>When we get power again, we're going to mass amnesty every illegal

It's facsinating that the Democrats are just completely mask-off anti-american. None of their policies even promise to help Amerians anymore, all of their policies only help non-Americans exclusively now.

https://x.com/Breaking911/status/1954611095324279257

>>512771937 (OP)
Didn't Texas wanted for years to secede?

>>512771937 (OP)
Yes… did you think you could dissolve the constitution and not think we would do the same in return?

>>512772138
Go ahead and dissolve the constitution, it's the only thing stopping us from killing you.

>>512771937 (OP)
It's amazing how they keep shooting themselves in the foot over losing issues like gun rights and immigrants. If they just focused on social policies they can win, just look at king nigger who ignored immigration, talked little about gun rights, and shilled universal healthcare.

this is why it was always retarded for republicans to pick this fight. your enemy is always going to fight back, and the democrats are more numerous and wealthier and control all of the centres of power. just like the first civil war.

>>512771937 (OP)
>mask-off anti-american

>>512771937 (OP)
Amazing that clowns like Beto get away with pretending to care about American workers while simultaneously promising to reopen the floodgates of cheap foreign workers that would immediately replace them or drive their wages down. Democrat voters truly are retarded as fuck.

>>512771937 (OP)
because they are commies and always have been, they were all simping for the Soviet Union for decades and when Russia abandoned communism they began hating Russia because of all of the kompromat they have on them. Now they are all owned by the CCP.

>>512771937 (OP)
based, fuck america

>>512772561
>muh commies
cold war called, it wants its bogeyman back

>>512772612
cold war ended, democrats are still commies.

>>512771937 (OP)
Yes it's basically the entire platform.

I'm convinced there's some pathological explanation for it. I think it's like those "Mouse Utopia" experiments. You load up the cities with millions of people and the hive makes an unconscious decision to destroy itself.

>>512772225
And yet... you still call him king nigger.
Democrats do fight for social issues, it's juat that the GOP don't want anyone non white to have their social issues addressed... why do Republicans keep hiding behind their veils, just go full mask off already and see how that works out for you. Otherwise you're just being sneaky subversive weasles at that point.

>>512772724
there is no such thing as Democrats or Republicans, they're all on the same team working towards the same goal. the commie bogeyman is tired boomer nonsense.

>>512771937 (OP)
>democrats think this is a winning platform
what the fuck is wrong with them?

>>512772850
whatever you say big brain.

>>512772138
Can you explain how the constitution was dissolved?

>>512772323
>just give up and let them win
no, you dumb fucking nigger

>>512771937 (OP)
Are they wrong?

>>512772434

>>512772323
Why are all australians so cucked consistently?

>>512772929
>the next time we win power
yes, he's wrong

>>512771937 (OP)

>>512772988
pretty sure its a CCP monkey

>>512772323
>just like the first civil war
Retard

Republicans want to replace jobs with AI.
Democrats want to replace jobs with immigrants.
There is no solution.

>>512772225
>losing issues like gun rights and immigrants.
The majority opinion in the US is that immigrants are fine -- an uncontrolled border is not fine. Your absolutist "KICK EM ALL OUT" approach has marginal and diminishing support. You've overplayed your hand in terms of public support. The scary part is that it might not matter because the only thing between Trump and literally ending our republic is a court on which he has at the very least two guaranteed votes on literally anything he does.

>>512771937 (OP)
>Democrats literally want to dissolve the United States
Wtf I love Democrats now

>>512773070
You are incredibly stupid and propagandized beyond belief

>>512773070
No, you're just a delusional reddit tranny, and you lost lol

>>512773019
DEMONCRATS destroyed! Drinking out of my liberal tears mug while reading this dank maymay. Dems are the real racists. Shadily, pede!

>>512771937 (OP)
Hopefully the American people continue to realize when they vote in 2028 that there's only one issue that matters and it's immigration

>>512771937 (OP)
We shpild be shooting these fuckers in the head, enough times to be sure they cant be resuscitated.

You really think the Democrats are defending illegal immigrants for no reason? No, this is all because your labor costs are too damn high. Without cheap labor... even if it's "illegal", your whole economy grinds to a halt.

Without immigrants, you'd be paying $25 for a burger flipped by some lazy white kid who quits after two weeks.

>>512771937 (OP)

>>512773258
you do not understand economics at all

>>512773175

>>512773301

>>512771937 (OP)
They haven't learned anything from their defeat. They think the issue was marketing, not repulsive policies. They actually believe, in their hearts, what Americans really want is a drug-filled crime ridden hellhole with no jobs, basically a Somalia stretching from coast to coast, total devastation, because that's the only way to get Whitey for the crime of dragging their black asses out of the stone age.

>>512773342
correct, you did lose, and you are a tranny

>>512772138
1pbtid ragebait.

>>512773342
How would your discord/reddit friends react to you posting a picture of a nigger as a negative?

>>512773420
Meanwhile, Indians (and Asians in general) far exceed white impact which is why they're excluded for making timmies feel bad....LOL

>>512772850
>Democrats and Republicans are controlled opposition
>Communists aren't
It's really so easy to spot you retards if you pay even the slightest attention.

>>512773171
>>512773175
>https://www.brookings.edu/articles/americans-are-changing-their-minds-about-trumps-immigration-policies/
The way it turns out, lots of people are easily taken in by a glib psychopath telling lies. Many who believe it at first are convinced that they were wrong after seeing the reality of what was promised.

>>512772859
Their entire endgame is completely dependent on breaking the political and economic power of the native population through demographic replacement, which would be better described as demographic dilution.
The Democrat "base" is this weird collection of unrelated minorities who hate each other, but who hate white Americans more. Individually they lack the power to do anything, so they act collectively. Simultaneously, they have to shrink the White American population and balkanize it into as many little interest groups as possible.
This is why they hate hate hate Donald Trump so much because he's the first politician in 50 years to come along and actually start reversing this trend. For the last 50 years, minorities have strictly voted along racial and religious lines, while whites voted based on things like policy and whether they thought the candidate was competent. Well, now whites are starting to vote along strictly racial lines and this fucking terrifies them.

>>512773366
>It's not the marketing
>spews a bunch of bullshit some right wing internet personality told them day in and out on multiple social media platforms.

>>512773325
Nope, I understand economics just fine. Oh no, I know it VERY WELL

You're the ones who don't get that without illegal immigrants, your country falls apart. Kick out every illegal immigrant tomorrow and watch your country collapse in real time. Fields go unpicked, crops rot, construction sites sit empty, restaurants shut down, and the first thing you'll notice is your rent skyrocketing because no one is building anything anymore.

Trash piles up in your streets because the real muh americans you worship won't touch a garbage truck for $20 an hour. Hospitals start turning people away because half their janitorial and support staff vanished overnight.

Within a month, you're paying $50 for a plate of fries, and the guy serving them to you is the same college dropout who complained on TikTok about "having to work"

>>512773640
No, you're just a fucking retard.
>>512773642
Yeah, leftists are fucking retarded.

>>512773070
>Your absolutist "KICK EM ALL OUT" approach has marginal and diminishing support. You've overplayed your hand in terms of public support
I absolutely guarantee when the Dems get their asses kicked in the midterms they are STILL going to double down like American culture has not made a significant turn to the right.

>>512773393
nice try sweaty

>>512773497
nigger

>>512773626
the fuck? I'm sure this sounded better in your head

>>512773721
everything you said is wrong and your waifu is shit

>>512773811
seethe harder faggot nigger, you still lost lol

>>512773345
Really hope those limey fuckers get their shit together, it's probably already too late but they need to make some effort.

>>512773666
Sorry faggot leaf, this is what ordinary Americans now understand. We rejected your leftist bullshit, should've boiled the frog slower :)

>>512773258
And why are labor costs so high? Does it have anything to do with policies?

>>512772896
He'a right and if you still don't see it then you're a fucking idiot.

>>512773860
you're a vantablack gorilla retard nigger projecting your ape stupidity on human beings, swarthoid. you're first up for TND spear-chucker

>>512773721
>HURR YOU NEED SLAVE LABOR OR YOU'LL BE POOR

Even if this were true (it isn't), I'd rather this country be poor and in debt but 80%+ white,
than rich but 40% white and full of crime and rapists.

You're a fucking retarded gook

>>512773530
>Meanwhile, Indians
If you're going to shill for other countries, make sure to exclude poojeets retard

>>512773826
Ha... Let me try again for the slow ones

Over 50% of America's farmworkers are undocumented. In states like California, it's closer to 75%. Remove them and your produce section turns into a luxury boutique overnight. Meatpacking? Same story. Construction? Forget it, your housing crisis will triple in a year.

In shory, You'll be living in a cardboard box bragging about how you "HAHA we saved America from illegals. REEEEEE!!"

>>512774031
>seething this hard
you lost, you retarded homosexual commie nigger

>>512774031
It's funny that you use nigger to try and fit in here but your allies would skin you alive if they knew you posted this

>>512774183
Hey, a expert on us economy in korea.
Did you go to school to become an expert?

>>512774183
No, you're just fucking retarded. Kicking out illegals lowers housing costs, because there are less people vying for the same amount of property, you retarded transsexual faggot.

>>512774167
Why can't Timmy contribute as much to his country as Pajeet can? Care to explain?

>>512774204
>you lost
keep repeating it maybe your balls will actually drop and you'll stop being an impotent faggot screeching about trannies on /pol/
protip: (You) won't

>>512773640
Oh no, a (((study))) says most Americans are against it! Heavens, we must think about what we are do--hahahahHAHAHAHA they SERIOUSLY think this shit will work again lmfaoooo

>>512773791
This isn't the "right" America is turning towards. It is turning "up," towards a governmental structure less accountable to its citizens, more controlled by elites, and with more violent rhetoric. This is what you voted for: a big strong reality TV host who can sell you the illusion of easy, targeted fixes to structural problems. The problems which were ultimately causal to your spinning down the extremist drain (e.g. income inequality, lack of work, rising prices) are only going to get worse. Elites are accumulating so much more wealth and power that they're starting to no longer pretend.

You fell for it; hook, line, and sinker. The internet has fucking destroyed you.

>>512773989
Lol you're gonna lose the midterms.

>>512774348
>projecting this hard
you cut your dick off lmao

>>512772090
If I really recall
They wanted independence from Mexico to keep them farm Equipment because slavery was illegal in Mexico.
Then they seceded from your Union, because the United States wanted to make slavery illegal.
Now, I am sure they still want to secede for... reasons I guess?

>>512774273
it's cute you think that I associate with those people be wise my opinions don't align with yours. it's not your fault though, you were failed by our education system. don't forget your helmet before you go to sleep tonight champ

>>512773997
Yeah, a lot of it's policy. Minimum wage laws push the baseline up, regulations make hiring more expensive, and in the US you've also got insane healthcare costs that bosses have to cover. Some states have strong unions too.

Plus, rent and living costs in big cities are stupid high, so wages gotta match. all that stacks up, which is why undocumented labor is dirt cheap in comparison

>>512772323
>this is why it was always retarded for republicans to pick this fight.
Moron. Democrats started this fight by accusing a sitting president of being a Russian agent for 4 years. And then arresting and trying to assassinate him.

Democrats started all this and then became unhinged psychopath extremists over illegals, trannies, and dei.

>>512774428
no, you're just a gay retard and you lost lol

>>512774437
topkek

>>512771937 (OP)
democrats: mass amnesty illegals
republicans: mass marriage and have lots of mutt kids with illegals

>>512774433
>All the Red States are gonna gerrymander
>Supreme Court is gonna rule against race-based districts
>Supreme Court is gonna rule on no illegals on the cenus
>Democrats are still pushing extremely unpopular policies

Not only will the midterms not be lost, but your economy will still crash, you will import another 2 million Indians before the year ends, and Alberta will become a territory

>>512771937 (OP)
In some ways I kinda have to agree with them desu, maybe US shouldn't be a singular country, US is like atleast 7 countries in one

>>512771937 (OP)
Beta O'Cuck should have stuck to poetry

Beto holds no power within the Democratic Party. Also Reagan did this already. The fact that this isn’t even the democratic position shows how far the Overton Window has shifted.

>>512774428
Yes yes yes, if we just vote Democrat one more time things will get better. Just one more time bro, just 10 million more Mexicans bro that's it bro please bro

>>512772910
They hurt his feelings

>>512774309
No, I was very interested in current affairs and economics and read many articles. Articles are a veritable treasure trove of knowledge.

>>512774433
When it doesn't happen you are still going to pretend your faggot culture isn't collapsing. Oh well, I'll enjoy the show

>>512774337
It is a mystery anon. These people are obviously all rocket scientists, the data you read could not possibly be wrong. Do not question the data saar

>>512774183

K.

>>512774625
Reagan gave amnesty to 2 million illegals.
Democrats want to give amnesty to over 30 million illegals.

No, this is not the same.

>>512771937 (OP)
So basically just how I predicted, that the Democrats would do exactly the same things that lost them the elections, but harder this time.

>>512774796
that's obviously pakistan you fake news pushing mayomonkey

>>512774796
Racist don’t want America to look like this why?

>>512774587
It's not up to you euro.

>>512773530
Is that why Indians are desperately trying to flee their failed country to any non Indian country?

Moron.

>>512772225
Democrats have reverse-intelligence, aka negative IQ. They are the children of the demons.

>>512774574
>more shitty talking points from Tim pool and Co.

The gop will lose the mid terms, for one, Maga and Republicans only seem to vote for large scale elections because they think they all live in an absolute democracy and are voting for a king.
Two, their approval rating is dropping daily because they fucking lied about almost everything.
The democrats aren't running on an unchecked border policy, they never did, their border policy was just too complicated for retarded conservatives to understand and don't even know that what biden and Co did actually made trumps immigration crackdown easier.

People are going to vote, doesn't matter what color they are.

>>512774895
Same thing.

>>512774796
so this is the true power of future doctors, lawyers and scientists

>>512774447
>the country doesn't agree with your opinions CHUD
>Uhhhh what do you mean I'm a leftist fuck you NIGGER
okay anon, I am sure more people agree with whatever political idealisms you personally hold

>>512774710
I haven't been wrong about these elections so far. And yes, I knew Trump was going to win both times he did.

>>512774997
>The gop will lose the mid terms
stopped reading there, you're fucking retarded and probably Indian

>>512774997
>People are going to vote, doesn't matter what color they are
What percent of blacks vote?
What percentage of whites vote?
Maybe color does matter in voting.

>>512772434
Liberals think it's election time 1.5 years prior to the midterms. Already the propagandaslop is starting.

>>512771937 (OP)
lol...is this their attempt at a populist candidate?

>>512771937 (OP)
But what bout the millions of poor natives in the US who cant even get employed right now? How in the fuck does adding 40 million new poor people make their lives better?

>>512773258
congrats retards, corporations won. turns out you all were bought and sold, and we arent returning to le epic based 1900s where everything was great. youre all retarded sheep who loaded the gun that's now pressed against your head, and your children will all suffer far more greatly than you.

>>512774183
Oh fuck, this sounds dire. I can't imagine how the fuck we functioned without infinite illegal immigrants before 2000 AD-- OH I'm sorry, I'm ACE, science forgive me. I now understand the error of my ways, we MUST fill these farm jobs with more undocumented Mexicans, otherwise my Tyson chicken strips will cost $10 instead of $5 oh noooooooooo

>>512774997
>Maga and Republicans only seem to vote for large scale elections
Yea? But the redistricting and rulings are gonna happen before midterms you fucking retarded Poo. So it doesn't even fucking matter.

>approval rating is dropping
So does every President's but Trump is still on a daily positive and is higher at this point than Obama and Biden. You're a fucking retard and Indian.

>The democrats aren't running on an unchecked border policy, they never did
You're a stupid fucking Indian and it's extremely embarrassing.

>>512773070
slimy jew hands typed this post

>>512774183
Farming corps literally get money if they hire spics over poor white people who simply want to make a living.

>>512774183
Democrats never stopped being the party of slavery.

>>512775097
>muh left
try not being a braindead direction-brain idiot. it helps a lot in not getting into left/right shit-flinging against people who hold no stock in the false paradigm.

>>512771937 (OP)
We should probably just be two countries instead of the one, neither half wants to live with the other and it's both want the other dead.

>>512775121
Well look here everyone! The faggot canuck leaf is never wrong. I guess we should all castrate ourselves and start importing Indians by the millions like our more sophisticated canucks!

>>512775308
Kek, well said anon.
It's amazing how canucks always think they know what's best for us when their own country is a fucking joke.

>>512774144
First, let's get one thing straight. Economic reality doesn't care about your racial purity fantasies. A wealthy society isn't necessarily one with a high percentage of white people, and a poor society isn't necessarily one with high crime rates

Once again, Illegal immigrants fill crucial jobs no one else wants, from farms to construction to service industries. Without them, food rots in fields, projects halt, and prices skyrocket, hitting everyone hard, This isn't making America greater, it's making America look small for the first time.

>>512775421
counter-proposal: we deport all the leftists to El Salvador

>>512775396
they are also exempted from minimum wage laws. farming has always been non-competitive economically, and in 2025 when there are more capitalist middlemen than ever in history, an entirely state run farming system is the only way to save america from disaster. you just cannot run farms with a profit motive as a society and expect anything other than exactly what has happened in the US.

>>512771937 (OP)
Doubling down on the Epstein List seemed to be working somewhat, why change tack?

>>512775403
Damn that's deep. Congrats for knowing the real story.

>>512775248
More like GOP bribed democrat. To convince democrats Texas is not democrat majority. Had seen that all over the SE states. I’m surprised 2/3 of the year is over and only 4 democrat politicians switched to Republican Party. My predictions turned out wrong. I was expecting far more from all the gaslighting behaviors.

>>512775479
>A wealthy society isn't necessarily one with a high percentage of white people, and a poor society isn't necessarily one with high crime rates
No, a nonwhite one is necessarily one with high crime rates. The first thing you said was ass trash too. Go back, you fucking reddit cancer.

>>512775421
lol

The right's country will be white and industrialized. The left's country will be brown and black full of illegals with constant race wars raging over who gets more gibs.

Do it.

>>512775308
>redistricting and rulings are gonna happen
Oh yea? And what will that do? Nothing.

>>512775228
There's more non white, non Christian voters in the US than there is.
The GOP has been highjacked, and they're starting to gain way too much attention for what they're planning on doing.
It's that simple.

>>512775299
for the regular working person, paying double for everyday goods is a problem. I understand if you're leeching off the system it's not a problem for you.

Beto said he would disarm the lower class as well.

I'm pretty sure he's meant to lose elections on purpose, like paid off by the Texas GOP.

>>512775513
>seemed to be working somewhat
it wasn't, it didn't move the needle at all, no one cares except people who already voted against Trump

>>512772734
That image is accurate. Liberalism is just contrarianism against the West, including against Christianity and Jews too. They don't give a shit about palestinians except that they use them as chess pieces against whites, and Jews who they see as the other white race.

>>512775573
how will the right industrialize without ending outsourcing and without mitigating the profit motives that killed domestic industrial production to begin with?

oh right, slave labor.

>>512773640

Dont trust the economist when it comes to honest answers about importing cheap labor.

>>512775600
>paying double for everyday goods
funko pops and dragon dildos are not "everyday goods", you colossal fucking faggot

>>512771937 (OP)
They learned nothing from 2024.

>>512772323
You do know that the Democrats were supporting the Confederacy right
Lincoln not deporting them all to Brazil was a mistake.

>>512773640
>Hillary will get 90% of the votes

>>512775504
counter-counter-point: all citizens expressing anti-Slsemitism will have their citizenship stripped and sent to CECOT instead

>>512775421
>be two countries instead of the one
One could argue the other side is ontologically evil and doesn't deserve to have its own country.

>>512775653
They did it before. They can do it again.

>>512775678
Course not, they aren't even sentient

>>512775677
you used food as an example which is an everyday thing, I don't care what sex toys you choose to pleasure yourself with

>>512775403
Dana Carvey looking rough.

>>512775573
>>512775653
Maybe we could just let you retards kill one another so the rest of us can move on?
Death to the DNC/GOP mafia, and death to all of you who pretend they're opposing sides rather than masks of the same horrible machine.
>>512775727
They both say that, I just want them to fuck off

>>512775479
What did you not understand about my post??

I'd rather the US be poor and white than Rich and fucking hispanic. It's that simple.
We could be the poorest country in the world as long as we're mostly white then nothing else matters. The moment you start importing browns it all goes to hell.

You literally don't have this problem, but maybe we should ship all of our illegals to South Korea so you can get this economy boost you so desperately want

>>512773070
No, people are sick and tired of extremely low quality foreigners they have to interact with everywhere. Like with fags you mistake tolerated with acceptance.

>>512774555

Newsome let harv fuck his wife though.

>>512775727
which side is NOT evil lmao

>>512771937 (OP)
yeah, but what about epstein ? it appears your foreign policy is largely controled by an israeli run pedo blackmail operation, that your president himself is in fact compromised - perhaps you should deal with that instead of trying to whip up more culture war dogshit to distract everybody.

>>512775582
>And what will that do? Nothing.
You clearly don't understand anything about the country so I'll accept your concession

>>512772612
ok, commie

>>512775635
Could have fooled me with the constant shilling here.

>>512775777
So your solution is to kill every leftist who is pushing for illegals?

>>512775600
That's crazy, how did we function before we had 20 million illegal immigrants driving wages down? I can't imagine how the economy must have worked when all those workers were paid more. Hmm, I better not think about it, it's probably nothing.

>>512775856
do you mean when our economy was completely different and we had a solid industrial base here?

>>512775757
America is the world's largest exporter of food you actual fucking retard nigger. You lost.

>>512775410
Oh, an enlightened centrist. Perhaps the only thing more pathetic than a leftist. Hello fence-sitting little fagbag, hope you enjoy the show sitting on your enlightened ass hahahahaha

>>512775736
its very quaint that you think the slavery will stop at your doorstep. the lines being drawn are not racial, they are wealth based. you will be working in the lithium mines too anon, and you have the same responsibility to reject that outcome as anyone of any race does. you are being used as a cudgel against your fellow man.

>>512775800
>which is NOT evil
Both sides are evil, especially because both sides bow down to jews. However one side literally thinks tranny kids exist so it's worse.

Democrats have literally taken over our cities and kicked us out over the past 100 years. They aren't playing around. It is a war of extermination for them. They aren't going to peacefully give up all the land they've been occupying for the past 50-75 years just because you said you want it.

>>512775299
Nice sarcasm, but let's get serious for a moment

The fact is, before 2000, agriculture and many labor intensive industries heavily relied on undocumented workers because domestic labor wasn't filling those roles.

It's not about politics or memes. it's about reality. If you want your chicken strips cheap and your produce fresh, you depend on these workers.

Ignore that and prepare to "pay way more" or face "empty shelves"

>>512775836
>left/right is fake and gay
>"okay but left bad right?"
>left/right is FAKE and GAY
>"but rightwingers-"
>FAKE AND GAY
>"the libtards will-"

HOW DO WE GET RID OF YOU

>>512775952
>be turbo leftists memeflag
>push for forced slavery
Top kek. Haven't changed in over 250 years.

>>512775829
it's the exact same faggots who spammed COCONUT MOMMY BRAT JOY for months on end, and we all know how that worked out

>>512775777
wasted get

>death to all of you who pretend they're opposing sides rather than masks of the same horrible machine

im not even sure if you think this applies to me or not, and frankly im afraid to ask. godspeed.

>>512775933
>we did it before, but we can't do it again, because... BECAUSE WE JUST CAN'T, OK????
you lost lol

>>512776015
>cant address the illegal alien question
This is why your argument falls apart.

>>512775946
okay? and what does that have to with being okay with double the price of everyday goods?

>>512775947
have fun falling for it again, and again, and again.

>>512771937 (OP)
I’m confused. If illegal immigrants working is what made America great why did they want to come here before that was common?

>>512775682
retard.

>>512776112
correct, the only constant is change. no matter how hard you wish your magical la-la land america isn't coming back.

>>512776125
Jesus you narrow-brained faggot, YES get rid of illegals! Fuck's sake the house is burning down and the roof has collapsed, but you're on about the fucking mailbox getting water damage.
THINK BIGGER, NIGGER

>>512776086
>frankly im afraid to ask
GOOD. Fuck you ALL

>>512776035
>pushed

i am anti-slavery. i am pointing out that stealing labor is the only avenue left to continue producing profit in a system where the middle men have middle men. either you allow the government to operate societally critical industries IE agriculture, manufacturing etc like china, or you give yourself death by 1000 cuts as every resource needed to produce goods that run society is price gouged to increase shareholder returns as people starve in the streets.

>>512776168
>FOOD IS AN EVERYDAY THING
>actually tariffs won't raise food prices, because America produces a food surplus
>W-WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING????
you lost faggot lmao

>>512771937 (OP)
And these retarded faggots wonder why they fucking lost and why people STILL fucking hate them

>>512776249
You're fucking retarded, that's why you're going to keep losing.

>>512775933
Okay anon, you've decided you're going to stick with 'the industrial base' as the reason why a racially homogenous society worked in the 60's but no longer works now. Go ahead, explain why prices were not bank-breakingly high in produce then but have to be now

>>512774555
threesome with mrs newcome sounds more fun to me than poking a sofa, or even worse, a stinky jeet

>>512776278
>take the retard 3 posts to answer a simple question
This is why you're not taken seriously
>>512776296
>wall of text nobody is reading
top kek leftoids never change

>>512776309
report back to me on in-store prices in two weeks

>>512776348
sneed

>>512773811
>the fuck? I'm sure this sounded better in your head
Of course you're confused, if you understood the mistake you made you wouldn't have made it.

Let's examine your premise.

Communism is a a "bogeyman according to you
In your modlel of reality, or at least the model of reality you want us to accept, communists don't play a part in things. Which implies that you adhere to the modern progressive Democrat narrative that downplays the influence of Marxist ideology on the American political landscape. Then you proceed to seemingly contradict this position by claiming that both Democrats and Republicans are controlled opposition.
Controlled by who?
Certainly not the Jews, or you wouldn't dismiss Communism as a bogeyman, since a key component of the narrative that Jews are a hidden force is recognizing their use of communism asa stalking horse.

So then controlled by who?
The illuminati? Free masons? No even that narrative acknowledges that communism exists as more than just a Cold War bogeyman to scare boomers.
Who does that leave?
Either you believe they're controlled by aliens or they're controlled by capitalists and I'm pretty sure you're not here trying to warn us about the reptilian menace.

Which makes you a communist.
To you communists are either not REAL communists and are merely bogeyman or they are actual genuine Communists that are not controlled opposition. The idea that communism was more than a bogeyman during the Cold War and was actually a controlled opposition group is never suggested by you as an option because you actually believe that there were Communists actually working against the people controlling the American political machine.

The only political narrative that dismisses the threat of communism is the narrative of communism, ergo the fact that you refuse to acknowledge the threat communism poses or even historically posed makes you a communist.

>>512771937 (OP)
Surely this will help them win.

>>512773721
Why would new house need to be built if millions and millions of people just left? And I am already poor, America is rich not her citizens

>>512776428
>t-two more weeks...
lol, lmao, roflmfao tbqh

>>512775582
>what they're planning on doing.
It's that simple.
And what is that exactly? Fill us in.

>>512776442

>>512776249
I remember 2016-2019, when fast food workers' pay double and the price of a McDonald's meal fell to half of what it is now

>>512773721
You've been brainwashed into believing the absolute dumbest blackpilled propaganda.

>>512771937 (OP)
They want to embolden all of the for now useful eaters on their paradigm and make them righteous zealots under (their) control by making the average joe the hero saving America from those blatantly evil democrats. Lmao

>>512774950
Its true though, american is a meaningless term nowdays, it means absolutely nothing, every ethnic group on the planet lives in the US, nothing unites you exept a sociopathic ruling class

>>512775403
Yeah...2bh...you could say it's kind of like slavery.... but what else can you expect? Wages are high, people expect a lot, and businesses can't find workers willing to do the jobs. So yeah, someone's gotta do it, and it ends up looking like modern day slavery.

Are you really gonna stand out there in 40°C heat, sweating your ass off, picking apples for pocket change?

In america you can choose one of two parties (choose wisely, goy-man!)

#1 pro israel, israel first, jew first, removes 1st and 2nd amendments, h1-b jeetfest where we sell off all the public land to other jews and implement taxes while lying to you and putting women in pantsuits in charge

#2 no borders, anti-white, pro-jew, pro-israel (but pretends not to be), removes 2nd amendment while dismantling first, spends extra time removing 2nd amendment, sells contracts to other jews while lying to you and putting women in pantsuits in charge

>>512776719
Is that why the entire world wants to immigrate to America and why you use American websites every day?

>>512776652
has it doubled again and does a mcdouble cost that now?

>>512776751
Gm :3

>>512776686
you're literally brown

>>512776565
They want to turn the US unto a theocracy. It's turning into a blood and soil movement.

>>512772801
> Democrats do fight for social issues
Yea like making lists of the whitest counties in the nation so they can flood them with section 8 niggers and immigrants.

>>512776751
>democrats haven't changed in over 250 years and are still the party of forced slavery
Correct.

>>512776842
>It's all about race.
Yes thank you for proving my point. Everything has become about some racial issue for the GOP now. And it's not hard to hide anymore.

>>512772910
Its called the 13th amendment

>>512776776
no, they want to immigrate to america because america puts them before americans. everyone knows that including them.

if you're a jeet, you can come here and immediately claim dei gibs and never be without pay ever again. just claim racism and you'll have white people on the ground kissing your feet.

>>512776901
>the GOO
Idiot.

>REEEEEEE, WE NEED OPEN BORDERS TO KEEP PRICES LOW
fuck off, faggot

>>512776864
I would say you're wrong but you have FDR, WW, Andrew Jackson, more recently Bidet or whoever was running that mess.

>>512771937 (OP)
where did this astroturf fuck come from and who is funding him? He constantly proves that the Irish were the original anchor babies and that the Brits are absolutely correct and based for treating them like a colony full of wogs

>>512771937 (OP)
>>When we get power again, we're going to mass amnesty every illegal

We're being pre-conditioned for this. Trump is using the Presidency to it's max. The left will return the favor. Over the years these swings are undeniably getting more extreme and violent. From a completely objective view, not from the perspective of a Leftist or MIGAtard.

>>512777161
Robert Francis O Rourke insult to Irish everywhere not just Ireland but those who came legally here. You really want a mindspin try reading his book Cult of The Dead Cow- no that isn't a typo.

>>512776776
I dont understand what you're trying to convey with this post? Yeah they move in because they see its easy to exploit America due to the lack of cohesiveness in the population, I'm just saying that in the modern day american is a meaningless identity, you can be of any ethnic group, believe in anything you want or be whatever, there is zero commonality between americans which is why its a meaningless term to describe people imo

>>512776864
Forced...?? Who told the undocumented workers to do it at gunpoint?

The solution is actually simple, just get paid half your current wage and do the work yourselves. But sure, you guys glued to TikTok in your bedrooms won't be doing that anytime soon. Meanwhile, undocumented immigrants don't even get legal protections, making them easy to exploit.

Like it or not, the capitalist empire(you) survives by exploiting undocumented workers as slaves with money. And prices are kept low because Chinese factories make everything cheaply. If you don't like it, go ahead and pay $40 for a burger and $5,000 for an iPhone

>>512777490
you're fucking retarded

>>512777603
Medicine is bitter after all

>>512777490
>male slave labor even cheaper
Damn you're terrible with ideas.
Just deport the illegals. Does your country have 20% illegals picking apples? No and neither should ours.

>>512776373
because your homogenous daydream no longer exists, thanks to decades of neoliberalism. and yes, it was an industrial base that made that possible. I mean unless you think the farmers were taking the goods to market themselves.

>>512777675
>>512777695
you lost, tranny

>>512777754
k

>>512777821
>stage 5: acceptance

>>512777420
>Cult of The Dead Cow
I'm old, I remember that hacking group. So he was a part of it? That tracks they were leftist anarchists. Anyways hopefully he wanders into Ciudad Juarez to be with his adopted people

>>512777873
cool story bro

>>512775965
I like how even you put "pay way more" and "empty shelves" in quotations, because you know it's complete and total horseshit. Oh well, I guess we'll just all starve. We literally CAN'T run farms without Mexican slaves, it definitely was never done by white people before. No stop don't look up racial demographics before the Hart Cellar Act no stooooop please you're destroying my narrative nooooooo

>>512771937 (OP)
The democrats with no "betto" ideas left they wobbled out beto sanders to keep the money flowing.

>>512777695
Got it, so your answer is just to repeat the phrase 'industrial base' because you had no plan on how you were going to elucidate. I think I'm just going to support removing more illegal immigrants, if you have a cogent argument feel free to present it before the thread 404s however.

>>512778217
retarded frogposter is retarded.

>>512775965
>It's not about politics or memes. it's about reality
Yeah, reality proves you wrong.
No, Canada doesn't have 20% of its population filled with illegals aliens that pick crops.
No, Japan doesn't have 20% of its population filled with illegals aliens that pick crops.
No, France doesn't have 20% of its population filled with illegals aliens that pick crops.

You're extremely low IQ and your smoothbrain can only resort to "import browns for slave labor"

>>512778034
I get it, you love your Mexican slaves narrative, but here's the deal, the past and present aren't the same. Back before the Hart-Celler Act, wages were way lower, working conditions were brutal, and fewer alternatives existed. Today, American wages are much higher, and domestic workers refuse to do backbreaking labor for low pay.

That's why farms rely on undocumented workers willing to take these jobs

>>512778300
no, he's right, and you're a gay retard nigger

>>512772491
amazing you say that in defense of the party that gave them amnesty because "americans can't/wont do those jobs"

>>512778300
Feel free to prove your own argument at any time anon

>>512772225
> look at king nigger who ignored immigration, talked little about gun rights
What the fuck are you talking about? He pushed for amnesty for years. Did you completely forget about DACA? Did you also forget about Sandy vag? King nigger tried for damn near 2 years for another AWB. Just because it didn’t make it through doesn’t mean he didn’t try.

>>512777490
Starvation and homelessness is a big motivator to work. And they get paid as little as possible because they're illegal so everything is under the table and there is no legal recourse.

The irony is slaves were treated better than illegals, better living conditions, better food, and for most of them, a long healthy life.

>>512778490
So your entire argument is that every country has to have slave labor to pick crops.

You are incredibly stupid.

>>512778513
nope he's wrong and you're a cocksucking faggot

>>512778575
not an argument

>>512779028
nah that's you

>>512778997
are you saying democrats are worse than slave traders?

>>512779061
Neither is 'retarded frogposter detected' when asked what you mean by "industrial base," I guess we will both have to forever wonder what you meant (because you have no idea yourself)

>>512778341
Saying other countries don't have the same situation doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist here.

The America has a unique agricultural system that relies heavily on seasonal, labor-intensive work few Americans want to do. Countries like Canada, Japan, and France have different labor markets, immigration policies, and farm sizes.

It's not about "importing browns", it's about filling jobs no one else will take. It looks like modern day slavery because you guys won't do the damn work. Like I said, if you don't like browns, just go work 10 hours a day in 40°C heat for less than half the wage, then problem solved

>>512779473
Well I mean they were the ones who advocated for it and there was no party switch

>>512771937 (OP)
Might as well dissolve it since all politicians allowed to be pushed through fake news or real news are pedophiles.

>>512779075
>>512779509

>>512779592
no one will take them because they have to compete with the slave labor prices of illegals, you circular-logic arguing Godless fucking retard nigger

>>512779592
Just automate crop picking and farming. Problem solved.

>>512773530
you do not get to lump yourselves in with orientals, ranjeet
you are a dysgenic mongrel carrying unknown ghost hominid dna like sub-saharan africans

>>512779473
Yes, I think they're morally the same as the most brutal slave masters that beat their slaves and raped their children for kicks.

>>512771937 (OP)
>presidential candidate
>taking the Lord's name in vain


Is this the gay one? Is he trying to get a special seat in Hell?

>>512779662
I have more smug anime girls than you, you can't win.

>>512771937 (OP)
Yea we do, let us out

>Bring people in to your country illegally
>Say you are going to do nice things to them and give them free things
>they vote for you
Genious plan?

>>512777873
Yes it's a miracle that you have reluctantly accepted that trannys are real.

>>512779867

>>512772612
>Says the party who calls every Republican a Nazi

>>512778490
>Back before the Hart-Celler Act, wages were way lower, working conditions were brutal, and fewer alternatives existed.
Back becore the Hart-Celler act Americans had FAR more buying power per dollar than they do now. Sure, they might have made masser number amounts, but their dollars went over 200% further than they do today.

>look you don't understand we just NEED to let jews have slaves okay?
shalom rabbi

Jesus Christ, Democrats are still retarded Jews.

How about, when you get in power, stop arming Israel, put Trump in prison, rebuild the government, and invest in USA energy infrastructure and food production???

>>512779007
Dude.... it’s not just about farms. I TOLD IT

Farms are just one example. Without undocumented workers, your restaurants wouldn't have enough staff, so expect long waits or closures. Construction sites would grind to a halt — no one to build your houses or fix your roads. Hospitals would struggle as many janitorial and support jobs go unfilled. Also garbage piles up because those americans won't work for less than $20 an hour, so the streets get flooded with trash.

Understand? The whole service industry would collapse without these workers. So yeah, it's way bigger than just crops. If you think the economy only needs slave labor on farms, you're missing the entire damn forest for the trees.

>>512780178
I'm not a Democrat nor a shitlib lmfao

>>512779007
American workers fought to have specific jobs and fields give liveable wages.
But in todays world fighting for workers rights in America is communism and tranny leftist stuff.

So either you accept your cheap Mexicans or shut up because no one buys the conservatives actually singing the songs of coal miners and factory workers woes.

>>512780188
bigger number amounts

>>512773065
Immigrants at least pay taxes or make their products cheap for the aberage american.
The tech companies and big data dont pay taxes and their products are a) expensive, b) condumes ressources like water from the citizins or c) makes you their product.

>one person says thing
>"ALL DEMOCRATS WANT TO DO THAT THING"

>>512780245
>Without undocumented workers, your restaurants wouldn't have enough staff
You're incredibly dumb. You bought the propaganda that everywhere is illegal aliens.

>>512771937 (OP)
>democrats literally want to di...
Yeah I'd say that's accurate
>ssolve the united states
Oh

>>512776751
Well in a normal sane world the offered wage would increase until someone takes it. The native population can handle any task needed but nobody is willing to torture themselves for pennies. Immigrants are incredibly devastating on all levels, except decreasing labour cost for employers. Standard of living very evidently nosedives and society degrades because it’s no longer homogenous. All of this can be avoided if we simply let employers take a temporary hit as the market regulates itself. If employers can’t pay apple pickers, apples aren’t picked the price of apples increases until the employer can afford wages.

>>512780366
you lost, tranny

>>512780288
>But in today's world fighting for workers rights in America is communism and tranny leftist stuff.
Fighting for workers rights is what republicans are doing by removing foreign nationals and lowering taxes. Democrats are anti workers rights by removing the employment of Americans in place of slave labor.

>>512779662
Copying that picture. I likes it.

>>512772434
Nooo the heckin sugar water!

>>512780366
Oooooh YES YES (sarcasm).

>>512774895
Saar the one next door ain't us sarrr we just look identical sarrr!

>>512771937 (OP)
This is nothing new. Neither is the fact that we have to live with them in our society and give them one opportunity after another to do evil and retarded shit like this because the other side which is controlled oppostion says we have to take the moral high road while both sides constantly lie and cheat and steal.

>>512779867
Ehhh she’s blushing in this one.

>>512780608
this is the fucking truth, they'd slam the brakes in that h1b bullshit if they did give 2 squirts of piss about the worker

ONE american unemployed is too much before allowing slave labor in my land

>>512780790
Agree. And sell out to the highest bidders. 2010s - Soros. 2020s - Jews, republicans, TechBros.

>>512780673
save it, it's all yours my friend

>>512774428
>It is turning "up," towards a governmental structure less accountable to its citizens, more controlled by elites, and with more violent rhetoric
You absolute gorilla retard nigger. The Biden administration was unaccountable to its citizens (as evidenced by that retarded ape press secretary Karen Jean-Pierre lying out her ass every day). The Biden administration was controlled by elites like Bezos, Gates, Clooney, Fink, and of course Soros. The Biden administration spent four years calling massive inflation "transitory". And the Democrats are responsible for all the antifa violence, assaults on law enforcement, and two assassination attempts on Trump. Who has a red cap murdered recently, except you in debate?

>>512773640
I cannot believe anyone treats a “study” with any seriousness in the current year anymore. You’re perpetually stuck in the early 2010s. You’re like a millennial who’s a boomer, completely out of touch with reality and the wants/demands of the current world. You’re officially uncool and no longer the counter culture, gramps

>>512780608
That's not fighting for the workers rights, that's just a bandaid appease the workers.

The new deal was a pro workers movement. Are Republicans going to do anything like that? Fuck no. Because
>DAS SOCIALIBSMMM

>>512781040
you're gay as fuck and also Canadian, but I repeat myself

>>512772323
>give up and accept defeat
No. That mindset explains the covid camps you had

>>512780975
Thanks you!

>>512780384
You think it's just "propaganda"???? lol

GOOD, LET'S LOOK AT THE FACTS

According to the Center for Migration Studies, there are approximately one million undocumented immigrants working in the U.S. restaurant industry.

These workers play a crucial role in both front-of-house and kitchen positions. Without them, many restaurants would face significant staffing shortages, leading to reduced service levels, limited hours, or even closures.

The National Restaurant Association has highlighted that over 1 million jobs in the food service and hotel industries remain unfilled, with nearly one in three restaurant operators reporting insufficient staff to meet customer demand.

SO IT'S NPT FUCKING PROPAGANDA

it's the reality of the industry's reliance on undocumented labor

>>512778490
Wow, so farmers must have been poor as shit before the Hart Cellar Act. You should go ahead and prove that by pulling up the average wage of a farmer and compare it to the average wage of an American. I bet the results will surprise you!

>>512772612
>cold war called, it wants its bogeyman back
to be old enough to have seen things come to pass now is not fun. When little were fed a constant script in history class once a year. McCarthy! McCarthyism! He just invented the red scare and commies in all the institutions! It was a cheap political scare tactic, to grab power! Why he scapegoated people!
>
Really. Now I have leftist democrats bragging *openly* how they took the long march through the institutions and the positions to control media. McCarthy? Was fucking RIGHT! There really WERE commies training at the "Franklin" or "Frankfurt" school. Doing exactly what McCarthy said they were doing, all this time!
>
When it becomes a group activity to deal with the problem someone send me an email.

>>512773070
> "KICK EM ALL OUT" approach has marginal and diminishing support.
Maybe in your head faglord

>>512781172
Yes, it is just propaganda. To display your point, you are saying there are one million undocumented migrants in the restaurant industry. There are far, FAR more natives working in the restaurant industry. How do the restaurants that don't have illegal immigrants able to stay in business, then? Logically, all of them should have to adopt illegal immigrants in order to maintain margins. Are the other ones running on magic pixie dust?

>>512781111
You know I'm right boomer. Fuck off with your cheap Jewish tricks of
>muh trickle down
>look everyone! Ohhhhh lower taxes!!

>>512781040
the new deal is VERY literally the beginnings of the administrative state that is terrorizing everyone today, you piece of shit kike communist

>>512771937 (OP)
It dissolved with the conclusion of the civil war. What remained was the Federal State of Globohomo and every we have today is downstream of that.

>>512772090

It's funny to remember that Texas actually fought two civil wars for the sake of slavery.

>>512781184
>You should go ahead and prove that by pulling up the average wage of a farmer and compare it to the average wage of an American.
He won't. He'll just keep regurgitating the same doomsayer BS over and over and over.

>>512774316
>sell it cheap just to get rid of it
gonna be wild when those days are here

>>512774445
No, actually, Texas seceded because the border was completely open. Prior to independence, everyone and everything in Texas was Mexican. But, if you look at the names of the heroes of the war, none of them were Mexican. They were all from the US.
After independence, something like 25% of Texas was from the US.

>>512781497
See you retards don't even know what you want for your own fucking country.
You say migrant workers are literal slaves in some hyperbolic rant, and then shit on ideas that actually got America fucking working!

Your free markets won't save you.

>>512781184
Yes, natives(YOU, not naitves americans) make up a large portion of restaurant workers, but the key is that undocumented workers fill the gaps no one else wants to take.

The industry has long suffered from labor shortages because many natives refuse low wages, irregular hours, and physically demanding work.

Restaurants without undocumented workers survive by raising prices, cutting hours, or reducing service, no magic pixie dust.

Without them, many restaurants would either close or dramatically raise prices. it's like trying to run a car without gas or a phone without a battery.

>>512781645
i remember when i was like you, zoomer

>its the rich people, its muh republicans baaaad

you'll grow out of it, kid.

>>512781366
Yes, natives(YOU, not naitves americans) make up a large portion of restaurant workers, but the key is that undocumented workers fill the gaps no one else wants to take.

The industry has long suffered from labor shortages because many natives refuse low wages, irregular hours, and physically demanding work.

Restaurants without undocumented workers survive by raising prices, cutting hours, or reducing service, no magic pixie dust.

Without them, many restaurants would either close or dramatically raise prices. it's like trying to run a car without gas or a phone without a battery.

>>512771937 (OP)
Leftoids are the enemy of the human race.

>>512780366
Pretty much all Democrats want to stop deportation of illegal immigrants. Any voices that try to speak contrary are quickly silenced. Maybe you should pick a new party if you're against illegal immigration, just a thought.

>>512781497
>the new deal is VERY literally the beginnings of the administrative state that is terrorizing everyone today, you piece of shit kike communist

Lol, yeah "FDR DID ICE BLAME HIM"

Conservatives are so goddamn head-up-their-ass scientology-level reality-denying morons. Like, Jesus Christ you idiots. Go read a book or something.

>>512781903
>>>512780366
>Pretty much all Democrats want to stop deportation of illegal immigrants. Any voices that try to speak contrary are quickly silenced.

Well except for, eg, Barack Obama, who deported all kinds of immigrants. But I know, reality's tough. Be brave.

>>512781819
no they would have to adjust their prices if anything

and you conveniently leave out the part that every single wetback is on disability and welfare for some reason, while their little wetbacklings are dumped in our schools and sucking up money from there

>>512781819
>Restaurants without undocumented workers survive by raising prices, cutting hours, or reducing service, no magic pixie dust.
So it sounds like the restaurant industry does in fact NOT need illegal immigrants to function, since most restaurants function just fine without them. Does this not defeat your entire point? Illegals are by no means necessary for the system to function. Maybe if you thought half as much about your argument as you do which retarded anime image you would have a better platform to stand on.

>>512781819
Even if that were true (it isn’t) idc. Let them go out of business and starve. Why should the rest of us suffer immigrants for their greed?

>>512780366
>>one person says thing
>>"ALL DEMOCRATS WANT TO DO THAT THING"

Yes. All democrats essentially believe the same thing.

With the Right, there are many different viewpoints and they can all coexist.

On the Left, you have to side with the most extreme in the room or you will be outcasted and they will eat you alive/ruin your life.

So yes, if 1 Democrat says something extreme, all the others will hop on that train out of fear and/or conformity.

>>512781945
yeah, kid, sure. muh republicans baaaad.

>>512781184
Yeah but comparing raw wages doesn't capture the full picture. farmers might have been paid less before the Hart-Celler Act, but that was a different time with harsher labor conditions and fewer regulations.

Today american wages are much higher and labor laws stricter, making it unrealistic to expect native workers to do the same hard, low-paid farm work.

Plus, mechanization hasn't replaced all labor, so undocumented workers fill essential roles that no one else wants.

>>512781758
>its the rich people, its muh republicans baaaad
Those are your words not mine.
I don't give a fuck who is in power or if rich people exist, I'm a working class man, who wants what's best for working people, if rich people or Republicans get in my way, then that's gonna become an issue with me.

But you can't sit there with a straight fucking face and tell everyone that the current administration is actually for the working class when they haven't done fuck all except go on Witch hunts and give a false sense of winning with shitty tax breaks.

>>512782052
The Democrats are progressives and in the past they werent. You just now figured that out retard?

>>512782052
Oh, we're going to pretend like it's 2008? I thought we were in 2025 right now when Democrats universally push for illegal immigration --hence the topic retard-- but maybe you just wanted to have a comfy larp session.

>>512782225
theres no such thing as the poor farmer in patchwork coveralls, those days have been gone for decades. its all corporate and small business

>>512781758
Thats funny

>>512782153
Sure, some restaurants manage without undocumented workers by hiking prices or cutting hours, but that's exactly the problem. The higher prices hit customers wallets, and reduced hours or service mean less availability and quality. So yes, the system can function, but at a much higher cost to everyone.

That's not "functioning fine" that's surviving on sacrifice and inconvenience. Even, that might work for big, well-funded restaurants, but what about the small mom and pop spots?

For them, it means massive closures and layoffs. If you want America to fall apart, I've got nothing more to say

>>512782225
Nobody wants those jobs because they pay poorly. If they paid more, Americans would take them. Costs would rise, but Americans would be paid more on average so the prices would normalize after a short time as a comparison to the American budget. You are going to continue walking in circles like a retard because you're just here to post your retarded anime pictures, so I'm just gonna lead you to the finish line.

>>512781172
>The National Restaurant Association has highlighted that over 1 million jobs in the food service and hotel industries remain unfilled, with nearly one in three restaurant operators reporting insufficient staff to meet customer demand.
>
*ahem*
...insuffucient staff to meet current demand AT CURRENT PAY AND WORK ENVIRONMENT WE OFFER.
Fixed it for you.
See that's the idea. We don't have slavery here and with a constant supply of cheap labor nothing changes. You want that position filled? Do it *legally* and yeah you might have to bump pay and how to treat employees up a notch.

>>512782684
Anon...the idea that simply raising wages will solve everything is naive. Many of these jobs aren't just low-paid, they're grueling, dirty, and involve long, unpredictable hours that few Americans want. Even if you raise wages, the labor pool won't magically appear overnight.

Employers would face skyrocketing costs and might automate or offshore jobs instead, leading to job losses. So, no, it's not as simple as just “pay more and people will show up

If someone asked you to carry and stack bricks for over 10 hours tomorrow in 40°C heat, and get paid less than half the normal wage, could you do it?

>>512771937 (OP)
yeah this is exactly what I am afraid of, the next time dems get power they are going full mask of totalitarianism and will destroy whats left.

The hypocrisy is off the charts and will result in millions of deaths and the balkanisation of america if it is not stopped

>>512781540
>It dissolved with the conclusion of the civil war. What remained was the Federal State of Globohomo and every we have today is downstream of that.
hat was part one. Part two was after WW2, they just left the wartime powers act in place in perpetuity. Final part three came when they "incorporated" states into groups and legally used a parks and recreation law to do it. This was right before 64 when they gutted the silver in the coins. When world war 2 was over and finally paid off? There was this vast pool of MONEY growing and no legal way to get their hands on it. That was the way to do it. Gov't assumed the same powers of taxation and wartime powers in ww1, but they dissolved afterwards. After ww2, they left it in place.

>>512783204
>Anon...the idea that simply raising wages will solve everything is naive. Many of these jobs aren't just low-paid, they're grueling, dirty, and involve long, unpredictable hours that few Americans want. Even if you raise wages, the labor pool won't magically appear overnight.
You are genuinely an idiot if you think that the jobs these illegals are doing are the only ones in America that are dirty and grueling. It is literally as simple as paying more. Americans did it before less than 2 generations ago. To your point:

>If someone asked you to carry and stack bricks for over 10 hours tomorrow in 40°C heat, and get paid less than half the normal wage, could you do it?
Americans do this job, with American wages, right this very second.

Go ahead retard, let's see retarded anime image #48.

>>512783041
Yeah, "insufficient staff" is at the current low pay and awful work conditions. Raising wages and improving treatment sounds good in theory, but good luck finding enough willing native workers for these tough jobs even then.

The system relies on undocumented workers precisely because most Americans won't do these roles at any reasonable pay. (I think I've said this about 10 times already) Without them, costs skyrocket, and many businesses fold or automate, no magic fix, just harsh reality

>>512782633
>Sure, some restaurants manage without undocumented workers by hiking prices or cutting hours, but that's exactly the problem. The higher prices hit customers wallets, and reduced hours or service mean less availability and quality. So yes, the system can function, but at a much higher cost to everyone.
If it were such a higher cost that it is unbearable those restaurants would not exist. Yet they do. Thus your entire argument is completely invalid, and the only restaurants using illegal labor are doing so specifically to make more profit rather than make enough to function. I would say I accept your concession, but I know you will respond with yet another moronic anime girl picture

>>512782225
>Plus, mechanization hasn't replaced all labor, so undocumented workers fill essential roles that no one else wants.
every "farmer family" I know personally has a million or more in property and a million or so tied up in equipment and sully and upkeep. Maybe the owner could stand not being a multimillionaire, and settle for being just a lowly illionaire if he had to pay for real labor. Helping farm work is ball busting nigger work. Do it yourself or crack open the checkbook. That goes for restaurant owners or farm owners, fuck everyone. I'm not immune as a poor asshole either. I want my grass cut? I have to pay 50 bucks or do it myself. Five minutes of help carrying something? Young kid wants a twenty dollar bill for his five minutes.

>>512783204
>and get paid less than half the normal wage,
I would not do it. If I were properly compensated then I would do it. It's funny how a couple years ago every Democrat was bleeding out the ass about doubling minimum wage and damn the consequences, but now that it's Whites demanding a fair wage for labor it's gonna collapse the economy.

>>512783543
>The system relies on undocumented workers precisely because most Americans won't do these roles at any reasonable pay.
It's not considered reasonable because the system has adopted the use of slave labor and it has been tolerated for decades. Do you seriously believe that every first-world nation has to have illegal immigrants to work their farms?

>>512783512
You're ignoring that decades ago, fewer regulations and different economic conditions made those jobs more viable for native workers.

Today's labor laws, safety standards, and cost of living have changed everything.

Sure, some Americans do those jobs but many more refuse, and the labor shortage is real. Don't pretend it's just about muh "paying more" like it's some easy fix

>>512773258
I would pay $25 a burger if all spics were gone. Easily worth the trade.
>implying Mexicans are hard workers
They’re lazy unless you’re on their ass constantly. Doing shitty jobs for low pay doesn’t mean you are a hard worker.

>>512783543
>but good luck finding enough willing native workers for these tough jobs even then.
You don't get it. Those native workers? Are *legal* workers. You pay what you have to pay to get workers legally? Or you close your doors. Simple as that. You have this weird notion that if you phrase it politely enough, what is convenient for (you) is wht should happen. Fuck you. The *illegals* will c0ontinue to *go*, more will not come. You will pay more and treat employees better? Or you wash your own dishes and pick your own cotton. I don't care who goes under. Adapt.

>>512783718
Ah, sorry, that sentence was my mistake. What I meant was, since some American posters keep saying that if you just raise wages people will do the jobs, I was asking if you'd really work in those tough conditions even if you got a normal wage. The part about "half the wage" was my error, my bad hahaha...

>>512773640
You can think he’s been “too harsh” while also acknowledging that the Democrats being for complete open and uncontrolled borders is worse. That’s what you faggots don’t understand. For a lot of average people it’s not that they like Trump or want to kick all foreigners out, but that they’ll accept that over open borders.

I can think that McDonald’s is overpriced garbage quality food but I’d still prefer that over Indian street slop.

>>512783841
Americans refuse those jobs because the pay is very low. There are tens of thousands of Americans fighting over jobs this very moment, the reason they do not select these jobs is because pay and benefits are not commensurate with the work done, unless you are an illegal immigrant whose money once sent home IS. There is no way you can argue that the largest economy in the history of humanity cannot afford to pay its own natives to work its jobs when it did so less than sixty years ago. There are no barriers to entry produced by higher regulation and there are no 'economic conditions' that stop farms from being able to pay American farmers decent wages once illegals are removed from the equation.

Let's see the next moron anime girl image

Alright, this thread will be closing soon. My point is that the U.S. is currently sustained by the illegal labor of undocumented immigrants, and if they were deported, the country would collapse. Even if wages were raised as you want, regular Americans still wouldn't work in those kinds of conditions, so simply raising pay won't bring about the world you're imagining.

See you in the next thread on a similar topic!

>>512773721
> and the first thing you'll notice is your rent skyrocketing because no one is building anything anymore.
How does rent increase when there’s millions and millions of vacant apartments and rented houses?
>Trash piles up in your streets because the real muh americans you worship won't touch a garbage truck for $20 an hour.
Trash trucks are almost all white guys. You literally sit and drive all day and the arm collects the trash bin. You don’t even get out. It’s an easy job.
>Hospitals start turning people away because half their janitorial and support staff vanished overnight.
Why would hospitals be unable to function if janitors aren’t there? Pay people more and they’ll mop floors.

>>512784319
Yes we should all listen to the random fag from across the world who's country will collapse from a dying population

Again we're gonna flood your country with Mexicans since you love them so much have fun

>>512784319
>Alright, this thread will be closing soon. My point is that the U.S. is currently sustained by the illegal labor of undocumented immigrants, and if they were deported, the country would collapse.
It would not collapse, prices would rise and then stabilize as American labor is paid a rate commensurate with the work performed. Just like any other job.

>Even if wages were raised as you want, regular Americans still wouldn't work in those kinds of conditions, so simply raising pay won't bring about the world you're imagining.
Americans work grueling jobs every single day, the reason why you don't see illegals in those jobs and you making this moronic argument about those positions is because they are paid a fair rate for their work.

>See you in the next thread on a similar topic!
I will look for the moron posting stupid anime girls to know it's you, see you then you colossal retard.