Russia is not ending the war without this, simple as.

stinky status?

>>513418363 (OP)
4 years later, they’re *still* slogging through the suburbs of Donestk City. Holy shit hahahahahaha

>>513418481
Only 20km away, after 11 years, kek

>>513418363 (OP)
Azov have been waiting for Russia to come to Kramatorsk for over a decade now. What's holding them up?

>>513418481
false
pay attention, faggot

>>513418363 (OP)
2 more years

>>513418754
It will take a lot longer than 2 years for Russia to take that. It's the most heavily defended part of the frontline and they haven't even reached it yet.

>>513418481
Yep. Its a pretty pathetic performance. Thats why they have to hope trump will give them something they cant take themselves.

>>513418612
Azov got completyely captured in the first and only battle against the Russian Army

>>513418363 (OP)
Russia needs Stinky to win.

>>513418363 (OP)

Sloviansk is where all this bullshit started so yeah.

>>513418363 (OP)
This will take ~800,000-1.5 million casualties to acquire.

>>513418920
Remember that breakthru a few days ago that every zig zog was celebrating? Azov destroyed it.

>>513419031
Yep, Ukranian that is.

>>513418754
That's the entire point of the negotiations. Does the West want to keep paying for 2 more years of war over this piece of land? How many more women and men is Ukraine willing to lose? Let's find out!

>>513418612
the original azog barely exists.

>>513419122
Should be easy for Russia to walk right on in then!

Russia have been trying to take Kramatorsk for 1% of this millennium so far.

They have another 99 decades to knock on the doors before it starts getting reaaaaaallyy embarrassing!

>>513419089
yeah yeah yeah 2 more weeks and Ukraine is out of men and it's actually Ukraine that is hiding hundreds of thousands of casualties and it was all part of Russia's plan to spend 3 years struggling over random shithole villages in donetsk.

>>513418363 (OP)
Seems like a fair proposal?

>>513419359
It definitely wasn't part of Russia's plan. But all the shill arguments break down at the moment of the following decision: Will Ukraine give up unconquered land? That would be an admission that they've lost. Will Russia end the war without capturing Donbas? Likewise.

>>513418996
Free my nigga Girkin

>>513419359
What was the side that received 6000 of their own corpses in exchange of 60 or so from the enemy??
Kek

>>513419435
Any sustainable solution needs lining up with geography.
It's been the issue all along.
The whole region needs a reroll

>>513419512
like it's obvious that Ukraine isn't going to win but the war won't end if Ukraine capitulates, it will just be paused for 10 years. They need to trade casualties as efficiently as possible to kill as many Russians as possible for as few Ukrainians as possible until they lose the donbass and possibly the rest of zaporizhzhia.

>>513419359
Also, Ukraine is not hiding hundres of thousands, Ukraine has 2 million casualties, as per their graveyards growth

>>513419435
Was this even worth 1M+ dead russkies
and 850,000$ per day for the last 3.5 years?

>>513418481
The future of russia all depends on this slavshit shithole

>>513419727
>lose Zapo

Have you been there, lol? It'll be a fucking bloodbath of immense proportions. It'll make Mariupol look like a paintball match.

>>513419607
14:1 russkike.

>>513418363 (OP)

Trump's vanity will be Russia's undoing if they go back on this, and I think Putin understands that. Trump is not going to look like the fool when the chips fall and will end Russia if it means he comes out on top. A broke clock is right twice a day, which is perhaps the foreign policy American leaders should have approached the Soviets/Russians with the entire time. Patton/LeMay/MacArthur advocated it, Trump will see it through. Politics is a helluva a thing, anons.

As backstabbing/two-faced as Russians are, they've finally encountered the bull in the China shop that just doesn't give a fuck.

>>513419607
>the side that is advancing can retrieve more corpses
>that side also doesn't want corpses of most of the degenerate criminals it's using to face scout for artillery
this can be explained 1,000 times and retarded thirdies won't understand it
if Russia was maintaining a positive casualty ratio this war would be over already. They were at or near parity for the first year of the war but went harshly negative during Bakhmut and have never returned to casualty parity.

>>513418363 (OP)
Then another million will die, not my problem.

>>513419552
>Free my nigga Girkin
Strelkov will get him out of prison don't worry

>>513419797
TZD is priceless

>>513419874
It's actually 16 Ukranians per 1 Russian tho
PR counteroffensiyvs are a hell of a drug LMAO

>>513418445
Stil smells

>>513419797
Oh it is. It is worth 3 million dead ruskikes.

>>513418481
Are you and the Austrian on duty today? Noticed both of you spamming multiple threads in unison

>>513420034
imagine character profiling people on an anonymous image board.
you autistic fucking spastic. haahaha.

>>513419202
it is, thats why they're doing that. khokhol.

>>513419552
Seriously. He's the most incisive commentator on the whole war. A genuine patriot and hero too. The fact that Puton would lock up a man of such uncompromising character really shows how much of a rat Putin is.

>>513419934
LOL, sure sure, Ukraine, the side that is conscripting 18 yrs old, men over 60 yrs old and women is the side that has no casualties
Russia is the side that has 5 million casualties, that's why they mobilized some reserves and rely on volunteers KEK
these propaganda retards can't even do 2+2
Make up shit a bit more realistic

>>513419871
It will be, but Russia is likely willing to absorb the casualties. As long as they have siberian villages and prisons to clear out they have manpower that is not only free for them to expend, but is a net benefit to the state. Russia does not need these people, they are only a drain. The entire state is an oil cartel and anyone not involved in resource extraction is a burden. Village peasants don't have the density or proximity to seats of power to ever be a political threat. So long as they don't need to conscript from Moscow or St. Petersburg there will be no problem politically.

>>513419968
That Kremlin kike propaganda be putting holes in your brain ruskike. You can’t reach Kiev. Simple as. Your army sucks a bag of dicks. Embarrassing display of war capabilities. r*ssia will collapse after losing in Ukraine like they did after losing in Afghanistan. Remember this post.

>>513420098
You should at least change up your writing style so it appears to be organic. Or just hang yourself, which you will in a few years anyway

Shills, you don't need to argue anymore. If Russia agrees to freeze the current front lines, then it's a Ukrainian victory. Just don't come around crying if they don't :-)

>>513420140
>conscripting 18 year olds
they are not
>60 year olds
they are not
>5 million casualties
not even Ukraine claims this
I hope they at least pay you to be this stupid.

>>513420209
Holee delusions, surely Russia will collapse any day now, that's why Trump recognized today that NATO stated that it woudn't expand beyond Germany and MacGregor stated that NATO is exaust against Russia alone KEKEKEK

Fresh Russian suicide

>>513420305
They are
They are
Ukraine claims that Russia fights riding donkeys wielding shovels and can't win against them despit unlimited NATO funds and weapons LMAO

>>513420375
Finland status? Sweden status? God damn you ruskikes are stupid. Invade Ukraine to stop NATO expansion, what happens? NATO expansion. 1400km of new NATO border expanded upon r*ssia.

>>513420383
Stupid ass ruskikes deserve this.

>>513420476
>>513420375
Moлoдeц кaкoй, 7 кoммeнтoв пo 15 кoпeeк
Чyть бoльшe pyбля зapaбoтaл

>>513420573
I mean, it was NATO that said that it would not expand, meaning that Russian reconquista is justified, simple as.

>>513418363 (OP)
Add Odessa and Dnipopetrovsk just for fun.

>>513420686
Faggotnigger, use engrishu on cuckchan

The tim and eric park joke

Shouldn't shoot haitians on detention camps

>>513420383
Fresh nafocuck mald. Youre losing

>>513420894
14:1

>>513419874
kremlin disinfo you vatnik! The real ratio is 6000000:1

>>513418363 (OP)
>Russia is not ending the war
Could've stopped there. Russia loves war, it never ends. There might be temporary peace but only because they're running out of hardware and need a few years to restock.

>>513418754
Ukraine won't last 2 more months. If America hops off Ukraine's resistance will crumble rapidly. Simple as. There is nothing the EU clowns can do about it. They know it's over, they already entered the bargaining phase.

>>513420697
What does it matter if reconquista is 'justified' if Russia is incapable of actually carrying it out? The US nuking Israel into non-existence is justified too, but that's not going to happen either.

>>513420959
Why do you parade so pridefully that so many Ukranians die?

>>513418865
> It's the most heavily defended part of the frontline
Their Maginot Line, kek

>>513420894
Did this guy know he was winning?

>>513420703
you're utterly delusional if you think Odessa is happening bud.
why can't people just have realistic takes on this slavic slapfight? it's really not hard to find good information and identify what is obvious shilling.

>>513420098
imagine being so obviously identifiable on an anonymous image board. you 'people' need to get jobs

>>513420959

>>513421011
I disagree, if you want the war to be over it is time to put in boots on the ground. With Russia attacking the north and nato the south Ukraine will fold in no time

>>513420305
do you have a fat deposit on your forehead that impinges your brain? they are literally dragging these guys off the streets and chucking them in trenches 2 weeks later

>>513418481
stalingrad but walkable

>>513421011
Two months, alright, I'll remember that.

>>513420959
do you eat turds out of trump's arse hole? because that's where that number came from

>>513421014
America (the owner of the rabid dog and absolute lord of NATO) has been forced into the negotiation table with Russia, that says everything, Russia managed to exhaust the biggest military alliance ever, it's only real ally in this war is NK.
Russia has NATO on check, if they compromise any more on this single conflict, China will just get to own the world for free LMAO

>>513420959
Fake news. You lost.

>>513421140
If Ukraine fights "to the last hohol" Odessa as well as Dnipopetrovsk will become Russian. Inevitably. Russia would take the prize for their high blood toll. But I expect the EUSSR to pull the ripcord long before Ukraine loses access to the Black Sea. If not now then in two months when the lack of American support hits Ukraine in the back.

>>513421121
Yup. He won teritorry for Russia for all eternity and died happy. Didnt watch btw. I dont watch your gorecope.

>>513421285
Yes? They aren't 18 year olds or 60 year olds. Current conscription age is 25. Also a significant portion of those videos are misleading/fake examples of men being arrested for non-conscription related offenses. But obviously any country which has conscription has people to enforce conscription and there are people, in their 20s, being dragged off the streets. Same shit happened to some draft dodgers in the US during the world wars, same shit happened when Russia was conscripting during its manpower shortage early in the war.
>see video
>omg this confirms this extreme talking point i read because it kind of looks like it even though I don't have the real context for the video

>>513419797
It was a stealth way to get rid of the men who are dumb enough to fight this war. The remaining men who stayed at home now get all get Russian harems.

>>513421675
>died happy
Do happy people usually commit suicide while giving the drone the finger?

>>513418363 (OP)
without this, actually

>>513421820
Yup. Theyre ready to meet god. You lost. Didnt watch.

>>513421763
To the last hylhyl i guess

>>513421933
>doesn't capitalize God
Hmm

>>513421405
Inch by inch in exchange for trillion of dollars and millions of lives. Crazy that we wager this.

>>513421190
>soldiers in le war le.... died?

>>513421763
if you think the meat catchers give a shit about the age of the fodder you're fatter than you sound. they have quotas to meet or they get sent to the trenches

Donbas is Russia. Crimea is Russia. More will be Russia in the future.

>>513421847
What about this map Husari

>>513420962
6000000-1? I thought it was closer to 12000000-.5 you fucking zigger! You are thinking of the ghost of Kiev

>>513419825
>The future of russia all depends on this slavshit shithole
The future of the world depends on what happens in Ukraine.

>>513418481
What's it like being retarded?

>>513418865
>It will take a lot longer than 2 years for Russia to take that. It's the most heavily defended part of the frontline and they haven't even reached it yet.
I wish you niggers understood how wars work so you would stop saying dumb shit.

>>513419038
>Remember that breakthru a few days ago that every zig zog was celebrating? Azov destroyed it.
It's still there on liveuamap.

>>513420127
The problem with Girkin is that he thinks like a military man instead of a politician.

>>513419512
>It definitely wasn't part of Russia's plan.
What was Russia's plan?

>>513419727
>it's obvious that Ukraine isn't going to win but the war won't end if Ukraine capitulates, it will just be paused for 10 years.
Depends to what manner Ukraine capitulates. Ukraine is not a real country. If Ukraine didn't ban men from leaving on day one, this war would have been over three years ago.

>>513419797
>Was this even worth 1M+ dead russkies
The defeat of Ukraine isn't only the defeat of Ukraine.

>>513421140
>why can't people just have realistic takes on this slavic slapfight?
Look in the fucking mirror.

>>513421763
>Current conscription age is 25.
Correct, but Ukrainian demographics were the worst in the world even before the war began(3.5x more 35-year olds than 1-year olds), and after the war began, every male under the age of 18 left before their 18th birthday. The number of 18-22 year-olds in Ukraine is pretty much zero(the only ones who stayed were professionals in Kiev whose jobs are too important to be drafted). Basically, even if they lower the draft age to 18, there would basically be no one to draft.

>>513418363 (OP)
should take all of ukraine. fuck europe. it chose shit skins over its own people. Z

>>513421405
A war of attrition does not follow a linear function as you suggest. As long as both sides have the resources manpower and material to maintain a frontline it shows little to no progress but once either side runs out of these you will see dramatic changes on the battlefield and an accelerating collapse of resistance on the exhausted side. It seems that Ukraine is finally running out of manpower and this lets Russian troops infiltrate, do sabotage and fight behind the frontline. This is devastating to Ukrainian morale. What use are Ukraine's formidable fortifications if Russia can just circumvent them? Russian troops are like water pouring in through every little gap the lack of defenders leaves open.

>>513419512

>>513418481
see the city of Pokrovsk?
that city is currently defended by around 160.000 troops that city alone need an amount of troops that is 4 times the size of the canadian entire army to be protected
the population of canada male age between 18 and 35 is around 4.000.000. hence 4% of that segment of male population would be require for canada to defend just one city.
this perspective should help in understanding the game being played here.

>>513419038
Russia just moved a mechanized brigade into the pocket and is expanding it. Tje counteroffensyiv got crushed and the azovites have no more fight in them. It's up to the busified conscripts to hold the line while Azov blocks any possible retreat.

>>513419727
They have been fighting in that region for thousands of years. I dont know what my tax dollars have to do with it.
Russia's demands have been for Ukraine to demilitarize and for Zelensky to hit the road.
They will install a puppet and there will not be fighting anytime soon. And since its Ukraine, (since its fucking RUSSIA!), I dont have the slightest problem with that.

>>513423426
surrender status?

>>513422849
>A war of attrition does not follow a linear function as you suggest.
You're wasting your time. People around here think wars are like levels in video games.

They could probably figure it out if they wanted to, but why would they want to?

>>513422694
> The number of 18-22 year-olds in Ukraine is pretty much zero
Little anecdote: the son of former ambassador to Germany Andrij Melnyk is 23 years old, fit for service, and currently enjoys parties in Berlin while Ukraine runs out of meat to feed the grinder.

>>513419038
Lol who tells him?

>>513418363 (OP)
>Sloviansk
The crown jewel of all of North East Slavia.

>>513423617
Anyone willingly fighting for Ukraine is retarded. I don't even fault the guy.

For that matter, if I was Kikelensky, I would do just as he is doing. I never fault a man for behaving rationally.

>>513423405
You just pull numbers out of your ass. You don’t know shit.

Here’s some actual numbers backed up by data:
Average Ukie brigade strength per their doctrine is 3500-4000 depending on type of brigade (mechanized, armoured, air assault)
There are 7 identified brigades operating in Pokrosvk.
In late 2023-2025 Western estimates said Ukrainian brigades were operating at 50-70% average strength.

Knowing this, we can assume:
7th Air Assault Corps (probably 2 brigades understrength) ~4,500–5,000
1st Azov Corps (likely brigade-sized in Pokrovsk, 2,500–3,000)
93rd Mechanized Brigade ~2,500
68th Jaeger Brigade ~2,000
117th Heavy Mechanized Brigade ~2,000
157th Mechanized Brigade ~1,500 or less
25th Airborne Brigade ~2,500

At most they have 18,000 to 19,000 troops there, but probably closer to 15,000 in reality. If attrition was really bad we’re talking between 11,000 and 14,000 soldiers.

So if we take Russian claims seriously that they have amassed 100,000 soldiers in the Pokrosvk direction. We’re talking about 7:1, or even 10:1, in favour of the Russians, and they still haven’t taken that tiny little suburb 20 km away from their main logistics hub in Donestk city, a 30 minute car ride away. That’s so pathetic. No wonder Russians frag themselves. It must be hellish out there.

>>513418363 (OP)
>>513418363 (OP)
>>513418363 (OP)
14
:
1

>>513419797
people make the mistake of looking at the war from the perspective of a normal empathetic human being. The people who run Russia are a Jewish oligarchy financed on severance fees for resource extraction. So those lives have pretty much no value to the people who run Russia if not negative value. It's like asking if Iraq was worth trillions of dollars and thousands of lives for the USA, it obviously wasn't but kikes made money on it.

>>513426514
Ukrainian:
>president: Jew
>prime minister: Jew
>foreign minister: Jew
>Jew population of Ukraine: <1%
but tell us more about Russia, Moshe

>>513418363 (OP)
No, the west has to leave Ukriane. Zelensky has to leave and the constitution has to be rewritten

Are we really already at the "Russia didnt really win!" coping now?

>>513426514
>>513427291
The entire Ukrainian government is either Jewish or a cryptokike. Ukikes and their supporters always accuse others of what they themselves are guilty.

>>513419921
Why are you driveling like a western journalist? If you know nothing substantial to say, just be silent.

>>513420686
Is that a lot of money in Ukraine?

>>513427409
In a decade we'll be hearing the same kind of shit about Ukraine that we've heard about Vietnam our whole lives.

>>513421763
>Also a significant portion of those videos are misleading/fake examples of men being arrested for non-conscription related offenses.
Is that how police arrests work in your lawless third world shithole?

>>513418754
don't you just love the memes that nafo and vatnik shills make? Pol truly is a den of many different kinds of glowniggers. We probably only have 1 domestic fbi agent that gets rotated out to prevent global him from getting redpilled. There's far more international glowniggers here especially the Israelis.

>>513429341
Look up who the major sponsors behind 4chan are. The entire website is run by corporate glowniggers. They're systematically grooming little boys into anime-loving, woman-hating incel faggots who play with anime dolls and masturbate to anime cartoons every day.

>>513419038
>Azov destroyed it.
Everyone with the rightful claim to that name died at Mariupol or was captured. Another unit was later created and given the same name. It does not have any continuity of personnel. It is not the same unit. The breakthrough is still happening right now and Ukrainian soldiers still cannot go to that red place on the map. Maybe there will be a third unit to bear the name Azov.

>>513419727
>the war won't end if Ukraine capitulates
What objective do you imagine would remain for Russia after a total capitulation of Ukraine? They dont' even want to annex all of Ukraine. Modern Ukraine owes its existence to the fact Russia didn't want it.

>>513418363 (OP)
They should be attacking through the Ardennes. Nobody expects that.

To the last rusnigger.
For the putin's yacht.

>>513418754
>2 more years
Uh...

Russian forces have captured less than 1% of Ukraine over the past 1,000 days of war

In the last 1,010 days Russia seized 5,842 km2 of Ukrainian territory, which amounts to just 0.97% of the country. As of November 12, 2022, 108,651 km2 were under occupation, while by August 17, 2025, the figure had risen to 114,493 km2.

They stressed that Russia’s biggest gains came in the first days of the invasion. Afterwards, Ukraine’s Armed Forces managed to liberate significant areas, particularly in Kharkiv and Kherson regions. Since then, Russia has continued its offensive, but without major advances.

>>513427291
>tell us more about Russia
president: crypto Jew
his closest advisor: Jew
prime minister: Jew
foreign minister: Armenian (crypto Jew)
Jewish population:>1%

>>513431339
capturing urine was never the goal stupid nafo troon.

it is something you focus on to cope.
always has been

>>513425394
if you think a force that's already superior in firepower has such an enormous numbers advantage without progress, you're just retarded. Either of the 2 numbers you made up will just be entire bullshit

russia is not ending this war without going below 100 milion population

>>513418363 (OP)
>dobropillia
What kind of really disgusting sexual fetish is that?

>>513418865
>>513431339

NATO lost.

>>513433937

Ukranny is in free fall demographic collapse and its made even worse because their Jewish president is marching the orthodox Christian population into a meat grinder.

>>513418363 (OP)
Pretty sure russia doesn't actually control Chasiv Yar.

>>513418363 (OP)
Looking at Google Earth, I see there's a town here called Niu-York, which made me chuckle.

>>513418363 (OP)
Ok then they have to sacrifice another million russian citizens. They can't get that thing for free lol

>>513419038
you know its bad when azov are the only reserves left

>>513418363 (OP)
Why do brown people love russia so much?

>>513432968
what was the goal then?

>>513435437
To get back at white people for muh colonialism

>>513434908

butthurt belters will ignore the evidence

The thing is, they knew this was a probable outcome at the onset. They, nato, the us, etc chose to have Ukraine fight and sacrifice some 500k men and greatly harm their country when the end result was always going to be the same.

It's sad for Ukraine. But people need to stop being retarded and accept the fact that it's well documented the aggressions of the past. We 1000% were involved in the 2014 coup. It's not even worth talking fine print, because it's a fact. ANd you know it's a fact because the fucking CIA was there. ok?

Stop being retarded, we're done playing stupid to be politically correct. You niggers are fucking annoying. You cannot argue this point. You can simply imagine a similar situation in our area. You could imagine mexico for instance, and what if there was a coup like 2014 ukraine in mexico, and KGB was there, and a government friendly to BRICS / Russia emerged? That is a 1:1 comparison of the Ukraine situation. And the only possible way to evaluate that is to say that if the KGB was there in ANY capacity, it would raise justified belief that they were behind the coup. As is the case in 2014.

John Brennan, John McCain, Victoria Nuland and many other deep state creeps were over there doing some weird shit w\ Ukraine and they knew it would lead to conflict. You can see this by looking at what they said at the Ukraine impeachment. They had the war planned and sure enough, as soon as Biden was in it was on and poppin.

Zelensky needs to make a deal and then give Trump his peace prize.

>>513435524
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html over 4000 lost tanks, mersham

>>513425394
russia is no where close using 100,000 soldiers in pokrovsk lmao
ukraine still has a numerical 1.5+ to 1 advantage everywhere in the conflict.

>>513418363 (OP)
> Russia is not ending the war without this, simple as.

>>513435444
to bleed out the west (not meaning people) in attrition war they can't afford and force them to accept our geopolitical demands.
among many many other things.

hohols are just for decorations.

>>513431339
And have killed over million NATO soldiers.

>513435695
>oryx
lmao nafo trannies still using this in 2025

>>513435709
So you are exchanging russian lives for westoid tax money? Bold strategy.

Root problem is Putin is a spy not a soldier.
He doesn't know how to fight a war. He's been out of his depth throughout this conflict.
Original plan was a bloodless "coup de main" which would have quickly captured Kiev and other major cities before Ukrainians had time to react.
This failed, and a real war began, and Putin has been confused and drifting ever since.
Problem is aggravated by fact that (like Stalin) he fears his generals, so is reluctant to give them freedom to conduct operations as they see fit.

>>513435759
What are memeflagging indians using in 2025?

>>513435815
here have a monster you look thirsty

>>513418363 (OP)
Constantinople status?

>>513418363 (OP)
Great, give it to them. People on the other side of the world could care less how ukraine is hacked up. They have been militarily defeated, to the victor goes the spoils and all that.

>>513435782
no we are waging a war to get back our geopolitical influence as well as other things.

war were fought for smaller shit than this.

it is a big deal stupid nafo troon.

>>513420894
NATO hasn’t lost a single soldier yet lol

>>513436095
it is a lie.
we bombed them by hundreds since the very start.

>>513436074
>no we are waging a war to get back our geopolitical influence as well as other things.
Yes, by exchanging russian llives for wectoid tax money.

The sovereignty of every washing machine in Odessa is at risk.
Take the deal, or the washers will never spin again.

>>513436074
>geopolitical influence
>inflation out of control
>increased state surveillance
>crashed car market
>10% of oil refineries out of commission
>disrupted supply chains
>increased diaspora tensions and lost the influence over churkas
>the only industrialization achieved since war is that kids now assemble drones
>WE'RE THE BIG BOYS NOW DA
my sides, my fucking sides

>>513436275
westoid tax money has nothing to do with it.

it is about the limits and capabilities of the west.
by forcing them to admit their hard limit of power we limit their power and get some room to breathe in our own region.

and removing western influence from most of the world because it is being held by nothing but their propaganda.

>>513436337
if it is as bad as you claim it is go back to ukraine - you are not needed here.

>>513418363 (OP)
Russia is such a cancer to the human race. Like a hybrid race of a nigger and jew really

>>513436471
He's right and everyone hates you now as well and nobody believes a word your govt says because they just lie and undermine other homes while causing war. Surveillance state cuckold

>>513436530
no he is not it is one of your latest copes that you mindlessly repeat without giving it a second thought.

as usual nothing but lies from your side for whatever reason.

>>513436452
>to bleed out the west (not meaning people) in attrition war they can't afford
>westoid tax money has nothing to do with it.
hmmm ok
>by forcing them to admit their hard limit of power we limit their power
is the russian power being actually checked here? Russia is trying to project power far into the suburbs od Donetsk?
>and removing western influence from most of the world
western influence is based central banks and tariffs, not on propaganda. Come on now you don't think russia is doing propaganda operations on nigger and jeet minds throughout the world?

>>513436567
You're just a cuckold that is owned by glowniggers what will you do anyway cry online about how you want to bomb Moldova or something lol do you think anyone honestly cares what your putin says? Nobody believes a word when he talks

>>513436680
I always thought that polish posters are smarter than average.
are you this stupid or just a hohol?

>>513436158
you know there is a goy shortage when jews have to hire columbians and cartel members from prisons

>>513436685
you have not heard a word he said on the first place.
you just listen to interpretation and reaction to what he supposedly said.

out of context and out of touch with reality.

>>513436791
she is a hohol tranny refugee shitposting

>>513436791
>I always thought that polish posters are smarter than average.
smarter than average russian? probably
If you didn't go for ad personam attacks, how would you respond to >>513436680 ?

>>513419093
>Does the West want to keep paying for 2 more years of war
our govt would gladly pay for endless war forever

>>513418363 (OP)
That's like 4-5 million more casualties for russia, can they afford that?

>>513436951
lmao
do you think you somehow by dumb luck made a good point :D

and you want me to answer on that stupid shit?

I am not wasting my time on you any longer.

>>513437003
>>if we make up more imaginary numbers up russia will lose
nafo tranny thinking

>>513434038
someone who really likes pillows

>>513437121
dobro means good in russian.
so that name roughly translates to whitepillcity :D

that stupid country is a meme. It was build by soviets to troll 4chan..

>>513437105
I'm sure russia will claim those people never existed

>>513436855
what did you say? youre just some glownigger's bitch and you write what they tell you

>>513437204
they only exist in your tranny mind

>>513437294
>memeflag
so, jeet or jew? the usual trash that support putin

>>513437294
I'm not the one turning graveyards into parking lots

>>513437338
>pole tranny supporting a bandera jewlensky

>>513437389
>makes random shit up
yep, a jew

>>513437338
>>513437294
95% jeet, 5% jew

budjak should be given back to romania

>>513437424
lol wow. every putinist alwayts wind up being a shitting jeet or a lying jew. without exception every. single. time.

>>513418363 (OP)
Russia is not ending the war at all.

They want this zone for free to have no fortification to cross for round 2 after a false flag or whatever excuse putin find to break the deal.

>>513437245
go back to you discord for further instructions nafo troon.