Thread 513075706

What do you actually think the broad strokes of the agreement will be?
Do you think Russia will give up any land they control?
Do you think Trump will actually give them access to resources in Alaska?
What concession do you think Russia will realistically offer?

there wont be any agreement

>>513075706 (OP)
There will be no agreement today. Both sides will say that strides towards peace have been made, but later we'll find out that they haven't actually agreed on anything, and Putin gave the same terms he's been giving since the beginning:
>No NATO membership
>Annexation of 4 regions, including the territory Russia has never held
>Reduction in Ukraine's army size to 85 thousand people max
>Making russian a state language
>All sanctions gone
And some other minor stuff.

Imperial purple versus pink gay as fuck

>>513075954
this

>>513075706 (OP)
We get Vladivostok they get Europe

>>513075706 (OP)
Putin outplays Trump, forcing him to reluctantly accept the annexation of Novorossiya by Russia.

>>513075706 (OP)
They’re gonna kill Putin and strike Russia tomorrow. Bookmark this post. There’s 0 reason to have a conversation about a deal when Putin will just deny it like always. There’s nothing stopping Putin at this point and if he live a nuclear war will break out. The only way to beat a nuclear power is to cut the head off first as quick as possible, like there will probably still be a nuclear attack here by them but won’t be as bad. Or Trump just sends the flying orbs at putins plane and it disappears like mh370

>>513075706 (OP)
>What concession do you think Russia will realistically offer?

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>>513075706 (OP)
Couldn't tell you but all I know is America is playing 4D chess and they prop up lil Russia to pretend they are a superpower. America misses the rivalry and nostalgia but the truth is Russia is a third world outside Moscow.

>>513075706 (OP)
>Do you think Russia will give up any land they control?
No.
>Do you think Trump will actually give them access to resources in Alaska?
70-30.
>What concession do you think Russia will realistically offer?
"We'll stop shooting for a few days and Zelensky can call us and maybe we'll agree to something" (they won't).

Only guaranteed result is Trump being made to look like a clown.

>>513076225
Oh i wish, but we are in clown world where nothing ever happens and tne admin it's keen on teasing happenings until the whole world dies of cynicism.

>>513075954
They wouldn't meet at all if they were not confident to reach an agreement. But this will be an American-Russian only agreement. The EUSSR will remain the sore losers and refuse to cooperate, they rather have a 20th sanction package against Russia in their tragic endeavor to commit economic suicide.

>>513076225
> strike Russia tomorrow
Russia has prepared for this and will strike back even before your first nuke enters their airspace.

>>513076225
You can snatch Putin if you have an agreement in place with potential replacements and a coup ready to roll and behead the remaining Vlad loyalists. Otherwise, it literally would be the most blatant and inexcusable act of War anyone has seen for a looong time. Be Missiles flying within an hour.

>>513076306
> concession
They will spare the Western Ukrainian cities, won't kill all civilians, won't nuke Ukraine, won't occupy Kiev, ...

>>513075706 (OP)
> death to all niggers
> death to all jews

Probably not, but tonight I can dream.

>>513076709
If Putin even allows a ceasefire he is stupider than I thought. Maybe Medvedev should take over at this point.

>>513077315
Why?
He doesn't have Unlimited Ivans to throw at the problem either. It's just a pointless death slog.

>>513077111
Yes, of course, Russia only refuses to occupy Kiev out of the kindness of their heart.

All those massacred VDV drops in February 2022? Simply a sign of Russian magnanimity.

Russia could totally take Kiev and Lviv tomorrow.

>>513077545
They could have massacred Kiev's population two weeks after start of the invasion, years ago now.

>>513075706 (OP)
I think there will be a ceasefire, frozen along current lines. Russia will try invading again in 5 years.

>>513077545
Russia will obviously take it eventually.

Ukraine just doesn't have the manpower. 1 million Ukrainians are already dead.

>>513077685
Sure, we've all seen them say that.

Truly they are the world's kindest souls, sending hundreds of thousands of their own soldiers to die out of pure benevolence.

>>513075706 (OP)
>Do you think Russia will give up any land they control?
Absolutely not

>Do you think Trump will actually give them access to resources in Alaska?
He would be willing to, but the question is will Putin give a shit?

>What concession do you think Russia will realistically offer?
They will offer a concrete border agreement and to end the war. Keep in mind that Ukraine would lose within a week if America stopped helping them, so what Ukraine and Jewensky wants is irrelevant.

>>513077545
Putin should have firebombed Kiev ages ago. He pussied out.

>>513077489
Because allowing Ukraine to rearm and conscript fresh troops and build new fortifications is the stupidest thing to do in this situation. It would cost many more Russian lives than if they keep going and not release the pressure from the Hohols.

>>513077111
So kind of like the Vichy deal with France in WW2! That went so well.
Those were the days!

>>513075706 (OP)
* Ukraine cedes everything east of Berlin to Russia
* Zelensky's head delivered to Putin on a platter
* all Ukrainian females between ages 12 to 30 are sent to Siberia as hucow breeders
* all Ukrainian males are sent to Norilsk for mining nickel
* Zion Don will send all Patriot missile batteries in Ukraine to Israel
* Trump will personally sever his own foreskin and give it to Putin for later consumption
* Putin pinkie-promises not to sell Iran any nuclear bombs for at least a month

>>513078283
>Trump will personally sever his own foreskin
he already doesn't have a foreskin thoughbeit

>>513075706 (OP)
This is sure to be a minority opinion I think there will be a major breakthrough where Putin largely keeps the land he controls with a bit of landswapping here and there. Trump wins the Nobel peace prize

>>513078283
> Putin pinkie-promises not to sell Iran any nuclear bombs
An important point that is often overlooked.

>>513077054
>You can snatch Putin if you have an agreement in place with potential replacements and a coup ready to roll and behead the remaining Vlad loyalists.
Big if. He's spent a long time ensuring that anybody that could step up is more extreme than himself, playing the good cop if you will. And there would be a military coup within seconds of it looked like somebody was going to install a libershka or whatever they call faggots over there.

>>513075954
fpbp nothing will come of this

>>513075706 (OP)
Hopefully it profits trump

>>513078283
>Putin pinkie-promises not to sell Iran any nuclear bombs for at least a month

i think this is the most obvious thing being asked, some kind of deal regarding Iran, to stop supplying tech/arms and likely some kind of acquiescence to the US at the UN regarding Iran.

Ukraine is honestly going to be told they are going to eat a steaming pile of shit because the EU and Biden sold them a war they couldn't win and the EU/Biden was never going to fight for them. Hopefully this will end with Zelensky being dragged out into the street naked and hung.

this is a big ask, so there will probably be a later agreement regarding some kind of joint US/Russia (and maybe France/UK if they get their heads out their ass) to develop a common commercializable nuclear power plant platform for the developing world that the partner countries will maintain and operate to guarantee nuclear proliferation can't happen.

Russia keep the eastern provinces and of course Crimea. No NATO membership for Ukraine ever. Those were Russia's demands long before they invested so much lives and resources into this conflict. They're not going to move off of this.

The concession will be something new. Maybe some sort of three-way redevelopment/ rebuilding deal involving Ukraine. It's something that will benefit Ukraine but of course nothing would be enough for Zelensky. But he won't have any say in it because Europe will fall into line after the deal gets cut, unless they're abysmally stupid enough to antagonize both the US and Russia at the same time. They can't afford it.

>>513079728
This. Every group that US Democrats pretended to champion since 2021 were just pawns. Trannies, migrants, Ukraine, whatever. They were all just used and spit out when the game was over and that was the plan all along. The ones you see going unhinged on Trump will never believe it, but most others have accepted it. It's over. Trump wins, the GOP win, Russia win, hell, even Best Korea win.