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Anonymous ID: ELdsIaYzNorway
8/10/2025, 9:33:09 AM No.512675506
afterlife
afterlife
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What happens when we die /pol/
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Anonymous ID: xGB45llJUnited States
8/10/2025, 9:34:59 AM No.512675573
>>512675506 (OP)
>hat happens when we die /pol/
An indian eats you believe or not.
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Anonymous ID: ET/3WRVhUnited States
8/10/2025, 9:35:54 AM No.512675610
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>>512675506 (OP)
We reincarnate, there is no leaving the soul farm, you're trapped here, forever.
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Anonymous ID: 2g8lhzKkFrance
8/10/2025, 9:38:59 AM No.512675719
>>512675506 (OP)
>baptism
NOOOO, NOT MY HECKING DESERT RELIGION
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Anonymous ID: kQhJJSraUnited Kingdom
8/10/2025, 9:40:52 AM No.512675793
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>>512675506 (OP)
Anonymous ID: 5GGMdbgNUnited States
8/10/2025, 9:41:07 AM No.512675802
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>>512675506 (OP)
It's like this.
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Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 9:41:28 AM No.512675815
>>512675506 (OP)
Our current existence is a reincarnation cycle.


reincarnate:
Live
Improve Soul (ideally, but not guaranteed)
Die
Undergo Trials

if pass, goto higher existence
else, goto reincarnate

higher existence:
????
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Anonymous ID: hh2B8PVRUnited States
8/10/2025, 9:41:43 AM No.512675828
You reincarnate. Try to not make the world a shittier place when you return.
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Anonymous ID: kQhJJSraUnited Kingdom
8/10/2025, 9:42:33 AM No.512675866
>>512675802
lmao imagine thinking the united states is better than China. Or Poland. Or The Philippines. Or even India
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Anonymous ID: tpeL0us1Australia
8/10/2025, 9:43:19 AM No.512675892
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md5: d5a83bcd8afc3168c23f8172eb83ab47๐Ÿ”
If you would please consult this map.
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Anonymous ID: wJgXyTvf
8/10/2025, 9:43:56 AM No.512675916
I hope nothing because if theres a chance of hell i dont like it even if theres s chance of eternal coom
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Anonymous ID: 5GGMdbgNUnited States
8/10/2025, 9:44:57 AM No.512675955
>>512675866
Lmfao you need a license to browse 4chan and your women are being raped and stabbed by Pakis while you sit there masturbating after providing your ID to your cucked draconian government. hahahahahhahahahahahahahaahhahahha
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Anonymous ID: Cq7vGjpPGermany
8/10/2025, 9:45:17 AM No.512675976
>>512675506 (OP)
you die and respawn again, so nothing really happens. you dont go to heaven, you dont go to hell, you just respawn again, maybe as human, maybe not.
but you will respawn, you live, you die, you respawn again and this cycle literally continues forever, it never ever stops.
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Anonymous ID: u920+h31United States
8/10/2025, 9:45:32 AM No.512675987
>>512675506 (OP)
In 1000 years my corpse will be ingested by that time period's nobility.
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Anonymous ID: i4A8XI/INetherlands
8/10/2025, 9:45:35 AM No.512675993
>>512675506 (OP)
If you love God, you will be close to Him, receiving the fullness of His light, warmth, joy and peace, and being in communion with the other Saints who are with Him. Think of it like orbiting close to a star with lots of others also in that same orbit.
But if you hate God, you are cast out. Nothing but cold, lonely, agonizing darkness awaits you there. Imagine being fully conscious of nothing but blackness, feeling like you are constantly freezing, experiencing the most intense emotions of regret, sorrow, fear, dread, grief and rage possible. You want to cry, but there are no tears and you cannot scream. It truly is hell.
I'd avise you to get to know God. He's pretty great, you'll love Him
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Anonymous ID: I0BSecN8Germany
8/10/2025, 9:46:18 AM No.512676017
>>512675506 (OP)
Absolutely nothing. Your mind just stop existing while your body is rotting away.
You only have this one life, so do something useful with it.
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Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 9:46:37 AM No.512676024
>>512675916
Hell is the second trial. It's not really hell though, it's perceived as hell because you get to experience all the pain and suffering you caused others in your life as if it were 1st person. You don't get a choice in the matter either.
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Anonymous ID: aGvxZ/K+Canada
8/10/2025, 9:47:07 AM No.512676038
file
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>>512675506 (OP)
What if I've apostated from Islam doe
Anonymous ID: W2sTVOwLGermany
8/10/2025, 9:47:28 AM No.512676053
>>512675993
God does not exist, sorry bucko.
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Anonymous ID: u920+h31United States
8/10/2025, 9:47:30 AM No.512676055
>>512676017
>trust me, it just takes faith to believe this
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Anonymous ID: i4A8XI/INetherlands
8/10/2025, 9:48:22 AM No.512676084
>>512676053
I've seen Him and I've seen hell. He's real. You don't want to find out the hard way, trust me
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Anonymous ID: H2AAnvTGUnited Kingdom
8/10/2025, 9:48:57 AM No.512676109
>>512675506 (OP)
lol what if youโ€™re good and honourable, or try as best you can, and still require your own proof of god not some old books?
Anonymous ID: mBZV9K/DSweden
8/10/2025, 9:49:03 AM No.512676115
>>512675506 (OP)
When you die you are dead. Nothing happens. That's kind of the point of death.
Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 9:49:14 AM No.512676119
>>512675993
If there is a God, they would be the system administrator/operator most likely overseeing the reincarnation cycle. All the religions make as much as sense as a dyslexic retard's novel.
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Anonymous ID: u920+h31United States
8/10/2025, 9:49:19 AM No.512676122
>>512676053
Then why do you wear a little black hat?
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Anonymous ID: W2sTVOwLGermany
8/10/2025, 9:49:44 AM No.512676143
>>512676084
Next time you see him pls ask babies first question like "why does God inflict pain upon the world (disabled people etc)"
Anonymous ID: ET/3WRVhUnited States
8/10/2025, 9:49:53 AM No.512676151
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>>512676017
>source: trust me bro

This poster is clearly an archon.
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Anonymous ID: u920+h31United States
8/10/2025, 9:50:03 AM No.512676160
>>512676119
>explained by a random retard
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Anonymous ID: H2AAnvTGUnited Kingdom
8/10/2025, 9:51:01 AM No.512676203
>>512676024
so the ones that wronged me first will too? awesome.
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Anonymous ID: kQhJJSraUnited Kingdom
8/10/2025, 9:51:17 AM No.512676211
>>512675955
I never said the UK was heavenly, did I faggot? What sort of cope is this? You either have niggers and jews in heaven in heaven or it's not the US
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Anonymous ID: I0BSecN8Germany
8/10/2025, 9:51:24 AM No.512676216
>>512676055
>>512676151
Prove me wrong
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Anonymous ID: 5H0VvUKzUnited States
8/10/2025, 9:52:10 AM No.512676244
>>512675506 (OP)
repeatedly had this dream where i nod off to sleep and wake up where there's nothing but white autumn fog. cant see but 2 meters around. all i have is my duty uniform, IBA, and my AR slung on my shoulder once again. and its the end of one road, and the start of another to Valhalla. all it does is lead upward. up, up, up. part of me wants to believe that's my free trial of death just to give me hope of what's down the line.

because dying of old age while watching your nation slowly die turns out to be pretty fuckin shitty
Anonymous ID: gR6D1MqNUnited States
8/10/2025, 9:52:20 AM No.512676251
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>>512676151
Don't forget that demons infest the internet
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Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 9:52:42 AM No.512676269
>>512676160
This is just my logical theory based on combining frameworks from Jung, reincarnation/simulation theory, and having studied a bunch of NDEs. If you believe in the bible and all that jazz, then the trials will take that form to some extent so you feel more comfortable in them. This is why in some NDEs people claim to meet family/Jesus/whatever. It's all part of the test.
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Anonymous ID: u920+h31United States
8/10/2025, 9:53:22 AM No.512676286
>>512676216
>prove me wrong
No, faggot. Thats not how this works.
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Anonymous ID: lJt39+05United States
8/10/2025, 9:53:22 AM No.512676287
>>512676151
Y'know, when you think about it, that's just Dutch.
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Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 9:54:33 AM No.512676336
>>512676203
Yep, those who have caused you to suffer will experience that suffering themselves. You can only imagine how brutal this will be for jews.
Anonymous ID: ET/3WRVhUnited States
8/10/2025, 9:55:10 AM No.512676363
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>>512676216
I HATE THE DEMIURGE I HATE THE DEMIURGE I HATE THE DEMIURGE I HATE THE DEMIURGE I HATE THE DEMIURGE I HATE THE DEMIURGE I HATE THE DEMIURGE I HATE THE DEMIURGE
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Anonymous ID: I0BSecN8Germany
8/10/2025, 9:55:15 AM No.512676367
>>512676286
So you believe in lies because the truth will hurt your feelings?
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Anonymous ID: gv2DbGHKNetherlands
8/10/2025, 9:55:18 AM No.512676371
Does the concept of reincarnation freak anyone else out? The odds of being reborn in a shithole are too fucking high
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Newfag Rapist ID: zHvwHIkJGermany
8/10/2025, 9:55:38 AM No.512676385
>>512675506 (OP)
you will become fertilizer and become plants
Anonymous ID: I0BSecN8Germany
8/10/2025, 9:56:48 AM No.512676438
>>512676363
Good for you. I hate what the demiurge represents, that doesn't mean i believe that the demiurge really exists.
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Anonymous ID: gR6D1MqNUnited States
8/10/2025, 9:57:46 AM No.512676472
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>>512676371
That will be the only life you know, you won't know any better
Anonymous ID: zHvwHIkJGermany
8/10/2025, 9:58:07 AM No.512676483
>>512675506 (OP)
you will become fertilizer and become a plant
Anonymous ID: ET/3WRVhUnited States
8/10/2025, 9:58:12 AM No.512676489
>>512676371
Don't forget that reincarnation also involves different time periods, you could end up in shit hole time period too, like a European during the plague.
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Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 9:58:40 AM No.512676507
>>512676371
It's not random. It's partially a punishment for your previous life, but it's also an opportunity to improve your soul through attaining wisdom from the new perspective. I would argue it's pretty efficient. Jeets, Niggers, Jews, etc., they were born into those places because in their previous lives they were pieces of shit and now they're being punished for it. Jews I suspect just keep getting reincarnated under a special case because I don't believe they have the ability to ever pass the trials. Their entire religion basically doomed their asses for eternity.
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Anonymous ID: ZgpVkhSaUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:00:08 AM No.512676582
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>>512676053
You're not wrong, but that gets kinda boring. I'd rather look up fringe schizo theories about the afterlife and believe them wholeheartedly.
Anonymous ID: Cq7vGjpPGermany
8/10/2025, 10:02:31 AM No.512676675
>>512676507
>It's not random
it literally is random, there is nobody keeping track of your sins or of anything that you do. basically all you do is meaningless and it doesnt matter if you do good or bad.
you are pretty much oversized bacteria whos job is to eat up the planet, same way small bacteria devour a carcass or expired food.
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Anonymous ID: ET/3WRVhUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:02:55 AM No.512676688
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>>512676251
Would not surprise me.
Anonymous ID: 2ae7dyCq
8/10/2025, 10:04:10 AM No.512676735
>>512676371
Don't walk towards the light dutch bro. All that bullshit in popular culture is part of the soul trap.
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Anonymous ID: lJt39+05United States
8/10/2025, 10:04:23 AM No.512676744
>>512676675
>I have no memory of my life so no one does!
I can see how you would make that mistake.
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Anonymous ID: Cq7vGjpPGermany
8/10/2025, 10:05:03 AM No.512676768
>>512676735
you have zero control over the respawn.
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Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:05:06 AM No.512676773
>>512676675
Incorrect. The first trial is a complete review of your entire life. You will literally remember everything perfectly, including read this post. For this to happen, clearly everything is logged in a higher dimension, which would be trivial if you think about it. Perhaps "God" is the records keeper as well.
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Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:05:41 AM No.512676799
>>512676773
and reading* this typo correction
Anonymous ID: Cq7vGjpPGermany
8/10/2025, 10:06:00 AM No.512676814
>>512676744
once you respawn you dont remember anything from the previous lifes.
Anonymous ID: GQ1DiUAsSlovenia
8/10/2025, 10:06:09 AM No.512676820
>>512676269
>test
Why the need for testing? Why would you want to test something if you can make it properly from the start? Unless you can't make it properly and you're not sure if it will work or not.
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Anonymous ID: Awihc1T3Canada
8/10/2025, 10:06:28 AM No.512676829
eternal nothing, not even boredom. everyone you love and want to go to heaven is really gone forever.
Anonymous ID: mY9sTYO8Italy
8/10/2025, 10:06:38 AM No.512676836
>>512675802
>China above Poland
Nice try insectoid
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Anonymous ID: 3vpalaVT
8/10/2025, 10:07:01 AM No.512676846
>>512675506 (OP)
>What happens when we die /pol/

we're living in a simulation, faggot.
Anonymous ID: dMiGato2United States
8/10/2025, 10:07:05 AM No.512676847
>>512675506 (OP)
Nothing, We are not special. We are not interdimensional. Stop being so narcissist. for fucks sake.
Anonymous ID: ET/3WRVhUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:07:06 AM No.512676849
>>512676507
So the most evil Jews end up in ancient Rome getting BTFO constantly?
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Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:08:06 AM No.512676885
>>512676820
Don't know. You're starting to delve into an even higher plane of existence beyond the reincarnation cycle. We do it all the time, I don't see why the same mechanisms wouldn't be applied in a higher dimension even if we don't know the purpose.
Anonymous ID: Cq7vGjpPGermany
8/10/2025, 10:08:25 AM No.512676906
>>512676773
>For this to happen, clearly everything is logged in a higher dimension
you mean in the neurons in your brain that give you a last review before you actually croak.
after that its just another respawn and another meaningless shitty life.
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Anonymous ID: lsRR6rHAUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:08:27 AM No.512676908
>>512675506 (OP)
We stop existing
Anonymous ID: wwqcI2wiUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:08:29 AM No.512676910
>>512675976
Reincarnation is retarded Pajeet bullshit. It's no different from non-existence.
>but you come ba-
No, you come back as someone entirely different and everything you were before is erased. That's the exact same thing as oblivion after death.
So there's either a permanent place where our souls go, or there's nothing after death, and everything just turns off forever.
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Anonymous ID: I0BSecN8Germany
8/10/2025, 10:08:48 AM No.512676918
>>512676773
So the whole existence of everything, in this dimension and all the others, only exist to serve humans? So gods only purpose is to care about humans too?
Have you taken your meds today anon?
Anonymous ID: wwqcI2wiUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:09:47 AM No.512676955
>>512675573
>>512675610
>>512675815
>>512675828
>Reincarnation
SAAAAAAAR
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Anonymous ID: zGk1NYFTCanada
8/10/2025, 10:10:16 AM No.512676977
>>512675506 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tf72DtkGvI
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Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:10:21 AM No.512676981
>>512676849
I haven't seen an NDEs where they claim they went backwards in time, so I don't think this simulation functions like that. It's always moving forward and there's a queue of souls waiting to reincarnate. It's also possible this could be happening on a galactic scale, so maybe a jew dies here and is reincarnated as a space jew in the jew nebula.
Anonymous ID: HD1kG49TNetherlands
8/10/2025, 10:10:51 AM No.512677001
>>512676287
i wish

nigger
Anonymous ID: ET/3WRVhUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:12:49 AM No.512677079
>>512676955
Reincarnation has been a thing in pre Christian religions forever, even Germanic ones. It's pretty consistently there in non Abrahamic religions.
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Anonymous ID: Cq7vGjpPGermany
8/10/2025, 10:13:01 AM No.512677085
>>512676910
your body is nothing more than a point of view for the universe to look inward. when you die and respawn the point of view changes.
obviously you arent going to be the same person, you will have different experiences, learn different things at different times and you are as clueless as everyone else is.
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Anonymous ID: gv2DbGHKNetherlands
8/10/2025, 10:13:49 AM No.512677120
>>512676955
Rebirth is a proto-indo european concept, not just found in India
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Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:13:59 AM No.512677128
>>512676906
I don't believe that's how the brain works. My theory is your soul is simply controlling your meat avatar. When you're "born" the soul is attached to your avatar and it's basically remote piloted. I know this because I've awakened and they way I perceive the world is as if I'm piloting a meat bot. The brain is just a control system for the meat, it doesn't store anything. When you die, the connection severs. Simple as.

This of course is hilarious to think about because all of modern science believes the brain does store information, so they're spending shitloads of cash trying to figure this out and it all their approaches will never work.
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Anonymous ID: wwqcI2wiUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:14:34 AM No.512677154
>>512676371
That's why when this topic comes up shills, tards, and Jeets flood it with obsessions over reincarnation. It's made up bullshit, so don't worry. We only have to live through this shit once - whether we live eternally or stop existing at death.
Anonymous ID: wwqcI2wiUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:17:30 AM No.512677266
>>512676507
>they were born into those places because in their previous lives they were pieces of shit and now they're being punished for it.
The raw number of souls existing today versus those who have lived in the past proves this theory wrong. There weren't billions of people who were all so evil they all respawned as Jeets only recently in the last few decades. Souls either exist prior to be born, or we're forged here in the material realm. Reincarnation is Jeet bullshit.
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Anonymous ID: Cq7vGjpPGermany
8/10/2025, 10:17:30 AM No.512677267
>>512677128
the brain works through chemistry and chemistry is based upon electricity.
basically your body is just a closed electric circuit that traps some of the energy that the universe is made of.
when you die this energy is released back into the ocean of piss again and when the piss sprays up the tiny self contained bubbles that are suspended in the air for a brief moment, thats (You).
so there is no soul, there is only the large ocean of electric energy that makes the universe.
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Anonymous ID: l61QcNUlUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:18:36 AM No.512677306
>>512675506 (OP)
Nothing. You die and that's the end.
Anonymous ID: gR6D1MqNUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:19:47 AM No.512677361
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>>512677267
The electric energy is the soul dingus
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Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:20:02 AM No.512677375
>>512677267
If you want to believe that dolt tier explanation you're free to do so. I prefer to believe there's a purpose to this all, the most probable being to improve our souls. In any case, unless you've awakened you can't perceive this difference, and if you haven't awakened it also means you're not going to pass the trials. You ain't ready.
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Anonymous ID: TMkzbzJbUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:20:57 AM No.512677417
>>512675506 (OP)
In America, when you die you vote Democrat
Anonymous ID: Cq7vGjpPGermany
8/10/2025, 10:21:02 AM No.512677421
>>512677361
sorry for the typo, I meant to write "souls" as in plural
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Anonymous ID: wwqcI2wiUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:21:54 AM No.512677476
>>512677079
>Dipshit retards were also wrong about this thing
OK?
>>512677085
Woah dude that's crazy woah
Same thing as oblivion after death so nothing you wrote means anything. Your perspective compared to that of a materialistic atheist is exactly the same.
>>512677120
And it's bullshit. The only theory that has any worth to it is Gnosticism for the most part. It's the only religion that's taken a solid crack at the problems that are ignored or coped about by everyone else.
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Anonymous ID: MP5GPhV7India
8/10/2025, 10:22:07 AM No.512677494
>>512675506 (OP)
You respawn.
Anonymous ID: Cq7vGjpPGermany
8/10/2025, 10:23:23 AM No.512677538
>>512677375
>If you want to believe
thats the thing, its not about believe at all but what is actually measurable and how things in this universe actually work.
>I prefer
the universe doesnt care what you prefer, your beliefs has no influence on it at all.
and its basically a sandbox so you are free to do think and cope however you want.
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Anonymous ID: ZgpVkhSaUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:25:26 AM No.512677608
I never got the appeal of reincarnation. What's the point if you don't remember your past life? You might as well be a brand-new soul, freshly poofed into existence. It makes zero difference as far as I'm concerned.
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Anonymous ID: Cq7vGjpPGermany
8/10/2025, 10:25:43 AM No.512677618
>>512677476
there is no god micromanaging you or giving a shit about you.
the universe is an uncaring but somewhat intelligent lifeform. kinda like an LLM which also is "intelligent" but doesnt actually give any fucks.
religion cucks have a hard time accepting that they are trapped in here forever.
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Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:28:30 AM No.512677730
>>512677538
We don't know how the universe works. We're a bunch of fucking retards in the regard. Anyone who believes otherwise is low IQ.
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Anonymous ID: n74tIG/vAustria
8/10/2025, 10:30:05 AM No.512677781
>>512677538
You're a total midwit if you trust modern science. They are corrupted to the core and lie about everything
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Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:30:28 AM No.512677795
>>512677608
It has something to do with the veil of ignorance. If you remembered your other lives, the act of being reincarnated to learn something is no longer independent, it's dependent, and that fucks up the entire system/process.
Anonymous ID: Cq7vGjpPGermany
8/10/2025, 10:30:45 AM No.512677806
>>512677730
>We don't know how the universe works.
people already understood how it works over a 100+ years ago, but as soon as larger breakthroughs were made the mainstream jew in media and academia shut it down and started to promote fake physics and failed theories instead.
and just because YOU are ignorant doesnt mean everyone is.
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Anonymous ID: swTn+M7fUnited Kingdom
8/10/2025, 10:30:57 AM No.512677815
There is no celestial kingdom for the dead in biblical christianity. As has been explained here many times. Clergy made that up for ease of explanation, taking the green light from christ dumbing things down for the people killed with him.
The kingdom of heaven is entirely real & physical it is this world with the curse lifted and it begins after judgement day.
The dead are in the same void you when you came from death to life. But thatโ€™s okay there is no time there. Some people call it Sheol.
Anonymous ID: 6YowjATePoland
8/10/2025, 10:31:06 AM No.512677820
>>512676836
I could believe that, depends on which part of china you spawn in. But USA? No lmao, that's a hellhole
Anonymous ID: hiUWvBJ0United States
8/10/2025, 10:31:34 AM No.512677838
>>512676820
You can't create God without souls experiencing him
Perfect souls can be angels and the ones who rebel demons, but the player characters need limitations to experience the beauty
Anonymous ID: swTn+M7fUnited Kingdom
8/10/2025, 10:32:01 AM No.512677857
There is no celestial kingdom for the dead in biblical christianity. As has been explained here many times. Clergy made that up for ease of explanation, taking the green light from christ dumbing things down for the people killed with him.
The kingdom of heaven is entirely real & physical it is this world with the curse lifted and it begins after judgement day.
The dead are in the same void you were in when you came from death to life. But thatโ€™s okay there is no time there. Some people call it Sheol.
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Anonymous ID: Cq7vGjpPGermany
8/10/2025, 10:32:09 AM No.512677859
>>512677781
I wasnt talking about mainstream science.
and you are actually so brainwashed with it you never even heard of the alternatives.
Anonymous ID: J5ve82Y7United States
8/10/2025, 10:32:13 AM No.512677863
1000075489
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md5: 819f45a9b8a3a4b011a646c1e681c195๐Ÿ”
>>512676211
brown hands typed this
Anonymous ID: ZgpVkhSaUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:32:55 AM No.512677882
>>512675506 (OP)
The electrical and chemical processes in your brain, which from all observation are responsible for the human mind or consciousness (if I'm allowed to use that word,) will cease and you will lose all awareness. Then your body is eaten by worms as the world keeps on spinning without you. Nobody has ever come back.

Unless the mormons are right like your pic, and if they are I'm going to outer darkness cuz I'm an exmo.
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Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:33:20 AM No.512677897
>>512677806
I have numerous STEM degrees. What I learned from all of them is that people don't really know shit. Yea we can get things to work, but it's all cobbled together. Even math is fucked from a foundational level where we're just supposed to assume it's true. We don't actually KNOW if it's true. The more you learn, the less you understand. It's the paradox that only intelligent people understand.
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Anonymous ID: X06PA0brUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:33:51 AM No.512677909
>>512675866
brb reporting you for digital negativity
enjoy prison
Anonymous ID: 9XDgXfc4United States
8/10/2025, 10:33:59 AM No.512677915
>>512675506 (OP)
a jew steals your shekels
Anonymous ID: I0BSecN8Germany
8/10/2025, 10:34:41 AM No.512677938
>>512677806
I would say we know 90% how the universe works. We still miss the link between astro and quantumphysics.
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Anonymous ID: Oaw+PJ2VUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:35:11 AM No.512677958
>>512675506 (OP)
Is this Homestuck?
Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:35:54 AM No.512677984
>>512677938
Yea you're fucked, probably going to reincarnate as a jeet.
Anonymous ID: Cq7vGjpPGermany
8/10/2025, 10:36:51 AM No.512678011
>>512677897
>I have numerous STEM degrees.
that you got from Rockefeller financed universities that have the job to keep you clueless about whats really going on.
Kinda like a doctor who thinks vaccines are safe and effective because he learned it in jew school.
>Even math is fucked
not at all, Mathematics is the language of nature. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers.
If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge.
Therefore, there are patterns everywhere in nature.
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Anonymous ID: cGAz2xO6Germany
8/10/2025, 10:37:22 AM No.512678034
Jesus Christ loves me and save me._thumb.jpg
Jesus Christ loves me and save me._thumb.jpg
md5: 1b4853558623700e2787545ba652bd7c๐Ÿ”
I will not die.
My God Jesus Christ says to me "I will glide you safely to your regime of laughter, joy and reign."
My God Jesus Christ and me his Chosen second Christ we will live forever together in our Christ Kingdom, our New World Order happily ever after for all eternity.
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Anonymous ID: hiUWvBJ0United States
8/10/2025, 10:38:20 AM No.512678069
>>512677897
How is math fucked?
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Anonymous ID: swTn+M7fUnited Kingdom
8/10/2025, 10:38:39 AM No.512678087
>>512677882
No you are going to go and colonise the sun or something similar.
Most everyone you know wonโ€™t make it either so itโ€™s not remarkable.
Heaven & the creator are terrible. Take a look around. Look at the majority of life which is in the sea all eating each other alive with noone to help or care. God is terrifying, but the clergy lie like chinks.
Anonymous ID: jaYRRQtQUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:38:52 AM No.512678098
>>512675506 (OP)
Hindu here, I see a lot of misconception here as to what reincarnation is, or how it doesn't make sense. Check out this link patiently and reflect, I believe it captures some interesting aspects of death and afterlife

https://youtu.be/h6fcK_fRYaI
Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:39:21 AM No.512678114
>>512678011
All the foundations of mathematics are unproven. If you actually had a background in math you would know this. It's all assumption and deemed axiomatic.
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Anonymous ID: k3Qpsl85
8/10/2025, 10:39:41 AM No.512678131
You see a text pop up
"Insert Coin To Play Again"
Anonymous ID: Cq7vGjpPGermany
8/10/2025, 10:40:18 AM No.512678153
>>512678114
>All the foundations of mathematics are unproven
thats what the jew wants you to think
Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:40:30 AM No.512678155
>>512678069
What do you think mathematicians fight over all the time? Go do some research and alleviate your ignorance. There's a mountain the size of Everest of debate in mathematics.
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Anonymous ID: Cq7vGjpPGermany
8/10/2025, 10:41:11 AM No.512678180
>>512678155
>What do you think mathematicians fight over all the time?
funding from jews
Anonymous ID: hiUWvBJ0United States
8/10/2025, 10:42:49 AM No.512678237
>>512678155
You can't give a example?

Going to be hostile and tell me to research math isn't real wtf lol
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chud ID: WKUuigdlUruguay
8/10/2025, 10:43:02 AM No.512678244
>>512675802
This post won't age well
Anonymous ID: Qpg3kbXlEstonia
8/10/2025, 10:43:06 AM No.512678248
cf503e22_1
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>>512675610
>implying he has a soul
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Anonymous ID: i4A8XI/INetherlands
8/10/2025, 10:44:43 AM No.512678307
>>512676119
>dude God has to make sense to my limited human intellect
oh ok, of course, sure
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Anonymous ID: tGAIRVSCUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:44:45 AM No.512678308
I don't know.
Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:46:13 AM No.512678350
>>512678237
I haven't been focused on math in years. I don't keep up with it anymore. You're free to look up some of the problems. I think there's even a whole slew of youtube channels that make videos in this topic space. I personally find it all meaningless these days.
Anonymous ID: F4gIaluzUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:46:59 AM No.512678379
>>512676955
Gnostic Christianity also believed in reincarnation too, retard. Even certain sects of Jews do today.
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Anonymous ID: AUAlWE+/Finland
8/10/2025, 10:49:26 AM No.512678449
>>512675506 (OP)
Same thing that happened before you were born. Nothing. Death is simply a state of non-existence
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Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:50:03 AM No.512678466
>>512678307
Everyone's intellect is limited because time is a hard constraint. You make your tradeoffs like everyone else. I've worked with many PhDs in my time who were super specialized geniuses in their field, completely fucking retarded in damn near everything else. It all depends on how you allocate your time, you can dig a really deep hole, a few medium holes, or you can dig a lot of shallow holes.
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Anonymous ID: i4A8XI/INetherlands
8/10/2025, 10:53:19 AM No.512678582
>>512676820
You have a temporal view of God. God does not deal in "possibilities" or "can". God simply does.
What we perceive as a "test" is really the manifestation of the ontological necessity of our acts which justify us.
I'm not sure if I've articulated this properly, but I hope this helps.
Anonymous ID: i4A8XI/INetherlands
8/10/2025, 10:54:23 AM No.512678627
>>512678466
>Everyone's intellect is limited
I know. I wasn't saying there's others smarter than you out there. But no matter how smart a person is, they cannot make sense of God.
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Anonymous ID: i4A8XI/INetherlands
8/10/2025, 10:56:14 AM No.512678690
>>512678069
>>512678237
The guy isn't very good at explaining things, but he's right. Look up Gรถdel and the aftermath of his Incompleteness Theorems. Mathematics at the foundation relies on Logical systems, but none of them can fully explain Mathematics and the fundamental axioms have to be taken on faith
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Anonymous ID: EgWbVkJ6United Kingdom
8/10/2025, 10:56:43 AM No.512678703
>>512678248
>he assumes that souls are bound by linear time
you can die tomorrow and reincarnate as a worm that lived a million years ago. you can reincarnate as a crab that was born a week after you were and lived it's entire life contemporary to yours. your soul may be currently living hundreds of seperate lives, it might be living just one right now. you may have fought yourself, fucked yourself or even eaten yourself and as long a life persits you will likely do it again
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Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:57:59 AM No.512678760
>>512678627
You can make sense of the assumption of God, which God is an assumption. And then there's the assumptions if there is a God, what's God function. It just spirals out of control on assumptions. And nobody knows jack shit about what's actually true, it's just a bunch of retards arguing over who assumptions are assumed to be more probable. I would argue my assumption seems more probable as it is more cohesive as a whole than any arbitrary religion.
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Anonymous ID: /4UP5xF1Switzerland
8/10/2025, 10:59:04 AM No.512678791
esse est percipi
esse est percipi
md5: 759ab57227e0730c32a2a19b1c6adc11๐Ÿ”
>>512675506 (OP)
The entire universe dies with you, because consciousness is the condition of the possibility of its existence. Esse est percipi.
Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 10:59:43 AM No.512678814
>>512678690
>The guy isn't very good at explaining things
Story of my life right there. Fucking hits me in the feels too.
Anonymous ID: 1fF3GtaTCzech Republic
8/10/2025, 11:00:14 AM No.512678837
>>512677267
>explains the soul
>so there is no soul
so close anon, you see the same things, just use different words
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Anonymous ID: x2eSuhaDSwitzerland
8/10/2025, 11:00:56 AM No.512678864
>>512675815
yes, prophet joseph also taught of multiple mortal probations before exaltation and godhood. however, u reincarnate in different worlds, not necessarily repeatedly on earth
Anonymous ID: WQ6t+BZeGermany
8/10/2025, 11:01:09 AM No.512678871
>>512678837
see >>512677421
Anonymous ID: hiUWvBJ0United States
8/10/2025, 11:02:08 AM No.512678915
>>512678690
I'll check it out but prob be disappointed
Anonymous ID: Qpg3kbXlEstonia
8/10/2025, 11:02:37 AM No.512678927
>>512678703
Show me proof or stop talking nonsense
Anonymous ID: i4A8XI/INetherlands
8/10/2025, 11:04:23 AM No.512678984
>>512678760
No, there's a few basic things you can actually logically deduce, but the fullness of God you can't comprehend.
For example, it seems that the Universe at its foundation adheres to Logic. This Logic has to come from somewhere. Logic runs on the principles of reason, meaning that whatever caused Logic must be capable of reason, i.e. conscious. This is where Plato came up with Logos/Demiurge (note: not the Gnostic bullshit).
So whatever caused the Universe to be, is a conscious and reasonable entity. It has to be supernatural, because it exists outside of the Universe. If it caused the Universe, it is all-powerful, and if it caused the Logic of the Universe, it is all-knowing. Logic is present everywhere and constantly, meaning that the entity is ever-present and consistently granting being to reality.
So we can deduce a classical God very easily, just by thinking about this logically.
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Anonymous ID: EfUKLblhUnited States
8/10/2025, 11:05:13 AM No.512679023
>>512677476
you seem mad
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Anonymous ID: 2WOlwPSKUnited States
8/10/2025, 11:06:09 AM No.512679059
>>512675506 (OP)
>you canโ€™t get into heaven if you donโ€™t have a gf
Whoever wrote this was an asshole
Anonymous ID: hiUWvBJ0United States
8/10/2025, 11:07:00 AM No.512679090
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>>512678690
These theories sounds like flat earth stuff
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Anonymous ID: RnakQCYDPoland
8/10/2025, 11:07:07 AM No.512679095
>>512676017
>Absolutely nothing.
Is not bad scenario.
Given how many esoteric bullshit theories our species made it is highly probable that everyone is in breech of some divine law like "anon you forgot to spit four times on fourth day of fourth month of leap year" and go straight into eternal torrent.
>but muh imaginary friend said that if I follow his dogma I will be saved!
Consider the fact that you may be wrong.
Anonymous ID: wwqcI2wiUnited States
8/10/2025, 11:07:38 AM No.512679117
>>512679023
I exist. Why wouldn't I be mad?
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Anonymous ID: 1M6YnnQ/United Kingdom
8/10/2025, 11:09:09 AM No.512679169
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>>512677267
This is correct. Itโ€™s not when youโ€™re born and die though. It every time you wake up. The memory of your avatar is in the avatars brain. You could observe a new avatar tomorrow. This is transcendence. Understanding that you are not your avatar. Itโ€™s just a temporary vessel.

T.pajeet

>>512677375

There are no trials, every observer merely chooses where to travel next via their karmic debt and energy. It can be in opposite directions for two different observers, your heaven may be anotherโ€™s hell and vice Versa. Or it could be the same. It doesnโ€™t really matter.

The problem is you need something to fear because you are a weak avatar.
Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 11:10:04 AM No.512679207
>>512678984
God could be the being running the simulation/cycle as well. God could just an operating system for a being of even higher order. We can go down this path ad infinitum and all we end up with is assumptions.

At the end of the day, everyone has to choose to believe what works best for them because nobody knows anything while living.
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Anonymous ID: i4A8XI/INetherlands
8/10/2025, 11:10:14 AM No.512679215
>>512679090
They're literally the foundation of modern science and mathematics. Look up Zermelo-Fraenkel Set Theoy
Anonymous ID: i4A8XI/INetherlands
8/10/2025, 11:10:48 AM No.512679234
>>512679207
Why would you make those assumptions? What evidence do you have of any of that?
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Anonymous ID: qSfxpieTUnited States
8/10/2025, 11:13:20 AM No.512679335
>>512679234
Because my mind asks questions that there are no answers to, so the next logical course is to make assumptions about possibilities of answers.
Anonymous ID: EfUKLblhUnited States
8/10/2025, 11:13:23 AM No.512679340
>>512679117
I hope you have a good day
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Anonymous ID: wwqcI2wiUnited States
8/10/2025, 11:14:55 AM No.512679388
>>512678379
You remerge with your higher divine self in the Plerum. The people who reincarnate in Gnosticism are people who won't let go of materialism. Being reincarnated isnt a major theme or goal in Gnosticism, the whole point is you're trying to get out of it. I think the only ones that get reincarnated are kikes, niggers, and divine essence that wasn't able to get a functioning body and accompanying mind that is needed for gnosis.
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Anonymous ID: RnakQCYDPoland
8/10/2025, 11:15:52 AM No.512679426
>>512678984
>Universe at its foundation adheres to Logic
You have it backwards.
Our logic is based on universe around us. It is logical because we are product of it, so it is logical for us. There is no inherit logical quality to it. Just like it is logical for jeet to shit on street and bath in shit river. He was raised in shit place so shit is logical to him while it is repulsive to us. In greater scale universe seems logical to us because we are product of it's existence.
Secondly it is not logical. Because our "common sense" logic works in macro scales of Newtonian psychics and gets less and less "logical" as we get into micro scales and back in time.
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Anonymous ID: j1OUBxweFrance
8/10/2025, 11:16:37 AM No.512679455
when we're born we are born with simply consciousness. awareness. everything else we develop. why should death be any different than returning to formless awareness? it is the height of human hubris thinking that whatever things we do on this rock is somehow at all quantified and carried into non existence. you were not significant before birth and there surely wont be an eternal realm waiting after death these are fairytales by human mind because they fear the void
Anonymous ID: wwqcI2wiUnited States
8/10/2025, 11:16:57 AM No.512679464
>>512679340
Thanks. You too.
Anonymous ID: LQRH6+pcEstonia
8/10/2025, 11:18:01 AM No.512679494
>>512675506 (OP)
We don't know. Any other answer is speculation. Just don't worry about it.
Anonymous ID: i4A8XI/INetherlands
8/10/2025, 11:19:28 AM No.512679533
>>512679426
>Our logic is based on universe around us
You're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not talking about our understanding of logic. What I'm calling Logic is the underlying pattern of all change in the universe. The "source code" of the universe, basically. We can see certain fundamental truths in this Logic, which IS what our logic is based on, but our logic is not the entirety of Logic. But we know that the Logic of the Universe adheres to certain principles of reason, such as laws of non-contradiction and identity, etc.
Anonymous ID: N5MDSI48Brazil
8/10/2025, 11:19:49 AM No.512679543
>>512675506 (OP)
>If you leave our faith you get a worse punishment than the lowest scum
predictable religious fearmongering
Anonymous ID: QRsycTaZRomania
8/10/2025, 11:23:42 AM No.512679682
1747996031608073
1747996031608073
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>>512675610
Anonymous ID: 5B5w9/jWUnited States
8/10/2025, 11:28:34 AM No.512679852
1750308146413795
1750308146413795
md5: 3e3832ad5597b8be285f545031031d57๐Ÿ”
Definitely not a Mormon cosmology kek. If you want security knowing the destination of your eternal soul, receive the gospel of Christ passed down through apostolic succession, counsels, & creeds in his body, which is The Church victorious. The gates of hell have not prevailed for the past 2000 years since in the face of heresies, false prophets, and apostasy.
Whether you choose Orthodox, Traditional Anglican, Roman Catholic, know that salvation is God given grace for your faith knowing His Son.
>in b4 (((jesus))) slander
picrel.
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Anonymous ID: X5xqy6i4United Kingdom
8/10/2025, 11:36:13 AM No.512680092
>>512678449
Yeah, but there's no apparatus of perception at that time of nonexistence. So it might last a minute or 1000 years, it's irrelevant. From your perspective you respawn straight away when favourable circumstances appear again
Anonymous ID: jUlxiW5iUnited States
8/10/2025, 12:05:23 PM No.512681058
>>512675866
objectively its better
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Anonymous ID: L15iorkqMorocco
8/10/2025, 12:47:42 PM No.512682535
your conscience transfer to the next stage(or dissipate into nothingness if you're unworthy(corrupt))
but im just speculating. However real life isn't the real deal but what's after, and that's a fact.
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Anonymous ID: lSW881lj
8/10/2025, 12:53:30 PM No.512682756
>>512678379
Shut the fuck up streetshitter.
>>512679388
Lots of filthy pajeets on /pol/, they really belidve in reincarnation bullshit.
Anonymous ID: lSW881lj
8/10/2025, 12:55:24 PM No.512682833
>>512682535
Thing, afterlife is just copium. Death is death, game over.
Anonymous ID: ucjkZphzUnited States
8/10/2025, 12:56:26 PM No.512682874
>>512675802
the philippines, a place of sorcerers
chud ID: WKUuigdlUruguay
8/10/2025, 12:59:49 PM No.512682992
Highly Unimpressed Pepe
Highly Unimpressed Pepe
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>>512675506 (OP)
>What happens when we die /pol/

idk, better ask other mortals who never been to the other side
Anonymous ID: ElZEg/5nGermany
8/10/2025, 1:02:38 PM No.512683095
1585558001650
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>>512675506 (OP)
nobody knows anon, even the ones who died and came back they talk about multiple things (only darkness aka The Void, a light at the end of the tunnel, meething Death/some kind of God etc)
I hope there's nothing, aka endless sleep for eternity (the Void ), you will know what i am talking about if you were under a surgery
>>512676371
It's a terrifying if it's real, to be born again on this shithole again and again for hundreds if no thousands of lives until you "learn", but i hate this bullshit argument about learning, wtf do you learn if they wipe your memories every time ? is like playing a game again and again, then forget it and play it again from 0, but you don't what happen so you make almost the same choices again and again, fucking bullshit
Anonymous ID: A4uiLe0+Chile
8/10/2025, 1:03:40 PM No.512683129
>>512675506 (OP)
The one who killed you gets a social credit bonus
Anonymous ID: ZaEMWJ51United States
8/10/2025, 1:12:43 PM No.512683484
>>512676084
I've seen Hell, too. My experience was a vision of intense darkness, the light of God was vastly distant, and the feeling was intense fear, sadness, despair, traumatizing feeling. It reminded me of a painting I saw a long time ago where Hell was a stone pit where people couldn't climb up the slick walls to God's light far above. It made me realize that everything good in you and everything good in your life comes from God, if you feel merely normal at this moment, that's a tremendous amount of God's love. Everything you already like about yourself and value comes from God, and He'll increase those amazing qualities if you form a relationship with Him. My intuition at the time told me that vision wasn't because I was in danger of Hell or anything, but just to show me the nature of Hell and teach me more about God. It's amazing. It was also the most scared I've ever been, and I've been in life threatening situations before. Imagine intense sadness but you can't cry, or unbelievable fear but you can't shake or panic, it's like a sneeze that won't come.

TL,DR, focus on the good qualities you possess and increase them, God will come naturally.
Anonymous ID: ZhUBRil/United States
8/10/2025, 1:13:18 PM No.512683501
>>512675987
I think all the realms are here simultaneously. Upon enlightenment, existence is one long moment that seems like eternity.
Anonymous ID: ocljAx9cUnited States
8/10/2025, 1:15:40 PM No.512683605
>>512675506 (OP)
Are you a Mormon?
Anonymous ID: ltei9E57United States
8/10/2025, 1:18:36 PM No.512683718
>>512675815
This is true.
Anonymous ID: JPxyBLoACroatia
8/10/2025, 1:28:21 PM No.512684117
>>512675506 (OP)
You go to hell for being a 1pbtyid
Anonymous ID: 2oSha627United Kingdom
8/10/2025, 1:30:35 PM No.512684226
>>512675506 (OP)
Our family will miss us very much, unless they hate you
Anonymous ID: Xt5T1AtGAustralia
8/10/2025, 1:36:00 PM No.512684479
You guys are all fucking retarded. I hate you so much.
Replies: >>512684562 >>512685327 >>512685807 >>512687160
Anonymous ID: 2oSha627United Kingdom
8/10/2025, 1:37:57 PM No.512684562
>>512684479
Then don't go here then...?
Anonymous ID: /4UP5xF1Switzerland
8/10/2025, 1:55:43 PM No.512685327
>>512684479
You love to hate it.
Anonymous ID: 6h5VgsiKUnited States
8/10/2025, 1:59:38 PM No.512685524
God is the universe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvqzmoYuokU
Anonymous ID: k3Qpsl85
8/10/2025, 2:06:03 PM No.512685807
>>512684479
If crazy numbers I hate them more than you.
Anonymous ID: fIuP89uFNew Zealand
8/10/2025, 2:07:51 PM No.512685889
>>512675506 (OP)
>good works
Uh oh.
Replies: >>512685971 >>512691219
Anonymous ID: 2mYUjIsCUnited Kingdom
8/10/2025, 2:08:36 PM No.512685920
>>512676017
>Your mind just stop existing
when does anything else ever stop existing, the idea is stupid
Anonymous ID: 2mYUjIsCUnited Kingdom
8/10/2025, 2:09:30 PM No.512685971
1754023446728716
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>>512685889
>>good works
>Uh oh.
Anonymous ID: DZjoERafAustralia
8/10/2025, 2:10:38 PM No.512686021
>>512675506 (OP)
I choose the Telestial Kingdom. Sorcerers are cool.
Anonymous ID: 2oSha627United Kingdom
8/10/2025, 2:12:31 PM No.512686102
>>512675802
>Place, Japan
Please fuck off
Anonymous ID: VjTCZrstUnited States
8/10/2025, 2:16:10 PM No.512686265
1748967857731808
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md5: 46ad096732fa694fdb570afdd7dc81dc๐Ÿ”
>>512675506 (OP)
nothing
Anonymous ID: SNDp+nUZAustralia
8/10/2025, 2:17:37 PM No.512686338
>>512677781
And religions are totally legit and trustworthy...
F4T3 ID: gOzs0dL5United States
8/10/2025, 2:28:06 PM No.512686808
>>512675506 (OP)
You go back to 'the whole' for both an eternity and millisecond at the same time
>Which we can access parts of now
Then, are reborn again. Rinse. Repeat. Cool game huh?

What's the matter? Can't remember any of your past lives?
Replies: >>512690314
Anonymous ID: xgzMEx7HUnited States
8/10/2025, 2:30:11 PM No.512686909
>>512675506 (OP)
Idk but I imagine its going to probably be a pretty cool experience maybe really intense.
Anonymous ID: YMHZ2eGtIreland
8/10/2025, 2:30:54 PM No.512686946
1pbtid
Anonymous ID: ziTo3W5QGreece
8/10/2025, 2:31:28 PM No.512686975
>>512675506 (OP)
We go to a better place, or worse, or nothing. We'll know when we get there
Anonymous ID: 8qv+0CREUnited Kingdom
8/10/2025, 2:34:47 PM No.512687128
>>512675506 (OP)
>Baptism
>Endowments
>Temple Marriage
Let me guess, these things cost money, and the megachurch is willing to take that money in exchange for these holy services?
Replies: >>512691219 >>512696051
Anonymous ID: Zeu7DYYUUnited States
8/10/2025, 2:35:26 PM No.512687160
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md5: 2f0ffc5a732cf0c6d2977f3184364824๐Ÿ”
>>512684479
Sadly true.
Anonymous ID: LKr+OdG4United States
8/10/2025, 2:37:03 PM No.512687243
IMG_20250808_125853
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md5: 5f7a7f4cc3f926df00e5b74e7cac0bfb๐Ÿ”
>>512679388
Apocalypse of Peter is what happens when you pass. This is the end of history so be prepared.

>The vision of heaven is shorter than the depiction of hell, and described more fully in the Akhmim version. In heaven, people have pure milky white skin, curly hair, and are generally beautiful. The earth blooms with everlasting flowers and spices. People wear shiny clothes made of light, like the angels. Everyone sings in choral prayer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse_of_Peter
Replies: >>512687278 >>512689462 >>512689506
Anonymous ID: dB9A+TFKFinland
8/10/2025, 2:37:21 PM No.512687261
>>512675506 (OP)
A magical ghost living inside you fly into a magical jewish heaven where you will live all eternity with all the goody goodies.
Anonymous ID: LKr+OdG4United States
8/10/2025, 2:37:36 PM No.512687278
RebbeDrive-31
RebbeDrive-31
md5: fc6a2e9209fe5c5777e398e6db9a0ccc๐Ÿ”
>>512687243
Anonymous ID: QKUP0w2PUnited States
8/10/2025, 2:38:36 PM No.512687328
>>512681058
Yeah it really is sure our cities are shit but pretty much anywhere that isnโ€™t a city can be ok to getting a glimpse however very slim of heaven just imagine how nice it would be here if it wasnโ€™t for Jews and their protected pets
Anonymous ID: LKr+OdG4United States
8/10/2025, 2:39:43 PM No.512687381
1724525749804334 (1)
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md5: 720075a44c9d8bb0407c43ce0c3bc456๐Ÿ”
Actually, I don't know. I just like saying that to scare everybody
Anonymous ID: N3dOHahqGermany
8/10/2025, 2:41:46 PM No.512687479
>>512675506 (OP)
Your parents smile
Anonymous ID: LKr+OdG4United States
8/10/2025, 2:46:19 PM No.512687710
Look at all the scary stuff in Apocalypse of Peter. Pretty scary huh
Anonymous ID: djAR3luxUnited States
8/10/2025, 2:48:14 PM No.512687813
You will decompose and with all your life energy you will become a big beautiful tree. That will be cut down for paper and made into toilet paper.

>Imagine the smell.
Anonymous ID: jlCk02vlSweden
8/10/2025, 2:51:46 PM No.512688003
>>512675506 (OP)
We reincarnate until we achieve something to make us worthy of Elysium, Valhall, Folkvangr, Hel, Hades or any of the other afterlives.
Those that have strong aura but did not release their potential can comeback as draugrs, but because of their souls being split they are not fully themselves hence the name "draugrs"/"bedragare" or in english "fraud/deceiver".
Anonymous ID: LKr+OdG4United States
8/10/2025, 2:51:59 PM No.512688015
Are you getting anxiety yet? I'm getting anxiety from Apocalypse of Peter
Replies: >>512688500
Anonymous ID: xt/oBJYvAustria
8/10/2025, 2:53:15 PM No.512688077
>>512677476
>muttflag
>retarded christcuck
Many such cases!
Sad!
Anonymous ID: zfzTyiaYUnited States
8/10/2025, 2:53:56 PM No.512688112
1750138562009614
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md5: b7f1bc4f95ab00d4c5e5c2420040813a๐Ÿ”
>>512675506 (OP)
I think it genuinely comes from your belief in the sense that you manifest your afterlife. For instance if you believe what everyone else believes you go to that afterlife and join them but say you are agnostic and have a completely seperate idea you go to that afterlife completely alone. Its not anything evil I just think that what we define as God has made it this way. Then again, there may also be some valid arguements for reincarnation such as people having knowledge from past lives or those moments of deja vu.
Anonymous ID: 30hfaVdlUnited States
8/10/2025, 2:54:40 PM No.512688149
>>512675506 (OP)
No one actually knows, despite what anyone claims.
Anonymous ID: xyR00OeDCanada
8/10/2025, 2:55:30 PM No.512688193
signal-2025-08-09-11-20-41-617
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md5: 649610169540bd2917feea04b2c7ec6a๐Ÿ”
>>512675802
>sighs

The japan glazing never ends.....
Anonymous ID: e0u+u4I9
8/10/2025, 2:57:08 PM No.512688279
You will wake up. That's inevitable. Because conscious experience is all you will ever know.
Anonymous ID: 30hfaVdlUnited States
8/10/2025, 2:59:06 PM No.512688393
>>512676371
You were born in a shithole becuase everyone on earth is the same but separate consciousness
The you right now was always who you were meant to be
The guy across the world 5000 years ago and 5000 years later is also you at the same time and there was never any other possibility because he is also you
We all just are you
Replies: >>512688676
Anonymous ID: LKr+OdG4United States
8/10/2025, 3:00:10 PM No.512688444
529473199_122126686352912589_300956356369292014_n
529473199_122126686352912589_300956356369292014_n
md5: d9ff0b03ea4563d672b12a4986cd842f๐Ÿ”
Life will end after a number of years according to many Biblical sources. After 400 years the Messiah and all human life will die to return to primordial silence, and then after some time all souls will be resurrected to be judged, some to go on to a new earth.

https://www.biblestudytools.com/gnta/2-esdras/passage/?q=2+esdras+7:28-140#google_vignette
F4T3 ID: gOzs0dL5United States
8/10/2025, 3:01:18 PM No.512688500
>>512688015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvA48_mEUMA
Replies: >>512688675
Anonymous ID: LKr+OdG4United States
8/10/2025, 3:05:07 PM No.512688675
>>512688500
Play that on TV after an emergency broadcast
F4T3 ID: gOzs0dL5United States
8/10/2025, 3:05:08 PM No.512688676
>>512688393
I don't disagree with you. So, understanding what you understand. Perhaps a demonstration? Tell me something about me that no one but me would know? My biggest regret. And I know what it is. If you get it right, I will acknowledge it.

I want to 'test' you/me 8*|
Anonymous ID: Zeu7DYYUUnited States
8/10/2025, 3:08:01 PM No.512688824
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md5: 20819b495fef4ad4366e59ecb2b2b39f๐Ÿ”
>>512676371
I think reincarnation is having kids. That's the only way to live on.
Replies: >>512689097
Anonymous ID: GOU99GQeUnited States
8/10/2025, 3:08:29 PM No.512688847
>>512675610
Wait till i escape samsara
Anonymous ID: WFW+iHqRUnited States
8/10/2025, 3:09:45 PM No.512688917
1. Solipsism
>one entity in a game of memory wipe due to boredom
2. Reincarnation
>eternal life, boredom, roll the dice and see where yoy end up
3. Monothiesm
>hangout with Jesus for 1 million years until bored, reroll
4. Everquest
>hail the priest of discord but forget to hit enter

Its all pointless because of the fragility of the ego coupled with novelty seeking.

If you live forever you would have time to do everything and be immensely bored and wish to experience it all again anew. Thus we enter this self perpetuated cycle.
Replies: >>512689140
Anonymous ID: AU8jUz/wGermany
8/10/2025, 3:12:20 PM No.512689051
>>512676910
>everything you were before is erased
>everything
not really
but yea
Anonymous ID: xGB45llJUnited States
8/10/2025, 3:13:22 PM No.512689097
>>512688824
You kid is not you and never will be.
Replies: >>512691368
Anonymous ID: 2m4AyhE7United States
8/10/2025, 3:13:27 PM No.512689102
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md5: f99d67600009d2028595763cbc4afb9b๐Ÿ”
>>512675506 (OP)
Anonymous ID: GOU99GQeUnited States
8/10/2025, 3:13:28 PM No.512689103
When you die, you don't even know how dead you are. You're out, that's it.
Replies: >>512689265
F4T3 ID: gOzs0dL5United States
8/10/2025, 3:14:18 PM No.512689140
>>512688917
>If you live forever you would have time to do everything and be immensely bored and wish to experience it all again anew. Thus we enter this self perpetuated cycle
/Root/ = Life is a 'souls vacation' to expireance individuality. Though, still being connected.
Replies: >>512689749
Anonymous ID: h3uYCcSyArgentina
8/10/2025, 3:14:51 PM No.512689163
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>>512675506 (OP)
1pbtid
Anonymous ID: zGr25fttBrazil
8/10/2025, 3:15:11 PM No.512689175
You get isekaied to a fantasy world with anime elfs
Replies: >>512689307
Anonymous ID: 3xPkp8G8Australia
8/10/2025, 3:16:10 PM No.512689234
>>512675573
Keep that up and you're coming back as a streetshitter
Anonymous ID: 2m4AyhE7United States
8/10/2025, 3:16:51 PM No.512689265
>>512689103
>You're out, that's it.
Then what happens?
Replies: >>512689372 >>512689590
Anonymous ID: v32sObdnUnited States
8/10/2025, 3:17:17 PM No.512689281
supernatural-carry-on-dean-bobby
supernatural-carry-on-dean-bobby
md5: 5ed66fd35dbc41b646df2d451d2a9a20๐Ÿ”
>>512675506 (OP)
I'm good with the Telestial. It sounds like the version of Heaven from the end of Supernatural. Idyllic coyntry setting where everyone just gets to live and be happy. You wake up and every day is today, it doesn't feel like you've been there long, and nothing bad happens. Sun is shining, no work, no sadness, no pain. Just comfy.
Replies: >>512689415 >>512690435 >>512691177 >>512697594
Anonymous ID: 2m4AyhE7United States
8/10/2025, 3:17:49 PM No.512689307
>>512689175
Not me I'm going to the orc girl realm.
Anonymous ID: 3xPkp8G8Australia
8/10/2025, 3:18:00 PM No.512689316
>>512675892
Shitskins btfo
Anonymous ID: 2oSha627United Kingdom
8/10/2025, 3:19:03 PM No.512689372
>>512689265
Blacks loot your body
Replies: >>512689438
Anonymous ID: 2m4AyhE7United States
8/10/2025, 3:20:00 PM No.512689415
>>512689281
Its called stull.
And the devil is beating his wife there right now.
Replies: >>512689754
Anonymous ID: 2m4AyhE7United States
8/10/2025, 3:20:30 PM No.512689438
>>512689372
And then what happens?
Replies: >>512689473
Anonymous ID: 3xPkp8G8Australia
8/10/2025, 3:20:58 PM No.512689462
>>512687243
What about the niggers and jeets?
Anonymous ID: 2oSha627United Kingdom
8/10/2025, 3:21:08 PM No.512689473
>>512689438
Thats as far as I know
Anonymous ID: 2oSha627United Kingdom
8/10/2025, 3:21:48 PM No.512689506
>>512687243
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PidAAOdwa0M
Anonymous ID: dwsmJUBWUnited States
8/10/2025, 3:22:37 PM No.512689553
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Replies: >>512691413
Anonymous ID: T1LeYiyHPoland
8/10/2025, 3:22:47 PM No.512689566
ceasing to exist without any punishment is a reward in itself
Anonymous ID: GOU99GQeUnited States
8/10/2025, 3:23:10 PM No.512689590
>>512689265
At end of time, dark energy could kinda respawn the universe, possibly as a subatomic particle within another universe. There could be a time loop too. Nothing will be left eventually. Not matter or black holes.
Replies: >>512689977
Anonymous ID: nqWYb4lvUnited States
8/10/2025, 3:25:49 PM No.512689749
>>512689140

Even if you want to experience individuality. The death of the ego makes it pointless again.

This fragility has been ruminating in our minds forever and the truly sad thing is we probably just cease to exist.

It still fills me with dread and I know its all masturbation to avoid this fact.

From bhudda to hemisync its just pointless.

The eternal soul of a 160IQ mediation master has the same result as a street child in Sri Lanka.

We are just subroutine
Replies: >>512690602
Anonymous ID: v32sObdnUnited States
8/10/2025, 3:25:55 PM No.512689754
>>512689415
He's probably still mad about that fiddle thing.
Anonymous ID: GOU99GQeUnited States
8/10/2025, 3:26:28 PM No.512689784
Orbits decay with time. Atheist explanation requires a time loop.
Replies: >>512690041
Anonymous ID: 2oSha627United Kingdom
8/10/2025, 3:30:08 PM No.512689977
>>512689590
So you're saying, no more minorities? Hm - the end of the universe seems quite neat
Replies: >>512690529
Anonymous ID: LKr+OdG4United States
8/10/2025, 3:31:33 PM No.512690041
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>>512689784
I have told people in the past during my periods of prophecy and deja Vu back in my Topix days that the book of Revelation Is cyclical, so all of this could happen again and again, but I am unsure.

There will likely be a long period of experiencing eternal silence, resurrection after 400-1000 years depending on the source, followed by some souls entering a new Heavenly earth --- based on Biblical and Apocryphal sources
Anonymous ID: h+T2iYs0United States
8/10/2025, 3:34:25 PM No.512690203
>>512675506 (OP)
Everyone talking about being forced into nothingness/reincarnation...it's okay to have a little faith that because you have a psyche, that "shape" is hammered out of existence and is a shape for all time and can exist again even without a body. It depends on if anything exists after we die, but it's okay to say Humans are at an intelligence level where even asking these questions might mean we are "touched" in a certain way.

NDEs are probably cope, but it's okay to do research into them because they might be true. It's okay to logically assume that we're straight up not told what God is because it reveals this all to be a game and then cheapens our actions. I need to do more research into this being a prison planet though. The light being a soultrap worries be but might not be true.
Anonymous ID: 6yUfea2CGermany
8/10/2025, 3:35:10 PM No.512690241
>>512676017
you make it sounds like a pleasant way into non existence. the second death is more painful than your material bodys death.
Replies: >>512695042
Anonymous ID: 6yUfea2CGermany
8/10/2025, 3:35:46 PM No.512690277
>>512676371
reincarnation doesnt exist.
this life and then judgement.
Anonymous ID: 2mZZaPnCCanada
8/10/2025, 3:36:19 PM No.512690307
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>>512675506 (OP)
What is this mormon larkin chart autism
Anonymous ID: h+T2iYs0United States
8/10/2025, 3:36:25 PM No.512690314
>>512686808
To be fair, when we die we might rejoin an oversoul. Like waking up from a dream. And that's where we remember all our lives.
Replies: >>512690817
Anonymous ID: h+T2iYs0United States
8/10/2025, 3:38:25 PM No.512690435
>>512689281
This is a good heaven and I hope it exists as an option.
Anonymous ID: 6yUfea2CGermany
8/10/2025, 3:38:40 PM No.512690451
>>512676820
ever had that tought "man, I wish I couldve handled past expieriences with the knowledge I have now"?
thats what the tests are for. your real life and existence havent even started yet.
Anonymous ID: GOU99GQeUnited States
8/10/2025, 3:39:50 PM No.512690529
>>512689977
No, I'm afraid you britcucks might go to hell. You'll be strapped naked to the cuck chair while they force you into permanent reeducation camps. 1 minute irl is 2 years in the sim, maybe more. Sorry that hell is real for you britcucks.
Anonymous ID: 6yUfea2CGermany
8/10/2025, 3:40:48 PM No.512690584
>>512677806
>>512677938
modern science treats atoms as particles and not as electromagnetic charges. the entire physics field is a fraud.
F4T3 ID: gOzs0dL5United States
8/10/2025, 3:41:12 PM No.512690602
>>512689749
>the truly sad thing is we probably just cease to exist.
Negative. That is not what happens. We're reborn. Memories, wiped. However, it is possible to access those past memories and lives.

Have you ever had a dream that felt so real, was so vivid, that it had to be real before? It's hard for most people to even remember a dream. Most people have 3-10 dreams per night during REM sleep and remember, 0. There are techniques that that person has to personally work on, just to remember dreams.

Entire lives? Much harder. But possible. And you KNOW IT. I can tell. I can sense that.

The problem is, if you remembered a life that was one way, say a bad way, or bad things happened to you, would you carry on that karma and/or way of living? Would you hate someone, for some shit that happened, 100, 500, 1,000 years ago?

I think, that it's more about 'soul growth'. Each lifetime, a lesson to be learned. Or, once advanced enough, taught. As both you and I are doing, right meow ;^)

Someone, is reading this, and learning.
Replies: >>512690647 >>512691158 >>512691197
Anonymous ID: DP6Y0wS6United States
8/10/2025, 3:42:15 PM No.512690647
>>512690602
doesnt seem that likely to me no offense
Replies: >>512690890 >>512691262
F4T3 ID: gOzs0dL5United States
8/10/2025, 3:45:31 PM No.512690817
>>512690314
>Where we can remember all our lives
We can do that now. Including each others, since they're connected.

I look at it like this. If wholeness is perfection and lack of individuality. Then life, is a vacation from that wholeness, to individuality.
Anonymous ID: GOU99GQeUnited States
8/10/2025, 3:47:02 PM No.512690890
>>512690647
Try shrooms
Anonymous ID: 2mZZaPnCCanada
8/10/2025, 3:47:25 PM No.512690912
>>512677266
Every person has 10 ghosts, for that is how much the dead outnumber the living.
Anonymous ID: iUexi4M7United Kingdom
8/10/2025, 3:47:43 PM No.512690931
mormoncosmology
mormoncosmology
md5: f793dbf4c86fcaee2743d1a835ba67ce๐Ÿ”
>>512675506 (OP)
>>512675573
>>512675610
OP's infographic was created by an anti-mormon protestant boomer. It has several parts that are not in line with what mormons actually believe. Here's a better one
Replies: >>512691219
Anonymous ID: a5AEOHGJCroatia
8/10/2025, 3:50:26 PM No.512691093
>>512675506 (OP)
How does this picture make any sense when 2/3 of all humans alive aren't Christian?
Anonymous ID: GOU99GQeUnited States
8/10/2025, 3:51:41 PM No.512691158
>>512690602
Last verse in Roots Remain by Mastodon
"The end is not the end you see, it's just the recognition of a memory"
Anonymous ID: eBtCTaq2United States
8/10/2025, 3:51:59 PM No.512691177
>>512689281
If it is real I hope to crack a cold one with Dean as we talk about which blonde has the best tits.
Anonymous ID: kRzR30f9United States
8/10/2025, 3:52:24 PM No.512691197
>>512690602
The issue with this mentality is thst events your " flavor " is developed into a complete soul stew. Its entirely pointless for the individual experiencing it.

If YOU cease to exist for the greater good of an immeasurable self. Again it falls into checksum situation. The ego is destroyed and was ultimately.

We can assume that, if this were true. What happens after the soul is complete? Immediate destruction.

What is existence without suffering?

If you are not suffering, not wanting and grasping for air, you truly cease.

Immortality, infinity of a soul is pointless because once the ideal is attained it starts all over in oroborus.

This is met with " yeah maaan its cyclic "

If that is the case. The only real solution is that God's are immortal and in a constant state of self imposed amnesia to tolerate the state.

The alternative is some kid of individual judgement that again is pointless as the loss of the ego and self is obliteration.
Replies: >>512692519 >>512692774 >>512693473
Anonymous ID: 2mZZaPnCCanada
8/10/2025, 3:52:37 PM No.512691205
>>512676977
SAVE ME, BROWN CHRIGGER
Anonymous ID: iUexi4M7United Kingdom
8/10/2025, 3:52:48 PM No.512691219
>>512685889
>>512687128
See
>>512690931
F4T3 ID: gOzs0dL5United States
8/10/2025, 3:53:26 PM No.512691262
>>512690647
Than you're not as advanced as you think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WUaS_Ynd_M&pp=ygUPVGhpcmQgZXllIHNwaWVz

Explain to me, how remote viewing works? How can people, remember things from 100's of 1,000's of years ago, spot on? Or, locate anyone? Or be able to, using their own consciousness, stick their head in a file cabinet...from 2,500 miles away?

There is so much more to it, than you understand. But, you seem smurt enough, that if you really dedicated a piece of yourself into truly researching, you'd find that you were, very wrong.
Replies: >>512691440 >>512691537
Anonymous ID: loRtRvZuLatvia
8/10/2025, 3:54:17 PM No.512691312
>>512675506 (OP)
Oiter darkness looks badass. See you there.
Anonymous ID: HQI5mXSxUnited States
8/10/2025, 3:54:58 PM No.512691360
>>512676216
>>512676367
You've failed to prove why you are right.
Replies: >>512694756
Anonymous ID: Zeu7DYYUUnited States
8/10/2025, 3:55:10 PM No.512691368
1727633114271687
1727633114271687
md5: 38b981969554203bff6a7bd45d6d9ab5๐Ÿ”
>>512689097
That's the only way those genes keep on, and a significant chunk of them.
Replies: >>512693643
Anonymous ID: Zeu7DYYUUnited States
8/10/2025, 3:56:02 PM No.512691413
1746398703075714
1746398703075714
md5: 6c835e6f99e98d1e23c8ee88b6323c97๐Ÿ”
>>512689553
Anonymous ID: DP6Y0wS6United States
8/10/2025, 3:56:26 PM No.512691440
>>512691262
a lot of good points here but I dont think its that probably thats all
Anonymous ID: rvyD6iIAUnited Kingdom
8/10/2025, 3:57:13 PM No.512691480
>>512675506 (OP)
>pay jews money
>don't reproduce
>work like a goyslave
>get sent into the hellfire of sun
Replies: >>512691724
Anonymous ID: UQq2yHvfGreece
8/10/2025, 3:57:57 PM No.512691515
1738314155563405
1738314155563405
md5: 05838e7917c4557b25d17a92e3fbb6e8๐Ÿ”
>>512675506 (OP)
>What happens when we die /pol/
vaxx-status?
Replies: >>512691761
Anonymous ID: ORNzDDeyUnited States
8/10/2025, 3:58:09 PM No.512691528
>>512675506 (OP)
>if you go the broad or low way, there's no route to outer darkness
>if you go the straight and narrow way you're either on track to the celestial kingdom or outer darkness
anyone else think the spiritually ordained risk-reward for "heaven" is sus
Replies: >>512691612
Anonymous ID: nqWYb4lvUnited States
8/10/2025, 3:58:19 PM No.512691537
>>512691262

Anecdotes

Masturbatiin
Anonymous ID: OuttZYoFUnited States
8/10/2025, 3:58:33 PM No.512691546
>>512675506 (OP)
If you accepted Jesus died for our sins you go to heaven
If not you go to hell
>But that's not fair
You've had an entire lifetime to read the new testament and say "yeah I believe in Jesus" and be good for all eternity
Anonymous ID: 63KtLt8uUnited Kingdom
8/10/2025, 3:58:57 PM No.512691564
>>512675506 (OP)
Such questions are unknowable and meaningless. We can only meaningfully talk about things that exist in our shared reality, that being physical external reality. Questions relating to the mind are meaningless, since the mind is private to each individual and does not exist as part of the external world. So we cannot talk with others about such things.
Anonymous ID: HQI5mXSxUnited States
8/10/2025, 3:59:43 PM No.512691612
>>512691528
>once you're in the club you have to stay in the club or you'll be punished harder than if you never joined
Yeah it is a little suspicious.
Anonymous ID: +aPSqKO8United States
8/10/2025, 3:59:58 PM No.512691631
>>512675506 (OP)
heaven and hell are both here on earth, you just keep coming back
and the sun is our god
planets are eventually absorbed by the sun for fuel and new planets emerge on the periphery
Anonymous ID: QeJQCileUnited Kingdom
8/10/2025, 4:00:04 PM No.512691638
>>512675506 (OP)
We die...? What kind of dumbass question is that
Anonymous ID: 2mZZaPnCCanada
8/10/2025, 4:00:08 PM No.512691645
>>512677857
It's mormonism, retard. They just make up their own shit.
Anonymous ID: eBtCTaq2United States
8/10/2025, 4:01:40 PM No.512691724
>>512691480
Yup, God is evil. He put jews here to make everyone else suffer. If the gov wanted the education system would be popping out astro physics majors. Instead they realize that if they did have education make smart citizens they would immediately figure out how jewry is holding the world back. So instead of risking a country full of Bobby Fischer clones they would rather flood it will negative IQ animals who keep the populace terrified and dependant on gov. Tldr; it's fucked and I knew it was very young.
Replies: >>512692546
Anonymous ID: ZUedzxJFUnited States
8/10/2025, 4:01:48 PM No.512691737
>>512675506 (OP)
This feels like a weird "prisoner's dilemma".

So if you spread the word and they accept it, they go to highest afterlife.
But if they somehow go "yeah no, this doesn't feel right" they go straight to ultimate darkness hell.

BUT

If you just left them alone and never bothered them, they'd be perfectly fine.

Logically, the best way to approach this would be just not to spread the faith or ideology, as having a chance of someone just being a crook and going to second hell is better than telling them the way, having them flub up, and then go to super hell.

You could also just have people content with going from "current state" to "current state" with the middle pathway.

This means there is a NET NEGATIVE if you bring someone into your faith with this structure. Once you're in you HAVE TO coincide with it's beliefs forever or else you go to super hell.

What kind of barbaric bullshit is this?
It's a literal memetic virus.
Anonymous ID: GOU99GQeUnited States
8/10/2025, 4:02:07 PM No.512691761
>>512691515
Nigger schizo, smallpox was defeated through vaxxing. Smallpox is demonic
Replies: >>512692020 >>512692136
Anonymous ID: eBtCTaq2United States
8/10/2025, 4:06:29 PM No.512692020
>>512691761
Don't you mean smallpox is a jewish bioweapon used on Christians. This was done to weaken multiple countries at once and open them up for what Jews do best. Subversion and corrosion of a society from the inside by destroying the cohesion and culture of a people. The thing I never understood is these demons, spend their whole life stacking wealth just to horde it away from the economy like a Tolkien dragon. Literally rich just removing wealth from circulation does more damage than anything else.
Anonymous ID: 6yUfea2CGermany
8/10/2025, 4:08:32 PM No.512692136
>>512691761
with mRNA injection?
F4T3 ID: gOzs0dL5United States
8/10/2025, 4:14:56 PM No.512692519
>>512691197
>Its entirely pointless for the individual experiencing it.
I disagree
>If YOU cease to exist for the greater good of an immeasurable self. Again it falls into checksum situation. The ego is destroyed and was ultimately.
>Greater good
>Greater good
Lol. You think that perfection can get more perfect? Or needs work? That's kind of arrogant. Don't ya think? Can I tell you a secret? Good and evil have both been occuring, since the first divergence of the soul manifesting into the material realm. Which is what this is. Wars happen. People die. Animals die. Entire planets and solar systems are obliterated. And new ones, are born.

My opinion on God, is that God is a 'universal consciousness'. One that we're all a part of both individually, and as one. What we do, what we expireance, we being back to God. God, exporeances, through us. The good, bad, happy, sad, love, hate, lust, disgust...all of it. There is no greater good nor bad, when it comes to perfection. This is just part of the game/soul vacation.
>We can assume that, if this were true. What happens after the soul is complete? Immediate destruction.
Again, arrogant of you to ever think that a soul, can be destroyed. I think that our souls, are in a constant evolution seeking perfection.
>What is existence without suffering?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMLG54WrXQo&pp=ygUhTGVnZW5kIHdoYXQgaXMgbGlnaHQgd2l0aG91dCBkYXJr
Would you know what love is, if you did not know what hate was? Duality, it's a part of this ride bud.
>If you are not suffering, not wanting and grasping for air, you truly cease
When I'm getting some sweet sweet poon, I don't think that I'm suffering 8^D
When I'm doing things that I enjoy, I just went fishing yesterday, I don't think that I'm suffering.
>This is met with " yeah maaan its cyclic "
Until you master it...and as you say 'kill the ego' (but while in the material realm), yes, it is. Or, appears to be so.
Anonymous ID: 2mZZaPnCCanada
8/10/2025, 4:15:22 PM No.512692545
1753667614511876
1753667614511876
md5: d96eb59f437f6ce6fcfa97c405129b0d๐Ÿ”
>>512679852
>WE
Anonymous ID: rvyD6iIAUnited Kingdom
8/10/2025, 4:15:23 PM No.512692546
>>512691724
>a country full of Bobby Fischer clones
corrrrr. how based would that be
Anonymous ID: nI8d3b+L
8/10/2025, 4:15:27 PM No.512692549
>>512676122
Chuckled
F4T3 ID: gOzs0dL5United States
8/10/2025, 4:19:27 PM No.512692774
>>512691197
> that is the case. The only real solution is that God's are immortal and in a constant state of self imposed amnesia to tolerate the state.
That's not a 'solution'. Or even a question. That's a statement. One in which I concur with.
>The alternative is some kid of individual judgement that again is pointless as the loss of the ego and self is obliteration
Sure. But, what if you could disassociate your consciousness from your body, temporarily, back to the whole, then reattach it? Without destruction. You rejoin the whole, on command, not just at the end of the game.
Anonymous ID: BtJeC+BcUnited States
8/10/2025, 4:20:31 PM No.512692830
Screenshot 2025-08-10 101910
Screenshot 2025-08-10 101910
md5: 9981eab0f6f8c32d64b5c076453064a9๐Ÿ”
I tend to believe in reincarnation
I keep feeling like I was a powerful King in a previous life that ruled over a vast empire
Anonymous ID: vz+u/0NCUnited States
8/10/2025, 4:21:51 PM No.512692919
>>512675506 (OP)
Nothing. Donโ€™t worry, you wonโ€™t perceive anything because your senses will stop functioning
Anonymous ID: Tc31K4dTCroatia
8/10/2025, 4:25:35 PM No.512693147
>>512677267
Have you considered what we call "soul" might be plasma, which is conductive and makes continuation possible.
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Anonymous ID: BT8SNBAKUnited States
8/10/2025, 4:25:59 PM No.512693170
>>512676438
>that doesn't mean i believe that the demiurge really exists.
And that's exactly the kind of the thought the demiurge would expect
Anonymous ID: 5LVJep/EUnited States
8/10/2025, 4:26:25 PM No.512693195
>>512675506 (OP)
We do this shit all over again.
Replies: >>512695699
PsychologyAnon ID: FULV8izwNetherlands
8/10/2025, 4:30:40 PM No.512693473
>>512691197
No need for a god just a system that runs forever
Anonymous ID: xGB45llJUnited States
8/10/2025, 4:33:17 PM No.512693643
>>512691368
You have genes but that is not your soul.
let's be realistic here.
Anonymous ID: Tc31K4dTCroatia
8/10/2025, 4:33:43 PM No.512693672
>>512678034
You see that with that pic, what I see is a rabbi taking a kid to a quiet place, no parents in sight, and we know very well what most rabbis do to kids.
Anonymous ID: hrvYEGxkUnited States
8/10/2025, 4:35:23 PM No.512693776
>>512675506 (OP)
I'm headed for the outer darkness (oblivion) myself.
Anonymous ID: BXDMJQfk
8/10/2025, 4:35:30 PM No.512693780
>>512675815
/thread
Anonymous ID: hrvYEGxkUnited States
8/10/2025, 4:36:52 PM No.512693875
>>512675828
Fuck that.
I already fucked up royally the first time around, why the hell would they give me another chance?
Anonymous ID: Tc31K4dTCroatia
8/10/2025, 4:40:09 PM No.512694089
>>512679388
The Pleroma is the center of our galaxy where the creator beings live, we don't go there as part of the afterlife journey. They did believe everything is material, and I agree. I think "spiritual beings" and "souls" are plasmatic, thus material even if we can't see it with our eyes. Early gnostics weren't christian btw, they disguised as such to not get killed but they tried to preserve our old Euro lore.
Anonymous ID: kb7ywRl3United States
8/10/2025, 4:40:30 PM No.512694110
1754836673394
1754836673394
md5: 550cbbf231fa326ed69f131721a517ce๐Ÿ”
npcs get cycled to the next creation, or are simply unexisted
players return to the source and use the data from their lives to help the gods correct the subsequent creations
players volunteer, npcs dont. they just wake up, no memory whatsoever of their primordial identity or any existance, whereas players start with a reserve cache, a hidden cache. both have the first consciousness drop around age 5, players get the soul drop usually 20-35, they become entirely aware of the creation and their goals, typically have heightened awareness and can see the hand moving on the backend. death is no different than falling asleep, but just prior an enzyme activates and activates your body's natural dmt, npcs glimpse the existential epiphany where the meaning of their existsnce is made clear to them before they black out.
if youre a christcuck, you get to listen to rihanna on a loop before youre put out of your misery and reborn to do it all over again until you finally notice jews jewed you.
Anonymous ID: FULV8izwNetherlands
8/10/2025, 4:41:18 PM No.512694157
>>512676768
You might because within the DMT realm your thoughts can materialize objects and make you teleport etc. if death is even a tad similar you can probably just imagine teleporting away
Replies: >>512694631
Anonymous ID: WQ6t+BZeGermany
8/10/2025, 4:45:22 PM No.512694421
>>512693147
>Have you considered what we call "soul" might be plasma
no its an electric current, in this universe electric currents power everything.
this universe is 99.99% filled with plasma and the medium that the electric current travels through. thats also how stars and galaxys are created.
and before you ask, no, nobody knows where the electric current comes from.
Anonymous ID: WQ6t+BZeGermany
8/10/2025, 4:48:23 PM No.512694631
>>512694157
if you had control over it, would you come back as a deformed jeet?
Anonymous ID: kb7ywRl3United States
8/10/2025, 4:48:25 PM No.512694635
1754837108934
1754837108934
md5: 42a70ea7e058b44b358409bd90f77c08๐Ÿ”
>>512676768
if reincarnation in the same cycle is a thing, and i dont think it is, christians might be able to work their way up to being reborn as fly on the eyeball africans, maybe even one of their own descendants.
those fly on the eyeball africans prechristianity have greater spiritual awareness than christians do, which is sad because theyre out there having cannibal wars and shit. so great is the damage to the soul that christianity and really all of abrahamism imposes.
Anonymous ID: ru6f2PdaUnited Kingdom
8/10/2025, 4:50:20 PM No.512694756
1754837420949634.jpg
1754837420949634.jpg
md5: fa1884d4ed95b0de5e79858c71ae1085๐Ÿ”
>>512691360
There is no unicorn until you produce it, or conclusive proof of one.

There is no afterlife until you produce it, or conclusive proof of one.

"Trust me bro!" ~Bible
is not proof, you spic!
Replies: >>512695041 >>512697158
Anonymous ID: N7Nom+jQMexico
8/10/2025, 4:51:27 PM No.512694836
>>512677618
you dumb turk roach why would you bring up LLMs if you don't even know how they work
Replies: >>512695448
Anonymous ID: UwSrbs04Netherlands
8/10/2025, 4:52:55 PM No.512694961
>>512675506 (OP)
Browns and niggers will fuck up the world we build.
Anonymous ID: 6yUfea2CGermany
8/10/2025, 4:54:06 PM No.512695041
>>512694756
every fucking religion has an underworld, almost as if humanity was concretely secure in the knowledge that there comes something after death.
why? because existence would be an absolute waste otherwise. there wouldnt be a point for it.
Anonymous ID: ru6f2PdaUnited Kingdom
8/10/2025, 4:54:07 PM No.512695042
1737906545751246
1737906545751246
md5: e8ed60aaa7a9fa3c8860653f1f30183b๐Ÿ”
>>512690241
Spic.
Replies: >>512695120
Anonymous ID: 6yUfea2CGermany
8/10/2025, 4:55:17 PM No.512695120
>>512695042
youre a bot.
Anonymous ID: xNWmEVOlUnited States
8/10/2025, 4:57:42 PM No.512695283
>>512675506 (OP)
>What happens when we die
I don't know. Neither does anyone else. I do believe this isn't the base reality and there is something the other side. But what exactly I don't know.
Anonymous ID: WQ6t+BZeGermany
8/10/2025, 5:00:17 PM No.512695448
>>512694836
learn to read shitskin
Anonymous ID: pEtk7SG+United States
8/10/2025, 5:01:55 PM No.512695544
>>512676053
what created the universe, genius-anon?
Replies: >>512695704
Anonymous ID: mcJTSb0CUnited States
8/10/2025, 5:03:58 PM No.512695699
>>512693195
Eternal return
It's a very comforting philosophy

I also like the idea of reincarnation on earth, but my biggest concern, like others have pointed out already, would be getting reincarnated as a jeet or something. If I could be guaranteed to reincarnate as a white man forever, that'd be a pretty ideal eternal existence if you ask me.
Replies: >>512696872
Anonymous ID: WQ6t+BZeGermany
8/10/2025, 5:04:02 PM No.512695704
>>512695544
the universe has no beginning and no end.
Replies: >>512695771
Anonymous ID: 6yUfea2CGermany
8/10/2025, 5:05:12 PM No.512695771
>>512695704
science says otherwise. there is a definite beginning and an end in both scientific and spiritual understanding.
Replies: >>512695947 >>512696027
Anonymous ID: TFnTd6tZUnited States
8/10/2025, 5:05:45 PM No.512695810
>>512675719
>NOOOO, NOT MY HECKING DESERT RELIGION
Bro you either came from a desert or apefrica. You choose.
Anonymous ID: TFnTd6tZUnited States
8/10/2025, 5:07:52 PM No.512695947
>>512695771
Cycles have repeated beginning and ending
Replies: >>512696034
Anonymous ID: MUX9SA1eUnited States
8/10/2025, 5:08:19 PM No.512695980
>>512675506 (OP)
God asks if you'll sacrifice your happiness to come back to this time and fight globohomo now that you know. He let's you keep trying because the Almighty corrects all imbalances
Anonymous ID: WQ6t+BZeGermany
8/10/2025, 5:09:07 PM No.512696027
>>512695771
mainstream jew science is full of bullshit
Replies: >>512696084
Anonymous ID: 6yUfea2CGermany
8/10/2025, 5:09:15 PM No.512696034
>>512695947
>hindu garbage
Replies: >>512696749
Anonymous ID: MUX9SA1eUnited States
8/10/2025, 5:09:35 PM No.512696051
>>512687128
Joseph Smith invented oneof the first bag pulls with his wildcat bank
Anonymous ID: 6yUfea2CGermany
8/10/2025, 5:10:06 PM No.512696084
>>512696027
but we can both agree that ones own life has a clear beginning and a clear end, right?
Anonymous ID: MUX9SA1eUnited States
8/10/2025, 5:11:28 PM No.512696169
>>512676955
Even Socrates spoke of Reincarnation smoothbrain
Anonymous ID: 2RXX0/G+United States
8/10/2025, 5:14:49 PM No.512696365
>>512676017
>billions of years of nothing
>mine starts existing

Uh oh stinky!
Anonymous ID: eRU/I4t0Canada
8/10/2025, 5:15:17 PM No.512696397
>>512676269
Jung is a subversive faggot. Read Guรฉnon
Anonymous ID: 2RXX0/G+United States
8/10/2025, 5:16:06 PM No.512696449
>>512676119
So Mara
Anonymous ID: 2RXX0/G+United States
8/10/2025, 5:16:59 PM No.512696512
>>512676489
Yeah but if you achieve CHIM you could win the crusades
Anonymous ID: eRU/I4t0Canada
8/10/2025, 5:17:31 PM No.512696552
>>512676768
Lol, the whole point of Tibetan Buddhism is to do just that
Anonymous ID: eRU/I4t0Canada
8/10/2025, 5:20:55 PM No.512696749
>>512696034
And Greek, and Roman, and Norse, as well as pretty much every pre-abrahamic culture
Replies: >>512696883
Anonymous ID: f6L5tWDdUnited States
8/10/2025, 5:21:43 PM No.512696812
>>512676675
The universe abides by physics yet it's random. Contradiction logic
Anonymous ID: TFnTd6tZUnited States
8/10/2025, 5:22:50 PM No.512696872
>>512695699
>guaranteed to reincarnate as a white man forever, that'd be a pretty ideal eternal existence if you ask me
Increase white/brown ratio for better odds. Cutting out the dark semite felatio and virtue signaling is a start.
Anonymous ID: 6yUfea2CGermany
8/10/2025, 5:22:59 PM No.512696883
>>512696749
greek, roman and nordic speak about an underworld, not reincarnation, jeet.
Replies: >>512696949
Anonymous ID: f6L5tWDdUnited States
8/10/2025, 5:23:04 PM No.512696886
>>512677267
Yes quantum wave pattern that has a inverse converse or expansion
Anonymous ID: eRU/I4t0Canada
8/10/2025, 5:24:01 PM No.512696949
>>512696883
They spoke of cycles you illiterate faggot
Replies: >>512696978
Anonymous ID: 6yUfea2CGermany
8/10/2025, 5:24:35 PM No.512696978
>>512696949
no they dont
Replies: >>512697107 >>512697191
Anonymous ID: TFnTd6tZUnited States
8/10/2025, 5:25:24 PM No.512697037
>>512677267
But don't you feel like someone?
Anonymous ID: eRU/I4t0Canada
8/10/2025, 5:26:34 PM No.512697107
>>512696978
Yes they do retard. Golden Age, Silver Age etc.
Replies: >>512697216
Anonymous ID: TGzTJqAbUnited States
8/10/2025, 5:27:41 PM No.512697158
>>512694756
>there is no way to fly until you do it!
>t. Dioceses

Not yet
Anonymous ID: eRU/I4t0Canada
8/10/2025, 5:28:14 PM No.512697191
hercules_buddha
hercules_buddha
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>>512696978
Also, there was Greco Buddhism so the idea of reincarnation wasn't alien to the Greek world. Here's a picture of Hercules watching over the Buddha you Miss informed kraut
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Anonymous ID: 6yUfea2CGermany
8/10/2025, 5:28:47 PM No.512697216
>>512697107
thats in terms of civilization and empires. hindus have cosmic cycles with non stop reincarnation which is nothing like the roman or greek understanding of life after death.
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Anonymous ID: 6yUfea2CGermany
8/10/2025, 5:30:39 PM No.512697313
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>>512697191
>hindus just gobble up all teachings into one mess of a spiritual dumpster fire
checks out
greeks had hades as a well defined underworld after death
Anonymous ID: eRU/I4t0Canada
8/10/2025, 5:31:40 PM No.512697379
>>512697216
It wasn't historical it was cosmological. And I just showed you a picture of a statue with Hercules and Buddha. There was a concept of reincarnation in at least some strains of Greek thought
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Anonymous ID: 6yUfea2CGermany
8/10/2025, 5:32:51 PM No.512697456
>>512697379
>And I just showed you a picture of a statue with Hercules and Buddha.
I can draw a picture of Hitler and Buddha. doesnt mean shit.
Anonymous ID: ET/3WRVhUnited States
8/10/2025, 5:34:55 PM No.512697594
>>512689281
I wish it were real but as we all know the world is far too cruel to give us peace either in nothing or some sort of heaven.