Why does it matter who is “punk rock”? What the fuck does that even mean?

>>513519662 (OP)
No one cares about punk rock except the aging brits in the 70s who were concerned about it being a bad influence on children. If anything, it just made new genres of music that were inspired by the shitty musicians of punk that miraculously fired off some bangers with the help of their handlers of course.

>>513519662 (OP)
>>513519911
I care about punk rock.
Here's a neat punk rock cover of Livin La Vida Loca by Ricky Martin (with bonus kazoos)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aBQAj5CBMGo

true scotsman propaganda

>>513519662 (OP)
i first thought when reading this is, "oh, jack black probably fucked some kids"

>>513519662 (OP)
Jack got famous for doing 'I pretend I am cringe' type of comedy. Later people found out he is not pretending and it lost charm

Look at those predatorial kike eyes. I can see his great grandfather executing Christians.
What’s piece of shit
The readers of this may be aware that an anti Zionist group has already deemed him a subversive Jew. Seinfeld and Kimmel ( Mr. get your vaccine or your not cool)

>>513520408
Then he would've supported Trump, tranny.

punk is anarchy. you dont vote for punk

>>513519662 (OP)
He meant Biden was a punk who literally sank like a rock.

>>513519662 (OP)
I personally have never heard of a single punk rock band, punk rock band member, or a punk rock fan say that Jack Black is punk rock, let alone cool.

I don't think there is a single Tenacious D song that IS punk rock.
Metal, maybe.
Hard rock, maybe.
Melodonic rock, myabe.

Punk, no.

Also a fat jew trying to deflect his Judaism by pretending to be a fake devil worshiper/fan, while being a modern jew to begin with is being a demon worshiper.

I don't think I've heard anyone from:
The Misfits
Sex Pistols
Current Ramones
The Dead Boys
The Dead Milkmen
The Kinks
Iggy Pop
Or others say Jack Black is "Punk Rock"

Maybe fags like Henry Rawlings, or Blink 182 would.

maybe he means punk rock is gay and noise. to be treated as such.

>>513522338
I am not into that scene at all, but if you are trying to be one, then go for it

>>513519662 (OP)
It means "I'm a celebrity who's morals are for sale, and [team] gave me a shit load of money to say stupid shit that could then be construed as an endorsement despite not making any sense what so ever.".

>>513519662 (OP)
>fat kike celebrity has an opinion
Let’s see what an actual punk has to say on the matter

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>>513525268
Punk is anti-establishment and anti-authoritarian attitude foremost. The fashion was a reflection of that at the time. Outlandish offensive outfits including Nazi pieces as a contrast to repressed, button-down 70’s Britain where men still wore bowler hats during the day. Punk was hijacked by weak faggot cosplayers who lack the requisite anti-establishment attitude

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>>513519662 (OP)
>Republicans aren't the new counterculture, they're the new Justin Bieber. Biden's punk as hell, man. You see him pull up in the Camaro wearing jeans and shades? Hell yes. Hashtage Epic.
Punk Rock was formed as counter culture. Punk Rock based on its entire history is contrarian in nature. It exists as a way to holding a mirror up to the powers that be. And in today's culture, the powers that be, they are "progressive" and predatory on the nature of goodwill towards man. Speaking from a Western perspective because I am a Man of the West. Tolerance is noble. Don't get me wrong. But there is a limit. President Teddy Roosevelt said it best in his Hyphenated American speech. If you are abandoning a country/culture to find liberty/prosperity in America/The West then you have a moral obligation to abandon your Old World allegiances.

>>513519662 (OP)
dissidents from a few decades ago. it's not that complicated.

>>513519662 (OP)
someone should tell Jack theres nothing more "Punk rock" than being a Christian. which excludes his satanic jewish ass. take it to the bank, jacky boy!

>>513526847
Oh do fuck off. Christianity is the most normie, conformist NPC mindset of all

The majority of Americans reject the policies of the Democratic National Committee. This forces the DNC to try to make every election about meaningless superficial bull shit like this Jack Black ad.

The policies implemented by Democrats are malicious and evil.
The central and most loudly proclaimed part of the Democratic National Committee's platform is the unrestricted and unregulated murder of our most helpless and innocent souls.
The murder of our most innocent is bad enough to recoil from every democrat in horror.
Second to abortion the DNC promotes unregulated and unrestricted immigration that allows a flow of drugs and human trafficking that is destructive to America. Not only did the Biden administration ignore and undermine US federal immigration law by not enforcing it they used taxpayer money to fly violent illegals into America from Haiti and Somalia. It is inexplicable.
This is a video of the people of Sylacauga Alabama trying to figure out how their town was filling up with Haitian immigrants.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZqWhNUAYmY&t=2s
Minneapolis Minnesota has a large Somali population. Ghettos with thousands of low IQ Somali's are not a natural occurring phenomena in Minnesota.
The destruction of America's military capability by prioritizing LGBTQ + pedophile diversity over readiness.
The horrific war in Ukraine lies 100% at the feet of the Biden administration State Department. Obama's own Ambassador to the United Nations is recorded during an interview as saying the Russian / Ukraine War would not have started if Donald Trump was President because he would have given Putin what he wanted. She intended it as a slam against Trump but most people now understand that Putin's demands in 2021 were far less costly to America and Ukraine than this horrific war has proven to be.
The constant lies and gas lighting of the American people by democrats and their captured media propagandists is too much to bear. The smug self satisfaction of these people as they knowingly lie is only exceeded by their stupidity.

>>513519662 (OP)
>punk rock
Boomer Gen X garbage that they thought was edgy.

>>513519662 (OP)
>When you're in the cinema

>>513527686
Maybe in the West. In the rest of the world the default position is Hinduism or Islam. We in the West are a global minority.

He's just another retarded leftist Jew feeling the need to annoy everyone with his shitty Tikkun Olam.

>>513519662 (OP)
>oh my fuckin' heckin satan.. Jew Black said something thats for our cause!! lets go!!
Get a grip faggots.

>>513519662 (OP)
Imagine chaining yourself to the sinking ship of Biden.

I’m actually genuinely surprised Jack Black hasn’t been implicated with Epstein yet

>>513519662 (OP)
>guys who wanna overthrow the establishment aren't punk!
>demented, rich, old white dudes who built the status quo to what it is today are punk rock

This is your brain on Hollywood

>>513522338
Nope your hyperbolic shit will never out weight biden literally having inappropriate showers with his daughter by her own admission

>>513519662 (OP)
Jack Black the original died and the clone is just a watered down hallucinating chicken jockey.

>>513519911
Modern punk hates punk hilariously enough

>>513522338
That tryhard cringworthy attempt to deflect Biden's literally caught on tape pedo behavior isn't working Shlomo
I think it's time to sit this one out and get paid to actually do something productive and not shill for the DNC

>>513528530
Little gen alpha boy makes a statement.
Kek.

>>513519662 (OP)
Growing up, jack black was one of my favorite actors. Seeing him become a political mouthpiece for our corrupt and disgusting institutions really, really disappointed me.

>>513525757
>Punk was hijacked by weak faggot cosplayers who lack the requisite anti-establishment attitude
But them trust fund kids have hella lit outfits tho amirite

no one thinks leftists are cool. everyone thinks they are deranged, sociopathic, cringelords

>>513519662 (OP)
jack black, adam sandler, and seth rogan are the most annoying kikes to ever walk the earth

>>513534569
Are we?

How many people we killed?

Names and method plz

>>513525757
>Punk was hijacked by weak faggot cosplayers who lack the requisite anti-establishment attitude
That didn't happen until much later on. I was there at the time.

>>513523531
Did you just write that song?

>>513523531
>The Kinks
Punk Rock?????
You Mutts should just stay out of this.

>>513529116
Punk is a western subculture so my previous assessment of Christianity as it pertains to the west remains accurate. You people are so tiresome and narcissistic, always trying to insert your cult into every conversation, no matter how irrelevant. Just fuck off

>>513519662 (OP)
Punk is prison slang for a bitch you made into a slave and have gay sex with their butt hole.

>>513519662 (OP)
Chicken jockey

>>513534720
They were still largely sheepish though. Just with their own herd rather than the herd at large.
And even that lot pretend songs like White Riot, or Siouxsie Sioux wearing swastika armbands didn't happen.

>>513534916
And no Stranglers?

>>513533963
Based and truepilled. Punk, at it's core, is contrarian. Much like 4chan. Wanna know what's actually punk? See what's regularly and returnably rejected as antithetical to the status quo.
SPOILER: Whatever honors and respects your neighbor in regards to "popular" culture is Punk. We are all humans. We are all fighting through the same struggle. Support your culture as much as you're able to while ALSO supporting your neighbor's expectation of society. Western Civ is the goal. But if immigrants cannot conceive the same, they are deservant upon humility until proven otherwise. If an immigrant is not willing to assimilate then they should not be treated as a native.

I'm saying this with full knowledge that there will be more Ethnic Germans in the USA than Germany within a few generations. If you value your ideology/morality then you better damn well also value your genealogy.

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>>513537852
British Punk was a movement, it didn't last that long as posers started to get on board, it was good at the time while it lasted.

The later bands are just trying to cash in
Green day, etc.

>>513519662 (OP)
He's not wrong. To him, "punk rock" means, essentially, a movement which has principled objections to herd mentality and orthodoxy -- that's essentially what punk is: an aestheticized anti-orthodoxy. You probably disagree, and probably on hair-splitting technicalities, and that's OK; you don't need to agree with that for the purposes of this point, just whether or not that's a decent way of expressing how punk tends to see itself, which it is.

The broader point here is that nothing MAGA expresses is actually all that edgy. It's not the movement of free-thinking radicals it pretends to be. It's a group of people caught up in a social movement which is itself reactionary; and reactionaries are intrinsically counter-revolutionary.

MAGA is the new mainstream, but it has this strange inability to conceive of itself as such. It's a kind of Schrodinger's movement where it has to be super-slick anti-mainstream for its self-image as super-cool radicals but also simultaneously be able to tell anyone within earshot that it won, you lost, and that victory is permanent so you might as well not try to resist.

This is a dissonant worldview, to put it likely, and it's why I like to frame MAGA as the dog that finally caught the car. Now that your guy is in office and now that he's fully and totally surrounded by sycophants who do everything he tells them to do without question... now what? Now that he's sitting on top of a gutted federal system run by people chosen primarily for loyalty, now what? Now that he's actually DOING all of the crazy shit and nothing is actually getting demonstrably better for the average American... now what?

The answer is to turn back into that mainstream consensus you've worked so hard to create. Keep pretending you're the antiheroes doing the "hard realist" (but no no no totally not nihilistic haha) actions which will "save America" from the vicious clutches of Other Tribe. It's all just so nonsensical, herdbrained, and pointless.

>>513520408
Early life section = yes every single time

>>513525757
>Punk was hijacked by weak faggot cosplayers who lack the requisite anti-establishment attitude

Punk has always been faggot, they loved their drugs, ass fucking and degeneracy. They wore outlandish things for attention, just like a fucking woman they crave the dopamine.

>>513538646
Based 50% out of 100%. You're almost there. But I'm too drunk to enumerate why you're missing that last %50. Suffice to say, people deserve to be free. Regardless of political choice. Ignorance doesn't equal guilt except in the positions said knowledge bringing about said knowledge.

>>513539259
You're retarded and have no real alternative social experience in a major coastal city of the time period being discussed. This is evident by your post, no need to concede.

The person you are responding to is correct. Punk / Hardcore scenes had different ethos, but the underlying anti-corporate and anti-establishment dissent was present throughout.

What you are confusing for punk is the skater kids at your flyover highschool.

>Democrats being punk
They aren't punk. Being punk is being rebellious. These people are conformist by every measure. They're too afraid to offend anyone which isn't the spirit of punk. Biden was a dementia patient and everyone knew it. I don't expect much from out of touch celebrities to know anything about the world outside of their Hollywood bubble and what they're told to believe.

>>513519662 (OP)
Punk rock just means you were late to the scene. You didn't grow up in 50s-60s California. You didn't surf, you didn't drive a bigass steel car with the girls next door. You didn't enjoy the post-war peace of victors. Its whining about not being alive back then, instead of living in your own time. No wonder punk gave into grunge and rap, at least metal sounds good when lifting.

>>513519911
>"bangers"
you know where you need to fuck off to

>>513540257
>But I'm too drunk to enumerate why you're missing that last %50
Explicit flags representing ingroup membership, maybe? Some good old rabble-rousing? An n-bomb or two, just so you get the feeling I'm "one of the guys" to dilute the meaning into something more easily metabolized, like the literal poison coursing through your veins? I'm not about any of that shit, if you haven't noticed.

>>513519662 (OP)
I can't fucking stand this guy. His beard is stupid too.

>>513519662 (OP)
Punk isn't an aesthetic, it's an attitude. Punk's spitting in polite society's eye.

>>513522338
Nah, Blue Team is pro pedo too just like Red Team.

>>513541096
I'm on your side if you haven't noticed. I want to minimize human/sapient suffering as much as possible. Flags are a small/insignificant part of our conversation. /pol/ is a poor forum to discus this conversation.
>literal poison coursing through your veins?
Does God speak to you? He/it speaks to me. Do you not desire justice like I do? Do you not desire repercussions?
>>513542116
Both are unworthy of God's Justice.

>>513522290
>down with the moral majority!
that did not age well, sounds like he wants segregation back (based)

>>513519662 (OP)
Get wrecked fag

>>513519662 (OP)
punk was always garbage and a gay-kike afront against white culture.
all punk enjoyers are faggots or woman. the trash goes with the definition.
also what a genre of music has to do with politics?
fucking clownish.

I listen to punk rock and have seemingly forever. It is far from the only music I enjoy and has very little influence on the music I write, but I have always loved the simplicity and energy of it. I have never and will never adopt one iota of the fashion related to punk rock.

>>513526046
>pic related
Wasn't that the guy they had join the band even though he couldn't play music or sing?

>>513519662 (OP)
this dude's band fucking sucks

>>513545545
Agreed. Whoever told Jack Black that his music isn't ass lied to him.

>>513533974
You should throw some more buzzwords in there then maybe I wouldn't be so sure that this is your first day on the job you gay nigger faggot shill. Fuck trump. Fuck trump harder than those kids he fucked with his kike handlers.

>>513519662 (OP)
>Who is counterculture?
>The New York billionaire who does whatever the fuck he wants
>or
>The career politician who does whatever the fuck he wants
Only difference I see there is that Donald Trump is worth more money than Joe Biden

>>513546153
Must mean he sucked off more kikes, judging by ZD's track record, I'd say that's completely true.

>>513519662 (OP)
if biden is anything to go by, punk rock means you sniff and grope kids

>>513519662 (OP)
And to think Jack Black is another communist kike.

>>513519662 (OP)
>according to the inventor of flingu punk rock is dementia
I'm not confused at all, ironically or literally.

>>513519662 (OP)
That was in 2020. His career sure got a nice little shit if adrenaline after that.

>>513519662 (OP)
You don't try to analyze what a kike said. You tell him to get into the oven.

>>513542907
If you listen to the left, they do want segregation.

>>513520417
He's a Jew "comedian" and like every single other one of them, they have a single character and play it for decades. Adam Sandler, Seinfeld, Handler, Shumer. This in and of itself would be fine if it wasn't goddamn annoying and actually funny

i dont understand what counterculture is. most people think the government is scum