What are thinking?

If russians are winning why are they having this meeting in the first place?

>>513132542 (OP)
>Only one route left in and out of Pokrovsk.
>And its within Russian artillery range.
I would not want to be a defender there right now.

>>513132542 (OP)
>wat r tinkin?

>>513132710
Because Xi told Putin he's not getting tariffed more no matter how big the oil discount is. That's the actual reason Putin cucked and went to see daddy.

>>513132710
Because war costs more than the absence of war you fucking retard.

>>513133333
checked

>>513132542 (OP)
>oink??

>>513133333
So why start one?

>>513132542 (OP)
Nah this is like Debaltsevo, the talks are happening because they're fucked

>>513132542 (OP)
Pussy status?

Pokrovsk isn't the only sector falling apart. There's also Kupyansk in the northern front, Russian forces entered the city and Ukraine is now forced to pull its forces east of the river bank due to threat of encirclement.

>>513132710
Because US asked for it nicely

>>513134448
Because absence of war costs more than war you fucking retard.

>>513134448
To protect your borders from encroaching nato lines

>>513134640
Ok. But how exactly is Ukraine using fabian tactics to inflict 14:1 casualties losing? Ukraine has enough empty villages to keep this rate of withdrawal up for literally decades before Russia is in central Ukraine. By which point Russia will have long since run out of man power as Russia only has 3x the population of Ukraine.

>>513132710
To lead trump around like a stupid puppy

>>513135056
The real ratio is 4:1 in Russia's favor, anyone with a brain knows this. 14:1 was pathetic propaganda to stir up Russians, I am surprised Putin didn't cancel the Alaska meeting for such desperate propaganda, Russia has been spamming FPV fiber optic drones the last 12-18 months, countless Ukrainians are "missing", which is convenient for Zelensky the kike, since the families don't get paid

>>513134640
They're getting closer to Konstantinovka too

>>513135056
>>513135338
With Russian deep battle doctrine Rus can take less causalities on the attack. They are the only country in the world that can do this.

>>513132710
Steve Witkoff asked them after Trump lost face with the deadlines and the secondary sanction threats. He's either going to give Putin everything he wants or he will have to follow through with his threats to India and China.

>>513132786
It's not as bad as it looks partly because there are random treelines among those fields and partly because the Ukrainians are very expendable to their Jewish leader.

Ukraine usually waits for the pocket to close slightly, then sends all the spec ops it has to create some opening and get as many of its surrounded troops out of there.

The craziest part is that those Ukries inside the pockets are not even veterans but noobs, because Ukrainian veterans just disregard orders and get the fuck out of there, but new draftees just obey and listen to the promises. And Ukrie leadership knows this so they always send the draftees straight into the kotels and the most hopeless defense lines.

>>513135367
Forgot pic

>I'M GONNA CALDROON

>>513135338
wtf, did all the good looking ones leave the country? They give the 60 year old draftees a 3/10 ???!!!?!?!?!?!

WHAT THE FUCK??!?!

>>513135485
Their strategy the last year since mass adoption of Fiber-optic drones is blowing up everything and then sending small squads of 4-5 special forces guy to search for survivors to kill/imprison, the idea of 14:1 is ridiculous, Russians are blowing up 5-10 Ukrainians all day every day using these drones, to be a Ukraine soldier right now is a suicide mission

>>513135737
There is now fiber optic but Russia is still using USSR tactical warfare because it simply the best tactics. uraine has little ability to resist.

>>513135633
Stinky Status?

>>513135933
FPV fiber optic drones are the biggest game changer in warfare since the invention of the 1st tank, and transitioning from horse warfare to mechanized assaults. Fiber-optic drones are beyond insanely OP, if this was a videogame, fiber optics would have been banned/nerfed ages ago, it is just to powerful of a weapon to ignore and Russians are spamming it all day. It is a flying anti-tank mine that can sit on a road and launch up to strike targets that are approaching, I have seen these fiber optics traverse entire underground gauntlets, through small holes and backrooms to find their target, like a flying demon sent to kill you, it is insane how OP and powerful they are, IMO they should be banned the same as chemical weapons, there is no point in fighting a War with drones involved

>>513135581
Shut up zigger

>>513136219
>there is no point in fighting a War with drones involved
But Russia has to fight to defend against the nazis. If they use drone Rus has to use drone.

>>513135338
hello fellow holhols

>>513136219
They're kind of disgusting since they can't be jammed, don't need LOS like radio control, and the fiber transceiver + camera barely use power when the drone is idle on ground with engines off.

This is a sneak preview of how smart drones with AI will work. Those won't even need a human at the other end or a fiber. Future of warfare is drone spam, since even laser countermeasures get overwhelmed by numbers. Its like a smaller version of MAD.

>>513136219
>>513137130
I remember some NATOist in youtube arguing that fiber optic cable was an expensive luxury russia and china will eventually run out lmao, it's literal clear plastic

>>513136219
Also as a CoD kid I have to laugh because the "one man army" perk in mw2 was basically a sneak preview of this tactic. Find some defendable location and just spam the map.

>>513137386
*glass, plastic doesn't have the range. Yes, glass can bend.

>>513136382
Cope

>>513134448
>ha russia isnt doing anything about X look at all the lines we can cross
this is a very common mentality despite the war proving how dumb this perspective is by now, so yeah getting this mindset out of the US government was very necessary
better for them to think you're mean than to think you will tolerate everything

>>513134802
This isn't a thing. Stop falling for it.

>>513137386
Imagine that, Russia willing to waste thousands of miles of fiber optic cable in a war rather than connect rural Russians to the internet.

>>513132710
because he has to help krasnov with distractions for the epstein list

>>513139414
>Russia willing to waste thousands of miles of fiber optic cable in a war

It can be recycled I would think, there is a picture that went viral a few weeks ago showing entire fields covered in fiber wiring, giant bushels of it, I imagine there are teams that go and take it back to recycle.

>>513132710
to chop the pork obviously

I have no geopolitical ball in this game, it's all rigged banker shit anyway. But can pro-RU faggots explain to me, how they can still cheer on Russia?
For more than 10 years Russia was shilled as a legitimate military threat to the US on here, a fucking (near-)peer adversary.
Not long now and it will be year 4 of the special needs operation. And Russia is fucking around 20 miles away from Donetsk. Fucking Donetsk.

So while I understand your support for Russia, are you not disapointed by their performance? Why all the cope about briliant strategies and 20.000 dead hohils for every wounded Russian? Am I missing something here?

>>513140775
>But can pro-RU faggots explain to me, how they can still cheer on Russia?
If they don't it's gulag time

>>513132542 (OP)
It's funny how these threads always focus on Ukrainians.
I guess no one cares about Russian lives.

>>513140775

what is there to be disappointed about? what cope are you even talking about?

svinorez goes brrrrr and the lolstates of omerika are laughingstock of the whole planet

we won already you moron,

>>513142258
Why is the Russian flag not flying over Queef my brown friend? Tell me about the brilliant gesture of goodwill feint.

>>513140775
>For more than 10 years Russia was shilled as a legitimate military threat to the US on here, a fucking (near-)peer adversary.
Cause people realized that Russia aren't the ones siphoning billions from the US and are waist deep in corruption with US politicians.
Ukraine is having more of an impact on the US than the Russians have for the past decade, and the war also showed that Russia isn't as unstoppable anyway. Especially for newer generations, who didn't grow up in the Cold War, we're told Russia is "muh evil adversary" much more than we actually see it.
tldr: Ukraine is much worse for the US than Russia, and the sooner Russia breaks them the sooner we can be done being Ukraines piggy bank

>>513140996
I guess you do, bot

>>513142615
As I said, I understand most pro-Russian positions, regardless of where they come from (anti-Ukraine, pro-RU, Third Worldism, MultiPol, new Isol / America First, whatever).
What I'm curious about is the appraisal of Russias military conduct. When talking to pro-RU people, there seems be some weird fucking cognitive dissonance going on - Russia has already won, achieved all goals with both balls tied behind her back, now its just shooting fish in a barrel, ten billion dead ukropiggies for each stubbed russian toe and yada yada. Mind you, its the same with Ukrop supporters, but there is no baggage of Ukraine being hyped up as a geneuine adversary to the US.

Russia was hyped up as being in Berlin within a month. They are fucking around in the Donetsk Suburbs. Pro Russian faggots are usually not willing to admit that their sports team performed poorly. Why?

Is there reason you don't want us to see what happened with Russian "breakthrough" exactly North of where your pic cuts off?

>>513143115

now check the death toll of the blue-pus nazi scum plz before asking dumb questions

or every OTAN idiot state which whines that they don't have weaponry anymore and no means to get it anytime soon

you gamefags got accustomed that victory is when the map gets colored in your colors

welcome to the real world bgg

>>513134448
So if another country tried to militarily encircle America, then overthrew Canada or Mexico, installed a hostile regime that bombed Americans then threatened to host hostile nuclear weapons, America wouldn't go to war?

>>513135581

same strategy as the werhmacht at end off ww2 when soviet army was enclosing all their guys in pockets

>>513132542 (OP)
The fortress belt is more critical.

>>513143810
I can't really keep up with your goalpost moving anymore. If Russia collapsed today into literal warlordism, you'd probably still say they're easily winning because now the EU will take in based OrthoTrad refugees or something.
You are literally, biologically, spiritually so inferior, so cucked and buckbroken, that you are unable to find a flaw in big daddy Russia. May god have mercy on you, my brown friend.

>>513135485
The defenders advantage isn't the same as it was. There is no hiding and waiting safely in trenches, you're getting hit with drones and accurate artillery 24/7.

Attackers can be releativly safe moving outside range before they're sent into the grinder.

>>513143620
Oh wait, I know why!

>>513137386
Its literally fishing line

>>513132542 (OP)
They're thinking that they'll get shot by the Azov battalion of they try to flee.