I don't understand what the point of the war even was then. Biolabs? I mean Lavrov says it was about protecting ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine...but they're all dead now and only babushkas are left. And all the ethnic Russian cities there are nothing but rubble. Some protection.

Here's the video of the horse talking. His daughter is an American citizen who lives in NYC btw.

Well, they didn't want them. Hence the almost 8 years trying to get a ceasefire. But the pigs insisted on violence. FAAFO.

Yeah but how does this affect you personally?

>>513478788 (OP)
Neat. So they know they lost.

>>513478788 (OP)
All wars are about sacrificing males and redistributing the females and children to the rest of their chattel to keep them happy and content.

>>513479068
ok pajeet
>>513479070
nothing affects me personally, for I have taken the ataraxia pill

>>513478788 (OP)
He also says russia has never attacked anyone. Ever. Russian lies are next level.

>>513478788 (OP)
>the poltard still doesn't understand that the russian is a lie incarnate

>>513479225
They learned it from the jews in the Pale. Vranyo is just their word for pilpul, and crying out in pain while striking is their default.

>>513478788 (OP)
>stage color revolution in jewkraine
>russia zerg rushes crimea cause of strategically important military bases and difficult location to siege overall if it came to open conflict
>surprisepikachu
>kvetch and seethe
>bomb ethnic russian civilians in the donbas region
>pls stop that
>no lol
>10 years pass of this shit
>prepped economically for the worst
>host military exercise while posturing
>you won't do shit!
>do shit
>what the fuck!?
>nato help!
>they quite literally won't do shit
>host peace talks in turkey
>demand recognition of crimea, assurance ukraine won't join nato, and recognition of the donbas provinces as autonomous regions still part of ukraine
>no lol
>3 years pass
>over 1 million casualties and irreparable damage to the area
>lose 4 regions in the end, possibly more
>how could this happen to me? i made no mistakes!
If taking land means that the violence will eventually stop, so be it.

>>513478788 (OP)
pic very rel anon
hope it clears some air

>>513478788 (OP)
>>513478816
Russia's form of imperialism is so gay. At least we Americans say "we need to bring freedom and liberty to the people there." Russians take this archaic bullshit and say "those people in another country, yeah, they're ACTUALLY RUSSIANS so we get to go in and help them."

It's retarded. They aren't Russians and never were. Doubly laughable because of Putin's anti-nationalist rhetoric.

>>513479375
tl;dr
>>513479463
Putin gave Trump some old maps of the Russian empire in the 18th century to prove Ukraine was never a real country and always just Russia. He should have given him some maps of North America from the same period to prove that the Thirteen Colonies were never a real country and always just England.

>>513478788 (OP)

>dumb mutt doesn't understand diplomatic language

i could explain but you wouldn't get it so what's the point

>>513479634
Well it's true that Ukraine is a Russian successor state, and that the people there share the vast majority of their history with Russia. It makes sense that Russia wants Ukraine to be its friend and within its sphere of influence, because Ukraine didn't exist as anything but a part of the various Russian empires until 30ish years ago.

But I have a problem with Russia's dumb and gay nationalist rhetoric. The people of Ukraine aren't Russians, and don't need protecting. They were Ukrainians despite their shared history. It's just fallacious faggotry. Typical of Russian morons.

>>513479225
I don't understand why they tell so blatantly false lies.
Like the "falling debris" that just happens to fall and destroy ammo depots and oil tanks.

>>513479375
>The russian cries out as he conquers more land

>>513478788 (OP)
The point of the war was that Biden was simultaneously too weak to be taken seriously yet so strong he effectively forced Putin's hand into invading Ukraine.
If Biden were stronger, and never desired war in Ukraine, then Putin would've never had to invade.

>>513478788 (OP)
So they wanted to "protect the russian people" from what? They were in Ukraine attempting to steal land, and Ukraine resisted, and few dozen russians died over several years. So they start a war where hundreds of thousands of russians died to ""protect" them.

>>513478788 (OP)
To be fair, at first they just wanted some kind of protection for the DPR and LPR as a PART OF UKRAINE, not a part of Russia. Then after that was denied by Ukraine, they moved to protect them, then the 4 oblasts. It's been an ongoing escalation, by design.

>>513478788 (OP)

The biolabs story was a lie.

They were Soviet biolabs. After the fall of the Soviet Union, instead of letting a bunch of biological weapons scientists loose on the open market, the US footed the bill. This wasn't an act of genocidal intent, it was generous benevolence.

And the scumbag Russian leadership used this as atrocity propaganda to justify their war.

>>513478788 (OP)
Russia lies. About everything. Even when they don't need to. They will provide no solid ground to build theories on.

>>513478788 (OP)
Did you know that Lavrov's real surname is (((Kalantarian)))? Crazy.

>>513479068
Russia continually broke the every ceasefire. And Russia is the one who found out. They thought it was going to be easy like the crimea. Instead, they ended up destroying their demographics, irreparably.

>>513479777
>Russia wants Ukraine to be its friend
They're doing a great job in that aren't they?>>513479783
>Like the "falling debris" that just happens to fall and destroy ammo depots and oil tanks.
Falling debris are a real menace. They blow up everything in Russia.
>>513480197
>>513480197
>at first they just wanted some kind of protection for the DPR and LPR as a PART OF UKRAINE
uh huh

>>513480432
>Even when they don't need to.
It's because lying in their culture is an expression of power and dominance, not something meant to be believed. The point is to tell the most absurd lie straight to someone's face and dare them to contradict it.

>>513479783
Because the Russian people are stupid enough to believe it. They fugure why not.

>>513478788 (OP)
>Rossi never vvanting to ennex lends in the forst blace don’t you know this? It all VVestern bropaganda we ar beeceful contry sir
>Hosts illegal referendums in 5 Ukrainian oblasts and annexes them like a boss
Who do these niggers think they’re fooling?

>>513480556
They don't actually believe it though.

>>513478788 (OP)
Putins goal was to liberate those parts of Ukraine from the reign of Fascism. Mission accomplished, now his peace troops can come home.
It's like what your troops did in Afghanistan or Iraq.

>>513480473
You only started following this in 2022 didn't you? Maybe even 2023. This has been a calculated neoliberal designed escalation that was meant to result in the European theater of World War Three.

>>513478788 (OP)
russians lie, more news at 11

>>513480812
Why did Putin fall into the trap then?

>>513480183
>So they wanted to "protect the russian people" from what?
From Ukraine. Donetsk and Luhansk declared themselves independent. And by that point they count as Russians, according to Russia.
The irony is that way more Russians would be alive today if Russia had done literally nothing and let Ukraine solve their own problems.

Ukraine is not innocent. But Russia really turbo charged the conflict and made everything 10000x worse.

>>513480927
It was a red line for the Russians honestly.

>>513481027
But why did he fall into the trap?

>>513480470
So true xister. They were just talking about this last night on MSNBC

>>513478788 (OP)
They have known about this since the 6os, docuementaries even have been made, this is nothing new.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2eV4E596is

>>513479463
American Imperialism is literally the gayest. You refuse to admit what you are.
Russian and German imperialism is at least linked with Blood and Soil.

>>513478788 (OP)
> but they're all dead now
No, about three million of them fled to Russia.

>>513479225
> He also says russia has never attacked anyone. Ever.
Source? Link? Butthurt Belt delusion again.

>>513481166
Russia thought it was in their national interest to act. They saw a color revolution in Ukraine take over and oust a neutral government, and saw a threat to their bases in Crimea. The color revolution sparked the discontent in the LPR and DPR which caused Ukraine to crack down violently there. That went on for years until Russia formally intervened militarily in 2022 after more threats of escalation and NATO membership by the Biden administration.

This is all public knowledge btw, you can read about this.

>>513480183
> So they wanted to "protect the russian people" from what?
Crucification?

>>513481354
Glad you have electricity today D'tembe.
>>513481362
But they were already in Russia
>>513481447
>Russia thought it was in their national interest to act.
But why? You said it was a trap, and I asked why Putin fell into the trap. I guess you explained why in the rest of your post, but clearly the reasons given were a mistake that led them into a trap.

>>513481581
I just fucking told you, stop being dense. They fell into the trap because they thought their black sea fleet naval base was under threat. That was the initial reaction by Russia, besides the condemnation of the color revolutionary coup.

>>513481657
>They fell into the trap because they thought their black sea fleet naval base was under threat
Okay but most of the black sea fleet is at the bottom of the black sea now, or perm stuck in port away from Crimea hiding.

>>513478788 (OP)
it was never about land, it was about stopping NAFO expansion and defending Russian speakers living in jewkraine. however, whatever land is conquered is to keep. so it's a win win

>>513481929
It's a decade later now.

>>513481951
Russia is demanding land they haven't conquered yet though.

>>513482066
Not worth the hundred billion it would cost in propping the Ukrainian government up imo

>>513482066
they are offering jewlenski to surrender now and they'll get to keep unconquered land, otherwise they are going to lose even more land because Russia ain't stopping since it doesn't have to. Wars are profitable.

americans just cannot deal with countries whose governments lie to them, they are too gulliable - same reason why they got overtaken by israel so easily

>>513478788 (OP)
>We rolled tanks into your country by *total accident*! They just got lost one day, would you believe it. They're not going home again though.

>>513478788 (OP)
>I don't understand what the point of the war even was then.
Because you’re stupid.

From the very beginning of the invasion, Putin said in his announcement that Russia was not going to seize Ukraine, and during the first peace negotiations in 2022 only minimal demands were put forward: recognition of the choice of the Crimeans and the rebellious Donbass as an autonomous territory within Ukraine, after which Russian troops would leave the territory of Ukraine. You’re stupid and you create stupid threads.

>>513478788 (OP)
God I hope they will somehow miraculously actually give up the territories and fully end the war. Probably not gonna happen

>>513482066
Why would Russia want peace if they're on the offensive and will gain that land anyway through fighting? Their proposal is to trade that land they haven't taken but eventually would in the Donbas for all the land they own in Ukraine outside of the 4 oblasts.

>>513482393
>one day, for no reason at all putler illegally invaded ukraine

>>513481354
>American Imperialism is literally the gayest. You refuse to admit what you are.
>Russian and German imperialism is at least linked with Blood and Soil.
Shit take. We admit what we are, and say we're going in to overthrow the local government so that it matches our politics better.

Russian and German imperialism is literally just pretending that some other country's people are actually your people. Nothing to do with "blood and soil" in any true sense. It's retarded.

>>513478788 (OP)
It's almost as if they signed a peace deal a month into the war that guaranteed the rights of ethnic russians, ukrainian neutrality, and full territorial integrity, and then the hohols renegged it. The war goal now is THD

>>513481529
Anything that makes Ukraine look bad is fake, Ukraine has never done a single bad thing ever. Also there was no civil war, it was only Russian soldiers in Donbas, also Russia bombed Donetsk as a false flag, but even if Ukraine did bomb Donbas they deserved it, but they’re also not Russians.

>>513479783
maybe you should stop lisening to balt retards pulling shit out of their ass

>>513482288
No, they're demanding more land they don't control so you're just wrong.
>>513482397
>From the very beginning of the invasion, Putin said in his announcement that Russia was not going to seize Ukraine
Putin said Russia had no intention of invading Ukraine and it was just military excercises that the CIA was spreading lies about.

>>513482413
>Why would Russia want peace if they're on the offensive and will gain that land anyway through fighting?
Why would Russia want land anyway? They're the largest country on earth by far.

>>513482413
Why would Russia rather settle the matter without wasting thousands of lives???? What a fucking mystery dude.

>>513479225
It works for playing the orange king migger.

>>513479286
>Vranyo is just their word for pilpul
Nafotrannies treating an ordinary word like some kind of evil incantation will never be not funny.

>>513482604
>No, they're demanding more land they don't control so you're just wrong.
prove it, tranny.

>>513482468
>germany
austria, sudeten, alsace & danzig were all german areas thus justified
>russia
southern ukraine is russian thus justified
>america
dying for israel and (((democracy))) with no actual gains, old american imperialism like pushing for manifest destiny is peak kino though

>>513482697
It's not a normal word. It's a word that refers to a specific form of lying that is common in China but alien to whites.

>>513482730
No, I'm not going to waste my time with (You). Back to picking plantains now.

>>513482670
I agree with you lol, but they're going to want something for stopping their momentum.
They're not doing it for free.
>>513482655
>Why would Russia want land anyway?
I'm still wondering if you're just ignorant on the topic or being intentionally dense. Anyway, the 4 oblasts on that map along the eastern border voted to join the russian federation, so according to russian law they are an actual part of Russia.
It's already a compromise that Russia isn't seeking the rest of Kherson or Zaporizhzia, which I don't think they would be able to take anyway.
They could take the rest of Donetsk though.

>>513479225
I guess they are just at some point gonna call you russophobic for pointing it out just like jews like to call things antisemitic, but I guess this works against white people.

>>513482820
I thought so, hohol kike

>>513479225
The CIA/NAFO state is the one who performed the aggression by illegally taking over Ukraine to build up a base on Russia's doorstep just like they do with Iran.

Russia is the defender in this war lets be real.

>>513482830
Why would Russia want land?

>>513482906
Ah ok intentionally dense. Fuck off faggot it's nafover

>>513482604
Nevertheless, at the peace negotiations minimal demands were put forward, guided by the UN Charter on the self-determination of nations, which Zelensky rejected under pressure from Boris Johnson. A stupid attempt at evasion. You’re really very stupid. Better ask yourself why the leaders of NATO countries need this war and why they take part in peace negotiations and put forward some of their own demands to Russia.

>>513481445
>butthurt belt
Isn't it weird how all of their neighbors hate them

>>513482750
Manifest destiny is peak kino.
The stars next.

>>513478788 (OP)
What does he mean never, they aim to do it now dont they? I hate dishonesty

>>513482996
>minimal demands were put forward
What were the demands? Nothing was said about them publicly so how do you know what they are.

>>513482413
> will gain that land anyway through fighting?
Because gaining that land through negotiation would spare some toll in blood.

>>513482655
As a buffer zone to a hostile nation.

>>513482996
lol! these retards aren't happy the meeting didn't go the way they all planned. they thought they could show up and bully Trump into submission, instead Trump took them on 3 hour lecture about best stats all over

>>513478788 (OP)
Ukraine was pushing to end Russia culture which historically was founded in Keiv, and at the same time flamboyantly pushing a lot of gay satanic nazi culture. Putin talked about this in his interview with Tucker.

https://archive.ph/QmRNC

>>513483130
Yes I know, the implication is they wouldn't make peace without the land.

>>513478788 (OP)
lavrov is a vice man, he wants peace and returning to making oil moneys with their buddies

>>513482604
> Putin said Russia had no intention of invading Ukraine
This of course was only a necessary ruse.

>>513482762
>let me tell you about your language
It's literally just a common noun for lies, retarded troon.

>>513478788 (OP)
Lavrov is correct and we shouldn't be twisting his words around or denying the root causes that led to the SMO. Nothing good will come from that (the past 3.5 years proves this). The West and Ukraine must admit what it did in 2014 and come to grips with the fact that overthrowing their own president was a massive mistake that led to a nasty civil war for 8 years before Putin got directly involved. Had that not happened, there would've been no war. And now that there is a war Russia has no obligation to return anything they've taken during that extremely dangerous period of leaderlessness we endured under Biden after Trump had the election stolen from him.

>>513483130
>As a buffer zone to a hostile nation.
But denazification would make Ukraine a non hostile nation, so why is a buffer zone needed? Has Russia given up on denazification?

>>513483280
I'm sure everything Putin offers in peace negotiations will be only a necessary ruse as well.
>>513483298
No, it's not. Vranyo isn't normal lying. Dostoyevsky wrote a famous essay on this that you clearly haven't read. Sad!

>>513483046
> all of their neighbors
Belarusians, Best Koreans and Chinese seem to like them. Only neighbors under the influence of toxic Western propaganda hate them. How weird!

>>513483368
why do rich people buy adjacent lots and keep them undeveloped or empty? you always want a buffer zone so when nigger is at your actual property you're more than justified in shooting them

>>513478788 (OP)
All people have been dead in that place already like third time in last 100 years. All possible armies went through and genocided everyone whatever war was starting in europe. Don't worry somehow people appear there again all the time.

>>513483493
>panicked namedropping
As already said, retarded faggots trying to force some ridiculous headcanon for foreign words will never be not funny.

>>513483298
>stop noticing things!!!

>>513483493
man, i dont think real putin is making decisions any more.- they have a body double(s) putin running around and lavrov is probably the new tsar

>>513483123
They were announced publicly after the negotiations. You’re so stupid, lmao

>>513483367
The whole reason this even happened to begin with is because the entire western world became collectively retarded and decided you should never negotiate with mean poo poo pants nations ever under any circumstances. As it turns out when you refuse diplomacy you make war inevitable. Literally none of this would have happened if all Ukraine said was “okay we’ll uphold the treaty we signed and stop massing arms along the border” but instead they just kept going “you won’t do shit” and then acted shocked when Russia actually did something.

The only thing this entire shitshow has proven is Russians are far more resilient than the west and infinitely more stubborn.

Stupid thread from stupid retard.

>>513483550
I can't speak for other countries (as you apparently very easily can) but we hated them lomg before "western" was even a thing. Do with your newfound information what you will.

>>513483368
> But denazification would make Ukraine a non hostile nation
This would require they conquer all of Ukraine and install a puppet regime in Kiev. Russia would probably do this if it wasn't such a blood drain and economical burden.

>>513479375
How difficult is it for you personally to take Putin’s cock out of your mouth so you can breathe? Must be challenging given how much you like to suck it.

>>513483939
It must be annoying for people to actually keep track of all the retarded shirts yiur country says as its justification to wage its retarded forever war.

>>513483939
hey neighbor!

>>513484024
> lomg before "western" was even a thing
You didn't live back then. You grew up under the influence of western propaganda, not under the influence of knowing history.

Yoy fags still trust what universal D&C ZOGcommies say?

>>513484302
These things trickle down from father to son and so on. Just as you're making generalizations about me right now.
Anyway, that's all I have to say on the matter. Carry on.

>>513484302
and you grew up in a safety that your masters wish to destroy, and for that I will hang you one day

Concious awareness is when you percieve essence beyond theres a lot on perception and general lack of open understanding, as to free thought would've willed.

>>513484185
Hey neighbor!

>>513480812
What an amazing plan, where Russia keeps doing exactly what they want it to do.

>>513484655
high quality memes came from that summit.
I'm not sure why there's hype for just a Zelensky-Putin meeting, I want the Zelensky-Putin-Trump meeting.
>>513484716
They want Russia to attack NATO nations, clearly.

>>513481447
>all public knowledge

Yes, the Kremlin have spent years putting this narrative out there.

>>513478816
Thats big load of bullshit entire clip. Russians didnt build shit there, they never lived there centuries. Russia has just relocated lot of people around so they can claim land and "protect" russians.

>>513482996

>>513480432 jewmerica lies abt russia more than russia lies abt jewkraine

>>513482996
An underrated aspect of this picture is Karoline's tits look fucking massive.

>>513479375
>literally genocide the fighting age males you were supposed to protect

>>513482540 stay in denial retarded jewmerican

>>513483926
That's how I feel too. I was never on board with this perpetual escalation against the Russians. I respect them, their "red lines", and believe their concerns should also be our concerns, and vice versa. There's no real good reason (post USSR) why we shouldn't be united with them in a similar way to how we are with the Europeans. The world would be a much safer place for everyone if we put our grievances behind us and learned to work together. I hope there's still a possibility of this becoming a reality some day.

The Russo-Ukrainian War's primary goal is a major step in the Jew NWO development in transitioning the post-WWII Unipolar World into the Multipolar World following the 10 Regions Map drawn by the Club of Rome.

The US-EURO Faction gets to steal and launder tax payer funds through Ukraine into the hands of the MIC and NGOs. The NGOs get to further the Jew Multiculturalism and Cloward-Piven Strategy against the Western Countries by importing Ukrainian Refugees. The NGOs will of course also kidnap and traffic women and children for the sex slave trade, the Moloch Sacrifices of the Elites, and organ harvesting for purposes of keeping Jews alive due to their plethora of strange blood diseases like Tay-Sachs.

The Russian Faction gets to further the influence and development of BRICS, which in turn advances the Jew NWO goals unto a Multipolar World.

The Chaba Lubavitch Jews gets revenge on the Slavs for destroying Khazaria by throwing the Slavs onto the battlefields of Ukraine and getting them to slaughter each other in a brother vs brother war. They also further their plans towards creating New Khazaria, which in turn is just one part of their Heavenly Jerusalem Plan, which is a combination of Ukraine and Greater Israel as one state.

They also get to test, refine, and perfect Drone Warfare, which will be integral in the enforcement of their planned and developing Global Panopticon Surveillance System.

There is more but meh.

>>513483885
Go argue with this anon then>>513482730

we russians will only retreat behind 2014 borders if thereafter the evil dictator zelensky will be forced to write out real democratic election observed by the UN. these are our demands and we wont take anything less!

>>513479783
Its a means of control. If you act like you have something to hide, the idea that truth still has power and that people could rise up against you and your lies might exist in people's minds.

Go in front of a group of 10 people and say that sky is purple. One person speaks up to say that the sky is clearly blue, and you blast him in half with a shotgun.
The same man asks the remaining 9 people what color the sky is. What do you think their answer will be?

You do this often enough, and the fact that your lies are nonsensical no longer matters. People have been trained to accept and repeat them as fast as they can. Because not doing so has consequences. First they repeat it, and then they accept and normalize it, and maybe they never actually believe it but they know they always have to act like they do and it gets real blurry what people actually believe or not.

>>513484806 kiev was russia capital for centuries before moscow was built. this just shows u dont know shit abt history and u follow the medias lies

>>513478816
>His daughter is an American citizen who lives in NYC btw.
Most of their fortunes are essentially stolen from the post-Soviet collapse and laundered through the West, where it's safer and easier to hide. This explains the Trump connection and golden visa bullshit too, luxury real estate ($5M and up) is one of the primary ways to launder money in the US. This happened in the UK, the nickname 'Londongrad' refers to that. This isn't schizo nonsense either, it's really that bad. A handful of authors have started writing about it already.

>>513481529
>Crucification
Nice Runglish.

>>513479908
It's because you retards just can't be fucking content with being a sovereign country.
Take a look at Mongolia, Pekka, take an example.
Take a look at Kazakhstan.
Take a look at Azerbaijan (they're being uppity right now, but for a plethora of reasonable reasons)

>>513478788 (OP)
>Russia tells lie
>"Wow I just don't understand why this demonstrably false lie is actually true!"
You're just as credulous as Trump himself

they don't want ukraine to be part of NATO

>>513485965
How would US react if Russia did a coup in Canada or Mexico?

>>513479375
what if its just about killing off slavs///a sort of ethnic cleansing.

>>513478788 (OP)
>protecting ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine...but they're all dead now
No they are not you complete , oh wait this is the new shill spin.
Yeah not going to work plus most know there was an agreement for peace before and the eu ordered it torched.
Thanks to the eu for getting so involved with the "peace talks" proving they have been a sticking point all along.

>>513478788 (OP)
what becomes of the trad Russian camgirls?

>>513478788 (OP)
And thanks again for
>ADMITTING THE AZOV WAS TRYING TO GENOCIDE THOSE SEEN AS "ETHNICALLY RUSSIAN" IN THE FIRST PLACE
You are trying an acceptance narrative but that actually tells people the first part was right all along.
You played yourself.

>>513478788 (OP)
Persecuted ukrainuans (russians) had a civil war in ookraine, created their own countries, split off from ookraine and asked russkis for help.

>>513486344
As part of the US-Russian trade deal after peace, all MAGA voters get a qt russian gf.

>>513486418
>had a civil war in ookraine
Sorry but op already admitted to GENOCIDE.

>>513486067
If Russia invades Canada, a lot of people gave to get involved. Thats invasion of a NATO nation, so shit gets real fast.

>>513486067
Russia tried a coup in Ukraine through buying the government. The people wouldn't have it and now you're eternally assblasted.

>>513478788 (OP)
>babushkas
Are they hot?

>>513486510
A coup is not an invasion, you absolute retard.

>>513486565
>Russia tried a coup in Ukraine through buying the government.
What government are you talking about?
Yanukovich, was political corpse with no chance of reelection that was glowniggered out less than a year from the actual Presidential elections just so the kikes handpicked by the Department of State could dismantle the party that was representing the western Ukraine?

>>513479068
Kys Prattyuksh Bansal

>>513486565
>Russia tried a coup in Ukraine through buying the government.
EVEN IF this was the case then the governments response is to try AND KILL ALL THOSE SEEN AS "ETHNICALLY RUSSIAN" living inside their borders?
I did 'nazi' that one commin, wait your flag - you should of kek

>>513486883
>>513486565
My mistake, the eastern Ukraine, obviously, the Party of the Regions.

>>513479375
Trust the fucking Slovene of all people to know what's actually happening.

>>513479463
>we need to bring them gay anal sex and women rights
>"based"

>>513485630
>You do this often enough, and the fact that your lies are nonsensical no longer matters. People have been trained to accept and repeat them as fast as they can. Because not doing so has consequences. First they repeat it, and then they accept and normalize it, and maybe they never actually believe it but they know they always have to act like they do and it gets real blurry what people actually believe or not.
Well said. Many such cases.

>>513484074
t. most heretosexual man in the US

>>513478788 (OP)
And it won't be their aim to seize all of Baltics and Poland too when it's their turn lmfao

>>513485739
All eastern dictators have family in the west. China included.

>>513479225
Officially, they have responded to Ukrainian aggression against the DPR and LPR. You may say you don't agree but it is not a lie according to how they see things. You know all of this of course, but your butthurt belter nature refuses to allow you to treat Russia like any other nation.

>>513479463
>Our utterly transparent rambling about freedom is so cool XD
Stepping into a conflict to protect your people is a damned sight better than murdering to fuel your arms industry, because israel said so or to promote homosexuality.

>>513480556
>meme flag talking shit
lol

>>513486067
The US didn't "do a coup" in Ukraine. We supported them after they decided to change their government, sure, but we didn't instigate shit.

>>513487040
how graceful of you to apologize to some jew/tranny who wants to see you dead

>>513482397
I remember this. It was really fucking horrible and absolutely
unnecessary

>>513487718
Least delusional globalist

>>513486929
Oy vey, it's another Shoah.

>>513487766
My apologies were made because after rewriting half a sentence i mixed up the people who got shelled with people who were shelling them. It was out of respect to people who got the shells.

>>513487718
>The US didn't "do a coup" in Ukraine.
Please be a little bit more subtle next time.

>>513488133
checked

>>513479783
It's a classic russian glownigger disinformation strategy. The essence of it is that the russian state puts out a constant stream of disinformation, it doesn't really matter how obviously wrong each individual claim is the point is that there's a lot of them and the international media still has to address each individual lie. Unfortunately it takes a lot more effort to disprove lies than it takes to come up with them. The end goal is to create dishonest discourse around claims with little to no truth value.

>>513488951
All you had to do is mutually beneficial economic activity.
Yet here we are, sharing a chihuahua moment.

>>513478788 (OP)
Ziggers are only capable of lying, there are no honest russians.

>>513478788 (OP)
>Biolabs?
That's my understanding of it, yeah. The Russians had what in their opinion was strong evidence to suggest the idea that there were Biolabs which could potentially exist and were involved in the development of weaponizing a biological agent which was believed to target ethnic Russians on a genetic level, or something to that effect. I mean, if he didn't go full cowboy with the NotPetya shenanigans he probably could have got the intel he needed in other ways, or maybe he already had it. In any case,

Putin saw a small flock of birds out his window then went ahead and started tossing his stones. Eventually, something would hit, and he would have his scarecrow to go parade around and vilify to launch his Special Operation, the whole NATO thing was just the bird that happened to fall first

>>513478788 (OP)
You're misunderstanding what he's saying. A land grab wasn't the point of the SMO, but rather a consequence.

>>513485693
>russia capital
The russia is 30 years old

As far as I'm concerned the so called ukraine is a fake and gay banana republic created on historical Russian soil and living in Russian-built everything so they can take as much of that land as they want.

>>513492515
Well, his logis is RE-> soviets -> russia, with surprising amount of legal stuff going trough those switches for this level of regional instability.
You know, for example WW2 debts and all. I am not entirely sure what happened to international affairs in time between RE and Soviet though.

>>513493393
>I am not entirely sure what happened to international affairs in time between RE and Soviet though.
Lol. Don't worry about it.

>>513484539
I'll be fine, I live in a gated community with 24/7 security.

>>513485882
I'm a Buddhist, how am I supposed to know better?

>>513482655
>Why would Russia want land anyway?
Their complaint was that NATO was too close to their borders, so they are moving their borders closer to NATO so they can complain that NATO has moved closer to them so they can justify invading more places.

>>513479783
It's a demoralization strategy.

>>513478788 (OP)
turmp is not a closer

>>513495682
They shat up all their land. They need new land to shat up.

>>513482996
> which Zelensky rejected under pressure from Boris Johnson

No, that a lie that already been debunked; and fortunately for russia they are only fighting the disgusting turkish scoundrels and the ukro and not the West.

>UN Charter on the self-determination of nations
Nope, it is irrevelant; that the charter for each nation sovereigty that matter.

>>513487700
>You may say you don't agree but it is not a lie according to how they see things.
No, there is no "but"; that a lie that you try, and fail to, legitimize.

>Stepping into a conflict to protect your people
Yeah, but enough about the ukro
>murdering to fuel your arms industry
Yeah, that what russia is doing, dude.
> because israel said
Lol, cool it with your anti-semitics delusion about Israel

>>513479225
Have you guys seen Mars Attacks! It's just like that

>>513478788 (OP)
>I don't understand what the point of the war even was then.
Checked. Stopping NATO partly, partly protecting Russian people who got caught on what ended up being the wrong side of a border which was quite arbitrarily drawn.

What was the original document Putin put out? It had three points, kill the Nazis and root out nu-Nazism as exemplified by Azov. Reduce the Ukrainian military so it won't be a further threat to Russia. And liberate the Russian-speaking provinces, which they clearly need to secure a land bridge to Crimea.

>Biolabs?
Recall they only found those LATER. But when they did they got big mad and China said the Russian story about them had legs.

>I mean Lavrov says it was about protecting ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine
Watch Tucker's interview with Putin, Putin goes into this. Turns out there has been contention in the are between what we could call Germanizers in the West, and Slavs in the East, the Germanic kingdoms sending out colonies going back into the Roman times right up to the 20th century. So from a Russian standpoint there has always been this border land full of people who are part invader, part Slav. Even they themselves are the result of the union of Slavs and Vikings. A Germanic people. So they'd know.

>but they're all dead now and only babushkas are left. And all the ethnic Russian cities there are nothing but rubble.
No no that's not how it works, long before the fighting hits these villages and forts, the people have been evacuated. They don't just huddle in their homes as all the bombs go off. LOL

>>513487718
Nuland's cookies... we instigated shit AND provided the actors. The curious particles and unstable electrons.

>>513479225
maybe it's language barrier, or something more serious like early Alzheimer's