I keep seeing Americans say how California is a socialist shithole with rampant crime and homeless people everywhere, but if you look at the statistics, they're the largest state by GDP AND they're growing faster than supposedly pro-business states like Texas. In fact, they're growing only slightly slower than Florida (6% vs 6.5%). Objective reality doesn't mesh with what anons here claim. You can't be a failing socialist hellhole that businesses are leaving like a sinking ship and still be thriving economically. What gives?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP

>>513311155 (OP)
Nobody cares about (((GDP))) , Commiefornia is over $70 BILLION dollars in debt .
>and now that they fired and banned all real tech manufacturers
>they have fakest economy ever
>Google and Fakebook bots clicking on ads
>and selling data to glowies for mass surveillance.

Show us the strongest economy , faggot.

>>513311491
>the data doesn't agree with my personal biases therefore it's fake
Try again, nigger.

bump for answers

>>513311155 (OP)
>muh GDP

Would you rather live in India or Switzerland? Because one has the bigger national GDP.

i live in san diego and its a socialist shithole with rampant crime and homeless people everywhere

>>513312319
If you'd check the link, you'd see that it has GDP per capita as well where California comes fifth. Texas is 16th and Florida is 35th.

>>513311491
The US is $37 Trillion in debt.
>>513312319
Which one has a higher per capita?

>>513312467
>Which one has a higher per capita?

California isn't #1 in per capita, which is why Californians only talk about raw GDP.

>>513311155 (OP)
>flag
So what are you doing?
>muh GDP
Lmao well you are retarded, ill give you that

>>513311155 (OP)

>>513312466
California is also 12% of the U.S. national population and a quarter of the homeless. Do you think the guy sleeping on a park bench cares that the tech giants in the state are making a killing?

>>513311571
I've owned a number of small businesses and spent 15 years optimizing sites for Google or running Google ads campaigns for my companies.
1. Statistically Google's traffic collapses every year.
It's a perfect downtrend for a DECADE.
2. If you buy google traffic as small business ,
Google pajeets and jews try to jew a CPA / Cost Per Click ,
that is so high that you cannot ever make it as a small business if you run google ads.
>Google tries to sell $1-$4 PER CLICK
and ridiculous crap like that.

While in reality you may be able to be profitable in our niche, considering collapsing Google traffic, bots and fake pajeet clicks,
maybe at 0.40 - 0.50 cent / Click.

So , after numerous conversation with pajeets at Google Ads year over year over year for a decade trying to fck my business and selling me their non-convertible garbage traffic.
I eventually gave up and shut my ecommerce Google ads campaign.

Google is a parasite on Small Businesses trying to sell crap traffic at a cost that is 4x too high.

As a result a lot of small businesses with a brain shut off their campaigns.

>>513312556
>moving goal posts

>>513312698
>2. If you buy google traffic as small business ,
as Google ads

>>513312737
I accept your surrender.

>>513312636
Even if you ignore GDP, California still innovates a shitton.

>>513314428
>California still innovates a shitton.
Like what, faggot?
Banning internal combustion engines?
Having taxes that are so high that anyone with high incomes who could leave left?
Having cool innovative bots and indian pajeet bot farms clicking on Google ads?

Those innovations?
You need to specify which ones.

>>513314795
>what is silicon valley
Where do you think all these AI companies are based?

>>513314894
SillyCon Valley is right now an empty hole of the real Sillicon Valley of the past.
Hardware innovating companies all left.
The ones that didn't leave that are real aren't innovating, such as Intel and Apple.

Facebook doesn't innovate.
Google doesn't innovate, other than how to scam you more on google ad clicks.

HP - who?
Adobe - most hated by customers company since decided to go from software to become a SAAS (during pajeets) and charge customers monthly fees .

Whom is innovating???

AI is the only trend and it is fake. Their driver is feds who want more of your data.

>>513314894
Tell me which companies innovate?
https://www.outsourceaccelerator.com/guide/tech-companies-in-california/

>>513314428
You're an honorary Californian as of today. Congratulations. You can crash on my couch in Venice anytime you want.

>>513311155 (OP)
>they're the largest state by GDP
true, but the median income is $41k/year, while the median home price is $850k.
compare that to Texas where the median income is $38k/year, but the median home price is $300k, and you see why the average Texan is genuinely wealthier than a Californian.
>AND they're growing faster than supposedly pro-business states like Texas.
where are you getting these numbers?
CA is contracting by all metrics picrel.
Silicone Valley companies are moving down south (TX, FL, AL, SC, NC, etc) and the only reason the big businesses stay is because CA bribes them with tax exemptions and subsidies
https://www.bea.gov/news/2025/gross-domestic-product-state-and-personal-income-state-1st-quarter-2025

>>513311155 (OP)
>but if you look at the kiked government numbers that are clearly lies to cover up the shithole

are you literally retarded or just pretending to be?

It's the ports not the polices or Politics.
A Monkey can run Cali and it'll still make money because the Natural harbors, ports and water access. Imagine how O.P. Cali would be without retards living in and running it.

>>513314894
>AI companies
irrelevant slopware propped up by boomer venture capital.

expect a big tech bubble pop
>>513314428
>California still innovates a shitton
Hollywood is dead, but SV stays relevant thanks to the aforementioned VC speculation

>inb4 flyover hick
t.CaliforniAryan who owns multiple properties in SF

>>513314894
You know who has been real innovators?
In the last 10-15 years.
The gaming industry.
Small software companies and small design studios that have built thousands of games.

That , again, Google and Apple Monopoly parasites listed on Google Play and on Apple Store .
Small 3rd party gaming studios - real innovators in creating shit tons of games and mobile apps / software.

And you know what happened to them?
Google and Apple parasites are collecting the majority of the fees - to place on their stores,
for pay per click to promote your games and software,
>$1 / a click
etc.
Crazy fees they charge (up to 40%) if you have something where you can sell something in the app, etc.

Google and Apple monopoly parasites are currently destroying gaming and mobile apps industry because you , again, can't run a profitable small business and buy Google or Apple ads.

>>513311155 (OP)
>checked
GDP is kike nonsense