The scale is beyond western comprehension. In this picture alone there are 1 million solar panels. There are more than a million such locations in China.

>>512817658 (OP)
>solar panels in a place that has daily sandstorms

This is so dumb. Just build several dozen MSR or SFR breeders. Waste of natural beauty

>>512817658 (OP)
>beyond western comprehension
>tells us how many
A decent thread died for this.

Why can't China do anything in a normal chill fashion? Why is it always mass spamming of X-whatever like in some sim game? All it does it lead to massive bubbles and surreal malinvestment.

>>512817886
Keep seething rakesh

>>512817658 (OP)
and 2 nuclear reactors can produce the same energy.

>>512817822
>A decent thread
No such thing on /pol/.

>>512817658 (OP)
don't worry /pol/ and reddit told me anything other than big oil is gay and unsustainable

>>512817966
You have no response besides beep bop ad hominem because you can't defend such idiocy any way else than that.

>>512817658 (OP)
Deserts seem like the perfect place for those things. Lots of sun, flat, no plants or animals. The whole thing gets rid of having to mine coal or deal with nuke waste. Kudos to the Chinese people.

>>512817886
It’s called a planned economy and it makes it so there are no poor people

>>512818018
>Chernobyl
>Fukushima
Now those are 2 nuclear reactors I wouldn't want.

>>512818161
Planned economies do nothing but create poverty though, so what are you talking about?

>>512817797
Natural beauty in a desert where hardly anyone goes? These panels aren't really comparable to windfarms at scenic beaches.

>>512818161
It's called one-child policy and it makes it so there are no people.

>>512817658 (OP)
>build solar panel forest
>place secret bunkers, silos, prisons and nuke enrichers beneath

>>512818160
You know where there's an even better place for them? On top of warehouse roofs.

>>512817886
>power generation is useless and a waste
???

>>512818242
He is one of those who think we have to preserve Nature exactly as it is and give no thought to trade-offs.

>>512817658 (OP)
> one emp takes out 100% of china's energy grid

Keep it up chinks

>>512818216
>do nothing but create poverty
Uhh, then why would they be doing it anon?

>>512818303
If we are gonna use that electricity to run DeepSeek models, then yes.

>energy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FYtNQ8izM0
>lol

>>512818163
>>Chernobyl
>>Fukushima
actual skill issues and bad design that is already fixed. Stop the fearmongering.

>>512818254
No they have lots of people, I think like 900 million peasants and a lot of single guys. Not many girls though by comparison.

>>512817658 (OP)
No hail in Chinatown? Maybe someone should send some for the lolz.

>>512817658 (OP)
this is absolutely retarded
how do you even store all that energy

>>512817658 (OP)
Spending money on the least efficient form of energy generation.
Seeks brilliant.

>>512818423
Murphy's law.
Stop believing that the technology of [the current year] is perfectly safe.
Solar panels CAN'T cause nuclear disasters, so they WON'T.
Nuclear power plants CAN, so they WILL on a long enough timescale.

>>512817658 (OP)
They'd be better off building human-sized hamster wheels. I feel bad, genuinely

>>512818440
Heard there is plenty of room in your mom's pussy.

>>512818429
>Not many girls though by comparison
So you agree that soon they won't have people.
Or they could import millions of Africans like us.

>>512818845
Stop giving them ideas.

>>512818353
'Cause that's the plan.

>>512818971
I don’t think their system is set up to import millions of Africans since it’s all communist and shit.

As for population collapse that takes too long, a lot can happen before then.

>>512819012
Lol. It can't be better than their solar-powered robot that cleans solar panels (idk who cleans the robot's panel tho)

https://youtu.be/vW2SyqG500c

>>512819120
>a lot can happen before then
Like what?
Anything short of artificial wombs won't do, so put all your chips on that.

>>512817658 (OP)
Fuck yes

>>512819181
>"It's no use, Mr. James—it's solar panels all the way down."

>>512817658 (OP)
Oh boy it's the daily China vaporware thread where China discovers God mode and infinite ammo. Never brought up again the next day.

>>512819493
You were never brought up right by your parents or you wouldn't be talking like this.

>>512818216
Are you actually claiming china is only creating poverty for its people? And you've an american flag? What race of jew are you? Cause your either a lying fucking jew or an idiot.

>>512817658 (OP)
Solar panels only last about 25 years and are so expensive to recycle that most processing plants refuse to do it. In a quarter century, when all those millions of panels that haven't been destroyed by nature (and most of them will have been) become useless, they'll basically all just go into a landfill and be replaced with a million more unrecyclable panels that will have consumed more power in their construction and maintenance than they produced in their lifespan.

>>512819692
>And you've an american flag?
That explains why he is ignorant and uneducated.
What is your excuse for not being like him?

>>512819705
Sometimes I think all the trash in the world just needs to be centralized somewhere and nuked.

>>512817658 (OP)
What a huge waste of resources since those panels won't last more than 2 weeks in the desert.

>>512819705
>unrecyclable panels that will have consumed more power in their construction and maintenance than they produced in their lifespan
Women and minorities, on average, are a fiscal net loss since the government spends more money on them than they pay in taxes. Yet we aren't getting rid of them.
Why are you going for the low-hanging fruit and targeting the solar panels?

>>512819828
Me too. Let’s drop it in India

>>512819970
Because spreading the truth about solar panels won't get me thrown in prison. At least not yet, anyway.

>>512818216
I claim the tube with the chink thot

>>512819970
since you're obviously shilling for solar, instead of being retarded, give me a brand for the panels and the inverter since I'm building an house right now

>>512820099
>At least not yet
A gross oversight on the part of the World Economic Forum and its Young Leaders™

>>512820273
What do you need a house for?
You will own nothing and be happy.
Housing as a service.
Pay rent until you die. Or become a hobo.

>>512819971
India houses elephants and leopards.

>>512819705
China recycles them fine, we just lack the technology to recycles them, just like we lack the technology to process rare earth

>>512817658 (OP)
Are they going to replace those every couple months from the sandstorms?
Is this where the giant highways to nowhere and empty trains are supposed to go?

>>512820528
But I want infants in leotards.
Legalize lolicon in Australia!

>>512818018
this

>>512820671
I would rather the trains be empty than full of toxic materials in East Palestine.

>>512820774
Congrats, you get both.

>>512817658 (OP)
How long until the sand fogs the glass and the panels start leaching cadmium?

>ctrl f
>silver
>0 results

NGMI

I guess it's better than burning coal?

At least it doesn't cause air pollution.

>>512820989
why not buy gold instead? it has better profit margins and higher growth rate

>>512820989
I'll melt that silver and pour it up your ass.

>>512818292
weird that this hasn't been figured out globally, yet

>>512818353
Because it creates power and positions for the planners retard. That's communism.
>>512819692
>>512819787
You're angry because planned economies are a disaster every time and China is the next great example of that.

>>512821095
>what is GSR?

You deserve it!

>>512819242
Anon population collapse will happen after we’re both dead, it’s irrelevant

>>512818216
She appears to being wearing some kind of bug diaper so she can pee without leaving the tube.

>>512817658 (OP)
>The scale is beyond western comprehension.
It's not, but here's the problem: Some assholes come along and steal as many electrical components their van and/or pick up truck can hold and abscond with it. Then who pays for that shit? The West is not a high trust or high control society and therefore can not sustain such an endeavor. Security corporations would get sued into the ground for trying to protect this shit from thieves. I don't know if China is high trust, but it is certainly high control. Therefore it may work.

>>512821558
Very practicarrr.

>>512818018
...and they have the nuclear, the solar is literally a potemkin village

>>512817886
It's what happens when you're trying to tard-wrangle 1.4 billion fucking bug people.

>>512818161
>no poor people in China
kek, their are plenty of poor people and most that are not work such insane schedules that they want to kill themselves

>>512819692
30 million chinese live in caves

>>512818018
They can, but for some reason China scaled back its plans to build a shitload of nuclear reactors. Don't know exactly why. Maybe they thought "wait, we're going to have to find a place to store all the spent material from all these reactors? Fuck that, we already catch flak for the cancer villages."
>>512818423
>Chernobyl
Result of overconfident incompetence of its management, and government censorship of a flaw in the reactor's design. Both possible conditions a Chinese reactor could be exposed to so that's marginally fair.
>Fukushima
Earthquake. Shit happens, though shit also does happen in China.

>>512820989
silver kinda sucks. It relies on this reality that everything is going to fall apart and correct itself in 2 more weeks.

>>512817658 (OP)
this is a vanity project to support their domestic polysilicon production, nothing more

>>512818161
Anon... I don't know what world you're living in, but out of china's 1.5 billion people almost 1 billion of them live outside of the few mega-cities in squalor. And even then the city life isn't exactly nice since the majority of people there aren't exactly upper or middle class either. Where the fuck do you people get this shit? China's GOVERNMENT and business LEADERS are rich, not the people.

>>512822596
China doesn't have 1.5 billion people, but maybe 1.2 or less. There's hundreds of millions of changs that exist only on paper.

>>512818216
>Planned economies do nothing but create poverty
German unemployment was less than 1% in 1939

>>512823109
Well a wartime economy with all the men conscripted will do that won't it shitskin commie?

>>512823221
>Well a wartime economy with all the men conscripted will do that
Unironically yes, and when soldiery is an actual job that's not a bad thing. Don't act like this country isn't constantly at war because it is and you know it.

LMAO CHANG PLEASE. The Bhadla Solar Park in Rajasthan is the world's LARGEST solar farm.

INDIA has infinite energy. NOT CHINA.
Get fucking MOGGED you stupid chink.

>>512817658 (OP)
I don't see a million panels.

>>512817658 (OP)
some sorry sack of slanted eye shit has to clean those.

>MUH ONE TRILLION SOLAR PANELS.

Lol. Lmao. Sure thing pal. Whatever you say big guy. Lol.

>>512823322
>when soldiery is an actual job that's not a bad thing
lmao. TAPS SIGN LMAO!

>>512823368
"Breaking news from India this evening: Rajah Solar Farm bursts into flames as explosive gases from nearby feces dumping site catch fire. Three maintenance workers are said to have died and several towns are being evacuated as the cloud of burning waste threatens nearby communities."

>>512823482
>TAPS SIGN LMAO!
You think soldiery is an actual job right now?
lol
lmao

>>512817658 (OP)
but that is the natural habitat of the mongolian death worm

>>512817886
YOU DONT UNDERSTAND
I SAW A SMALL BIRD EATING SOME GRAINS OF RICE
THEY ALL HAVE TO DIE
NOTHING BAD WILL HAPPEN IF YOU KILL ALL OF THEM
TRUST AND BELIEVE

>>512817658 (OP)
It's an absurd waste of space and material. A real powerplant is far more efficient by every metric.

>>512817658 (OP)
Blight on the landscape

>>512817658 (OP)
Serious question, is the US behind with this stuff? I heard the most ridiculous excuses against electricity like EVs are gay and stuff like that. Apparently poor countries are buying EVs meaning they are gonna leapfrog into the solar/electric energy phase.

>>512817658 (OP)
Seems legit.
>>512817777
Checked.

>>512823724
America is fucking 3rd place lmao. INDIA is currently 1st place with the largest solar complex in the WORLD. Utterly mogging china AND America.

Pic. Rel.

>>512823368
cool, and it will produce less energy every year it's in service not to mention constant maintenance.

nuclear mogs it in the long run, easily

>>512824072
LMAO america 3rd place. china 2nd place.

INDIA 1ST PLACE.

GET FUCKED YOU STUPID CHINSECTOIDS AND MUTTS AHAHAHAHAHAHAA

>>512817658 (OP)
China is achieving unlimited upkeep lol

>>512823877
Do not redeem. Ranshit

>>512823551
I sense a special pleading definition about what "soldiery" or "job" means lol, lmao lol.
>>512823651
kek

>>512824226
LMAO imagine getting MOGGED by INDIA. AHAHAHAHAHAHA
America is still STUCK in the age of burning fucking coal. Like a fucking caveman.

Meanwhile India harnesses the power of the SUN. Oh and the chink OP can't even respond because he got fucking MOGGED. India has the LARGEST solar farm in the world EVEN BIGGER THAN THE ONE IN CHINA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

CHING CHONG CHINA FUCKED.

>>512817658 (OP)
Maintenance and updating equipment is always an issue when expanding the scale.
Almost all machine parts are consumables, and in such environments, strong sunlight and sand cause damage, and fine sand enters the interior of components, causing rapid deterioration.
And when new technologies are applied and new equipment is invented, the old equipment quickly becomes obsolete. If there is always a generous budget, there would be no problem with updating, but that is not always the case.
Eventually, they will be abandoned and left in the desert, creating a mountain of industrial waste.
>>512817777
Also, checked.

>>512824281
>I sense a special pleading definition about what "soldiery" or "job" means
Well let me make a distinction then: Army Corps of Engineers is a job. Some bitch sleepwalking through basic while a man carries her kit later pushing papers at a desk is not.

It is only half true that natural energy is unlimited, because the machinery used to extract natural energy is limited. Without constant human intervention, entropy will prevail, especially in harsh environments.
Automation and mechanization are still limited to niche applications and have only come halfway.

>>512824391
Saar pls do not redeem the solar panel.

>>512824603
Yes I already said I knew you had a private special pleading definition of the terms in question. It's why I didn't bother to argue with you honey. I don't argue with jews.

>>512817658 (OP)

>>512824869
yeah but India does have solar arrays. Even larger than china's. You're stuck in the stone age. Keep on burning coal. Keep on polluting the air.

>>512825143
Ah yes, only your precious corporations can save us from poverty. Putting people to work through the military though? Horrifying, right? Hooknose.

>>512825455
no u joo, u

>>512825367
Right, India is known for it's clean and fresh air and clean rivers too and no one shits on the streets as well

Fucking Indian jeet think they can beat china

>>512823877
retard jeet.

Depending on how you define it, it may be true that solar, wind, and hydroelectric power are more "eco-friendly"and "sustainable" than thermal power generation using oil and coal, but the essence of extracting and converting natural energy sources such as light, heat, and water into electricity, a form that is more universally usable by humans, remains unchanged.
Most of it is generated by turning turbines, and solar panels simply use solar cells.
As technology advances, the difference in apparent conversion efficiency have narrowed, but the latter generally require significantly larger area for the same output, and relying solely on that requires batteries to compensate for the instability of its output, which further reduce efficiency, making it not a one-size-fits-all solution but rather case-by-case.
Of course, it goes without saying that the materials required to manufacture these machines and batteries are also natural resources that must be mined.
Everyone expects magic from science and engineering, and many people have become brainwashed by the buzzword of "unlimited natural energy." However, it uses machinery, machinery inevitably wears out, machinery is finite and do not take it at face value.

>>512827077
industrial production of molten salt batteries when

>>512817797
>Waste of natural beauty
The sand under those panels will be grass within 6 years, they can speed it along by installing a machine that uses electricity to condense water out of air and spill it on the ground under the panel.

Trees will have to be trimmed there within a decade. Anyone can do the work of doing a walk through every week and dust off the panels with a portable air-blower.

Just admit it, China is making the USA look like a 3rd world country, which it is.

>>512817658 (OP)
>beyond western comprehension
In 2024, 66% of new energy input to the US grid came from solar panels and solar fields. America is doing it too.
>>512817777
Cleaning a row of panels that is exactly the same size and angle is something easily done by a robotic vehicle.
>>512817886
China can make a billion of something and that still means only one per person on average. One solar panel per person is nowhere near enough.

>>512817658 (OP)
Westerners are going extinct and being replaced by their genitally mutilated overlords with non-westerners. I would not be too worried about them if I was Chinese.

>>512827428
>condense water out of air
Northern China experiences dry air in winter, and summer monsoonal flows are blocked by Tibet in the northwest, meaning very hot and dry summers. If graze grows up beneath the panels, it will present a fire hazard when dry and will have to be trimmed back.

based

>>512817658 (OP)

>>512817777
hook the panels up to some temp fans

>>512817777
It's fine they're connected to anything or even functional.

>>512817777
WITNESSED

>>512817658 (OP)
Now realize that you have to transmit all that power over a thousand miles to where the industry needs it. Then realize the power is volatile and a single cloud can crash your billion dollar processes.

>>512817658 (OP)
>china
>achieving
Pick one.
No one buys the china is an advanced country meme, you stupid chink.

>>512817658 (OP)
Nuclear is the answer. This shit is dumb.

1 million solar panels VS 100 million Hailstones battle simulator.

>>512823463
the only person who knows math on /pol

>>512817658 (OP)
>there are 1 million solar panels
Chinks are on their way to turning their country into one giant dung heap just like India. Filthy subhumans.

>>512817658 (OP)
On the one hand, that's amazing and brave and the world needs it.
On the other, WTF IS WRONG WITH THEM WONGS? Solar panels in a desert? They're going to deteriorate and pollute the environment so far, not that they care, but they won't produce electricity for long.

>>512817658 (OP)
No, no. I've played Factorio before
Once you scale up the steam plants, your coal consumption becomes enormous
You can crack crude into solid fuels which provide a higher energy to weight ratio, but you end up producing more pollution
They don't have enough uranium for the Kovarex enrichment process
So now they have to use all their iron and oil products to produce solar panels and accumulators
They must be going for some crazy 1000 SPM mega factory; their space tech is just trickling in

>>512817658 (OP)
I'm not reading the mutt cope in this thread
The Chinese are great and will be kinder world leaders after the rotting remnants of the judeo-mutt empire are put to rest.
Now please go back to work to make a cheaper GPU

>>512818800
Since you're such an expert, please explain to me in sufficient detail the Passive Safety features on generation 3+ nuclear reactors (ala the reactors we would be building). You don't know what you're talking about.

>>512837122
>if White people die, chinks can then become great
You'll never be great. You're a yellow-nigger.

>>512823368
I know where I'd rather visit retard

>>512817658 (OP)
Imagine having to clean those panels though.
Even with robots it takes forever.

>>512824072
Pajeets are too retarded to make efficient nuclear or geothermal

>>512817797