Soft power does more of the heavy lifting of empire than hard power does.

Think of Rome at its peak. It still could not have fought and conquered all its enemies at once, despite its massive military advantages.

What gets most people to go along with the empire is what the empire can offer them in terms of progress. In other words, they consent to be governed by the empire because life under the empire is better than the alternative.

Now, life under the US Empire isn't looking too hot, but under the rival Chinese power bloc it looks quite a bit brighter.

Whether this remains the case, who can say?

Roman was constantly fighting revolts. soft power is some dumb female concept.

>>512738709 (OP)
>they consent to be governed by the empire because life under the empire is better than the alternative.
Doubt.

>>512738917
>>they consent to be governed by the empire because life under the empire is better than the alternative.
>Doubt.
Every empire finds very willing local collaborators in each colony it holds, typically entire willing ethnic groups. They are very significant in the empire's success.

The greatest single investment the British made to perpetuate their power throughout the globe was the creation of the 28 volume Oxford English Dictionary, the most comprehensive dictionary in the world. This accomplished the feat of making English the de facto international language for intellectuals in the world.

>>512738913
>Roman was constantly fighting revolts. soft power is some dumb female concept.
Not nearly constant, especially when Roman prestige and respect was at its height during the Pax Romana. For much of that period, Judea was the main hot spot for revolt. Revolts elsewhere were rare and sporadic.
After Rome began to crack in the Third Century, then yeah, revolts broke out, but mostly in the service of generals vying for the imperial throne since the provinces those generals came from expected favors if their guy won.
Soft power is by no means a lesser form of power than direct military dominance. Both are crucial to successful empire building. Without either of these ingredients in place, an empire cannot form.

>>512738709 (OP)
Why use an African animal as your symbol instead of a European animal?

>>512739078
>The greatest single investment the British made to perpetuate their power throughout the globe was the creation of the 28 volume Oxford English Dictionary, the most comprehensive dictionary in the world. This accomplished the feat of making English the de facto international language for intellectuals in the world.
Excellent point

>>512738913
Is that why the Vatican is soft power?
https://youtube.com/shorts/C2L_GmIVyeo?feature=shared

>>512739062
It's basically a puppet leader and it usually only benefits the puppet leader's inner circle, not the people.

>>512739275
Because the British lived like lions. Sleep around all day waiting for the females to catch their meal.

>>512739275
I think it something to do with Phoenicians having trade routes in Mediterranean and Red Sea and then settling over there. That's why Britain is a seafaring nation

>>512738709 (OP)
>t. 1997 glownigger

it's like you faggots are stuck in a timewarp

>>512739275
Europe used to have lions

>>512739275
In ancient times, lions were still native to Europe. Eventually they were all hunted out of Europe and most of Asia. Lions being confined to Africa, and small parts of Asia, is a more recent thing.

>>512739380
>It's basically a puppet leader and it usually only benefits the puppet leader's inner circle, not the people.
In the long run, empires do benefit the common people of the colonies.
Empires are how progress diffuses from a much more advanced civilization to a far more primitive culture.

>>512739366
being a shell of what you used to be hardly qualifies as soft power. you of all people should know that.

>>512739700
he means the people of the core empire.

>>512739728
Yes but I'm not understanding what your point is exactly? The Roman empire still exists through the extension of the church and knights Templar orders involved with the US

>>512739700
>In the long run, empires do benefit the common people of the colonies
How did the British Empire benefit Ireland in any way?

>>512739872
You're acting as if we didn't actively take part in the Empire. Things were better with Britain.

>>512740066
Britain persecuted and purged Catholicism in Ireland. It didn't matter if you were a rich Irish Anglo loyal to Britain because being catholic was a crime. That and the famine too.

>>512739746
>he means the people of the core empire.
In the Roman Empire, common Romans definitely benefited from the peace and prosperity, the good road systems, the aqueducts and advanced mining methods to procure minerals, etc. etc. It was during the Late Empire that the common people got heavily screwed by things like onerous taxes, a law requiring sons to assume their fathers' line of work (to stop people from fleeing the countryside, racked with wars, for the cities, so as to protect agricultural productivity), and other stern policies.
So yes, late, dying empires suck all around, including for the elites. Healthy empires benefit everyone.
And yes, in the case of the British Empire, the British working class paid a heavy price for Britain's militarism and wealthy industrialists gained the most from the imperial project. I do wish the British working class had had it better.
But that was during the industrial revolution where working classes had it bad in every industrializing society. It took a while for workers to gain basic rights in every country. Had the British Empire endured, it's entirely possible, and in fact there is no good reason to believe otherwise, that British workers would have gained many rights while the empire continued on.
Look at the US after World War II, which effectively has been the global hegemon or the world's foremost empire, just an informal empire that doesn't explicitly claim land, but dominates its different lands indirectly.
In the post-war era, the US working class was doing better than any common class in world history, while the US empire remained very dominant.
So good conditions for workers/common people, and a strong empire, are not mutually exclusive.

The british empire and its american colony would have worked fine in a world that was 100% white

>>512738709 (OP)
I'm so sick of ancient demon worship i could shit

>>512738917
Nigger you are consensually living in an empire NOW

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>>512740212
>Britain persecuted and purged Catholicism in Ireland. It didn't matter if you were a rich Irish Anglo loyal to Britain because being catholic was a crime. That and the famine too.
No empire is untainted and pure or without a record of abuses.
Empires are the mechanism by which nature diffuses concentrated progress that has been occurring in a particular region to other regions that have not undergone the same advances.
And of course, humans are not saints. So when one region gains a giant advantage over other regions, enough to conquer and colonize them, the process of diffusing progress occurs at least somewhat, but not entirely, aggressively. If we were saints, then empires would be empires of happiness, since people from the very advanced regions would go to the backwaters for entirely altruistic reasons, but this is not the world we live in, so the diffusion of concentrated progress occurs through a mixture of self-interested endeavors and some altruistic ones as well.
British policy toward Ireland during the potato blight was harsh and a mistake, but this alone is not enough to tip the scales against the overall positive role that the British Empire played in the world.
Because empires diffuse or spread progress, they are, on the whole, good things.

>>512739275
It's an excellent question and from what I recall lions started appearing in European heraldry around the first crusade. They were very popular in northern europe, scandinavia, netherlands, and england. My personal suspicion is that the main cats these noblemen interacted with were wildcats and housecats, and that they saw them, like hawks and eagles, as symbols of ferocious combat skills. They were certainly aware of lions in the near east, and many of them had lions imported and kept in zoos,
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menagerie
>An early example is that of the Emperor Charlemagne in the 8th century. His three menageries, at Aachen, Nijmegen and Ingelheim, located in present-day Netherlands and Germany, housed the first elephants seen in Europe since the Roman Empire, along with monkeys, lions,
>At the beginning of the 12th century, Henry I of England is known to have kept a collection of animals at his palace in Woodstock, Oxfordshire, reportedly including lions, leopards, lynxes, camels, owls, and a porcupine.[4]

>>512740906
I'm not seeing the similarity.
People raising their arms as a gesture of rejoicing or triumph is universal and found across the world.
The symbol of Lady Brittania is not some update of an ancient god by a hidden cult that rules our civilization.

>>512740754
Problem is that eventually the costs of empire outrun the benefits. Interesting that even five years ago Americans would flat out deny that could ever be possible. Today of course if Trump's second term is about anything serious at all, its the wide recognition of that fact. Interesting that implicit in that is going to be the dawning corollary that China will replace you and there is nothing you can do about it. Welcome to the post-Imperial club.

>>512740941
>Nigger you are consensually living in an empire NOW
And he's in one of the countries benefiting the most from US empire and the economic conditions it has created.

Empires and imperialism is shit. Their elites always start cannibalizing their own ethnic core population for short term profits or in order to retain their power.

>>512738709 (OP)
>think of Rome
fuck Rome
fuck London
fuck D.C.
fuck ancient Egypt
fuck Persia
FUCK BABYLON

Rome at its peak is not the flex you think it is. it represents a low for humanity. they were trying to bring back something that was put away for good reason. anyone promoting ancient egypt today is a fuckin' tool.

https://youtu.be/f_1mxNtLCK0?si=nNDs9zdwrAxOSF35&t=92

>>512741414
>Problem is that eventually the costs of empire outrun the benefits. Interesting that even five years ago Americans would flat out deny that could ever be possible. Today of course if Trump's second term is about anything serious at all, its the wide recognition of that fact. Interesting that implicit in that is going to be the dawning corollary that China will replace you and there is nothing you can do about it. Welcome to the post-Imperial club.
All political systems are subject to diminishing returns over time, whether they are empires or isolated hermit kingdoms. They all decay and eventually fall.
Might as well have an empire before the fall, rather than just an isolated kingdom.

>>512741365
>I'm not seeing the similarity.

>>512740906
Its so obviously Minerva carrying Neptune's trident and that is what you come out with.

>>512741715
Tridents have been used for millennia by vastly different cultures. They were known in the Near and Middle East, as well as in Europe, and in East Asia.

>>512741785
>Tridents have been used for millennia by vastly different cultures.

vastly different cultures in contact with each other that conducted long distance trade across the sea?

and that symbol is related to the SEA?

OMFG

you don't say

>>512741869
Well, yes. Things from China, like paper and gunpowder, and from India like spices, diffused to Europe during ancient and also medieval times. And the influence went the opposite direction too, with Greek thought reaching Central Asia, like Afghanistan, in the Hellenistic Period before the Roman Age. Eurasia has been interconnected, for example by the Silk Roads, for millennia.

>>512742288
so we agree

>>512742372
>so we agree
Not about your suggestion that Lady Brittania's trident is a secret message from some hidden cult that's been ruling and manipulating the Eurasian landmass for thousands of years.
The trident looks impressive so various cultures sometimes use it in imagery. They also use other tools and weapons too that look neat.

>>512742537
But yes, Jews have inordinate power in the West, in America most of all, and some medieval policies, like those against usury, laid some of the foundation for recent Jewish power. And yes, the Jews, as a group, tend to have a grudge with the West along with genetic programming evolved into them through selective breeding practices that inclines them to damage and disorganize their host societies so that Jews are safer from an organized rebellion against their abuses and so that Jews have an easier time preying on their host countries' people.

>baka

>>512742537
>Not about your suggestion that Lady Brittania's trident is a secret message from some hidden cult that's been ruling and manipulating the Eurasian landmass for thousands of years.

>>512742537
>But yes, Jews have inordinate power in the West, in America most of all, and some medieval policies, like those against usury, laid some of the foundation for recent Jewish power

so....

we agree

>fabrizio massimo brancaccio

>>512742787
I guess so. Perhaps I didn't understand the point you were making. But if we agree, then all is good.

>>512742913
God will punish them

>>512738709 (OP)

Rome and London will be nuked to enable the world to move on from the homo fascist empire system. Other places too. The new system will be a global system, and every nation will be part of it.

>>512743075
Golda Meier cries out in pain as she kills your children.

>>512743831
ugh

this