you lost tranny

>>513487909 (OP)
Ukraine started the war by being war mongering obstinate cunts. They refuse to live in peace with Russia. Russia had no choice besides preemptively defending itself from a western backed Ukrainian attack.

>>513487909 (OP)
Why did Russia invade?

>>513487980
This is cope.

>>513488123
When will Ukraine be taking Crimea back?

>>513488119
Because Ukraine was planning a war backed by NATO and the USA.

>>513488175
They won't be taking shit back. All of that part of the world is rightful Russian clay.

>>513487909 (OP)
>implying those kikes weren't bombing Donbas
okay faggot

>>513487909 (OP)
Based

>>513488089
>>513488197
Never seen such an obvious russian bot.
I remember when cuckservatives were like "Noooo Russia will never attack Ukraine".
It's sad how easily infiltrated they are

>>513487909 (OP)
Sweden shouldn't have attacked Russia!

>>513488197
if that were true nato would be invading right now after seeing how weak the rusniggers are.

>>513487909 (OP)
They did when they started shit with the ethnic Russians in the eastern part of Ukraine. Been going on for years OP, stop getting all of your information from MSM you dumb fuck.

>>513488352
Can you spell out the time line for us anon so we can see how Russian troops was the start?

I suspect you will refuse because its quite clear you are the dumbest of fucks with zero historical knowledge of the region

>>513488352
>everyone who disagrees with me is russian!
Or they just use critical thinking skills, don't watch MSM bullshit and aren't a retarded sheep like you.
Remember to stay vaccinated, faggot.

>>513487909 (OP)
Why is it okay for a larger country (Ukraine) to threaten to use military force against a smaller population but it's not okay for Russia to do the same?

Had Ukraine allowed the territories to separate in 1992 all of this would've been avoided.

But essentially forcing the territories to remain wasn't enough. Oh no, they granted them autonomy, which was taken away just a few years later.

Nah, fuck Ukraine. Ukraine started this nonsense.

>>513487909 (OP)

>>513488197
so USA started the war

>>513487909 (OP)
They did
They deposed a democratically elected president and attacked ethnic Russians in the East.
Putin did nothing wrong. It's a police action. It would have been inhumane to do nothing.

>>513487909 (OP)
He’s right

Globalists and weapons manufacturers egged that on by selling Ukraine false hope.

>>513488565

>>513488656
>>513488735
Get to the frontlines, piggy.

>>513487909 (OP)
They did. When the CIA couped Yanukovych several regions remained loyal to the legitimate government and the Kiev Junta started indiscriminately shelling and invading them for 8 years before Russia intervened

>>513488352
Russia gave those assurances before Ukraine started artillery striking residential zones in the Donbas, cutting water to Crimea, massing troops near Luhansk for an ethnic cleansing, collecting Russian RNA in bioweapons labs, restarting the NATO missile crisis, and outlawing Russian language and religion.

Obviously, Russia saying "we don't want war" is not an inviolable blood oath, but a general statement as to their attitude at a given time. Any one of the war crimes Ukraine committed leading into March 2023 was a valid reason for Russia to respond with war.

>>513488197
The greed of the white man knows no bounds...
Why must small nations always provoke superpowers when it comes to Russia, oddly enough mexico, canada and the like don't seem to seriously bother the US, despite their enormous wealth.

>>513488656
Pretty much yeah, the outgoing admin really pushed for this shit. It's why all you glowniggers are screeching about Trump, because he disrupted your gay little plan.

>>513488197
Oh OK, that settles it, Donny was telling the truth, we better enshrine his words into the Smithsonians historical records.

>>513487980
NPC.BotReply("You lost tranny")

>>513487909 (OP)
>seeing this
Kek, Trump tries to pull off a palestine gambit with ukraine.

It's crazy how nafotroons/boomers completely ignore 8 years of Ukranian's doing psycho terrorist shit, and act like Russia just invaded one day for no reason at all.

It's like our country is a woman that keeps hitting a guy over the head with a toaster, and then finally gets punched back, so she pretends she did nothing and calls the police for abuse.

Here is a protip, since I know people in my country are not very smart: if you live in a jew world order that doesn't allow even a hint of nationalism or ethnic unity amoung Europeans, and all of a sudden that same order is funding ethnic nationalist nazi larpers (azov) and framing them as good, they are probably trying to use your nationalism as a tool/trick you into doing something they want. Just a little thought exercise for the stupid /ptg/ and libshit crowds that shit this board up.

>>513488454
>nato would be invading right now
NATO no longer has sufficient equipment because they already committed their resources to the war and lost. Go watch helmetcam footage from the Ukrainian side. For the entire war they've had anglophones with American accents in Humvees with American rifles fighting alongside them.
>seeing how weak the rusniggers are
NATO is begging for a timeout and has been for over a year. Because they're losing and have no path to victory.

>>513488891
As long as Trump doesn't make Europe to settle their little gay affair, why is the EU even in these negotiations? Why is trump allowing it knowing it's all the US's fault? Article 5 has only been provoked once and that was by the US, 2nd time is coming but I have a sneaky feeling it will never end up in the ''credible'' history books taught to the next generation of servile mutts toiling under their masters.

>>513488796
no, there were no weapons or chemical labs or bioresearch in ukraine and even if there was, they would be totally benign facilities dedicated to the betterment of mankind, and it's wrong for russia to attack those places, especially because if russia got a hold of the dangerous weapons and chemicals and bio-whatevers that we have in ukraine, it could be disastrous for humanity, so we have to stop russia

>>513488656
In essence yes. The US and UK started the latest round of fighting when they funded and armed the neo nazi group AZOV to overthrow a democratically elected government and premier. The new puppet government (complete with US citizens in positions of power) then directed AZOV to attack ethnic Russian areas, which they were more than happy to do

>>513488495
Why wouldn't anyone be able to?
You seem to think you know more about this than you do.
Russia started the war in 2014 by annexing Crimea.

>>513488546
Everyone who spouts literal Russian propaganda lies is probably a bot, yes.

>>513488796
You're distorting the timeline.
Russia started the war by annexing Crimea.
Of course they cut off water to Crimea, of course they returned fire.
Why wouldn't they?
I was expecting more from an actual Russian operative, but this was pathetic

>>513488985
(((anons))) have genuinely argued with me that the cuban missile crisis was a simple disagreement among friends and no precedents were set whatsoever.

>>513488791
pic rel retard

>>513489236
Yep >>513488985
Western people are so brainwashed that it hurts. They created rabid ethnic nationalism among Ukranians (knowing that they are in fact just ethnic Russians) in the hopes they could capitalize on that ethnic distinction for cannon fodder. The whole thing was a sick joke. Ironically, the reason that millions of young Ukranian men are dead and Ukraine is barely a country anymore, is because they cheered Ukraine on in their delusions. Their support for Ukranians ultimately lead to their demise. I hope all of Europe is watching so that they don't fall for this bullshit scam.

>>513488891
so trump is trying to shift the blame now
jk we all know he is senile and doesnt know wtf he's saying
>>513489236
azog was created 3 months after janukovich escaped from ukraine

>>513489318
This board is a shell of what it used to be. /ptg/ conservacucks turned it into room temp IQ central.

>>513487909 (OP)
ukraine attacked russia first tho. so they deserve death

>>513489300
You dont even know what happened in Odessa in 2014.

>>513487909 (OP)
LMAO. In a couple of months Krasnov will concede Alaska for a peace deal. Get ready fellow Americans.

>>513489782
The only thing Swedes know is how to sniff their own parts. They are a disgrace to Scandanavia.

>>513489236
>>513489578
also almost 1 month after strelkov captured sloviansk

>>513487909 (OP)

Fuck Zion Don but he's right about this. Ukraine with western intelligence help started this first with the 2014 coup then with 8 years of shelling the Donbas.

>>513489300
>Im going to pretend to myself that US/UK armed and funded AZOV wasnt already attacking Russians in Crimea and several other areas and had been since 2012. Then overthrew a democratically elected government between Dec 2011 and Feb 2012 with intent to install a US controlled puppet government

You delusional fucking clown. Its always you downs syndrome kids with the lowest level of knowledge that have the highest confidence in their brain damaged opinion

>>513488454
you fell for the westoid propaganda newfag
hohols were bombing donbass for years before russia finally said enough

>>513488089
Wrong. Russia broke the 1991 border order in February 2014. That's a fact. Ukraine DIDN'T. Then, Russian FSB glowie "separatist" terrorists started calling parts of Ukraine, Russia. Another undeniable fact. Girkin has been imprisoned by Russia, by the way, for RIGHTLY claiming Putin is getting Russians killed on purpose. The Russian people largely don't even like Putun. You remotely PSYOPed retards are the biggest useful idiots ever.

>>513487909 (OP)
Perhaps Zion Don would have suggested Hoholia just bend over and take it in the ass from Ice China like Don took jew dick up his ass on Epstein Island

>>513487909 (OP)
It's more complex than that, but in the main Trump is correct. Ukraine were more than receptive to the corrupting influences of the West, particularly Joe Biden and his pay for play criminal enterprise. Best thing that you can say about Ukraine in this is that they aren't the first country to get sandbagged by the West in this manner, and they should have known better.

>>513489854
>alaska
Oh fuck off, Bering strait is the prime place to defend, we're not dropping that for any fucking gold.

>>513488985
See here
>>513490129
Russia started claiming parts of Ukraine as theirs, retard. What is Ukraine supposed to do? And there were a few scores of Russians that died over several years, before the 3 day SMO. Now, Russia has irreparably destroyed their demographics, all while Putin is flooding Moscow with muslims.

>>513489578
Nonsense, AZOV is a sub group of Right Sector. It didnt get its official name AZOV till 2014 but was in operation since 2010 under the name Кepчeнcькa пpoтoкa (Kerch Strait) and under the control of neo nazi group Right Sector since 2013

Coincidentally AZOV means Kerch Strait

>>513490134
>Hoholia just bend over and take it in the ass from Ice China
I mean, that's what happened anyway. Better to have just given up the ground without millions of dead ukie men. Instead you give up the ground + the dead. The west and Zelensky all knew there was no chance of winning. At least you get to marvelslop post online about how Ukraine is Harry putter and Russia is Voldemort though. At least you got to feel badass making gay marvel quips like you just did.
>muh ice china
Nafotroons are literally handicapped people.

>>513489882
See
>>513490453

>>513489300
Kys tranny, go back to your nafo discord to groom another child

>>513487909 (OP)
ukraine provoked them with belief nato would aid them and fucked around and found out. blocking water to crimea and refusing to negotiate (dam was destroyed in first week of war, freeing water to crimea) for one. refusing to acknowledge ethnic russian votes to secede and actively attacking them with their retard battalion azov throughout dumbass region. lots of shit like that.

>>513490339
>memeflag
>is retarded

>>513490453
>but was in operation since 2010 under the name Кepчeнcькa пpoтoкa (Kerch Strait)
source?

>>513487909 (OP)
He's right though. Ukraine will end up giving up the Donbas and other regions. But now it will have to give up even more than that. The west won't save Ukraine when it comes down to it

>Not a single post mentioning Euro Maidan

ukrainewarts is right next door, faggot
how about you go help them out instead of shitting up the board?

>>513487909 (OP)
The war started in 2024 when the Ukrainians invaded Donbass.

>>513490129
>memeflaggot spouting lies
>C-CHECKEMATE
wrong

>>513490662
Cool story, drone bait. Into the trenches with you.

>>513488089
>my heckin' nointeen nointy one borderinerinos!
>you can't do this to us, our made up country is valid and brave!

>>513491037
Where's the lie, lardy pants? When did Ukraine invade Russia? Not counting after Russia started the 3 day SMO? Russia invaded Ukraine. Continually, going back to feb 2014.

>>513487909 (OP)
It's funny that any piece of information that requires just a tiniest bit of research instantly becomes a scene from Idiocracy
>But it's got electrolytes!

>>513487909 (OP)
But but we're the good guys. People changed their profile pics over this. It's a big deal.

>>513490460
Some people would rather die than pussy out of a fight with someone taking their shit. Should Pigraine have thought they would win with zog sugardaddy money, no probably not, but they will at least be remembered as men. Men manipulated by their pride to die for nothing in a proxy war for the profit of jews, but still men. We can't all be Belgium and hope everything will work out in the end by doing nothing.
Oh and take a break from the internet my nigga

>>513490002
Exactly it's always some dunning/kruger effect nigger thinking he knows anything.
>AZOV wasnt already attacking Russians in Crimea and several other areas and had been since 2012
The Azov Battalion didn’t even exist until May 2014.
It was formed after Russia seized Crimea.
You're been guzzling Russian propaganda my friend.
Maybe try independent sources instead of just believing what bots tell you

>>513487909 (OP)
fpbp
trying to get ahead of the "zelensky is a biden puppet" crowd. trannys gonna trann

>>513491614
Yeah it's not a big deal that Trump has dementia and takes his talking points directly from Putin.
I think Trump's economy is a much bigger issue honestly

>>513488796
Literally did not happen. Your "argument" relies on going dah joooos and crying about people on twitter.
>>513489782
>moutbreathing pro-russians locked themselves in a building, set it on fire and burned themselves to death
>may
When was crimea?
All russian orcs only posess one thought,
>WE WILL RAPE YEZZZ WE WILL KILL... EVERYBODY)))
of course when these orcs try to pass as conscious creatures and make arguments, it's immediately seen through by anyone who is not a screaming BRICSnigger or illiterate magatard.

Bibi invaded his prolapsed glory hole

>>513489236
>fighting le nazis
Imagine being this cringe

>>513490129
You worship obama you fucking goofball nazi heeb.

>>513487909 (OP)
Euro trannys lost.
Burgers lost and trying to pretend it was the plan, and they had nothing to do with this war.
Euro cucks are being slow and retarded as usual, they'll get in line soon tho.

>>513488922
The left can't meme.