact that most vapers use shitty devices, throwaway sticks and they don't make their own coils with medical grade titanium just to be sure it's clean and won't shed metals when heated.
So mental intoxication is a real and present thing with vapers for sure.

>>512664117
Dental hygiene is always going to fine if you actually take care of your teeth, I use a Japanese toothpaste which mimics enamel and fills in where there is acid damage. If you have yellow stains just use a uv kit, it gets rid of them completely in a couple of weeks

>>512664176
Yeah more leaks and actually the taste is sort of like dip.

>>512664181
Virtually no one inhales cigar smoke. Maybe some people inhale cigarillo smoke, but cigar nicotine is absorbed by holding the smoke in your mouth and absorbing it in the gums. The main reason to spend so much on a cigar is unique taste and to savor that you want it on your tongue, not your lungs. A good cigar will absolutely hit you with a lot more nicotine even without inhaling than a cigarette will. You will feel it acutely

>>512664365
Right, bc all the good makers left Cuba when the embargo happened

>>512658850
>https://www.sott.net/article/338885-A-comprehensive-review-of-the-many-health-benefits-of-smoking-Tobacco
>china number 1 smoker
So they are sinking their penises with tobacco???

>>512663737
Nice and checked.

>>512664117
Nah you're thinking of people who habitually use tobacco all the time. In fact these days most people use super highly processed tobacco and byproducts, such as 'smokes' which don't say they are even cigarettes and are made out of paper made from the waste of the tobacco processing machines.

I pick, bundle into dozens, dry, cure, age, possibly stove and press, etc. my own home grown tobacco in limited fashion for my own individual consumption. It's a good hobby and I think if I was a liberal I would say everybody should have to grow their own tobacco. Weed too.

>>512664598
If I don’t have the space or dedicated time to grow my own, are there any websites or Jewtube channels that could direct me to the right person to buy my tobacco from? I’m based in Southern California if that’s relevant.

>>512664563
Interesting. Thank you for the responses.

>>512658357 (OP)
You work your ass off like a slave all week just to pay someone to poison you. Booze, weed, tobacco, etc. No thanks

>>512665035
Not the point of the thread but you knew that :^)

>>512665164

>>512658357 (OP)
i know someone who has sold drugs to niggers, as a eugenicist i support his actions.

>>512663485
The unhinged Jew. A very common sight. Sad!

>>512658357 (OP)
cigars are so wack. especially anyone who is under 55 - everyone pretending to be a "don corleone" its so fucking cringe.

>>512660605
I heard that smoking 2 cigars per day has a negligible effect on cancer rates.
The good thing about cigars is you dont inhale so it doesn't harm the lungs.
Lungs are more important than your mouth.
I used ti vape a lot but got sus'd out because of sll the flavorings and even ended up using just unflavored vg/pg juice, but there's still heavy metals in the coils etc.
I use zyns now and like them but its bullshit how there's no unflavored zyns availible in the US, even the unflavored ones they sell use artificial sweeteners. I just want pure nicotine I dont give a fuck about faggy flavors

>>512664365
These fuckers will make you puke if you aren't careful but man it's like a rich cake.

>>512658357 (OP)
basically it like
a bunch of people from alhind india
that manage hotels
they live there rent free
and they tell people in there to stop doing the smoke
but in the same community there some place that legally sells weed
the indian has some strange polytheism
that not acceptable they doing some double talk
prester john wants enslave white people
aragon and the mongolian doing the
silk road a war against our organs

>>512658357 (OP)
the indian type
lives rent free in every
hotel that something
not ethical

>>512658357 (OP)
people like US
do not want to be enslaved
by some indian types

>>512658357 (OP)
they sell people chemical products
unnatural and think people be a fool
but I am a clown

>>512658357 (OP)
they are bad for you.
They give you cancer, ruin your skin, ruin your tastebuds (after stopping to smoke food tastes sweeter), they stink you and your surroundings up and they give you are higher dose of radiation than literally working in a nuclear power plant or getting mris (most people dont even know that) and you pay for it.

Lol

>>512658357 (OP)
So, you want to suck on a thick brown elongated object anon?
I believe it's called a Freudian slip.

>>512664577
We’re not niggers ben
>muh dick
Doesn’t work on us

>>512670708
Typical hooknose can’t stop thinking about black pipe.

>>512670968
im merely pointing out how gay smoking is, and I didn't even mention the self harm, you do you