>Retards progress towards becoming a Kardashev type 1 civilization out of petty partisanship and ignorance

>>513540098 (OP)
nuclear power > solar and wind

store the excess nuclear power by creating hydrogen to power planes and shit

FUSE HELIUM 3
IT IS OUR LAST HOPE

>>513540098 (OP)
your fully automated gay space communism fantasy isn't real
best to focus on what is real and tangible

Is he ever going to recover from Scotland building "windmills" off of the coast of his golf course?

>>513540231
>nuclear power > solar and wind
The sun is basically just a huge nuclear reaction.

>>513540098 (OP)
Imagine tweeting in that format while also declaring that the days of stupid are over.

>>513540098 (OP)
Progress is a false god.

>>513540276
>thinks solar power is “communism”
you just outed yourself as a retard.

>>513540231
But why not both?
Solar panels on your house could mean more independence and security if the grid goes down.
Then nuclear is great for powering the AI that will compel us all to make healthier decisions.

>>513540373
that you can only capture a few hours a day and only when there are no clouds, which makes trying retarded. There is literally nowhere in canada you can do solar that will ever generate enough energy to pay down the carbon footprint of creating the panel in the first place
>>513540506
see above

>>513540098 (OP)
Solar became so dirt cheap that it sounds pretty retarded to not use it...
Of course it can't be your only energy source and you will always need other, but why not take some basically free energy at least as long as the sun shines?

About to put that shit on my private roof, should have payed for itself after 6-7 years.

>>513540098 (OP)
Even if you dont like wind or solar, how would that increase electricity or energy costs? All you are doing is increasing supply, you aren't reducing non-renewable energy supply

>>513540342
Kek, this explains his hate boner for green energy lol
I thought it was the standard getting-payed-by-oil-companies, but trump is too retarded to do secret corruption (he's great at out in the open corruption only)

>>513540536
people like (You) are the reason we don’t have walkable cities or energy efficiency. You clearly have no idea how any of this works.

>>513540452
Did you think that sounded clever without realizing it's the most ridiculous thing ever uttered?

>>513540098 (OP)
> Put solar panels on house
> Pays for itself in 5 years
> 20 years free electricity

> Put solar panels in desert
> Electricity price goes up 15% yoy

Wtf is going on here?

>>513540098 (OP)
Windmills are the absolute worse source of energy. If it wasn't heavily subsidized, they wouldn't exist at all. California just lifted oil refinery and drilling regulations in their state because their "clean energy" polices made energy unaffordable. I don't believe fossil fuels are the answer, but neither are other forced "green" energy sources. New Jersey is also a major subject to this topic. It's going to be a red wave again in midterms

>>513540536
Are you a bit retarded or stuck in the 90s or something? Solar became pretty efficient.
Friend of mine put some panels on his roof, produced 3+MW (basically what I use in a year) in the first 3 months of the year, in fucking German winter.

>>513540650
we have both already idiot so you clearly dont
>>513540797
lmao germany built out 200% of their enegy needs in wind and solar but it only produces 7% of your energy because germany is neither windy or sunny. Germans really are a retarded bunch

>>513540736
In parts probably because everything involving the state goes to shit and becomes way to expensive/inefficient.

>>513540697
How many people have to die fir your Utopia?
How much indignity must we suffer?
All technology is ultimately used as a weapon by the rulers against the ruled.

>>513540373
Imagine thinking this was somehow an argument for solar over nuclear...

>>513540098 (OP)
He clearly intends to try to blame wind and solar power for the electricity price increases caused by new AI data centers

I have a feeling China is doing fine with their long term investments in sustainable energy. I wish him luck with his shorts on American companies trying to keep up.

>>513540098 (OP)
He will ban solar power, forcing everyone to connect to the grid. Want to move into the woods and live in a solar-powered house? Forget it, they will have absolute control over you.

>>513540889
>Have efficient solar panel business, outcompeting other solar installers, have good reputation
>Government introduces 5% tax rebate on solar
>Suddenly by business becomes incredibly inefficient
Lol

>>513540098 (OP)
This is why China is decades ahead. Conservatives need to be banned from politics like they are over there.

>>513540098 (OP)
He Isn’t wrong, the battery technology from renewables is good. But solar and windmills waste too much land and material. They lack energy density. The only option is nuclear long term.

>>513540874
>lmao germany built out 200% of their enegy needs in wind and solar but it only produces 7% of your energy because germany is neither windy or sunny. Germans really are a retarded bunch
So what? Just build as much as you need. Who care for "maximal potential output"? If I have to put 15kW panels on my roof to have enough energy even in winter I do so. Why would I care about the potential maximal output? Just calculate if it is worth it finacially for you.

>>513541140
It's not like the US lacks land that is sparsely inhabited. Most of the raw material used to produce (silicon-based) solar panels is sand, which I don't think the world is going to run out of anytime soon

>>513540565
In the case of NY state, "green energy" also comes with regulations. They banned gas peaker plants that used to cover high demand, spiking energy costs during summer and winter. Solar and wind cost a fortune to setup and they just don't produce consistent output. Battery plants help with this issue, but they add to the cost yet again.
In the end wind and solar are expensive and complicated methods of generating small amounts of power. My power bill quadrupled the moment NY state went into "green" energy, and another rate hike was approved. We also have way more power outages.

>>513540231
Cool, so who is going to pay to build those reactors and who is going to own them? Its not illegal for private buisness to build nuclear plants so how come they don't?

>>513540373
Thanks for letting us know you're a shitskin.

>>513541140
>USA
>waste too much land and material.

You fucking what?

>>513540098 (OP)
There's nothing wrong with solar, wind on the other hand is a meme.

>>513540231
All good.

>>513540098 (OP)
>wind power
>the most fucking inefficient form of power.
>type 1 wind power
Are you retarded? A nigger perhaps?

>>513541385
Your bill spiked because of electric companies being greedy faggots. I went solar and I no longer have an electric bill. The whole system covered itself in 3 years. Sounds like you are just lying to push a political agenda.

Got any more lies to spout?

>>513541395
There were two recent attempts in the US, at Vogtle and Summer. Those projects ended up being the financial Chernobyls. Summer was cancelled halfway through. Two reactors at Vogtle were completed but ended up being one of the most expensive power plants in history. They bankrupted Westinghouse and SCANA and almost brought down Toshiba. So right now there is little investor appetite for new nuclear reactors in the US, especially not large nuclear reactors that put a lot of capital at risk.

>>513541395
>Hey here's an idea: how about we, the energy oligarchs, make people pay us less by introducing a better type of energy generation
Said no one ever.
>>513541467
For personal use, I agree. Solar is fine. For an entire grid? No. Solar is not fine. Windmills are never fine.

>>513540390
he is based and you are a faggot

>>513540874
>it only produces 7% of your energy
Also just checked the numbers because that sounded very low. It actually is 54%, stupid mutt.

>>513541662
Whatever you say, you retarded kike.

>>513541007
It's shortsighted to think that using a small nuclear reaction on Earth is better than harnessing the immense power of the sun and other stars.

>>513541783
What about creating a sun on Earth?

>>513541820
Why not both?

>>513540098 (OP)
He's fucking right. My state is huge in turbines, and our fucking energy bill has went up by 33% since I moved in around 2022

>>513541820
He took the bait.

What an idiot

>>513541466
Yes let’s turn our beautiful nature into a black silicon hell when we could just have a walmart sized building power the whole state

Jfc you euros are disgusting

>>513541918
Can you think of anything else that has been built in your balancing authority area since 2022? Any data centers?

>>513540098 (OP)
What a fucking retard honestly. These 3.5 years left are going to cost a lot to aberiga, they'll lag behind everyone about 20 years in everything. And the next administrations will never recover or learn from this, rather just blame eachother.
t. work for chinese ev tech

>>513541783
Transmission loss from traveling millions of miles, then inefficient recapture. Fusions is close. But nuclear is here

Solar panels, 15 years tops, then buried in a landfill as toxic waste. Windmill, about the same ending, but also using large amounts of oil to lubricate and run.

>>513540098 (OP)
Retard in chief just wants the fossil fuel industry people to get rich. He will never spearhead any meaningful nuclear fusion tech. I would outright refuse to work for this retard.

>>513540098 (OP)
Why would you close yourself off to any source of energy?

Wind and solar are perfectly fine, you just have to understand their limitations. They don't do base load well, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with slapping solar panels on as many roofs as possible.

>>513541043
>I have a feeling China is doing fine with their long term investments in sustainable energy. I wish him luck with his shorts on American companies trying to keep up.


they have the resources and supply chain, and that's all they need

>>513541980
>bumfuck nowhere desert area in New Mexico or something that nobody ever sees anyways
>turn our beautiful nature into

Ok, mate.
Also I think this looks pretty cool.

>>513540557
A concept to hard to understand for burgers but on the flipside they have a shitload of oil and we dont.

Donald trump is actually a pretty decent golf player.

>>513542496
+o

>>513542046
No new data centers here, would have been huge news

Real issue is utilities companies for profit VS community owned. My area of CA has SMUD, decent amount of clean energy and some of the cheapest electricity. Stuff like power, water etc just should not be ran for shareholder profits.
https://www.smud.org/Rate-Information/Compare-rates
>SMUD's rates are among the lowest in California, and on average more than 50% lower than those of neighboring PG&E.

>>513541584
>solar and wind corpos aren't greedy scammers
Lol okay you keep telling me about my lived experience.

>>513540231
>store the excess nuclear power by creating hydrogen to power planes and shit
it would literally make more sense if you use mainly solar as its biggest drawback is the instability of power spikes and downs

nuclear is great because it gives a lot of energy at a constant rate
storing it is nonsensical, especially when there is no really good storing method

>>513540650
>Walkable cities
Aren't you forgetting about niggers?

>>513542738
Hold on there, pardner. You sound like a communist!

>>513540098 (OP)
>tfw your country is run by a climatic cult who wants to replace all white people with sandniggers

help us

>>513542447
There are delicate environments in the desert with specialized life. They aren’t dead zones fuckface.

>>513540373
>clouds
>defeat your nuclear reactor

>>513543012
The good method of storing is too build ponds and lakes up hill, use excess electricity to pump water into it and then release and use hydro electric plant to capture energy then. It’s dual purpose you store drinking water and irrigation while also acting as a giant ass battery

>>513542447
That's in Nevada. They took $737 million in U.S. government loan guarantees and went bankrupt. It's a total fucking scam.

>>513540098 (OP)
>record breaking energy costs
shockedjew.jpg

>>513543933
really lol?

>>513540098 (OP)
anything to own the libs!

>>513543404
I live in the rural south, big red scare boomer population, mostly tooth and nail to preserve their energy and water co-ops. America was a mistake.

>>513540585
christ, it smells like reddit in here. plenty of sources other than "orange man" have shown that wind power is a meme.

>>513543634
if there isnt a homeless person yelling on every corner, leftists think it is uninhabited.

its the data centers, thats why your electricity bill is increasing in the usa.

>>513540231
It's amazing how few people understand the retardation of those windmills. Thorium will save us, hopefully.

>>513540231
>excess nuclear power

Seriously ? Nuclear power is for basic load in the nework. It's solar and especially wind that provided excess at times. It's the combo of all these 3 that are needed. DJT is so out of touch at times. He really is.

>>513540373
Oil comes from energy given by the sun, so does coal and peat and trees, guess we should burn those instead like niggers huh

>>513540736
I know someone who just got solar and it will be 10 years to break even on the panels, plus she had to buy a $20k battery for her house.

Not my heckin’ science fiction derived descriptions of civilizations based on pure fantasy!

Somebody stop this fascist!!!

>>513541395
>who is going to pay

We the people paying in the case of large scale infrastructure projects like this is one of the permissible uses of socialism

>>513540098 (OP)
Why does he write like a 12 year old? It's really cringe to read.

>>513540452
God is a false progress.

>>513541138
you are a nigger retard. try living in the north east USA where nigger retard hippy retard niggers like you demanded we do 'green energy' and now we have the absolute highest energy costs in the entire nation and still can't even produce 1/3rd as much energy as we need.

>>513541385
the entire north east has fallen to the green energy scam and now we all have the highest energy bills in the nation. turns out that 'green energy' doesn't produce anywhere near as much energy as they claim and it's 4x+ more expensive. Also absolutely fucking retarded that green hippies won't let us build new energy infrastructure through forests to transfer abundant and green hydro energy from Canada into our states because the animals and birds and shit

>>513540557
German sir, it's literally a scam and you are retarded if you put that shit on your roof, scuffed realtor guy has tons of vids about this
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Zg1g_fwqOsA

>>513540231
Solar panels are only good on a planet with no atmosphere or arid planet close to the sun. Or solar panels around the sun like a dyson swarm or sphere. Otherwise it s pretty much useless if you have atmosphere.
Fusion power is even better

Matter antimatter annihilation is the apex

>>513545796
10 years is still pretty good. That was the standard about 5-10 years ago when home solar really took off. Why does she need a battery if she's using so little electricity the roi is 10 years though? EV? Or is the battery cost in that 10 year figure? EVs don't make financial sense. Fuel is about 30% the lifetime cost of a vehicle and electricity is only half the cost of gas per mile. So 15% savings with EVs, not great considering the higher sticker price. Soon though.

>>513546531
Barron is writing his messages. He promises him that he will allow to write his messages on truth social if he finishes the university ahahaha

>>513540098 (OP)
BUILD THE DYSON SPHERE RIGHT NOW

>>513541138
>Conservatives need to be banned from politics like they are over there.
interesting. i want to hear more about this. has china actually banned conservatives in their politics?

>>513549581
>Sphere
A Dyson swarm would be more practical than a single large structure.

windmills indicate underground bases nearby

>>513551348
I’m not sure about that, but Trump’s bizarre grudge against windmills reminds me of Don Quixote—Don "Quixote" Trump, if you will.

>>513551813
https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/tilting-at-windmills.html

>>513551348
Also gnomes.

>>513540098 (OP)
let's just build nuclear and be done with it until fusion comes online. Upside it'll generate plenty of jobs for at least 10 years.

>>513541745
your country is de-industrializing because of your energy costs. Whatever you think you're doing right, it isn't working and you're making yourself poorer and weaker.

>>513541395
New nuclear plants were illegal for, like, 40 years you retard.

>>513541783
The technology to do this efficiently doesn't exist in any meaningful way. Solar farms take up too much real estate and are easily damaged so need to be replaced. Nuclear was unfairly demonised after Fukushima, likely by the people pushing wind and solar. The correct solution was to improve nuclear technology.