It happened. Get over it. Human sexual dimorphism is a biologic fact which traces back over 500 million years. Why do libshits deny evolution? Race is far more skin deep and a social construct (relatively speaking) than sex.

>>512753580 (OP)
If you want pure nature then agriculture and industry are far more prominent sins for you to focus on

>>512753580 (OP)
proof?

>>512753681
Pic rel is a depiction of the laryngeal branches of the vagus nerve.
It's path makes sense in fish, but in the descendants of fish, all vertebrate land life, the nerve travels from the brain, around the heart, back up the throat and to the larynx. It's clearly a vestige of its evolution first in fish. Otherwise, would it not make sense to simply have the nerve avoid looping the heart?

>>512753580 (OP)
How does evolution explain random bizarre fetishes that people have? I am not denying the existence of evolution but rather I am trying to further my understanding of it
Like, are they mutations that are randomly occurring in our gene pool?

>>512753580 (OP)
Put a male and female chink in the exact same clothes with the same hairstyle and there is no way to tell which ones a woman

>>512754344
>are they mutations that are randomly occurring in our gene pool

That's literally what evolution is

>>512754269
This is such a poor adaptation that surely random mutation would have found a superior route by now and we wouldn’t be observing it as even random chance is better than this.

>>512754344
>>512754432
>anon discovers the theory of evolution 166 years late

>>512754494
Evolution works with the structures that exist and doesn't magic wand the logical best solution... That's what a de facto creator does... So I don't quite understand what your argument is. Why would a creator intentionally create such a structure?

>>512754555
That is deeply disturbing. Kinda like how on a long enough timeline in any individual’s family tree, you will come across very grievous and traumatic events leading to births of ancestors

>>512754363
Men have penises. Women have vaginas. That is sexual dimorphism.

>>512753580 (OP)
>uhh fish guts. boom, take that, god!
ok pal

>>512754637
Still doesn't make it any less gay being attracted to chinks

>>512754344
While there will never be a definitive answer, I would argue that these "fetishes" are learned, or at least build upon an intrinsic structure which develops attraction. If someone is exposed to bizarre act X in a sexual manner, they may attribute sexual attraction to bizarre act X

>>512754721
It's also human and giraffe guts. The same silly structure that we share with the fish, but it only makes sense logically in the fish.

>>512754742
Statistically speaking, aren't you a chink?

>>512753580 (OP)

First, based as fuck. I see so many creationists in this damn board. Second, it isn’t liberals, it’s conservatives that have a higher propensity towards evolution denial, and science denial in general. You can look it up.

Minir error, but good on you for spreading the wonders of science, even on this godless site. Godspeed, OP.

>>512754890
Science "denial", though I despise the term, is the entire left right now. Science denial exists among the boomers on the right.

>>512754803
Statistically speaking you're more likely to be a beaner than I a chink
Why so defensive Pedro?

>>512754936

https://news.gallup.com/poll/647594/majority-credits-god-humankind-not-creationism.aspx

If you scroll down a little, you can see they did a study on exactly this, corroborating a link between conservatism and creationism.

Thank you for being civil btw, I was half expecting a “get lost commie jewfag” or whatever, so I guess you’re one of the good ones! Still not entirely correct, though, so that’s why I’m helping ya. Happy reading!

>>512753580 (OP)
>he thinks giraffes are real
have you ever seen one?
and no, the animatronics you saw at a zoo as a kid don't count

>>512753580 (OP)
Because from an evolutionary perspective, faggots are a genetic defect or a mental illness. Blacks are an earlier and mentally retarded species of humanity.

You leftist bastards are a form of faith with a number of dogmas.

>>512754593
>Why would a creator intentionally create such a structure?
To test your faith.
Have you ever argued with a christian?

>>512755233
>Gallup
No seriously, the left declares what it believes as "science", but it's a facade which masks it's often wholly mistaken worldview. The left literally believes that men can become women. What makes it's more trouble some for these conversations is that the left, with its media control, declares anything that isn't itself as anti-science. Ergo, rightism is necessarily anti-science simply due to its opposition to the left.

The rights model of the universe, even the creationists, does not make the same fundamental and obvious errors that the left does.

>>512755507

From an evolutionary perspective, the word you are looking for is race, not species. All people are Homo sapiens, one species.

Second, black people have exactly the same brain structure as any other race. Because they’re the same species. Finally, no they are not earlier, even though they are ancestral to other races. This is because they have evolved the exact same amount as those other races, just differently.

As for gay people existing- I won’t fight you on that. From an evolutionary perspective, yeah, it isn’t useful. But calling people defects just because they prefer something is, I’m sorry to say, wrong. Finally, it’s not the left that are like this, it’s the right at the moment- just look at the state of /pol/ and you’ll see it.

I hope that this will help you be more informed and less racist and bigoted.

>>512755826
>Not liking gay is wrong
How is it wrong? Isn't that your preference? Why should we prefer your preference over his preference?

>>512755679

Actually, I would like to debate you on this a little. As a liberal myself, I don’t see it that way- but I’d be glad to hear your view, and I think that a productive dialog could be attained from this.

First, the trans discussion is something I’d largely prefer to stay out of. That’s a minefield of awful things said on both sides.

So, what exactly makes it a “mistaken worldview” as you see it?

>>512755948

Oh, the uh the gay thing

Sorry, I should have worded that a little better- it’s wrong to HATE gay people, on account of them being gay. That isn’t something they can control.

>>512755826
You are a brainless leftist bio-garbage. If Canis lupus lycaon and Canis lycaon
They are different species, then blacks and white people are even more different species.

>>512755963
Men can never become women. It is "anti-science" to suggest otherwise.
But that isn't the origin of that belief, rather
>Men and women are fundamentally the same
The point of this thread, human sexual dimorphism is a reality which has its roots in 500 million years of evolution. Men and women are not the same.

But even that is not the origin of the false belief that men can become women.
>The roles men and women fulfil are social constructs
Once more this is a contradiction of human evolution as men are necessarily the active hunting agent due to female vulnerability during pregnancy. As such, men evolved to be more robust and active as opposed to women, each of whom perform critical roles in the furtherance of the species.

And that belief comes from
>Women are just as capable at anything as men are
A falsehood that rejects the same evolutionary pressures explained in the paragraph before.

And that's just about men and women. This doesn't even touch on human biodiversity, something in which the left wants to reduce to skin color because facing the realities that all populations are in some ways different as a result of the environments in which they evolved in.
>Race is a social construct
And evolution is real, but stopped 100,000 years ago!!
>But that isn't a significant amount of time evolutionarily speaking!
Tell that to Ursus arctos and maritimus; tell that to the dogs! And the 100,000 divergence is just the out-of-africa model. Africa is far and away the most racially diverse continent on earth, but most people, the left included, do not understand this. Africa has more distinct racial groups than every other continent combined, thing is that they're all "black" in skin color, so the tards call them the "black" race, or "blacks". There is no racial "blacks". There are many, many races who are black in Africa, and they all began diverging well before anyone likes to admit.

And this is just evolution. At least the right knows what a woman is

>>512753580 (OP)
Why does the cock have a heart?

>>512756457

Not how taxonomy works. I see that you’re unfortunately hell-bent on being racist and mean to people with other political opinions, without providing evidence for your claims. Nice graphic by the way, that’s not a verifiable source.

I will not be engaging with you any more, anon, and I wish you a pleasant day and hope you can improve.

>>512756070
Why is it wrong, seriously? Sounds like an odd question, I know, but what makes ANYTHING wrong and why should anyone adopt your position?

>>512756588
Of course you have nothing to say to all the leftist brainwashed when they are faced with reality.

Wolves are the easiest example that will tear you to shreds because the differences between their species are minimal and they interbreed.

Unfortunately, in the West there are no atheists or pure science, everything has been occupied by the Jews with their insanity. Fortunately, there is China, which will pick up the torch of civilization from the degenerates.

>>512756546

Okay, I’ll bite. Apparently we’re doing the trans thing now. So, you make good points. However, 8th like to disagree with some.

While it’s true that a biological man cannot become a biological woman, it is also true that surgery is a thing that can modify genitals. If we define a woman as someone with a female reproductive tract, then yes, men can become women in that sense.

Yes, gender roles aren’t exactly a social construct- there’s instincts that differ in men and women, but ultimately we have come to a point where we can do anything regardless of those instincts. Dissolution of gender roles isn’t natural, but neither is going to space and making computers.

Women and men do have differing physical characteristics slightly, but certainly not intellectual capabilities. It’s limited solely to the physical; there are some feats only women can accomplish, and some only men can accomplish, but the fast majority of activities make no distinction.

>>512756546

The left is focused on racism because it’s currently a massive problem that we unfortunately still need to deal with as a species.

Nobody thinks race is a truly social construct; it’s a physical attribute. If they do, while it would be the left that predominantly would fall for such a notion, the vast majority do not. We ain’t sheep.

>>512753580 (OP)
No, God made everything in seven days you fucking heathen.

>>512756910
>If we define a woman as someone with a female reproductive tract, then yes, men can become women in that sense.
A mutilated cock does not and never will make a vagina. Simply declaring it a vagina does not make anything a vagina. It serves none of the functions of a vagina, let alone the fact that it is a LITERAL festering wound that the body is CONSTANTLY trying to heal, hence the need for dilation. That is NOT healthcare. That "healthcare" is a permanent paycheck for a corporate hospital and MD. Additionally there's no uterus, hello???
>If we define a woman as someone with a female reproductive tract,
Still, a woman is an adult human female. A human female has no Y chromosomes. That is a female.

>Women and men do have differing physical characteristics slightly, but certainly not intellectual capabilities.
This is not shown in the literature. Here is how men and women differ in IQ
>Pic rel
Every study of sexual dimorphism in human intelligence basically produces this distribution, two similar, BUT different bell curves. While it is TRUE that if one took every female score and every male score THEN averaged them, male and female IQ is demonstrably indistinguishable, but that is the fallacy. As you can see, the two curves are different in that there are FAR more women in the AVERAGE range of IQ and there are FAR more men in the extremes, retardation and genius. As such a result, the distribution of labor in society also results this, particularly when it comes to, ironically enough, scientific research and business and strategic acumen. As we approach the extremes of the IQ distribution, the ratio changes from W1:1M to W1:10M to W1:100M.
>Women are under represented in positions of power and and prestige
No, women are OVER REPRESENTED at those positions. Those positions demand the most exceptional people and often those are the most intelligent people. It happens that there are far more 130+ IQ men then there are 130+ IQ women.

>>512757194
a day to god is not 24 human hours
go read that book or watch the movie of it

>>512757052
>Nobody thinks race is a truly social construct; it’s a physical attribute.
A physical attribute I'm sure to mean the exclusion of average differences in intelligence, reproductive behavior and other behavioral proclivities. All of which have their evolutionary pressures to produce. Is that correct? You believe there are little to no differences between the apparent races in those general categories?

>>512756546

Hey, webpage shit itself and reloaded. Put me under a different name. I can’t continue for now, I have to go do a bunch of stuff, and it’s late. We both made some good points.

But if you’re going to take one thing away from our interaction, it’s this:

Just don’t bully trans people, no matter what. They go through enough. Let them do what they want, they’re not hurting you.

Look at some news. Not your usual stuff, but all over the place. Ask yourself questions about what you believe, and avoid people with the same views as you. Look at all sides of the spectrum, not just reinforcing yourself. I do this, and 8’m happier for it.

Find a liberal somewhere else in this awful board, no matter how hard it is- and ask them why they think what they think, why they hold their opinions. You’ll learn that we aren’t that much different in the end- we all have mostly the same goal, but different ways of approaching it.

Thank you for showing me your side. While my views remain the same, I know know a little more about why you have yours. Sorry I couldn’t keep talking longer. Have a good day, internet person.

>>512756910
>>512757441
And to bring the point back around, there is no evolutionary reason for the sedentary sex, the frail pregnant female, to be as intellectually dynamic as the human male, particularly due to the humans having previously being a harem forming species in which exceptional males were socially selected for to bear offspring with many women.

>>512757715
You're the people who are harming the "trans". No one can transition. Stop telling them to pursue irreversible and destructive procedures in pursuit of a damn lie that you know to be a damn lie. That is evil.

>>512754269
this doesnt prove anything.
Are there experiments replicating evolution under controled conditions on a lab or something?

>>512753580 (OP)
>liberals are the ones denying science
That's the exception, not the rule.

>>512758558
>Doesn't address the problem
Comment discarded

>>512758628
What the left declares to be "science" is most assuredly not

>>512758788
> doesn answer the question
k

>>512758978
Do you even understand the issue of the recurrent laryngeal nerve? Is it not clearly a vestige of its evolution in fish?

>>512753580 (OP)
I deny evolution. It’s too slow. The world was obviously created.

>>512753580 (OP)
Macro Evolution is a purely theoretical concept. If a creature passes on its traits to its offspring it does not mean that 500 million years ago a fish passed on legs and sprouted arms.

Evolutionists need millions of years to justify their delusions.

>>512759630
>>512759611
Explain the nerve, twinkle toes. Can you creatards even fathom what you're looking at?

>>512759279
what im saying is that a common pattern may just be a coincidence and is not proof.
If evolution can be replicated then yes that proves it, but without proof everything is just a belief.
> millions of years are not a coinidence
but how would you know without proof.

>>512759692
I’m not the dude that made this shit. You’re asking for what is at best some kind of conjecture to then stand in for what God did. None of that shit is in good faith and is analogous to speculating about Saiyan physiology.

>>512758558
No there is no way to prove Macro Evolution. What Evolutionists do is claim Micro Evolution (which is a real observable phenomenon) i.e. the passing of traits, is good enough to "validate" Macro Evolution.

Cognitive profile varies significantly among people (as opposed to, say, number of fingers or eyes). The notion that different races somehow magically evolved the exact same cognitive profile, and to believe otherwise is racist, despite a century of evidence, is the grand science denial of the left.

>>512759774
Why does the laryngeal nerve require to travel 15ft up and down the neck of a giraffe?
>Creationist argument: Because it just does and it's okay if it makes the opposite of sense
>Evolutionary explanation: Because it follows the same structure which first arose in fish when the nerve evolved as demonstrated by both fish and giraffes sharing not only the same nerve, but also the same pattern.
You understand your claims of demonstrability is ironic, correct?

>>512759877
>it doesn’t have to make sense
This but less smug and more humble.

>>512759692
Thinking about it logically. It is probably a nerve needed by most if not all life. The error would be in the human thought process that states it is a vestige that is not needed. If it doesn't have an inherent use that can be observed it just means that humanity hasn't figured out what it is used for or why it is needed.

>>512759877
>>Evolutionary explanation: Because it follows the same structure which first arose in fish when the nerve evolved as demonstrated by both fish and giraffes sharing not only the same nerve, but also the same pattern.
Great. I really like this explanation.
Can you prove it?

>>512760013
You can observe the predecessor of the recurrent laryngeal nerve in fish, the 6th vagus nerve, as it accesses their gills by passing the heart.

This 6th nerve still passes the heart in mammals, but no longer has gills to function. Instead, it's function, contraction of the larynx, has traveled away from the heart as tetrapods, in this case giraffes, evolved long necks. This same nerve now has to travel from the brain, down the neck, around the aortic arch, and back up to the larynx. This is called a vestige. You demand that a scientist stick a hamster in a microwave and spawn a bird, but you well understand the nature of the claim and know that this makes for a superior explanation, a scientific model (aka a theory), to demonstrate the curious absurdity that is the recurrent laryngeal nerve.

Your explanation is that it's so stupid it's brilliant because what else could it be. God's universe is complex and the mechanism in which he created life, evolution via natural and sexual selection, is far more complex than you're willing to give him credit because you prefer a dumb God that makes silly absurd choices like the recurrent laryngeal nerve.

Christcucks look at what humanity did to dog breeds and think “god did this”

MITTENS

Evolution happened, but it was managed.

So evolution of Canis Familiaris

>>512760605
More like atheists looking at different dog breeds and thinking they arose naturally instead of being a result of intelligent minds

>>512760361
Well, I never said anything about creationism.
The funny thing is that when edgy atheists talk about these things to people who believe in God, their first argument is that there is no proof while at the same time (by your admission), evolution is theory, and it has no proof, and believing in something without proof is retarded according to them.

>>512760483
so an intelligent mind manipulated them to their will?

>>512760803
>its just a theory
lol.
imagine being this dumb.

>>512760803
A scientific theory is a model which articulates the relationship between various observable phenomenon. Proofs only exist in mathematics. You're just demonstrating that you don't know what any of these words mean.
>I didn't say anything about creationism
Holy shit, what alternative model of speciation are you here to propose? Lmfao you absolute spaz

>>512760803
It’s more reasonable than an almighty being willing things into existence
>>512760865
An intelligent mind manipulated dog breeding based on the theories of evolution such as breeding selective traits. Another very basic example is certain bacteria evolving enough they became resistant to antibiotics due to mutts overabusing them

The revival of performative christcuckery has been a disaster for the human race

>>512760977
So where was it observed that fish turned into mammals?

>>512761092
Address the central proposition of the thread, the recurrent laryngeal nerve, you faggot.

>>512760962
Animals share design characteristics?
>evolution
There's the "evidence" for your ̶t̶h̶e̶o̶r̶y̶ hypothesis.

>>512753580 (OP)
What did God evolve from then?

>>512761128
I already did. You were too busy jerking off to your belief that macro evolution exists to reply.

>>512760011
No, the nerve serves a function. It's not vestigial in that it serves no purpose. What IS vestigial is the path in which it must travel in order to reach its destination. It travels from the brain to the heart and then back up the neck to the larynx, instead of just traveling from the brain directly to the larynx like the superior laryngeal nerve does. The reason it makes this route is that it, the recurrent laryngeal nerve, is the same nerve as the fish's 6th vagus nerve. In fish, the 6th vagus nerve travels a sensible straight path passed the heart and to the gills. Mammals no longer have gills, so this laryngeal nerve serves throat flexion instead of gill flexion now. But the path and structure first evolved in fish, yet mammals grew necks, sometimes long necks like giraffes, in which this same nerve has grows around the same structures it does in fish, but this time, has to stretch all the way from the brain, down to the heart and back up to the throat.

>>512760977
> what alternative model of speciation are you here to propose?
I im a Boltzmann'ian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boltzmann_brain

>articulates the relationship between various observable phenomenon
So, if the process macroevolution itself can't be observed because it takes millions of years, and we can only observe the result which might just be a coincidence, then isn't this theory a waste of time?

>>512760962
imagine beign bri'hish

>>512761430
I don't think that means what you think it means lmfao

>>512754269
There is a nerve that answers your question, the superior laryngeal nerve which goes directly from the brain to the larynx. The recurrent laryngeal nerve by going around the heart causes coughing during respiratory infection which serves as a warning to other members of the species or community that one of their members has something contagious. That is the known function of the supposed detour of the recurrent laryngeal nerve. Evolution has nothing to do with it and evolution is not even a genuine theory because every single prediction the 'theory' has either ever made has either failed or has countless exceptions to it.

>>512753580 (OP)

evolution is real, but is expressing a pattern in nature similar to the formation of crystals and other complex ordered structures. there is a force that guides the process.

life on other planets is basically identical to earth for this reason. there are some variances but all the different orders of life are the same everywhere.

>>512761412
You have stated an assumption. You assume that the path is vestigial because it is similar to the function of a fish's 6th vagus nerve. Which is much shorter than a giraffe's and that they are the same thing or that one is the evolutionary product of another. You even assume a path being straight is the "sensible path" which is reductive in thinking and hypocritical to evolutionary theory that these parts are made by random chance. You fail to even think any other reason could be possible and you have shown no evidence to back up your claim that the path is vestigial.

>>512762506
You're right, the sensible path is that of a curly fry! Biologic systems do not attempt to minimize cost! No! The long winding route for no reason actually have a ton of reasons!
>Name one
It just does!

>>512759810
man. i wonder if there are any retards left on this site who would take the bait. its gotta be me, i suppose

>>512762593
You're right, everything in nature is perfectly direct and straight. This tree clearly has a vestigial growing structure from its seaweed ancestors.

>organs exist so that means we used to be tadpoles
this is your brain on atheism

>>512759810
true

>>512762506
Have you read this paper? If not, why not?
https://creation.com/images/pdfs/tj/j25_1/j25_1_63-68.pdf

>>512762506
Sorry, wrong person, will delete. I had to hurry up before the thread archived

>>512761412
Have you read this paper? If not, why not?
https://creation.com/images/pdfs/tj/j25_1/j25_1_63-68.pdf

>>512760977
>A scientific theory is a model which articulates the relationship between various observable phenomenon.
It is not. You have no clue about science and you sound rather dim as well.

1. Do you believe in the theory of evolution? Yes or No.

>>512753580 (OP)
This is the evolution of the gap fallacy. You are unable to replicate a human being, because current science have no clue how it is done and thus your talk about "design flaws" is based on ignorance and lack of knowledg at best. It is like some bush negroes entering an airplane and start to ramble on about design flaws, like unable to open the windows etc, due to their own vast ignorance, and then make up some unfoundd crackpot theory who made it and why. For you to use this as some kind of scientific "evidence" is pathetic at best and only further proves that evolution is voodoo science made up by low-IQ academic charlatans.

>>512753580 (OP)
How low is your IQ, faggot?

>>512753580 (OP)
>golems in this thread seething over their ju on a stick

>>512766336
>golems in this thread seething over their ju on a stick
>Evolution is true goyim. Ditch your fantastic White European civilization White golems, the greatest civilization the world has ever seen, and behave like godless animals, he, he, he, he.

>>512766468
Evolution being a reality isn’t a justification for abandoning White racial identity though, so what are you trying to say, golem?

>>512766336
>golems in this thread seething over their ju on a stick
>Evolution is true goyim. Ditch your fantastic White Christian European civilization golems, the greatest civilization the world has ever seen, and behave like godless animals, he, he, he, he.

>>512766554
There is no love, honor, nationalism etc in a worldview based on materialism.

>>512753580 (OP)
The Earth is ~6000 years old. Biblical evidence is way more convincing than your scientific evidence. Sorry not sorry.

>>512753580 (OP)
>sex matters more than race
>so race isn't real
Incredibly unscientific argument.

>>512758558
>Are there experiments replicating evolution under controled conditions on a lab or something?
Dog breeding

>>512761873
What are some exceptions to the theory of evolution?

>>512766844
Dog breeding producing something other than a dog? Are you high?

>>512766670
Using the human imagination and inventing stories that convey moral instruction isn’t an escape from materialism.

>>512753580 (OP)
What's your point, faggot?

>>512766922
What is a dog?
What makes a wolf and a pug the same in your mind that isn't informed by knowledge that one came from the other?

>>512753580 (OP)
> HEY MOM, CHECK IT OUT! I FOUND MY VAGUS! I GUESS IM A REAL WOMAN AFTER ALL!!
Get over it weirdo

>>512766927
If you can't observe natiolism and honor empirically in a laboratory, a materialistic atheist will dismiss their existence, just as they reject God, and claim that it is only irrational superstition to claim that a nation has something unique and worthwhile preserving. Same with honor, love, goodness etc. That's why Jews are pushing deranged atheism so hard and that nearly all NPC morons and traitors are atheists.

>>512767051
No idea what you are kvetching about. What is your science background/understanding?

I don't believe in jewish lies like evolution or trump

>>512767051
The fact that they can have fertile offspring together alongside a plethora of similarities between the two. Pugs are essentially wolves with downs.

>>512753580 (OP)
Aaaaand the atheist ape had to run away.

>>512765955
That paper doesn't explain why the nerve would loop around the aorta.
It describes the weirdness of embryonic development and the odd processes that go on in it as though this isn't a good example of evolution demonstrating the shared ancestry of most life.
The heart having to strangely descend in the body and stretching body parts with it, doesn't have a purpose in the creationist world. But it does fit in a world where evolution from a common ancestor is true.

>>512758558
yes. it is trivially easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plVk4NVIUh8

>>512767345
>That paper doesn't explain why the nerve would loop around the aorta.
It does. A human must be a fully functional organism from zygote to fully formed individual. Something your comment and para-conclusion does not take into account

>>512767345
So why haven't you read this paper before?

>>512766922
They've created a dog from a wolf. But those categories are meaningless really

>>512767168
How do you not understand such an obvious question?
Either learn English or get off the site.
>>512767264
Many species are able to cross-breed despite fitting the creationist model of being 'different kinds'.

>>512767168
Atheist doesn't mean materialist, imbecile

>>512753580 (OP)
Fucktarded design decisions are an argument for intelligent design, not evolution.
If evolution was actually real it would only converge on locally optimal solutions.

Technical debt is a thing that only happens with planned intelligent design.

>>512767501
Wolf and dogs can interbreed and produce fertile offspring. So they are variations and nothing more.

>>512754593
>Evolution works with the structures that exist
Your statement disproves evolution. If that were true, where did the first "structures" come from?

>Why would a creator intentionally create such a structure?
Obviously perfection isn't a design goal for our creator. If it were, we would be perfect floating spheres of metal instead of meat blobs.

>>512767384
e-coli evolved into e-coli through natural selection.
christcucks have no refutation. trust the science.

>>512767473
If you grow from a zygote then the place the heart develops is arbitrary and God could have had it start developing in a more efficient location, or have it housed and other important organs in locations that were more efficient regarding connection. Why should the brain and heart be located far apart from one another, for example?
Or simply had the heart develop in a way that avoided all extant important nervous connections. Because this is a trivial action for a deity.
>>512767496
Because it is worthless and doesn't actually dispute any part of the theory of evolution other than explain a process that is well understood and which is useful for demonstrating shared ancestry, but simply relies on saying, "and thats a good thing!", to shift perception.

>>512766746
They could move their tails out of the way or role over. Have you never seen lizards/snakes/crocodilians mate?

>>512767345
>>512767544
>>512767804
Are you OP or a new guy? Do you understand basic science?

>>512767905
> evolutitards understanding science
Lol no. They trust it, dumb fucks.

>>512767544
>How do you not understand such an obvious question?
What question did I not "understand"? Your comments are mainly incoherent drivel.

>>512767905
Do you understand anything?
Or will you continue asking asinine questions and repeatedly demonstrate illiteracy at understanding replies in plain English.

>>512768009
Shut the fuck up and answer my questions. Again:

1, Are you OP or a new guy?
2. Do you understand basic science?

>>512754269
God is a great engineer, truly

>>512768056
I understand the basics of evolution and how things like embryonic development are useful evidence for it. You don't understand anything about this topic and spam a single link to an article that you didn't understand and think you're making a point.
This is why Europoors don't deserve access to the Internet.

>>512767544
It's kind of disingenuous to say because .001% of interspecies combinations can have offspring together, the other 99.999% of cases aren't useful precedent to determine what is the same and what isn't.

>>512768216
Again you fucked up moron and dishonest deceiver:

1, Are you OP or a new guy?
2. Do you understand basic science?
3. Do you believe in the theory of evolution

I NUMBERED the questions for you idiot and still you couldn't answer, or would not. You are either too stupid or too dishonest to do that. Pathetic.

I added question number three as well. Answer them. All of the questions are Yes or No, even an idiot like you ought to be able to answer them.

>>512754637
Then why do people are born with both organs and why do hormones makes such powerful influences on our sexes?

>>512768216
4. What is your scientific background? Cartoons and a handful Dawkins YouTube videos? University of Mickey Mouse?

>>512755826
The species designation "homo sapiens sapiensjl" just means "humans thay are alive today". Its deliberately designed to obscure the fact that we are all homo sapiens, with varying degrees of Denisovan, Neanderthal, and mystery archaic African DNA.
Also, we all know species is a social construct with arbitrary limits. Those differences are much more pronounced when it comes to humans because of our superior cognition to other animals
We're as closely related to blacks as wolves are to coyotes, and that difference is even more important because we are humans. Not less.

>>512766880
Thank you for your question. Evolutionary theory predicts that adaptations originated from a 'random' (with respect to fitness) mutation that then was fixed in a population via natural or sexual selection or genetic drift. But scientists are discovering that adaptation is a regulated process, populations prefer to allow mutations that will prove useful and that entire populations can adapt very quickly, sometimes in just a few weeks.
Bacteria increase their mutation rate when under environmental stress and that within a bacterial colony 10% will become hypermutators and take a high-risk high reward strategy to search for useful mutations that will help them solve whatever environmental challenge they face. Organisms switch to different pre-programmed phenotypes depending on what is advantageous to them, not by 'random' mutation and natural selection. Adaptation is quick but hits a wall. https://scitechdaily.com/darwins-dilemma-paradox-of-stasis-lizard-study-challenges-the-rules-of-evolutionary-biology/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andreamorris/2024/06/14/evolution-may-be-purposeful-and-its-freaking-scientists-out/
The other main idea in the textbook version of evolution is the tree of life, all life should descend from a common ancestor. But it is proving impossible to trace evolutionary history. Looking at some genes tell scientists evolutionary history occurred one way but other researchers get conflicting results and the problem is only getting bigger, despite their coping
https://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/abstract/S0169-5347(09)00084-6
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-185X.2012.00240.x
>>512767345
There is a birth defect called non-laryngeal recurrent nerve where the nerve doesn't loop around the heart. Supposedly evolution couldn't do this but it does happen sometimes. People with non-laryngeal recurrent nerve can experience difficulty swallowing or a hoarse voice.

>>512770296
there is no Neanderthal y chromosome because Neanderthal never existed