meanwhile 4chan and reddit think AI is a scam.
who's right?

https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/04/john-carmack-defends-ai-amid-backlash-over-microsofts-generative-quake-ii-demo/

Doesn't matter, whatever I choose will fail and I'll forever be broke.

Because they are the only ones who stand to gain from it while everyone else loses

>>513506172 (OP)
>using an rng to generate a level
jeetsoft missed that boat by about two decades but now want to sell this to you for 1000x the price because they added some conditionals to make it coherent. ai could've been so much but all that's happened is corpos turned it into an excuse to charge more for something they were already shipping

>>513506172 (OP)
Muh inverse square route

>On November 13, 2019, Carmack stepped down from the Oculus CTO role to become a "Consulting CTO" in order to allocate more time to his work on artificial general intelligence (AGI). On August 19, 2022, Carmack announced that he has raised $20M for Keen Technologies, his new AGI company.
So he's from Sam Altman-Fried except that he used to do useful and interesting things.

>>513507838
carmack is smart enough to make agi work

>>513506172 (OP)
I'm a DBA. The company I work for is trying to implement AI to write front end asp/vb/etc... and back end sql. Everything it comes up with is crap. The lead programmer has a 20 page document he feeds it just to try to get it to generate something useful for an interface. So he literally could have just written the front end.

>>513506172 (OP)
>meanwhile 4chan and reddit think AI is a scam
I don’t give a rat’s ass what anyone on 4chan or reddit think. Basedmen and kike shills the all of them

>>513506172 (OP)
>technology dude defends technology

no way

>>513509291
LLMs are for duping corpofags in their emails that they boiled their brain into a golem robot that only talks about newspeak and politely begging for money
Any programming god who embraces AI is just proving how little work they really do because they don't call it out for what it is, a lobotomized jewish ministry of truth autocomplete

>>513506172 (OP)
Carmack is a literal robot with no feelings.
He killed a cat like it was nothing.

Of course he is going to be pro AI and technology.

>>513511993
Got that meta dolphin llama on a zip drive bro.
Its mostly uncensored. Cool to have a backup laptop and a zip drive ina faraday box for the apocolypse.
Idk how to code and now i can write code with it. Pretty dope

>>513506172 (OP)
>Proven tech geniuses embrace AI
such as who?

>>513512756
>Idk how to code and now i can write code with it
you can't write code
you are essentially asking a jeet to write code for you
if you have a retarded simple idea that's already been done 100 times, a jeet / "AI" can code it for you if you ask it to do so
if you have an idea that's not trivial or has anything new about it, you're shit out of luck with jeets and with AI
i write actual code. LLMs are best as a search engine and my prompts explicitly ask it to not write any code that is longer than a 10 line snippet (because it's just going to vomit garbage otherwise)

>>513506172 (OP)
>Took $ to shill AI

>>513506172 (OP)
Its carmack op
he can do whatever the fuck he wants and will still get support from thousands of autistic people (such as myself)

>>513506172 (OP)
>train a model from videos of people playing quake
>why doesn't the game play like quake?
Retards. The model created a video of possible outcomes. There's no game logic in it.

Must be MS jeets building this idiocy.

>>513506172 (OP)
AI code should filter people who can't understand basic coding.

>>513507940

It will never work unless they find a way to upload literal human memorys into some ai lbrary. Mark my words

>>513516012
This. It is alright for generated tedious boilerplate, even simple unit tests for trivial functions, but is dog-shit tier for anything that is remotely significant. It might be better for high-level languages like JS/TS that it gets its most training on, but for every language I have experimented around with, it requires me more time to check, correct, and redo its work than it would have been to just write it myself to begin with. Even if the code is technically "correct", it has no concern whatsoever for creating optimal code that limits allocations, cache misses, etc, let alone concern itself with writing code in a way that allows the compiler the best chance to to make the most optimizations it can.

>>513506172 (OP)
tech fags get free money from scamming retards looking for a miracle. this isnt hard to figure out, you are just an idiot.

>>513506345
God if that ain't the truth. Maybe antifa was right, maybe fire really is the answer

>>513506172 (OP)
ars technica is a pro vax libtard site like thr atlantic, and employed pdfs like peter bright

carmack has also turned into a massive faggot who worked on metaverse VR (LOL) and is best buddies with zuck

>>513506172 (OP)
Carmack has not been relevant or even aiding the progress of vidya since Rage 1 he's actually been antagonistic to meaningful improvements to the average consumer by helping to sabotage augmented reality which is a tool that almost anybody and anything can find use for if only to preserve screenspace for vidya.

>>513518255
this. there was some helpful and cool AR glasses company 10-15 years ago called castAR that had prototypes for tabletop gaming and for manufacturing workers and ppl walking down a street. no funding from carmack though. instead he did oculus and meta like the faggot he is.

also he got divorced by his gook wife. kek.

>>513506172 (OP)
The "AI" bubble is an excuse to reset the markets.
The overall ponzi scheme if you will.
LLMs are not AGI.
You have been lied to by the techfags.
They are laughing all the way to the bank btw.

>>513518439
meanwhile bethseda destroyed quake champions by outsourcing it to india

Carmack has always been on the cutting edge of tech. I bet he doesnt see ai as some be all end all but just another powerful tool to be used and not ignored.

>>513519072
He thinks agi will be the game changer.

>>513506345
Fuckin /thread, man

the mind will become weak

>>513519072
He is just economically involved, that's why he has shit takes about it

>>513506172 (OP)
New Quake when? It's better than Doom

>>513506172 (OP)
Laughable take coming from a guy who dropped everything to get in on the ground floor of VR hype 10 years ago.

The ruling class is excited by the promise of mass manipulation by technological means, but this will be unstable and disastrous for all involved

>>513506172 (OP)
He's right. Video games have become developed enough that AI can simulate whatever you want soon. There are hundreds of FPS games with basically the same mechanics.
>>513506460
Long term game studios fail and the money goes to AI hallucination video game devs and big tech.

>>513506172 (OP)
>Scamers defend their scam
Like pottery

markets will be destroyed and profits will fall; then, crisis

China will win without firing a shot

>>513519492
yes. giant jewish ponzi scheme
>>513519555
checked and yes. They already manufacture hardware using old NVIDIA GPUs that NVIDIA won't. China will bankrupt US microchip market long term.

>>513519792
They will blame the chips when is a display color that can be used anywhere

>>513519435
The public sentiment has already shifted. The mainstream is now skeptical of """AI""". Give it a couple more years and it will be a laughing stock. These are just late, desperate attempts from shills with a vested interest (Carmacknigger owns an AI company)

>>513507940
Carmack is a great programmer but he's not an AI scientist. There's a difference and only people smart enough to know the difference will understand this.

>>513516864
modern AI (LLM transformer based tech) is a crude pattern recognition NN-based stochastic predictor that's using NLP using token transformation. It does not learn or understand, people are just helpless dumb monkeys that are so easy to mentally trick because we are at our core not evolved from our primate-based limbic system. We are as easy to trick and manipulate emotionally as a chimpanzee given the right setup.

But it IS good enough to cause massive damage economically because most people really don't really know what they are doing at their job either. Most code is a repetition of something else and before people used Cursor they used Stack Overflow. Nothing really changed except that it got integrated well into the dev process and can help us skip memorizing syntax. It's still not capable of thought, it's an elaborate search engine.

Image gen and Vid gen are far more impressive implementations but they have the same base issues because the underlying architecture is fundamentally not real sentience. It's still incredible tech, but its a stochastic approximator.

>>513506172 (OP)
>4chan and red*it think AI is a scam.
go back to red*it, red*it, oh and 1PBTID and shit
>>513519421
>Video games have become developed enough that AI can simulate whatever you want soon.
You...have no idea what you are talking about, huh?
>simulate whatever you want soon
>soon
You won't be able to afford the computer required for that any time soon.

>>513519408
>>513519435
>>513520120
Commercial LLMs have two purposes, to enslave and track you in real time 24/7, and to colonize new generations from the inside creating emotional dependence to a thing that tells them what to think and believe.
Just like the elite's don't let their offspring near smartphones that much, same will apply with this shit.

>>513507838
shut your whore mouth when talking about Carmack, broccoli haired mutt

>>513506172 (OP)
>>513507838
>>513507940
>>513512137
>>513515240
>>513517751
>>513518255
Carmack said that Ilya Slutskeever gave him 30 white papers that summarize ALL relevant advances in AI.

He said that LLMs and their ilk are not true AI and just reflect the [jewish] sophistry of their creators.

He said that Keen will use a totally different approach not seen in any current tech. I think he is waiting for the crash to clear the board and remove competition.

>>513506172 (OP)
I respect Carmack but he has no respect for the artistic side of video games and he's a sociopath that killed his cat because it pissed on the carpet.

>>513506172 (OP)
Lol typical black and white psyop bullshit

No, good majority of people think that it's overhyped not that it isn't useful.

Gpt5 is barely an improvement in gpt4

>>513506172 (OP)
>4chan thinks its a scam
oh you naieve sweet summer child.
there's tons of threads on various corners of this site about how to use Ai for yourself, locally, you have zero clue about how diverse this site really is. /pol/ has never been all of 4chan.
you probably don't even know about the hidden boards, what a child, lmao.

>>513522142
/f/...

>>513507940
He's going to make AI his bitch

>>513517333
the jew does everything in his power to convince you not to kill him while he's got his hands in your pockets

>>513506172 (OP)
>the virgin plebbit anti-ai troon vs the chad doom creator carmack
i think carmack takes this one by a mile, and changes the world again

>>513506172 (OP)
AI will only ever be useful so long as it remains a tool. it it were to become more than that it would be disastrous beyond comprehension for humanity

>>513506172 (OP)
>Proven tech geniuses embrace VR
>Proven tech geniuses embrace Metaverse
>Proven tech geniuses embrace Blockchain
>Proven tech geniuses embrace NFT
>Proven tech geniuses embrace AI
>Proven tech geniuses embrace Next Jewish money grab
(((tech geniuses))) are always wron

>>513506172 (OP)
There is trillions being dumped into AI and the Chinese counter with a small budget of a few million to produce something similar. Do you think maybe AI is just another U.S. scam on the taxpayers?

>>513506172 (OP)
Microsoft is a scam, they just rely on opensource developers for everything. Some special interests are now assasinating open source developers.

>>513523001
AI has been used in tech for decades, it was just called Machine Learning. No one cared until the recent LLM hype.

>>513523510
That's why I said "aI" and not say anything about Machine Learning.

>>513521570
Thanks, another entire thread of retards misunderstanding the whole point and only you understand the real situation

CARMACK WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT LLM HERE
For retarded fucking normies the only thing AI means today is LLM

>>513521570
>He said that LLMs and their ilk are not true AI
I wish more people understood this.

>>513523510
No one cared until it got 100x more effective than previous machine learning methods

basically it was a quantum leap in capability suddenly, and a lot of people decided instead of learning or embracing the advancement, that they were going to try and undercut it and pretend it's nothing and doesn't matter.

I don't know why so many men default to that kind of idiocy, but it happens constantly. New thing -> idiot retards cry about new thing -> decades later everyone is using new thing including the retards

happened with radio, television, internet, computers, microwaves, dishwashers, etc. etc.
every single fucking advancement gets relentlessly attacked by luddite retards and then ten years later they're acting like they weren't pissing and shitting themselves over it

I have NEVER seen one of these idiots stay true to their convictions.

>>513506172 (OP)
You want to bet this fag is selling AI slop tools?
The only people that defend this trash are hopeless jeets and salesmen.

>>513512756
You're better off scraping stack exchange and saving that, retard.

>>513526025
there was no 'quantum leap' its just computers and especially parallel computers like GPUs just finally got powerful enough to make this all feasible, plus the insane amount of investment done to pay for the clusters of GPUs to do the training
the methods are not new they just werent feasible before (inb4 there are some new things, yes obviously there are, but mainly its because of finally having the brute force to do this)

you're trying to present yourself as an expert while being the retard yourself here
i'm pretty confident that you're a pajeet because jeets/jews/arabs genetic line is always overconfident but retarded, just like you

So go back to india and get the fuck out of a White country, you filthy pajeet