Are trans mentally ill or are they truly born in the wrong body?

>>512852948 (OP)
>Are trans mentally ill
yes /thread

>>512852948 (OP)
It's more complicated than that.

>>512852948 (OP)
Pride is tool use
It is masturbation
Vanity / pride

Well enough but we're not supposed to
have faith in it

>>512852948 (OP)
>Is reality reality or am I fucking retarded
I think you answered your own fucking retarded question...

>>512852948 (OP)
Born in the wrong body

>>512852977
FPBP

>>512852948 (OP)
>reality doesn't confirm my perception
Go figure.

>>512852948 (OP)

boomers so proud of their narcissism - most revolting generation of humans on earth is boomer americans

>>512852948 (OP)
A combination of genetic damage and being deliberate inducement (relatively more recent) of specific indoctrination through the public school system. Even more recent is the spiking of vaccines with the oocysts of a genetically modified strain of sacculina parasites to operate on humans like they do on crabs.

>>512852948 (OP)
Both of those guys are NOT passing trannies

>>512853356
the one on the right is a cis woman, his mother.

>>512852979
yeah they are dangerous monsters that hate women and attack kids

>>512853637
is that zachary levi in a fatsuit

>>512852948 (OP)
The west has 0 standards. People are just doing whatever.

trans are usually just people with extreme low self esteem or gays that want to try bait straight guys into sex
there's no such thing as "born in the wrong body"

>>512852948 (OP)
95% - 99% coping method for some form of mental issue, or a physical simple cross dressing fetish, which you may or may not consider a mental disorder.

1% - 5% a legitimate form of delusional disorder that was in the past treated successfully with anti-psychotics, the drugs they give schizophrenics to specifically target these symptoms.

>>512853637
Yes like anyone that uses this site anon.

>>512853806
Hey Pedro you done grooming minors in the ytp community

>>512853923
...youtube poop?

>>512853959
Yes he's a fucker he circle jerks himself on Kiwi farms and has like very distinct taste of specifically hating trans women and needs minors to spy on discord server that have ytpers. Just thought it was him cause he's always talked about he he's communist and seemed fitting.

>>512854141
Doesn't help he got exposed in a discord server called neon castle which was found out he was in his mid 30s living in Brazil jerking off to shota con and lolicon of Dragon Ball z characters on an alt account on Twitter I'll never fucking understand Kiwi farms fucks.

>>512854141
>>512854330
Weird!

>>512852948 (OP)
He was a regular on TauntFest on Twitch before he transitioned
He had very obvious mental and social problems
Seemed autistic at the least

>>512852977
>>512853177
checked. digits confirm.

>>512852948 (OP)
Definitely ill. Way of getting attention they are unable to otherwise get. Way to get sexual experiences they are unable to otherwise get too.

You see this problem primarily in affluent countries and in affluent areas.
How come there are so many trannies in Holywood? Why are there so many of them in those type of specific areas and industries? Why holywood actors have 1-2-3 trans kids when the odds of being trans are so insanely low?

You see them in Thailand too, but there young boys are kind of groomed to be sex workers from young age. Its a way of making money to survive in a ratrace shithole country, so I can't really blame them.

What I'm saying is what intelligent design is
It's an immoveable fact.
It's not my opinion.
I'm absolutely not trying to be pompous
I will point blank get out of the way if it's not right.

Science and wisdom are discovery.
They are found out.

We manipulate matter at the most fundamental level but God created from
the void.

Hell is the checkpoint to understand that.
The resurrection is a life on a recreated earth with recreated heavens I dont mean to make little of it but it sounds exactly like a server reset albeit we retain our souls.
The ones who do wrong are made the least in heaven.
They're made into waterbearers and woodhewers.

I mean to highlight that we cant produce atoms, there is no water in hell, the afterlife is a resurrection then a life where you're able to die again.
It says the least will live for a thousand years.
It also says God will throw death in hell.
But maybe we can surmise to guess that after 1000 years Satan and death will be loosed again.
Also hell the second death.
Functionally because all is spirit, or all is wisdom
All is a lesson between life and death or right and wrong.
Hell is a place where you cant die but are subject to torment leaving you with the option to turn away from God or ask for mercy.
(It says God will forgive even the farthest flung soul.)
It's a test for pride.
If you can atomically arrange water and food pulling water from the void then youd have at least a shot.
But we cant lead our own souls.
That's what the Almighty God does with the God of heaven and the God of hell.
He puppets them for wisdom.
Time is wisdom.

That's how the second death could operate.
Like minimizing a file on a PC to delete it
Leading someone away from the accumulation of right/wrong decisions that composite who they are leaving those with a choice in pride and humility at a very critical level.
Eventually leading to stagnation if neither side capitulated.
I'm using the bugs that fly out as evidence
as well. It says they will sting people such that the people will want to die but are unable
Time and time again I've found it valuable even insurmountable to take the bible serious on its word
Like what I mean is that God gives us clues by talking in this manner
In a way that either takes an insane amount of thought and clarity or is God
God says in the Bible what is the truth is what he is that's how we will know
Intelligent design is that
It's a logic machine so it functions in a specific way

The key is all the fundamental things and finding their mechanical action

As well in the very beginning in genesis
We were given a lesson between love and pride.
The fruit of love is a family, the fruit of masturbation is death.
The philosophers stone is taking tools to the flesh trying to live forever
Which isn't possible because of hell.
Both in that no one can lead their own spirit and they cant produce energy from nothing.
Also with the earth being recreated the people who God will put there first probably then have first will to grab whatever resources and as well how to set society in some way may be left to man.

I just finished the old testament truth be told
So I'm missing a lot of valuable information

Albeit to say without pride
The truth is self evident

>>512852948 (OP)
They are brainwashed by kikes. It's all part of their agenda. They screamed the world is overpopulated for decades and encouraged degenerate behavior to curb birth rates. Now we are being told there we need mass migration from jeets and niggers to save us from a declining population crises. Once the jeets and niggers have overrun all the 1st world countries they will be easier for the kikes to take control of everything.

>>512852977
Occam's fucking razor opening up the mind to truths, and the wrists for attention.

>>512852948 (OP)
If they are born in the wrong body, it means there is a measurable factor that should allow doctors to diagnose it from birth.
If no such test can be performed, then it's just fake and as everyone already knows, it's more of a personality disorder or sexual fetish thing depending on the case.

>>512852948 (OP)
All Democrats are mentally ill

>>512852979
i guarantee you could beat a tranny out of his 'condition', its just never been tried.

>>512855223
No need to waste energy nigga. Just give them 12mg of pimozide daily.

>>512855223
I guarantee it has been successfully done. It's called having a real father.

>>512852948 (OP)
>What's the problem incel Chud? Can't you handle a real woman?

>>512855403
yeah, REAL UGLY! FUCK YOU!

>>512852948 (OP)

>>512852948 (OP)
It depends, the results arent good though

>>512853583
Sorry, she's genetically a dude bro.

>>512852977
Yeah, this seems to be my conclusion also.... and I've tried SO hard to justify transexuality, and I simply cannot. There's just no way around the fact that it's rooted in delusion and self-hatred.
NOW, if a person is, say, a male actor, and doesn't want their true identity to be known, so they can still go out in public without being noticed, and decides to act as a female character public figure, that's completely different. I think a lot of famous people choose to do this.

>>512853583

I think she actually has a dick, for real. THere is some medical problem she has.

>>512852948 (OP)
When you look at the unreasonably high percentage of Hollywood stars having trooned kids, you really have to wonder how fucking degenerate that place really is.

>>512856373
Oh wow, oh dear, dear me, that's not great that is it?

>>512852948 (OP)
You people will never find happiness

>>512852977
FPBP
CZECHED

>>512852948 (OP)
>born in the wrong body
what was? the brain? that's part of the body isn't it?

>>512852948 (OP)
What's truly mentally ill is allowing male infant genital mutilation.

>>512852948 (OP)
Only someone mentally ill would want to be a tailless woman.

>>512852948 (OP)
Trans women are problematic because they introduction competition with cis women for male attention, more competition in attractiveness, and undermine cis women's control and monopoly over sex. It's incredibly toxic for the feminist movement and too beneficial for men to be allowed to exist.

>>512852977
fpbp

>>512852948 (OP)
>>512852979
>>512853088

>>512859900
THIS

Oh yeah. The thing on the left is definitely a mentally stable individual.

>>512852948 (OP)
>picture is worth a thousand words

Evidently, there's such a thing as image illiteracy.

They are objectively NOT mentally ill since the DSM does not classify it as mental illness.

>>512852977
/thread
clean it up, jannies.

>>512852948 (OP)
I love watching a bunch of incels living in their mom's basement angry about a video game in that came out in 2014 are debating if I'm mentally ill.

Parent, wife, union job, primary breadwinner if this is mental illness maybe a few of you should catch it
>inb4 I trapped her
Thats why you marry a bi girl you are lifelong friends with who knows

By the way where are the files the kiddie fucker in chief promised us?

>>512852948 (OP)
They are mentally ill which is why people have always rejected them. Sorry (not sorry) trannies, you will never be accepted.

https://youtube.com/shorts/MS3_skDqvfQ

>>512853113
Thats not how genetics works.

>>512852948 (OP)
they're mentally ill people who get enabled and encouraged by other mentally ill people to do degenerate shit.

then when they off themselves, the people who didn't enable and encourage them get blamed for their deaths.

>>512863040
least narcissistic tranoid

>>512860026
>Dick Swaab
hahaha funny name

>>512860026
how does this explain 40year old eggs who have an awakening when they try on their wife's panties?

>>512852948 (OP)
It only matters to you if you decide to make it matter to you. Just mind your own business, unless you are feeling like you were born in the wrong body yourself...

>>512852948 (OP)
It says "halloween" behind them so there's nothing wrong here

>>512852948 (OP)

>>512852948 (OP)
Not all of them are mentally ill (gender dysphoria is a misclassified body integrity identity disorder). Some are dumb and impressionable, some are gay, but of course none of them are "trans" as there's no such thing as changing gender/sex or being born in the wrong body.

>>512852948 (OP)
>Ignore the child fucker in chief
Trannies!
> ignore the child fucker we elected
Every illegal is now ISIS and a cartel member!
>ignore that PEDOCON is real
Let's invade Greenland

I find it hilarious that an entire movement based off of conspiracy theories about hidden elites and child molestation elected a rapist child fucker and his rapist friends into the government

Where are the files by the way? We were promised them by your dear leader

>>512852948 (OP)
No one is born in the wrong body. That statement is meaningless.
Gender theory was started by western jews to destroy white people.

>>512863641
Yes but they need help

people keep saying being trans is a delusion. what do you mean by delusion?
trans people know what sex we were born as. we just feel happier living as the other sex

>>512852977
this plus I would add most are jewish

>>512860026
So what about all the sexual degeneracy that surrounds it?
Just a side effect of gender dysphoria?

>>512852948 (OP)
It is a mental illness and a physical manifestation of a broken inner psyche this is a weak male and ugly
You can tell Jamie lee curtis was upset at first but has accepted this better to live and accept than to live in torment so good for Jamie

>>512852948 (OP)
Fine. My body is wrong, too.
I'm only 14 and should never have to go to jail or anything for crimes. Or work. Or pay taxes.

>>512868643
A delusion in that unless there was a full procedure that made you completely female
It will be a projection from what you were born in and what you wish to be its a mix of the middle so your never 100% the other sex so it is a delusion unless technology could 100% swap you in a biologically female body

>>512852948 (OP)
Why do so many hollywood liberals have children who were born in the wrong body? There seems to be disproportional number of people who were born to unapologetically shitlib mothers who end up becoming trans. Very curious.

>>512869391
it's not delusional though. delusional would be to think i'm a cis woman when i'm clearly not
i think i'm a trans woman which is precisely what i am

>>512852948 (OP)
I definitely think it's possible for a male to be on the cusp of female.
It's just like females who are born with almost male genitalia.
I think you can have chromosomes that just barely tipped over into male.
There are males who are born with very feminine bodies and feminine features who could easily have been female with one little nudge.
If you don't think a male can be a female then take a look at Gilticus.
Absolutely drop dead gorgeous.

>>512852948 (OP)
neither
they are narcissistic and have a sick perverted fetish and want everyone else to go along with their lies to satisfy their fetish and to fuck kids

tfd
ttd
tpd

>>512852948 (OP)
Yes, 100%. Maybe around 1% of them are "real" trannies, as in they truly, genuinely think and feel like the opposite sex (stil mental illness) enough to feel they really are "in the wrong body". On very rare occasions some of these "real" trannies might actually be "born this way", as in they developed this illness not from obvious abuse/trauma, but just from a combination of their innate characteristics and life experiences in general. These are the only real trannies who might be better off living as the opposite sex to some extent, as long as any bodily modification stops before truly becoming truly harmful. This is as far as I can entertain the issue: maybe, MAYBE 1% of 1% of these pitiful creatures would be better off getting hair removal, wearing dresses and makeup or whatever, maybe even harmless cosmetic surgeries, but genital mutilation is definitely harmful and modifying hormones can also be extremely harmful.

The rest of them? Most are just autogynephilic perverts who need therapy and/or anti psychotics. Of the "real" trannies; most were abused, molested, or traumatized in some way and simply need mental help. Maybe they have a hormonal imbalance that needa addressing. Worst case maybe TRT would help the embrace feeling like a man if natural means fail. My point is there are better, more sane solutions which are still compassionate, and they all require sober and honest recognition of the true condition of these individuals.

I say all this as someone who once had similar thoughts and feelings from servere childhood trauma, who recovered long before the fad took hold and before I ever acted on any of it. Psychedelics led me to realizations about natural law, our place in it, my role in this life as a man and so forth. I now have a wife and daughter and aside from the larger world's shenanigans beyond my control, life in this smaller world within my control is pretty good these days.

>>512852948 (OP)
yes to both
in some cases, structurally, their brains are incorrect
but in most cases it's body dysmorphia and other mental issues no one will admit because of the stigma associated with LGBT and the DMS-I/II/III/IV/V

>>512852948 (OP)
Mental illness caused by
-being sexually abused as child
-extreme social isolation and inceldom
-autism
-porn addiction

>>512873078
The stigma angle is fucking retarded though. These days virtually everyone either has some depression or anxiety disorder or has dealt with one or the other off and on at some point. Yet no one is crying "calling depression/anxiety mental illness means you hate me". To further add to the stupidity, somewhat legitimately "trans" people of the past fought for decades to get their condition recognized as a mental illness so they could get better care and insurance coverage. Now they want health care and insurance coverage to treat something that also isn't an illness? You see how that makes no sense? I genuinely want these people to get the help they need, even the rare "real" trannies who might genuinely benefit from some degree of transitioning if it doesn't spiral into self harm. The rest of them need mental/spirtual introspection and integration though, not knives and drugs.

>>512852979
It's not. You are sick. Kys

Just a thought experiment.
What would happen if 10million people claim to be transjews and want israeli citizenship? Would the jews be called nazis when they say no?

Or when 1million russian soldiers say they are transukraine and want to life in kiev?

>>512852948 (OP)
Explain how you can be born in the wrong body.

Which part of your body isn't "you?"

>>512852977
Have you met one you want to talk to?
I haven't even if its for 10sec i'm grossed out by it.