Giving control of your currency to people who hate you is fucking stupid. Jews were even more blatant about how much they hated Europeans than they are today, so what gives? There isn't a single valid excuse for it.

Racially pure Jews are superior

>>513512760 (OP)
Jewish people had money

They didnt "give control", jews subverted them and got punished for it, which happened over and over, until ultimately zionism rose up during the 19th and 20th centuries which created the global order we live in today.

>>513513097
>They didnt "give control"
Please explain why Christians would allow Jews to become money lenders in their societies repeatedly if they are enemies.

>>513513172
Lurk another two weeks and someone will get around to it. I don't remember exactly, but I read the answer here.

>>513513097
>jews subverted them
How is that any different than what I said, you fucking idiot? Jews didn't just automatically, magically gain control of financial systems simply by existing within a country's territory.

The Bible (and the Quran) are anti-usury, but the Jewish religion encourages it.

>>513513403
So?

>>513513172
Because its risky and a failed investment could be blamed on the jews, as well as usury being banned for Christians so jews would offer attractive loans that were profitable for the jews in the long run. Thats why jews coom over (((compound interest))). Jews were banned from any form of artisinal guild work so they pretty much had no other option.

>>513513364
Europeans didnt willingly or intentionally give control to the jews is the distinction. They weaseled their way into it through subversion.

>>513512760 (OP)

>>513512760 (OP)
Christians had the dopey idea that loaning money and charging interest was a sin so they gave the monopoly for money lending to Jews. Fast forward a few hundred years and the Jews control the world and Europeans are being genetically destroyed by all manners of Jewish schemes.

>>513513482
>>513513622
Why were Jews allowed in Christian societies at all when the New Testament/Jesus calls them the scourge of mankind? This isn't adding up.

>>513513521
>They weaseled their way into it through subversion.
You're using "subversion" as a thought-terminating cliche while refusing acknowledge the actual processes of how subversion happens. Even here >>513513482 you admit that Europeans WILLINGLY dealt with Jews.

>>513512760 (OP)
Same as now. The elite use jews as functionaries to do their dirty work. Jews are amoral and see gentiles as subhuman, so you can always get them to do shitty things to the general population.
When the people finally get too sick of it, Jews also make convenient scapegoats.
Jews were classified as "wards of the crown", not citizens, they were there at the invitation of the kings, under the protection of kings, to serve the kings.

>>513512760 (OP)
because the vatican and the jews are the same people (esoteric italian and french elites). its one big gay mafia.

>>513513680
Nigga their god is Jewish so they felt an affinity towards the jews

>>513513730
Love how you imply that Jews are really innocent widdle angels who were just doing their jobs.

>>513513622
Pagan Romans made Judea a province.

>>513513770
That's not what the New Testament says. Jn 5:18 for example says the Jews were trying to kill Jesus. I'm trying to understand why/when Christians started siding with Jews if they're supposed enemies. Why allow them to live amongst you and become money lenders if they're the bad guys according to your lore?

>>513513172
Jews made Christians, tardbro. Christianity was invented to subvert the goyim, and was inflicted on white people when jews took over Rome with their jewgolds. So it makes complete sense that after Christians had fought hundreds of wars against other white people for almost a millennium, the second the Christening was done they turned everything over to jews.

The whole fucking bible is just endless pages going on and on and on about how great and special jews are, what do you think happens in the brain of someone who believes that shit?

>>513514010
Because the bible never directly says "All jews everywhere are bad and you should kill all of them immediately". The wording is vague enough that one can say it was only a specific group of jews who should be treated as enemies.

>>513514019
no christianity was a distillation of earlier european wisdom, which pissed off rome alot and so they killed christians for 300 years before declaring themselves christian and turning the whole thing to shit

>>513514144
Nope. Sure, Christians copy pasted all the trappings of the earlier European religion. Every single Christian holy day is just a pagan holy day rebranded and "jews are great" tacked onto it.

But there is nothing wise or spiritual in Christianity. It's a grotesque materialist ideology, a death cult that purely revolves around jew supremacy.

>>513512760 (OP)
royalty and upper classes worked in tandem with them to get power over lower classes
if you check history it was always royalty. high status nobles and officials(including church one) that protected (((merchants))) to gain power and wealth at cost of their subjects

>>513512760 (OP)
It was a warrior culture, nobody thought that money was what really mattered in a time when money was easy to steal.

>>513514277
I find this hard to believe. If you understand what money is on a conceptual level, then you should also be able to understand that whomever has control over it can easily fuck people over. Even people like the Mongols understood how money worked.

>>513514242
The Crusades were to stop Whites from killing Jews.

The largest of these crusades, and the most involved in attacking Jews, was that led by Count Emicho. Setting off in the early summer of 1096, an army of around 10,000 men, women and children proceeded through the Rhine valley, towards the Main River and then to the Danube. Emicho was joined by William the Carpenter and Drogo of Nesle, among others from the Rhineland, eastern France, Lorraine, Flanders and even England.

Holy Roman Emperor Henry IV, absent in southern Italy, ordered the Jews to be protected when he learned of Emicho's intent.

The massacre of the Rhineland Jews by the People's Crusade and other associated persecutions were condemned by the leaders and officials of the Catholic Church.

The Catholic Church drafted and shipped Europeans to the Middle East to distract them from the Jews.


Think about it further. During the Judeo-Islamic invasion of Spain and the subsequent Reconquista, what was the Christian establishment doing while the Africans and Asiatics sought to take over Europe? Why were they slow and reluctant to act against non-Europeans and yet determined to convert or kill Europeans? How come the clergy and devout Christian adherents were against the limpieza de sangre while Spaniards demanded that it be enforced?

>>513514120
Rev 3:9 isn't vague. It implies anyone calling themself a "Jew" but who isn't, is an enemy. Most Jewish people, whether religious or not, call themselves Jews as an ethnicity. That's mostly all 'Jews' ever.

So, again, you have these people calling themselves Jews in your country, and they are known for lying and corruption, why befriend and do business with them? If they were converts to Christianity as a lot of them were, I doubt they'd call themselves Jews, right? Wouldn't they want to get as far as possible from them since they killed Jesus according to the lore?

>>513512760 (OP)
Whites are evolved to build civilization but they suck at preserving it. Hence they end up letting jews weasel into power and calling people "crazy" for saying that it's a bad thing.

>>513514523
>anyone calling themself a "Jew" but who isn't, is an enemy
Dipshit. That is not remotely the same as:
>All jews everywhere are bad and you should kill all of them immediately.
In fact, that's almost the exact opposite of what I said.

>>513514517
>what was the Christian establishment doing while the Africans and Asiatics sought to take over Europe?
They were busy importing jews and putting them into positions of power.

>>513514242
>a death cult that purely revolves around jew supremacy.
which is romes method for turning something good into shit, as previously explained

>>513514523
Jesus was a jewish rabbi. Jews are both the good guys and the bad guys in the bible. Only jews are special, they are the only people that matter. Jesus himself said the goyim is like dogs compared to jews.

>>513513172
>christians kek
what a dummy

>>513514606
I didn't argue with whether the New Testament says to kill Jews or not, but that it explicitly says people who call themselves one are bad.

>>513514730
>but that it explicitly says people who call themselves one are bad.
And what the fuck does that have to do with what I said?

>>513513172

Because christianity was a jewish psyops from the beginning. Jews used it as a leverage over kings, and kings used it as a justification for war against other european kings. Thus the whole europe was christianized. And thus it took hold of entire population and not just kings. its still being used by jews to justify dumb shit, and their rule.

Christisnity had two main porpouse in its start. 1) to convert the romans to be kosher, and 2) to be revision of judaism and trying to change the savage nature of judaism, because you coulndt convert anyone into judaism as it was. It needed to be more friendly towards outsiders and promise hapiness and love, and thus giving something to the downtrodden gentiles. The Jewish Pharasees didnt like christianity because jews used to it to rebel. It bited its master, and they understood its existential problem, and thus talmud teaches extreme antichristianity. They want it to spread into gentiles, but not onto them.

>>513514773
I never once said Christians should kill all Jews or that the New Testament says so either, nor was I arguing that, can you read? I merely pointed out it says people who call themselves "Jews" but are not, presumably as in ethnically, aren't to be trusted. That's nearly the entirety of Jews ever. So, why do business with "Jews"?

>>513513680
Because you reap what you sow and one of the core pillars of Christianity is forgiveness. Back in those days the jews were given a chance to fall in line. They held up appearances while doing things in the dark like blood libel which cause them to get expelled over and over. Plus, using their pilpul they would worm their way out of things by pulling on the empathy strings of white people.
>>513513699
>thought-terminating cliche while refusing acknowledge the actual processes of how subversion happens
Its pretty obvious to anyone with two brain cells to rub together. Christian is desperate for money, for whatever reason, and goes to the jew for a quick payday loan. If they pay back the jew, the jew makes profit. If they dont, the jew benefits. Over time the wealth and influence of jews grow as well as their hubris which leads into my response to the other anon about hubris and expulsion.

>>513514678
>>513514896
Believe it or not, but there is not a single verse in the entire Bible that specifically calls the Jews or the tribe of Judah God’s chosen people. This misconception comes from the fact that the Jews of today have declared themselves to be Israel and not the house of Judah, as the Scriptures rightfully call them.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220526080336/https://gottmituns.com/what-is-a-jew/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT_RUdBTlp4

>>513514906
You are so fucking stupid. Please read your own posts before you post them.
>>513514523
>anyone calling themself a "Jew" but who isn't, is an enemy
>BUT WHO ISN'T

>>513514961
>Christian is desperate for money, for whatever reason, and goes to the jew for a quick payday loan
Why is the jew allowed in the country, and why is he allowed to issue such loans?

>>513513172
Some king or duke needed a loan so he called on Moshi who had contacts with his cousin Cohen in the Holy Roman Empire who drafted a bill of credit. When he couldn’t pay it back directly Moshi was willing to accept privileges for his Nephews instead.

>>513514896
Correct. It's proto-marxism, globohomo version one. What many people don't realize is that in the period after jews took over Rome and started pushing Christianity, and throughout the middle ages and onwards, jews were busy buying their way into the European aristocracies with their jewgolds. If you look at the lineages of most of the European royalty in the 15th century most of them have merchants out of Vienna in their family lines by then. So people who wonder why these Christian feudal monarchs seemed so friendly to jews, the answer to that is that they WERE jews.

That's why if you look at paintings of rennaissance monarchs in Europe none of them actually look European. Big ugly noses, dysgenic faces, kinky curly dark hair. They were all crypto jew mutts by then.

>>513515060
>jews aren't real jews
Fuck off, I'm not having that retard discussion again. Here's the definition of jew everyone except you british israel faggots use:


Jew
noun
ˈjü
1
: a person belonging to a continuation through descent or conversion of the ancient Jewish people
2
: one whose religion is Judaism
3
a
: a member of the tribe of Judah
b
: israelite
4
: a member of a nation existing in Palestine from the sixth century b.c. to the first century a.d.

>>513515060
OFC you're a Christian Identity tard. I'm not gonna waste one more second on you, and I advise everyone else here to do the same.

>>513515063
>Why is the jew allowed in the country, and why is he allowed to issue such loans?
Because jews already had trading networks throughout regions and their culture values literacy which gave them a competitive advantage in a less literate europe. With the restrictions placed on them by Christians they didnt have many options.

Remember one of the laws is "thou shalt not kill" which is something the jews loopholed around with the talmud. That is why Christians didnt go around slaughtering jews, until they found out they were kidnapping, torturing and bloodletting children.

>>513512760 (OP)
Kiketianity, it’s pretty self evident, once Rome was ZOGged during the 5th century it was over.

>>513512760 (OP)
because whites are very dull minded and scary. Imagine ruling a nation and some group subverts you with no weapons, literally take everything and ultimately genocide you before your eyes

>>513515311
no real written history goes back that far, all of that shit is made up lil rooster

>>513515522
There's STILL not any revolutions or insurrections... countries like the US, UK, Sweden and France is like almost half shitskins now, and STILL no one is doing anything.

We just have to realize and admit that we are fucking broken as a people. There is something wrong with us, something flawed with our overactive empathy and obedience to perceived collective values. The jews found the exact right lever to genocide us, SLOW AS FUCK, and we're not doing anything.

>>513515522
>with no weapons
Hmm yeah because there were no weapons used during the bolshevik revolution or WW1/2, and certainly no mossad trained militarized police with a surveillance state in white western countries

>>513515674
But those were all white people, killing other white people, for jews. Jews don't fight themselves, they just rile up their golems.

>>513515742
Bolshevik revolution was 80% jews and then the jews psyoped whites to fight against each other. Jews did plenty of violent terrorism and false flags. They no longer needed to get their own hands dirty when enough goyim were compromised with blackmail.

>>513512760 (OP)
Because european elites were always evil. Basically jews lite.

>>513515801
>Bolshevik revolution was 80% jews
No it wasn't. The leadership of the Bolshevik revolution was 80% jews (actually more like 100% accounting for cryptos.) But the actual fighting forces of the Bolshevik revolution, the people actually running around fighting, were Russians.

>>513515674
nigger jews took your shit way before these modern times. all of this modern shit seems fake anyway, hitler just basically walking in and taking over, same with romanovs. shit seems phony as fuck. I think just like slavery, religion, etc. the rulers just found a better way to rule and switched up.

>>513512760 (OP)
>>513512760 (OP)
Rome even have special laws protecting them, so its older than Europe or Christendom.

>>513512945
>racially pure jew
>looks nothing like an Arab, who are semites
Lol. They're mutts but the worse kind, they're antagonist to their white half.

>>513512760 (OP)
Brainwashed by christniggerdom

>>513512760 (OP)
The slowly usurp power over years, its unsceen and evil as, aka they will pretend not ot be jews until they have power then abuse it,

>>513515114
Lol European aristocracy are stupid as fuck. I would've just had the jew killed when he came to collect, then I would order people to spread rumors of a violent mugging, and have my agents arrest and disappear any would be witnesses that try to promote a counter narrative

>>513516084
>which rome?
the italy shit hasnt been there as long as you think

>>513515559
>memeflag
>my culture is primitive and recent, thus yours must be too
Elite levels of jeet cope. Because indian history began with the mughals doesn't mean ours did as well

>>513513802
He's not implying that. He literally says jews view gentiles as subhuman. Jews were in no way innocent. They were more than happy to use those positions to enrich themselves and enslave the goyim. But it's objectively true that without the protection of the crown, jews would have just been kicked out or slaughtered by the local populace. Jews have always enjoyed a symbiotic relationship with European elites dating back thousands of years. For whatever reason, European elites are predisposed to submission toward jews, while European peasants are not, which is why most anti-jew revolts are bottom-up and not top-down and European leaders had to constantly use their armies to protect jews from their own peasant population.

Even before Christianity, the Greeks attempted to Hellenize the jews instead of just wipe them out. There is something fundamentally broken in the minds of Europe's leadership caste that makes them have an infinitely exploitable blind spot for jewish subversion. It always ends badly for them (see European nobility in the 20th century and WASP elites in the US post-1950) and they always lose to jews. The only people who beat jews are grug-brained Whites who just smash their heads in with rocks.

>>513513802
I didn't imply that at all, they deserve everything they get

>>513512760 (OP)
The power structure was different when nobility was still a thing. Jewish bankers and accountants were just the middle men. The nobility wanted this. Jews were the scapegoat.

>>513516506
Its because people actually sit down and debate them, you give weight to their beliefs by even entertaining their bullshit at all. Its why jewish bullshit only works on midwife. Low IQ simply dont comprehend their arguments and reasons and the high IQ simply know not to care.

>>513516766
Midwits** fucking auto correct is so fucking gay and niggered up. It won't correct nigger words but does so for internet speech.

>>513512760 (OP)
Because the rulers themselves were jews, or married to jews. Because the jews married their daughters into power to attain special privileges for themselves. They'e been doing this since abraham pimped his sisterwife to the pharoah. The jews become very resented and hated because of how they abuse their power over others. I live in new york. The kikes have their own special police force called the shomrim, which harasses nonjews for noncrimes. Mostly just walking through jewish neighborhoods. And if there is an incident between a jew and a nonjew? The jew cops always take the side of the jew. I was arrested by the shomrim, because some jew accused me of scratching his car. No proof, no nothing. They came up to me, flashed their badges and arrested me. Didn't say why or for what. I spent 24 hours in the brooklyn mdc, because apparently I matched the description of the perp. Which was a very unfair accusation because they knew what I looked like. There is no defense against such an accusation. By the time I got out, my own car had been stolen and the cops did nothing. I really despise the jews. They are the most evil and vindictive race. If they have power over you they will maliciously abuse it. Just like niggers. Look at gaza for god sakes. If they could get away with worse they would!

>>513512760 (OP)
Doppelganger parasites are a challenging opponent. We haven't found the solution to curing medical cancer yet; a final solution for a cancerous subversive group is also challenging.

Also, the ancient dna origins of Whites are in 3 or 4 distinct clusters. We've had thousands of years of fighting and integration. There are still challenges in dealing with Northwest, Mediterranean, and Slavic differences. Having Iranian, Caucuses, and Turkish "cousins" also complicates things.
Semitic inbred desert slavcast war conscripts act as a pool of troops to throw at Whites if jews don't get what they want. Or the jews get the central asian Mongoloids to spaz out and invade.

It's a PvP game of Risk and everyone knows Whites would win if you don't subvert and stop them. So, every weakness or vice is exploited to stop the Whites from thriving. You can win the Risk game if you get White's girlfriend to make him quit. Or agitation White to the point he flips the board out of rage. Or blackmail White outside of the game. Or cheat and move pieces when White isn't looking. Etc, etc.

Either Whites cure cancer, like they cured smallpox and become an interstellar empire, or they die of dysentery and it becomes Planet of the Apes. The maybe whatever comes after dinosaurs and humans will succeed.