>>512704046 (OP)
chinks still mad they spent 100 years learning dogfighting to get blown out of the air by unmanned roombas filled with grenades.

>>512704046 (OP)
Im the last to hype up overpriced mutt crap, but what have chinks produced that wasn't either shit or never battle tested?

>>512704046 (OP)
She talks like a boss NPC before you win.
might go play some Command n conquer generals now

>>512704046 (OP)
who isn't? complete waste of tax payer dollars

>>512704370
nigger what?

Changs jets just got 4 of the longest ranged, "networked" air-2-air kills in history against the streetshitters

>>512704046 (OP)
The VSTOL variant can't even lift with full fuel tanks and full bomb load. What good is it?

>>512704875
Only one raphale was confirmed to be downed by pakipoo AA afaik, out of dozens the poopmen launched

>>512705632

0 actually.

And keep in mind Muslims just make up this lie every time a war starts now.

Iranians did the same with Israel and claimed they shot down 123213 F-35.

It means nothing unless there is proof (= dead pilots).

>>512704046 (OP)
Wanna bet that that shit works, while the americant version fails?

>>512704462
It's 100% a Chinese guy running the account. Women don't care about autistic jet fighter stats and they never advocate for their own side as hard as this account does

>>512705749
Wrong poopjeet

https://www.reuters.com/world/pakistans-chinese-made-jet-brought-down-two-indian-fighter-aircraft-us-officials-2025-05-08/

>>512704046 (OP)
FAILED WEAPONS PROCUREMENT
>failed weapons procurement

>>512704046 (OP)
>chinese mock this
>chinese mock that
why are they keep stealing technology?

>>512705749
I think at least one was confirmed to be shot down, no evidence of more iirc
Ofc chinks and pakis claimed 4- and jeets claimed 0 but all three are massive liars anyway so I trust neither

>>512706079
There is no proof in your link

>G.I go home
>me no rove you rong time
>(Chink music plays)

>>512706170

Confrimed by who? There is no proof of any Rafale being shot down. All news links are just hearsay (circulatory rumours).
Anyway not that it matters, from here on it's going to be the strategy anyway to just claim you shot down infinite amount of enemy planes and try to win the narrative war.

>>512706159
>why are they keep stealing technology?
and why is it always better?

>>512704130
Their jets have more air to air kills than the F35 lmfao

>>512704046 (OP)
She's right.
The Navy and the Air Force has always used different aircraft. It was completely retarded to run the A, B and C variants as a singe project on a single airframe.

>>512704046 (OP)
The J-35 looks the way it does because it's more visible and because China still believes dogfighting will exist in future near-peer conflicts.

Why be mad at ccp for this? Even if they sent shit alloys its Admirable in words of castro jr their savvy nature and less treason towards their own vs us!

The opponents are formidable, intelligent and capable, only traitors underestimated them and facilitated them directly and indirectly by crippling us here. That is the difference btw those who Repect ccp capabilities but are not traitors, and those like castro jr and his friends in US who respect ccp and aid them.

Simple as, I would hang traitors here if I was the Military, f35 issue is Nothing, Nothing compared to the damage and internal sabotage done in North America and Europe on all fronts, Nothing.

>>512706230
US officials said “high confidence”

Of course the Indians will deny it lol

>>512706455
The J-10 has more air to air kills than the F35 kek

>>512706539
You can't even write a coherent sentence in English

>>512704046 (OP)
They're always doing this thing where they want a fighter jet that does everything and instead get a fighter jet that does nothing. Different jets for different purposes. Sure try to re-use parts between them to keep logistics down, but don't demand perfection.

The whole military structure is dumb. We brag to everyone about "combined arms" but still organize along Navy/Army/Air Force lines as though planes have nothing to do with infantry have nothing to do with boats.

>>512706403
thats a japanese crab peeling machine
kek

>>512706585

Yes the US gave Pakistan F-16 and supply them with weapons.
That's no proof of having downed anything retard.


Do you believe Iran downed F-35s?

>>512706650
automation is the future
have some kimbap

I thought all F-35 were STOVL.

>>512706705
On this, I’ll believe US officials over Indian ones 100% of the time

>>512706426
0 is more than 0?

>>512706604
The P-38 has more than either. Does that mean we should cancel all modern programs and find P-38 tooling to start cranking those out instead?

Our people here let their children be inctinated by treasonous globalist commies in schools... ccp doesn't, not even on our soil!

While our people smiled and preached inclusivity as that was used as an excuse to create idiots vs educate ccp parents got together and Forced the school to change policy for their Children.
Their children are not permitted to go to mental health circles in the evening with rainbow flags, and globalist idiot emotional rollercoaster... they go to Robotic, Music, Science and Thrive.

Same environment, same activity avelability, no parent supervision while Boarding kn evnings mostnof the time so all susceptible to same things... And yet, ccp children continuely make better choice vs ours, the teachers don't pray on them for their bullshit activities and offer Intellectual variety instead.

And, ccp parents are Involved, all parents shoe up to socialize and network, our parents bend over and pretend to be inclusive carrying... ccp parents are Involved and Concentrated, Alert and Protective, they actually Educate their children and monitor everything appropriately and step in when required.

We are done.

>>512706615
And yet, I am correct anyway.

You know who writes better? Newsome and Castro jr., they will be more pleasant to read and no doubt Convenient.

>>512706732
nice to see the korean cash shop is now part of their daily meal

>>512707066
lol

You have No Idea how bad things really are!

>>512705632
>>512705749
Lmao the jeet cope. We have pictures of three different crash sites all with raffale engines. And we have a crash site with an Su-27/30 ejection seat nearby.

This is disaster is why you do NOT announce your aerial attacks BEFORE you make them. Seriously, pajeets youre supposed to be good at scamming, yet you openly announce your attacks????

>>512706947
>>512706966
The J-10 has like 5 kills in modern air combat against advanced fighter jets. If the p-38 shot down Rafale fighter jets then yeah. But as it stands the J-10 has a much better track record than the F35. Quit coping. In fact, the F35's only kills are itself lmao

>>512704046 (OP)
She’s right. Trying to mesh three extremely different requirements into one single model of plane was an absolutely retarded idea.
>replace airframes at a 1:3 ratio
>with an airframe with 1/3 the readiness rate
>effectively downsizes the US aerial strike capability by a factor of 9
>still have to use standoff munitions that could have been used by the old systems
The whole thing was just one giant clusterfuck.

>>512706455
I think ccp is well aware what future fighting entails, on all fronts! Even their decoys aka jets to pacefy the levels of your likes and trick are better than ours now.

Every front they are operating is winning, or did you think 5 and then 15K experts sent to the Russian front to observe were an accident! Their projects are layered and highly diversified, especially the weapons grade and infiltration kind, we fall behind snd that is a Fact.

You'd make an excellent government service worker, lack of comprehension and much hubris, ripe to serve all the way down.

>>512704046 (OP)
Chinese jets fall fro the sky on a daily basis and you wouldn’t hear about it.
One American jet has an emergency landing and chinks feel superior.

>>512707400
Delusional

>>512705760
is crab ok?

>>512707337
What’s funny is cranking out several hundred thousand P-38s instead of F-35s would be VASTLY more suited to our current threat regime. Easy as pie to counter the large drone threat with masses of P-38.

>>512706966
>would it be better to cancel the F-35 and mass produce P-38s?
It actually would be yes. They are optimal craft for targeting and countering slow flying large drones. You know, the kind coming in the thousands every day in the Ukraine theatre. They also fly low and slow, precisely as needed for the CAS raids we see in Ukraine. They also provide significantly greater loiter time, allowing for more precise targeting and interdiction in top of orders of magnitude greater number.

Yeah the P-38 is clearly a superior choice given the current threat environment.

>>512706159
they're trying to bait someone to expose information through their hubris. do you not know how war thunder works?

>>512704046 (OP)
chang is 100% correct
the VTOL should have been a separate plane
politics ruined it

>>512707696
Probably cheaper too

>>512707159

Ah yes. Somehow India lost planes but no pilots. And Pakistan lost pilots but no planes.

Here is a link to the funeral for Pakistani pilots:
https://x.com/uncensorednews9/status/1921758340658450642

And then theres actual video proof that India hit targets but Pakistan hasn't hit anything in India:
India hits Kirana hills (nuclear arms storage facility of Pakistan):
https://files.catbox.moe/uvg4sy.mp4

Compilation of attacks on Pakistani Airbases:
https://files.catbox.moe/5tobvn.mp4

Air Base 1:
https://files.catbox.moe/qpz1u7.mp4

Air Base 2:
https://files.catbox.moe/g4u3pq.mp4

Air Base 3:
https://files.catbox.moe/aykm4f.mp4

Apparently 40 people died from this one:
https://files.catbox.moe/kbmwp4.mp4
Anyway you can believe what you want , whats interesting is the Propaganda that came from Iran and Pakistan was 1:1 the SAME. It's a muslim strategy to claim you are winning (and captured enemy females is one of the main themes it seems).
Pakistan claimed to have downed a Rafale and captured a female pilot:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/new-updates/shivani-singh-iafs-rafale-pilot-captured-by-pakistan-heres-the-truth/articleshow/121049735.cms?from=mdr

Iran claimed to have downed a F35 and captured a female pilot:
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/chilean-navy-pilot-falsely-said-online-be-an-israeli-pilot-captured-iran-2025-06-23/


Iran claims it shot down F35
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/f-35-beware-american-stealth-fighter-has-been-shot-down-and-an-innovative-method-was-used-to-lock-on-to-the-advanced-combat-jet/articleshow/121901594.cms?from=mdr

Pakistan claims it shot down Rafales
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/5/14/did-pakistan-shoot-down-five-indian-fighter-jets-what-we-know
Muslims are just awful at warfare and notorious liars

>>512707753
saaar

>>512704130
Cope amerifag

>>512707399
>well aware of the challenges of future fights
So far not really. They haven’t invested heavily in cope cages. Their drones still use wireless. They aren’t mass issuing shotguns. And they haven’t learned that extremely small unit tactics (1-2 guys tops) is the path forward on the empty battlefield.

North Korea has done a lot more learning, and China WOULD learn if they actually sent 5k troops to the front. Yes, soldiers will die, but this will reinforce that the path to success lies in adjusting their doctrine.

>>512707753
You are indian

>>512707966
call him hijra, kek

>>512704046 (OP)
>listening to some literal who twitter chink (who looks like a fag) that i could snap in half with one hand
i don't think i will

>>512707743
Well we say that, but I’m sure our MIC will find a way to charge us 10x what it actually costs them to make.

>>512707753
Ahhh, jeet cope. Notice how it is ALL about others? And notice how it deflects from the point?
>no pilots lost
And? Ejection seats are a thing and we found used ones at the site of the Su-30 crash. Still need to explain the wreckage of four separate planes. 3 with rafale engines. What did the Pakis hijack a few rafales and crash them?
>iran, Muslims lie
And Indians are known for that specific characteristic. Remember when they claimed to have killed 500 PLA soldiers in hand to hand combat in 2020, only for video to be released showing hundreds of killed or captured Indian soldiers?

>>512704046 (OP)
Kek, keep being all bark & no bite, timid sewage eating chinks.

>>512705632
>>512705749
absolutely pathetic shit-eating jeet cope straight out of /k/

>>512704046 (OP)
>Bugmen have to put second engine on their stolen Western technology because they replace parts with styrofoam and corncobs then use steel made from sand so they know they will fail

>>512708374

>>512708585
What's that first type of Cheese called? Kek retard mutt posting the edited version

>>512706159
>"stealing technology"
More like buying it. Guess which greatest American ally is selling it to them?

>>512707337
>The J-10 has like 5 kills
The F-15 has 104.
India claims to have shot down more than one J-10, no one claims to have ever shot down an F-15.

>>512708585
>Natural
kek

>>512704875
>celebrating victory against pajeets
kek, thats fucking retarded

>>512708585
>>512708374
A billion dollars of my tax money has gone to fund this anti china propaganda. And I’m furious. THIS is the best you can do?!? For gods sake hire some COMPETENT people!!

>>512708750
Thanks a lot, Israel! You're really grateful for those trillions of our tax dollars spent and tens of thousands of our lives lost!

>>512706159
Stealing what?
ppt and CGIs?

China is literally technologically more advanced than the West now.

>>512708779
Ummmm, that’s a bald faced lie. Iraq claimed that multiple times https://theaviationgeekclub.com/during-operation-desert-storm-iraf-mig-25s-claimed-to-have-shot-down-a-usaf-f-15c-and-a-bedouin-smuggler-confirmed-the-kill/amp/

Yemen actually downed a F-15 (we suspect SAM but Yemen never officially announced how they did it).

>>512708779
Most of those are Israel shooting down drones just fyi lmao

>>512708790
The best part about it is that these Jews pushing this propaganda have been running into China's arms behind our back for decades.
>then why would they want us to fight China?
Because it would be a great opportunity to murder Goyim overseas in yet another quagmire, much like how the "Ukrainian war" benefits mostly Russia while Western nations are extorted and going broke for Ukraine.

>>512708918
Mutts will seethe

Does it have a ramp chang? Chinese steel is pure absolute shit lmfao. You're literally just the soviet union reincarnated thanks to jews except even more inferior.

>>512706455
The j-35 is made to shit anti-air missile 250 km>>512706539
away from the target

>>512708995
Pic related, (You)

>>512704046 (OP)
opinion discarded. i appreciate their concerns though. its a good thing they're looking out for us. im sure they know what they're doing.

because chinks would have jets without the west.

>>512708585

>>512708935
I stand corrected.

The former regime in Iraq did claim to have shot down an F-15. They didn't, but they claimed it.

I have no idea what you're talking about Yemen shot one down but as of about 38 seconds ago America has lost a grand total of 0 F-15s.

>>512708939
Virtually all of those are from before Drones were a thing.

>>512705862
Many of those posts are chink prisoners who post for reduced sentences.

>>512708977
The fact that a single nation can produce and fly three seperate tailless fighter prototypes at the same time is insane.
Reminds me of better times, before the jews returned and deindustrialized our economy and made gender studies the most popular major.

Personally, I like the J-50 the best so far in terms of shape and design. The J-36 looks like a very big and heavy bird and not as nimble.

>>512707903
Can't even post your real countries flag lmfao

>>512709382

>>512706170
1 rafaele wasnt shot down, it was system error and it didnt work. Meanwhile pakis lost 6 aircrafts, 12 military bases was bombed. Its shown clear as day and they continue to cope.

>>512709355
Why not... we did. Just didn't publicise it.
Competing designs is pretty normal.

>>512709355
>>512708918
The third one is photoshop of the J36. But a congressman did say that China has 3 6th gens flying around already. Anyways, they already have loyal wigmen and they have like at least 3-4 types of loyal wingmen and also the J-20S. Its only a few weeks from the parade where they will show it off.

>>512709750
>>512708977
Knew the cope was incoming

NATO has lost more F-35's in the last four years than Russia has Su-57's. Only one of them is at war. That should tell you enough.

The Rafael's from India all towed decoy jammer drones. Paki's shot down decoy drones they locked onto. Not one convincing piece of footage from any wreck shows anything more than a fucking drone.

On the other hand, India has entire air-to-air chink missiles that were launched by Paki's that failed to detonate or lock onto anything.

>>512709856
saaaaar

>>512709750
I believe only this photo is a PS, the others are real, even a video exist of that one side shot of the new plane.
But yeah, could be a loyal wingman drone and not a manned fighter.

>>512704046 (OP)
>caring about chink insectoid opinions
Never have, never will

>>512709956

>>512704046 (OP)
From the beginning, the F35 was just a money-making project. It was never intended for a real war. All the test pilots said the F35 was inferior to its predecessors.

>>512704046 (OP)
China is an American colony that exists for us to export our pollution.
Their opinions mean nothing

>>512710292
That was true until xi came to power, restricted your investments, and threatened corruption with the death penalty. They are the next empire chosen by the capital. Holland, UK, USA, China. Every empire has financed its successor. Capitalism knows no loyalty.

>>512709973
The front is nearly idential to the J-36, so unless its pretty much a minature/drone version of the J-36 where it will share parts. Its PS. You can see how 1:1 it looks like with the J-36, as it has the two side radar panels, same air intakes.
>>512709800
I literally know more about the PLA than you lmfao. If the Sino military watchers are calling it photoshop and have insider knowledge are calling it PS, then, its likely photoshop.
Like I said they already got like 3-4 loyal wingmen debuting on September 3rd. Some people say its probably picrel but we just dont know for sure. Its really hard to tell this on this third 6th gen/drone. Until there is a video and not photos, im pretty 50/50 on it.
Anyways, they (Sino military rumors) are saying that the J-XX is performing better than expected in the early tests and so it might speed up the timeline on its completion.

>Zhao
China, like Mexico, is a country against whom the United States will fight a war.. without any use of air or sea transport. think about that.

>>512704046 (OP)
The ccp knows about dei and yet never mentions it, I wonder why they always leave it out - how strange.

>>512710667
>I literally know more about the PLA than you lmfao
Oh yeah what level clearance do you have? What shop do you work in? Dumbfuck kek
>Believing "sino military watchers"
Ngmi

>>512711095
Its true, were gonna see the H-20 next year, screen cap this.

>>512706403
the final solution to the crab question

>>512711204
Answer my questions retard. You get your information from YouTubers don't you lmao

>>512711379
>Youtubers
Nope.

>>512711026
Do you expect them to prevent their competitors from making mistakes?

>>512708918
>some paper drones
>Meanwhile
The Comac C919 (Chinese: 中國商飛 C919 / 中国商飞 C919) is, after the Comac C909[8] (until 2009: ACAC ARJ21), the first passenger aircraft to be developed entirely in the People's Republic of China, where it has been built by the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (Comac) consortium since 2015.[1] A significant proportion of the aircraft consists of foreign components. [9] The aircraft was certified for regular flight operations at the end of September 2022, and the first delivery took place on December 9, 2022.[10][11] On May 28, 2023, the C919 completed its first scheduled flight between Shanghai and Beijing, nine years behind schedule.[12][13]

>>512711420
Might as well be, my point is you certainly don't know more about the PLA than me, in fact what you do know is the tip of the iceberg because it's all unclass stuff. Just stop trying to sound so authoritative when you're an ignorant retard in actuality lmao

>>512711924
You havnt said a single new thing. Go ahead tell me something new. You bore me you nigger.

>>512711999
No :) iykyk. Keep consuming unclass slop and believing you're very smart and have great insights though

>>512708790
buy Bill Gates lab meat and carbon butter, is so much better and healthy
>we tested it on some rats for 2 weeks, do not trust science?

>>512712065
Nice projection.

>>512712121
Whatever cope you need dude

>>512712170
You might as well put on a memeflag since it suits you better.

>>512704046 (OP)
Until China has the balls to go for Taiwan, they're just a fat kid on the playground talking shit.

>>512706732
>still have to manually put ingredients into this highly complex machine
>still have to brush this shit before manually putting it in, just so the machine can cut it
this is embarrassing, but expected
I used to work logistic robotics, and my company scammed some of the largest warehouse corporations with stuff like this.
>look, this automated warehouse will safe you so much money
>it can issue goods 30sec to 1min faster than your typical worker, but you will still need a worker with heavy machinery to pick it up at the exit and bring it to the individual trucks
>it constantly stands still because of mishandling, bugs and hardware problems
>you will have to pay for our support, and it will be more expensive than hiring 20 more warehourse workers
the majority of automation is massive a scam

>>512709475
>>512709817
lmao
>>512705749
honorary white jeet here

>>512712214
that's like, the worst thing china could do, and yet there it is

>>512704046 (OP)
>keep cool really, some true undefeated combat-proven fighter jet is flying by
Never tired of winning.
>b-but india
Never happened, brown people bullshit and lame psyop.

>>512718929
>b-but india
They lost to Pakistan not too long ago (earlier this year). kek
India is a paper tiger just like Russia.

>>512704046 (OP)
>emergency landing F35s in foreign countries
This is becoming a pattern. Are the planes really fault or are the perfidious albions doing sneaky spying or just general probing of reaction/sentiments?

>>512711672
Commercial airliners are always much much harder to make, due to safety and certification reasons. The C919 also uses so many foreign parts because of that, thinking that using foreign components like the LEAP-X engine will enable it to get an EU certification andeven FAA.

China's military airlifter in comparisson was much faster in development. Including its WS-20 engines, which makes it independent of Russian imports.

>>512704046 (OP)

OHHHHH WE STEAL NICE PLANE, ROUNDEYE

>>512709133
You ARE aware that other countries operate the F-15, right? Further, you ARE aware that when we track plane tallies it includes ALL operators regardless of nationality, right? This is why Iraqi losses count against Soviet aircraft and why Greek losses count against American ones (the F-16 downed as a Greek one downed by a Turk)

As to Yemen downing a F-15 specifically, it was a F-15 operated by the Saudis that was downed in 2015 during their disastrous intervention in the Yemeni civil war. No one knows who shot it down or how, as there were four different potential groups at the time, two operating aircraft, all four with SAMs, all claimed credit. But despite the civil war largely wrapping up no new information has come forth….

>>512721346
>The fact that a single nation can produce and fly three seperate tailless fighter prototypes at the same time is insane.
>>Commercial airliners are always much much harder to make
kek, that would mean, europe could create a jet so advanced that china cant even grasp the technology

>>512710588
That’s exactly why the capital is trying its hardest to restart the western economies. Xi has literally cut off their access to the country they set up to be their new host. It’s a massive disaster for the wealthy locusts who for centuries have gone from infesting one country to the next draining them of all resources. And to make matters worse the capitalists had already set up China fully technologically and industrially to take over the world, as their chosen successors are all dead.

Truly it’s the real white pill that the Jewish capital is done for. It’s almost 5 centuries of supremacy done in by hubris.

>>512721754
Yeah, the EU had a headstart in civilian airliners. But dont pretend that delays in the development of these arent "Branchentypisch" kek.

t.planespotter who grew old before seeing his first A380 promised to him 10 years before

>>512707337
Kek I know it's in case it explodes but hitting eject that late has kicking out your car window to get out of a fender bender vibes.

>>512708779
The US has lots of old F-15C/Ds that are nearing the end of their useful life, yet they won't send any to Ukraine. A cynical person would say this is because the US doesn't want to ruin the F-15s K/D record by sending them into a fight where the deck isn't ridiculously stacked in their favor. The US had to be dragged kicking and screaming Germany's Scholz into sending Abrams, and it took a very long time to get the US to approve other people's F-16s being sent to Ukraine. Like the F-16 and Abrams, the F-15 is still being offered for export.

>>512707622
Just resting

>>512704046 (OP)
Based fucked kike slaves

>>512712572
The fact that they are winning and accomplishing every single one of their strategic aims without firing a single shot just means they are better at at war. You know, Sun Tzu and everything.

Besides, they already the beat the US, when it was at the height of its cultural, economic and military power and they were a maoist shithole in the middle of the cultural revolution during the fifties, leading to MacArthur seething and wanting to use nukes. I don't think a rematch of that would go any better for you.

>>512706645
Best part of it when a project becomes "too big to fail" and they have to start killing out functional, worthy projects to make space for it. Like both the F-22 and A-10 fleet barely managed to avoid scrapping to ensure more orders for the F-35.

>>512704046 (OP)
All of that is correct except it didn't really need 2 engines and the J35 is a copy of the F35. Really it should say that it should have been more like the original X35 prototype, which is basically what they are describing.

>>512709133
He might be referring to this. While it might have been hit, to my knowledge there is no evidence that this particular Saudi F-15 crashed afterwards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSrh7GWtoR0

In 2015, after bombing Yemen, a Saudi F-15S crashed into the gulf of Aden, officially due to technical malfunction

>>512707337
Who did China go to air warfare with

>>512722107
>dragged kicking and screaming Germany's Scholz
*dragged kicking and screaming by Germany's Scholz

>>512721641
>you ARE aware that when we track plane tallies it includes ALL operators regardless of nationality, right?
Except when the losses are classified, like the F-18 downed by Iraq. Personally I am pretty convinced that the F-15 was downed in air to air and the SR-71 was damaged over the USSR. The F15 is a great plane but it's combat record looks way better than it actually is, it kind of needs to be taken into context because it was achieved by Israel using them in lopsided battles against low spec'd 2nd and 3rd gen fighters while having intel on these fighters performance, complete information of the battle field, every conceivable advantage, etc.

>>512707716
They always try to lump these different mission sets into the same plane to get economies of scale. And it always fails. Practicality since the key West agreement.

>>512706403
>>512711366
>the final solution to the crab question
And yet I still can't buy crab soap, crab lampshades, or repurposed crab shell floor tiles...

>>512707753
>SARRRR
Loss of the Rafale has been acknowledged. It was probably still due to jeet incompetence Because the Rafale is better than anything Pakistan has.

>>512723970
The Chinese missiles Pakistan had on their Chinese planes had greater BVR reach than whatever crap France offloaded to our corrupt politicians. The whole purchase of Rafale planes smelt of corruption from the start, we should have bought Russian jets only. We seem to be course correcting now, after cancelling plans for F35, we are likely to purchase Su57 with full tech transfer.

>>512721948
>china is supposedly superior to gayropeans
>cant build their own commercial plane
>more copium
kek, china and russia cant do shit on their own

>>512724589
lmao, they can. jews in europe and america would never certify it though

>>512704046 (OP)
China has one of the worst military records in history
They were literally conquered by nomadic goat herders

>>512724688
>chinese air security
>its the joos
are you mentally ill?

Why can't 60 year old British magic be replicated?

>>512704875
Iran pretty much confirmed Ching Chong shit is worthless trash and is no Mach for western tech

>>512724759
to date, not a single ARJ-21 or C919 has crashed, the former having passed its 1M flight hours mark a few years ago.

Chinese airlines in general have pretty good safety records.

>>512705862
This they are using a qt avatar for obvious reasons Ricels are also the most prolific sock puppeteer on the internet pretending to be all sorts which ai has made even easier

>>512706403
>Japanese factory
>China numbs 1
Kek

>>512724332
Yeah that's the thing, the Meteor and PL-15 look pretty similar but IDK what version you got.

>>512722235
>fuck*

>>512725585
Also that's only for the export version of the PL-15, the non export version is much better but even then the PL-15E might be better because only unofficially the Meteor is claimed to have a better range than the PL-15E, the official stats put it under so maybe you did end up buying shit.

>>512725585
They are like not even remotely similiar.
The PL-15 is a dual pulse rocket motor missile, while the Meteor is a ramjet (aka needs fresh air) missile.

Both missiles have their pros and cons, but the Meteor might have the disadvantage in speed due to its engine needing air and hence not being able to use such a lofted trajectory like the PL-15, which is basically like a space rocket that gets another boost when it approaches its target.

>>512724759
its not the jews goyim

>>512707337
>The J-10 has like 5 kills
Blowing up in mid air is not the kills we are talking about

>>512725852
That's how the AIM-54 Phoenix worked.

>>512704046 (OP)
First Hepatitis then the F35.
Why is the B variant always the worst?

>>512706732
This is really not that much faster than a human

>>512707903
Chinks have never wanna war and if it wasn’t for America you would be speaking Japanese right now and probably have some gay fucking haircut they make you wear as a humiliation ritual for being a chink

>>512708918
>China is literally technologically more advanced than the West now

>>512726065
Yes, a lofted trajectory missile it was, but it wasnt dual pulse AFAIK. The dual pulse engine really is a game-changer in some scenarios. The Meteor is still better in terms of chasing down fleeing planes, tho.

>>512724759
please stop the genocide

>>512704046 (OP)
If the chinks say something you immediately know its the opposite

>>512704046 (OP)
If China is making jets, why am I subsidizing their temu deliveries?

>>512727133
They can’t make their own engines lol

>>512708374
I think that bouched off one of those cuck cages that pol cant seem to understand.

>>512706081
I’m listing to General John Ferrari for sure.

>>512706863
Just the Navy’s B variant for launching from USMC short carriers

As much as I hate to agree with Chang here, he’s right. What’s worse is that we didn’t even develop the STOVL tech used in the B. We got it as a technology exchange with the Russian Federation after the collapse of the USSR and they transferred to us a VTOL Yak that we reverse engineered lol. Kind of embarrassing desu

>>512707696
So your big idea is to abandon a doctrine of air supremacy in favor of drones? I think you're reading way too far into the implications of drone technology. Russia's inability to establish air supremacy is not a universal issue. We have invested the lion's share into airpower. Drones haven't invalidated the mission of F-35, and using a WWII-era heavyv fighter to shoot down drones is just ludicrous.

>>512727303
I think they just haven’t nailed down the proximity fuse. That was almost as big a project as the A-bomb. But to not have figured out fuse tech in current year is just shameful.

>>512722107
The US wants Europe to sell russian assets they seized and buy expensive military equipment, not give away old fighters. If I remember right there's about $300 billion to make out of it for the US MIC.

>>512708918
How is the chinks more advanced when they just use american technology they bought from Isn'treal?

>>512706403
so that's how crabs are made

Slide thread slide thread herro
>>512708935
Ummm sweedy - 0 combat loses, but im sure Akbar_telegram says otherwise

>>512722697
>due to a technical malfunction
There is a reason the “malfunction” rate of our equipment goes up an order of magnitude in every war we’ve been in. Because That is precisely the line we’ve used for decades to minimize our losses.

>>512723057
Real fun the number of “malfunctions” proven to be due to enemy action when the videos are released.

time to dust off the cobalt bomb

how do we do it so russia n japan are ok tho?

what sad is chinks seem to be able to build

so why trade?

just build your own country in to nice resort

simple

why expand and conquer when can be comfy?

why bother?

enslave women and make nice megadorms liek nice resort

>>512704046 (OP)
Unfortunately the Britbongs can't into boats anymore and insist on STOVL as a workaround.
I mean did Portsmouth sink into the sea? The fuck happened?

submarines with atomic weapons seem the winning go

nuke largest population center then go down list until surrender

>>512704046 (OP)
That's what the F-22 is for

This stupid plane has to fly subsonic to remain stealthy, needs refueling constantly because it has a tiny range, and is extremely expensive to maintain if you are actually using it

this be fun too

>>512722107
>Y-your aircraft suck!
>b-beacuse you aren't giving them to a failed state run by Jewish pedophiles! Please give them now!
You're very welcome for thanking us for the support you DID get by blackmailing our government, you goddamn Jew rat.

>>512721113
You jeets shit in the codebase

>>512724589
>cant build their own commercial plane

>>512729170
That $300m will never be spent and will in fact be returned to Russia as its seizure was illegal.

>>512707337
>In fact, the F35's only kills are itself lmao
Considering you wrote this and considering the webm, it stands to reason that the F-35 is in fact a plane that trooned out because it identifies as a helicopter

>>512704046 (OP)
Japan is disappointed with the F-35, so it is rushing to develop a new fighter jet with bongs and pasta bros.
To begin with, this is a problem with all recent US-made weapons, but even the delivery of crappy maintenance parts is constantly delayed.

>>512732681
you are not Japanese lmao. the US trusts Japan so much they let them produce the F35 domestically. the GCAP project is falling apart. the US now thinks it is time for Japan to start producing it's own gear and exporting it to our allies. including US tech transfers like the F35 stealth fighter and other systems.

because of the F35 program Japan now has two carrier battlefleets. they have a more powerful blue water navy than anyone else except the US. and this is without trying.

it is amazing how much this technology makes all these VPNs seethe.

it is a fact that the F35 has been shown to defeat the most advanced air defenses not made by the West. the Jews fucking flew all over s-400s for years with impunity. this is why they seethe and make these gay threads.