What's the truth about 'the trades'? Can you start working blue-collar jobs in the US and work your way up to 'crew manager' and then start your own contracting firm and rake in millions of dollars per year? Does that path still work, or have Boomers somehow ruined it?

>>513508975 (OP)
leave blue-collar jobs to jeets. They like getting 'down-n-dirty' anyways

>>513508975 (OP)
Boomers didn’t ruin it, their children, the Gen X slackers, did. I got
my plumbing ticket and it was the worst thing i’ve ever done up to this point. Much happier running my own IT business. Don’t fucken do it, cunt,

Lol you are making it a little more complicated than it has to be. It really depends on which trade too. Not every trade has crews like that. In some trades it as simple as learn your trade and get good at it, then if you can afford it start your own business, and maybe if things work out you will be very successful.

Im an overnight security guard at a giant tech company and I get paid $31 an hr to be on 4chan all day in a cushy office building.

Basically anything can be lucrative if you go at it the right way. Some trades make good money (unionized, high pay area, right field) and some make dogshit. Generally speaking though if you have the mind for it a university education done the right way will be an easier path to making good money

>>513509370
hell yeah

>>513508975 (OP)
I did it, but it's not the same anymore. I'm a millennial I graduated high-school in 99. I started working for a framing crew that summer. I did it for a while, then an opportunity opened up to build fences around the new construction homes we were building. My boss helped me get a license in 2000. Back then I paid $450 dollars showed some proof of insurance and they gave me a general contractors license. I spent the next year building fences, which fucking sucks. I did decks and remodeling after that for another two years. After that I started getting new construction builds. Money actually started to pour in at that point. Then 08 hit. Construction stopped, luckily I had another year and a half of new construction that was still going through. By 2010 it had slowed almost to nothing. But, land was cheap and I had money. I bought all the waterfront property I could. I built myself a beach home. The minute I got the CO on the house, I got the appraisal done, saw what it was worth, and immediately put it up for sale. After that I started building all the beach houses I could. After three years of that I had more money than I would ever really need.

I quit building for a year or so because of personal reasons. I tried to go back to building again but the county rezoned my remaining property to commercial only. I built a restaurant/bar on it and have been doing that the last ten years.

I don't think it can be done that way today. For one you can't just walk into the courthouse at 19, give them $450 dollars and walk out with a general contractors license. But, if you are motivated and not dumb you can still make a good living at construction. It's an unbelievable amount of work though. If you can stomach a decade of killing yourself with manual labor 12-15 hours a day and you aren't retarded, you can escape hell world.

>>513509398
I tried the education thing. The only reason I ever started construction was to get money for school. I got my bachelor's in business and marketing. But, I had been doing my own construction business for a few years when I graduated. I couldn't find a job that paid as much as my construction did. I went back and got my MBA, but again there were no jobs that paid like construction did. So, I stuck to construction. I feel like the money I spent on my education was sort of wasted on me personally. I don't regret the time learning though.

>>513508975 (OP)
Colton Ford was so fine

>>513508975 (OP)
That is so fucking gay tf

>>513508975 (OP)
I looked at the wages for shit like plumbing, welding, etc and for a supposed "major" shortage they pay ass I make more as a bartender in a dead small town.

>>513509370
>security guard
Isn't your job at risk of being taken over by AI? Most security work is just monitoring cams and sometimes doing patrols most security gigs don't even allow you to carry a gun let alone do anything security guars are usually just a living "dial 9/11" button.

>>513509109
Jeets avoid blue collar work like the plague, what are you talking about retard

>>513508975 (OP)
Lol, average blue collar is a 170lbs skinny toothles tweaker that lives off gas station sandwiches, meth and cheap beer.

If you do manual labour you simply can't do any proper weightlifting, you are that fucked up.

>>513511790
You're a fucking homosexual government wagie who gets bossed around by females all day and post owning a commie block box as a ridiculous brag/cope constantly, you very dumb namefag nigger.

>>513508975 (OP)
Here's how the trades are going in my neck of the woods. Every job site is flooded with mexicans. If you're competent at your job you get bitch duty of fixing the spics mistakes.

Your job is no longer your trade, you will now be a babysitter for wet back dipshits with tijuana trade school certs which for some reason our government recognizes those tortillas as legitimate as our certs.

>>513508975 (OP)
Good money in your 20s. Save it all and quit in your thirties to do something else easy with a cheap paid off house. Coast till retirement

>>513508975 (OP)
tradesmeme is a psyop to get white men out of important roles in society
get a degree

>>513508975 (OP)
If you're not a retard maybe. But construction is generally hard work. Running a business is even harder. That's why most people don't. Not they can't, it's just all hard and all work and they say fuck it, I'll work 60 hour weeks for mr scheklestein and not worry about making my own business. I work like 80 hours a week in some capacity. But I can also make several thousand a week or make a few hundred on a phone call marking up supplies from my business accounts.

>>513509145
If Gen X are slackers, there's less competition for you in plumbing. How could this be anything but good, or do you mean you want to run a crew?

>>513508975 (OP)
You can make a lot of money in trades if you have an own company but you won't have much time to spend it and you will also need to find a wife abroad because locally most quality women won't date you since they all have degrees now which makes them think they are much better than you now.

t. blue collar company owner

>>513515822
That and they get mad that you work all the time. I cant tell you how many retarded women wanted to date me and then complain im always working or when im not im on my phone working (doing estimates, tracking orders, bidding jobs,tracking supplies and parts and talking to dumb fuck customers).

>>513508975 (OP)
its no different from other businesses most fail.

>>513516116
I make over 100k which in Europe is considered a lot but women still don't respect me simply for not having an academic degree. Most academic jobs are poorly paid, I make more than their professors and they still value the judgement of these pencilpushers more. Even if they are just leftist idiots who suck at every mans job ever created and earn considerably less. The only women who are interested in me are Slavs and Turks.

>>513516287
Id pick up a slav
Eastern European women are hot. And they will be good wives, the ones that aren't already druggie whores looking to divorce rape someone for a passport. Not sure about Turkish women... never been with one. Been with Italians, Russians, brittish and mixed Americans but never a Turkish woman.

my trade kind of sucks. there's no mexicans but you get fucked by the government and insurance and the money is shit unless you're in the top % which takes years of experience and knowledge that the boomers refuse to pass on

>>513516582
German women are whores for status and are poor judges of actual work or value men provide. Nothing against either type of woman, I just imagined my life to work out differently
> Slavs
Not particularly enthusiastic about them, can't tell you why specifically, spark doesnt catch on for me
> Turks
They are basically like South Italians just with Islam instead of Catholicism

>>513509221
Plumbing, carpentry and metallurgy

>>513508975 (OP)
obviously most can't do that, leaders are always outnumbered by followers

>>513516947
I look at the new job searches for local government employees frequently since the same platform hosts the offers for bids of contract work and the amount of jobs for men with liberal arts degrees is nearly absent. The only recurring jobs I saw were translators for the police for Arabic, Albanian, Russian and Ukrainian
> the absolute state

>>513508975 (OP)
>Contracting firm
You talk like a faggot

I plan to get a small city utility job and climb the ranks to being a corrupt bureaucrat. If this country is going 3rd world (it is) that's the play see: latin america, post-soviet europe

>>513508975 (OP)
You need a way into the union, and must be young when you start. It takes years to go from apprentice to journeyman to master. I know a guy who's a millionaire from being a steamfitter in NYC, he just turned 40 and retired. Because of the union. Same thing with garbage truck drivers, unless you have family in the union already you ain't getting the job. My best friend had to delay moving into the home he paid millions to build, because the fire sprinkler guy said "the union is on strike and in California all new homes need sprinklers for fire suppression". The only viable route I'd see is getting a basic job, learning all you need to, then start you own business with your savings. Landscaping, roofing, solar installs, etc. Masonry and woodwork is too low paid, don't bother.

>>513508975 (OP)
the home improvement contractor is the best option all things considered.
My property owner has a 30 foot round out of the ground pool. His wife and mom want him to get a deck. The pool is awesome but the ladder is shady. So got a guy in to bid. MInd you we're not talking about some huge house deck. We're talking very reasonable size. First quote: 6,000 plus materials. guy thought he was going to get 4,000 for a weekend work. We got the bid down to 4,000 plus actual materials cost with next guy. If you have the gumption to put the cement footers in build the deck properly? You can get thousands for one weekend. Building decks is but one example.

>>513517091
>for local government employees
Best kind of jobs. If you manage to get a desk job in your local municipality you are set for life. They are always payed above average.

>>513517829
>If you manage to get a desk job in your local municipality you are set for life.
You're such a fucking nigger.