How the fuck is the average American paying rent anymore? Are they really bunking up like Indians now?

>>513528309 (OP)
Americans are pathetic..kek they have roommates in there 30s

>>513528309 (OP)
/pol/ told me that Americans earn $300K per year and Europe is poor.

So this must be lies?

It's either section 8 or roommates.
As for me, I'm living with my parents for the forseeable future and I have zero complaints, because holy fuck the housing market is awful where I am

>>513528309 (OP)
41 year old that works full time but only makes $50k and I still live with my dad. My only options are pay dad $500 a month to live in a nice 5 bedroom house on 1 acre with detached garage and a couple of sheds (to store ATVs and snowmobiles) or pay friends anywhere from $500-$1,000 a month to live in a cramped apartment or ghetto ass house with ZERO privacy. Single bedroom apartments around me start at like $1,200 on the low end. $1,500-$2,000 is typical for something nice. At least living with my dad I can save up money (and am)

Universal Credit/Housing benefit keeps the NEETs housed here, but so called "council houses" were replaced by "housing associations" that are shit and don't fix problems fast enough.

>>513528877
Saving up for what, moving to SEA?

>>513528993
well i was saving up for a house but that ship just may have sailed. Might have to go get some flip pussy and live in a hut in a jungle.

>>513528966
Not true.
Housings associations are usually quick off the mark to fix problems, private landlords - not so.

>>513528309 (OP)
Most be a healthy economy that is build around answering emails.

>>513528309 (OP)
It’s because there’s so much anti-rural propaganda (just look up the etymology of the word “villain”) that people think they have to pay $2,500/month because otherwise “there’s nothing to do”

>>513529240
Good
I want 10-20 acres of land in my home state and I have "plenty to do" while outdoors.
Hell I have plenty on my PC/consoles to do as well as my personal Blu ray collection.

The people who manage to move out from home are those who live in a cluttered lefty polyamorous geek households where a fat girl is poly or the sleaze with pimped out goth junkie girlfriend, and a few third wheels. The others are those who have a girlfriend or wife to split the bills with and are physically attractive enough to get a job outside of retail that pays just enough to live.

>>513529141
Well it's better to have an Asian mexican with your buying power .

>>513529240
Rural towns have shit economic options now. You’re either working HVAC in 120 degree weather hating your life, roofing in the same weather for not as much, or working retail for chump change. The medical fields are filled only with women, and only hire women. Rural towns became retirement towns and everyone suffered because of that.

>>513529359
>physically attractive enough to get a job outside of retail
What?

>>513529441
Have you ever seen an attractive adult working for minimum wage or a job that doesn’t suck like night shift?

>>513528309 (OP)
Good. I hope they evict you all and replace you in your homes with spic and pakis.

>>513529613
RARE

>>513528309 (OP)
Old article?
The median income of a full time working in the US is $60k which equates to about $30 an hour.
So either this article is old or they are using some skewed metric where they exclude salaried employees from the data or something like that.
The one bedroom apartment thing might be misleading too. Apartments tend to be located in dense areas which tend to also be the highest cost per square meter. Maybe it is different in the US with all your inner city ghettos, but here a two or even three bedroom home in the outter suburbs, where there are very few apartments, will cost you the same as a one bedroom apartment closer to the city centre.
This is only starting to change in the last decade with the massive push for density due to mass migration and the construction of apartments further out in the suburbs.
But US cities are still not very dense so I reckon there could be something like this going on that is making this statistic seem more dramatic then it really is.

>>513528309 (OP)

>>513528395
>there
Their*
Retard

>>513529692
>using some skewed metric
Ou vey how dare you suggest journos are anything but honest and true! It's a anudda shoa!

>>513528877
people lived with their parents and family for thousands of years. this "move out at 18" psyop is just more financial trickery to create more debt slaves. don't feel bad. be happy. spend less time focusing on what you don't have and more on what you do have. sounds like you have it max comfy.

>>513529845
This. It is just jewish trickery. Here it is completely normal, as the houses here were build for two generation. Ofc most will move when they are starting family or move to the city, but for many it is blessing.

>>513529692
Don't be fooled Bruce, the average Mutt is not as well off as you have been led to believe.

>>513528395
And you? I bet you live with your parents or also renting, or even worse, pay mortgage kek

>>513530130
>the average Mutt is not as well off as you have been led to believe.
This is quite a recent development. The covid/biden era inflation plus immigration has really fucked a lot of people.

>>513529692
It says ‘half of American workers’, you’re assuming this division is by median income.

>>513528707
I live in a pod. It's a cozy deal at only $750 per month.

>>513530250
Yes?

>>513528309 (OP)
Here we have rent control everywhere. There are still people paying sub 1k as long as they never have to leave their city.

>>513530352
>Here we have rent control everywhere
That's why your housing is so fucked

>>513530400
Yes, the cost is just passed off to people who need to move just because someone happened to sign a lease 10 years ago.

>>513530250
If you say half of American workers can't afford x then you are talking about median income.
I did cheat by using full time median income. But I don't believe that if you add part time employment to the calculation that you will get a 30%+ drop in hourly rate. Most workers do work full time or close to full time so to get a drop that drastic would mean the average part time worker would be getting like $10 an hour or less.
Plus I think it is more fair to look at full time income. While it would be nice to live in a society where an individual could support an independent lifestyle in a one bedroom apartment on a part time income, that is not the issue that this article headline is pushing. They are implying that, nation wide, half of Americans could not afford to live independently even if they wanted to.
As someone that live in a rental market that is objectively worse than even the most expensive cities in the US, let alone the whole nation (measured by median income to median rental price), it is obvious to me that the picture this article is painting is false.

>>513529240
I live rural and I'll tell you, the housing is not that much cheaper in my country where a 2-bedroom mortgage still runs you $600k+ for some fucking reason, even when there's a minimum hour's distance from any city.

That's ignoring all the cash you'll spend on fueld/vehicle wear&tear traveling locations to get your weekly essentials, or overpriced shitty rural internet.

>>513530400
Also is a giant fucking problem, but the Libs (still) give zero fucks about housing affordability, otherwise they wouldn't be hundreds of thousands of houses behind on their original projections a decade ago.

>>513528707
>section 8 of 1937 housing act
>gov subsidises your rent if you are poor. 2.3M housholds are using it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_8_(housing)
interesting, though it's only being used by the bottom 1%

>>513529845
Moving out at 18 was feasible when you could have an entire house built from scratch for the median annual income. This was the case in the 60s.

>>513528309 (OP)
Voting for DJ Vance will fix this.

>>513528707
If you vote Zion Don then he'll throw out the immigrants and fix everything.

>>513529240
Rural areas are more expensive than cities. All the rich boomers and hipster trust fundies moved out to rural towns and made them completely unaffordable. Most rentals are now airbnbs and the few remaining are $2000+/mo. These are towns with virtually no jobs outside of part time/seasonal trash. "Good" jobs are shit like prison guard or the one overpaid county job in the area.
The irony is cityfags bitch about ignorant rural people, now they ARE the ignorant rural people with more money than brains.

>>513528599
Americans that can’t afford to live on their own live with their parents or 3 other people then spend all their money on video games, onlyfans, and then Pokémon cards so Snopes has determined that this is /mostly true/

>>513531941
This is what boomers actually believe. You probably think $20/hr is "huge" pay, too.

>>513528309 (OP)
And yet they will pay a 600 a month lease for a car and whine they have no money

>>513531574
>I live rural and I'll tell you, the housing is not that much cheaper in my country where a 2-bedroom mortgage still runs you $600k+ for some fucking reason, even when there's a minimum hour's distance from any city.
Same in Aus.
My guess is that despite all our land, most of it is owned by the state and not available for private use. Combine that with our fucked up urban housing markets that more and more people are trying to flee, and the fact that rural people are not in a rush to move to the city and you end up with a supply and demand situation that makes rural properties not that much of a bargain, even when they are in the middle of fucking nowhere.
But it is different in the US, and the variance of price across different domestic US property markets is much greater than it is in Aus and Canada.

>>513532061
I make 60k and live on my own in a 1br in a suburb, rent is 1k. So I have a point of reference to compare to fags on Antiwork who post about making 50-60k or even more crying about how they can’t afford rent or meds and are also posting about their latest Switch 2 game or Pokémon card haul, or 40k addiction. So yes, it really do be like that.

>>513532078
>are not in a rush to move to the city
Sucks to be where I live where the city slowly expands outwards towards rural anyway. Used to not have rush hour traffic in the nearby towns here (there's a city a couple hours away), but since the pandemic ended, I've been seeing a fair bit of it, and stopped doing any shopping around those times.

>>513532078
Here they strangle housing construction with permits and environmental bullshit. Its impossible to build a normal income home without suffering a loss because of it

>>513528877
>>513529845
I'm similar to anon except my parents refuse to accept rent money because the house is paid off, so I always keep the fridge and pantries stocked. Idk if I even have a desire to move out anymore. My goal was to move out when I hit $70k per year, but doing the math again, I'd be living paycheck to paycheck in most rentals. Then I thought, maybe I can move out at $100k per year, but thats not really that much after taxes these days either. Then I realized that I have no plans of ever getting married or having kids and I have no desire to even date anymore so what is the fucking point of living in an apartment or house by myself when I can can be taking care of my parents and enjoying their company... I might just career max to the highest yearly salary I can attain and just put like 80% of it into investments.

yeah. i know 10+ people from growing up in austin who are 4-year college graduates, married, and still renting (house or apartment), in their 30s. because the housing market is insane. they were born in austin and at that time housing was very affordable (1990s). people have had to move out of the city because they cant afford property taxes (value of houses goes up so do taxes)

>>513532758
sounds like a very common situation. people whose family is unforgiving are the guys in amazon warehouses who have 3 or 4 adult roomates. they cant even save money TOWARD house

>>513530253
Your fucked if your truck ever shits the bed and that toolbox house is no longer mobile, all it takes is one accident or loss of a job for more than a week or two.

Then it's straight to a shelter full of drug addicts and niggers or camping in the woods like all white Americans that become homeless.

Awesome! I bought my first house to celebrate Trump's win ( now regret because he is pedo) and it was a little shaky at first but since a bunch of you retards will never save all your money for years like I did and will only be able to rent that increases the value for property owners. I'm starting to work on buying a second house so I can rent it out and make you idiots buy it for me. Thanks brokees.

>>513528309 (OP)
You squat
Preferably one of those homes that Blackstone owns.

How am I supposed to be motivated to work or work at all when I can’t even get a cheap apartment of my own to get away from my crazy BPD demon cunt of a mother? I work 10 hour days and come home to her screaming about something I did or someone else did it doesn’t matter ten years ago and how everyone hates her and how miserable life is. She does nothing but smoke weed, smoke 10 dollar cigarettes, and drink all fucking day and complains about how hard life is for her literally that’s it. She treats me like how she treated my dad and even does creepy shit like refer to me as, “her love” or “the man of the house”. What the fuck why was I born into this shit life?

>>513528395
Yeah because Paris is so affordable bro

>>513531574
Damn, sounds more dire in Canada. $600k in Georgia would get you a LOT.

>>513528309 (OP)
i have a micro-studio. 300 sq ft.