Thread 512725727 - /pol/ [Archived: 8 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: +Rf1pk7hUnited Kingdom
8/11/2025, 12:10:55 AM No.512725727
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Former leftists make better National Socialists than former conservatives. Nationalists need to reconsider their strategy. Those who have a revolutionary mindset have more potential.
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Anonymous ID: bV9UjAtTUnited States
8/11/2025, 12:16:22 AM No.512726127
>>512725727 (OP)
But leftists are in complete agreement with the values of globohomo. They think the good guys won ww2. There’s nothing revolutionary about their mindset.
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Anonymous ID: sEkyuanEUnited States
8/11/2025, 12:24:17 AM No.512726678
>>512725727 (OP)
>former
possibly
>>512726127
this

real revolution has to come from the ordinary people, it will resemble their values, not necessarily yours. you can't fake one or take shortcuts. those are jewish counterfeits.
make the people better. not the revolutionaries, then you'll have a real revolution. a great awakening. status quo is entrenched, but they're not without weaknesses. hypercomplexity is weakness incarnate
Anonymous ID: MVkRC00uGermany
8/11/2025, 12:29:28 AM No.512727046
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>>512725727 (OP)
That's because Natsoc is essentially a correction of leftism that accounts for and prioritizes the ethnos, which is only as right-wing as the interests of the respective ethnos are. National socialism is uniclass and principally advocates for people to share whatever they can (wealth, labor) to benefit their nation and its members, which in of itself is left-wing (center-left given that the socialism is fettered and informed by national wellbeing). The right-wing aspects of the NSDAP came from their imperialism and master-racism, not from their namesake national socialism.
Anonymous ID: C2uYrtcuGermany
8/11/2025, 12:32:46 AM No.512727285
>>512725727 (OP)
thats why they were retarded when they targeted gamers
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Anonymous ID: y4WnH4xrCanada
8/11/2025, 12:35:34 AM No.512727458
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Truthnuke. Hitler himself talks about this phenomenon.
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Anonymous ID: M3nXAaYPGermany
8/11/2025, 12:39:42 AM No.512727743
>>512727285
kek
Anonymous ID: m1B/NYaKUnited Kingdom
8/11/2025, 12:41:19 AM No.512727861
>>512727458
Yeah are you thinking of the quote where he talks about how former communists are to be allowed to join the NSDAP?
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Anonymous ID: UpdNeoeqGreece
8/11/2025, 12:43:32 AM No.512728002
>>512725727 (OP)
Well Mussolini was a former leftist and he created fascism
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Anonymous ID: y4WnH4xrCanada
8/11/2025, 12:46:20 AM No.512728194
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>>512727861
Yes. Communist or not they are still German (and not jewish) and want what everyone else does, that being a better life. It would be foolish to turn them away at the early stages.
Anonymous ID: MVkRC00uGermany
8/11/2025, 12:48:12 AM No.512728316
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>>512728002
Mussolini didn't create fascism. He discovered fascism, coined the term "fascism", and created and championed an explicitly fascistic party and regime. Fascism is millions if not billions of years older than Humanity, being evident in countless bug species (e.g. ants).
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Anonymous ID: S//BX0vCUnited States
8/11/2025, 12:56:43 AM No.512728894
For those outside the mythos
For those outside the mythos
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>>512725727 (OP)
I also found it interesting how protestantism is often portrayed here as a germanic break from Rome, but many fascist/natsoc leaders (Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler, Mussolini, Miguel Serrano) were raised in Catholic families and later broke from the religion and were anti clerical. Perhaps its because they are used to a culture that values order, but believe the Catholic is unable to fill that role, while protestants are taught to be suspicious of any kind of centralized order, which also causes the problem of hyper individualism and atomization.
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Anonymous ID: 0ULZF1NCUnited Kingdom
8/11/2025, 1:27:34 AM No.512730917
>>512725727 (OP)
The ancestry of National Socialism is National Liberalism, which itself branched off of Proudhon's Anarchy.
Anonymous ID: BVymbmeBGermany
8/11/2025, 2:02:42 AM No.512733161
>>512727458
yes and i think they almost despise the conservatard boomers of their time even more... they didnt ofc since those guys were their fuckin dads... but they had moments were the boomercon of the day made them even more tired than the fuckin bolshevist jew demons
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Anonymous ID: sEkyuanEUnited States
8/11/2025, 2:22:29 AM No.512734348
>>512733161
boomers are incapable of revolution. in fact most people are incapable of revolution because they are reminded frequently that they need it for one reason or another.
Whether it is some kind of social welfare, their livelihood, or fear of the chaos around them. They are reminded frequently.
Its why a revolution has to be of people that can manage those things, that can promise that the lights not go off, that the trash will be removed, that the dangerous people in their neighborhoods will not be allowed to harm them, that they will still be able to buy food and work to provide for themselves and their families.
Which is why real revolutionaries are not extremists or radicals, they are ultra-conservatives. order bringers, prosecutors of the corrupt and incompetent, they are rational, fair and good-tempered.
That is what national socialists were in 1933.
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Anonymous ID: sEkyuanEUnited States
8/11/2025, 2:23:31 AM No.512734403
>they are reminded frequently that they need it for one reason or another.
the system, they are reminded they need the system
Anonymous ID: lJh2bQZBUnited States
8/11/2025, 2:26:10 AM No.512734574
>>512725727 (OP)
That's true for everyone

Some of the 'best' commies were ex right wingers
Some of the best christians were ex-jews
Some of the 'best' jews were christians

Its because they have the power of taking what the enemy has and bringing it over to the other side.

Its why the traitor should always be dealt with before the enemy


Its why traitors are such at threat
To use your enemy's knowledge against them
Anonymous ID: /5iBudXZUnited States
8/11/2025, 2:31:47 AM No.512734900
>>512727861
It was more understandable back then. Now, not so much because being anti-white and being communist are one and the same.
Anonymous ID: MVkRC00uGermany
8/11/2025, 2:32:27 AM No.512734944
>>512728894
Protestantism wasn't exactly a Germanic break from Rome, it was a Nordic break from Rome. Not all Germanic people are ethnoreligious Nords (West and South Germans are ethnoreligious Romans), and not all ethnoreligious Nords are Germanic (Scots are Celtic and Latvians are Baltic).
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Anonymous ID: b+usAf9ZUnited States
8/11/2025, 2:40:51 AM No.512735468
>>512725727 (OP)
Nationalists are a type of socialist since they want to nationalize things such as the Federal Reserve
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Anonymous ID: tl4hygj0United States
8/11/2025, 2:43:23 AM No.512735609
>>512725727 (OP)
Are former leftists willing to imprison leftists in camps? Dachau was used to intern political opponents of the German National Socialist Party(NSDAP,) including German Antifa If they sympathize with them then they can join them in the camps.
Anonymous ID: tl4hygj0United States
8/11/2025, 2:43:53 AM No.512735639
>>512735468
You are a braindead retarded nigger blood and none of that is true.
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Anonymous ID: tl4hygj0United States
8/11/2025, 2:44:30 AM No.512735672
>>512735468
Mutt education everyone.
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Anonymous ID: mZL0vThlItaly
8/11/2025, 2:45:03 AM No.512735709
>>512728894
Let’s put it like this
Jews are the most nazi of all, they believe supremacy is cosmic, metaphysical, not even genetic or cultural.
They are so nazi they created other religions to pacify the inferior races, so they can enslave them when they get the chance.
So there’s no real difference. If there’s a god were all equal in front of him (even plants and animals), pretty much by definition of god
Anonymous ID: nkXFZ6u2United States
8/11/2025, 2:45:07 AM No.512735713
>>512725727 (OP)
True. I was once an antifa anarchist, now I am a National Socialist racialist.
Anonymous ID: b+usAf9ZUnited States
8/11/2025, 2:46:21 AM No.512735785
>>512735639
>>512735672
What kind of nationalist doesn't want to nationalize? Sounds like fake conservatives that don't actually conserve anything and liberals that want to take away freedoms & rights

Many such cases in American politics, all brand and lifestyle larpers
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8/11/2025, 2:54:24 AM No.512736250
seig heil!
i love truth nukes.
Anonymous ID: 5YHk1HmGUnited States
8/11/2025, 3:01:11 AM No.512736631
>>512728316
How do you define fascism if it’s found in ants?
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Anonymous ID: M3nXAaYPGermany
8/11/2025, 3:05:07 AM No.512736829
>>512734944
>West and South Germans are ethnoreligious Romans
wut?
Anonymous ID: sEkyuanEUnited States
8/11/2025, 3:09:39 AM No.512737083
>>512736631
its a stale dialectic from the past
history is a bunch of these choose A or choose B scenarios
over-complicated bullshit
and people turned these dialectics into fucking multigenerational pseudo-religions "ideology"
my people should have a king that is my people.
we are no people but our own. fully unified and unifiable. if we are not unifiable then we are not one people.
our king has no other people but his own people.
simple.
Anonymous ID: yRXazm3pUnited States
8/11/2025, 3:14:56 AM No.512737378
>>512734348
This. National Socialism worked so well because it combines the right wing desire for order and stability with the leftwing desire for revolutionary justice. To the German people, the National Socialists were a stabilizing force, an end to the horror inflicted by Weimar and the communists, but to the wider world, especially the modern western world controlled by the international jew, National Socialism was a rebellion, a revolution against the newly formed economic world order of things. In a lot of ways National Socialism is more of a philosophy than real tangible ideology. It's ultimately a philosophy of racial survival as the highest moral good and the purpose of governance, and as an aid to survival it balances the forces and desires within a race optimum for survival. It breaks the fake and gay left right paradigm and uses aspects of whatever ideologies work, irregardless of where they come from, so long as it benefits the people and the people's state.
Anonymous ID: S//BX0vCUnited States
8/11/2025, 3:18:29 AM No.512737580
The state is a means to an end
The state is a means to an end
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>>512736631
The core of fascism is creating the organic state, in which every person and institution is placed in its natural position, and each element of the organic state works in unity towards a shared purpose, like a biological organism. This is contrasted by Marxism, which calls for class conflict, and liberalism, which emphasizes "individual rights", ultimately creating atomized alienated individuals who are easy to control

>A certain father had three sons, who were always
quarreling. Hearing their constant disputes angered
him but no matter how he scolded them they wouldn't
see reason. Getting worried about their future, he
decides to give them a practical lesson. He tells his sons
to bring him a bundle of sticks to him. Tying the sticks
together, he asks them to break this bundle. Each of
them tries, and fails. The father removes the knot, distributes the sticks to his sons. The boys now break
them with ease. ‘You see, my sons, when you're apart,
you can be destroyed easily. But if you stick to each
other, you become unbreakable.

>It's also called the fasces. It was used by the Romans in
their ceremonies, and can still be found sculpted in the stone
of official buildings in many countries today. The fasces is a
symbol of unity. This is where the modern term "fascism"
comes from. It has roots going back in the remotest antiquity

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