The earth has warmed 2x faster than we expected.

>>513544501 (OP)
>memeflag

>>513544570
Brother idk if you know this but your Amazon rain forest is quickly turning into the cerrado

>>513544501 (OP)
2x0 is still 0

>>513544740
Thats not true silly billy

>>513544501 (OP)
thats bullshit and we all know it.

>>513544992
The earths energy imbalance is 0.8 watts per meter^2 though anon

>>513544501 (OP)
Stop calling it global change.
Call it global adjustment.
Maybe if you cunts hadn't publicly announced that every temperature reading you use for that 'science' is taken in a parking lot, and that your only plan to deal with it is complete totalitarian and population control with everyone who's left after the great convid purge owning nothing and being happy (or else), there wouldn't be such push back to what is the 3rd most pressing issue facing all life on thre planet (after kikes and poos) but here we are.

>>513545501
#1 this is a climate change thread. Please save your covid images for a different thread

#2 climate scientists discovered the urban heat island effect so if you believe in it you trusts the scientists. They also are very good at correcting for that in their data. Im glad we can both trust the science

>>513544501 (OP)
Regardless of whether or not climate change is real, you aren't going to be able to do anything about it if it is because corporations decided to do shit like pic related to save 3 cents on packaging.
Globalization is the biggest carbon emitter in the world, and all the areas with the most damaged atmosphere from emissions line up perfectly with container ship shipping routes.
Shipping container routes are also the areas bill gates wanted to spray to thicken the atmosphere if you remember that one from a few months ago.

>>513544501 (OP)
>The earth has warmed 2x faster than we expected.

No it hasn't.

Here's the official government NOAA climate data showing no warming over the past 20 years.

You lose, you get nothing, good day sir.

>>513546555
CHECKED + TRVKE

>>513546555
This is true. Environmentalism is the MOST conservative and MOST based ideology. If you arent against globalization and big tech, you are on the side of global homo

>>513544501 (OP)
Hopefully the AMOC collapsing will fix it

>>513546555
Thailand has the most robust food packing industry. They're an island and cannot support much agriculture. It makes sense for a country close to the equator to grow as much good as possible. Thailand is going to have to receive agriculture imports regardless of their packing industry.

To think this is some own it astute observation reveals the creator's, and subsequent posters', retardation. The only thing that this provides is the danger of making the Internet so easy to access

Yea it's definitely getting bad. I live further north than Toronto but we're seeing triple digits and hardly getting any rain. Also, something has certainly changed about the sun, it doesn't feel pleasant on my skin anymore, it feels the same way it felt when I visited Hawaii or Southern Mexico, intense as fuck. It's time to return to the mothership i think
>>513546909
True but it's too late. The biosphere is gone, the animals are gone, the bugs are gone, the birds are gone, the fish are gone.

>>513546854
Uh oh anon - here is the full graph you forgot to post the rest of it. Remember climate is talking about at least 40 year average temperatures. Your little graph belongs in a weather thread, not a climate thread.

global warming is one thing /pol/ is msotly wrong about
it's pretty clear it's been getting hotter
we barely have decents winters where I live anymore

>>513544501 (OP)
RED IS SCARY

>>513544943
I wonder if having temperature measuring instruments on tarmac matters from 1920 to 2025

>>513546854
>graph ends in 2023
wow I wonder why that is

>>513544501 (OP)

Kabuki theater

plenty of other indicators we can use

>>513544501 (OP)
>faster than we expected.
as expected

>>513547512
Havent seen proper snow here in the city since i was a kid

>>513544501 (OP)
Truly horrifying and yes it is a tragedy, now what about those files?

>>513547763
This graph literally proves even as solar energy decreases, the temp is rising

>>513544501 (OP)
>we account for

slang for "we massaged that data so good it couldn't walk for a week"

>>513547720
This graph ends in 1860 - it stops 95 ybp and it uses the average temperature of 1955 to define as present. It was also published in the 90s we've got better graphs than this grandpa

>>513548464
No thays so they can isolate the effect of co2 on warming i.e. correcting for factors like the urban heat island effect, solar radiation and volcanism

>>513544713
>be retarded memeflag stupid ass shitskin
>doesn't know shit about anything
>imply he does
you don't know anything about the amazon you fucking stupid ass gorila nigger.
let me redpill newfag lurk using your shill thread.
I did before, and I'll do it again, watch it.
>you said that amazon is dangerino
wrong you literal homosexual faggot, until the current continent configuration or rotation of the world change, nothing is going to happen with the amazon, the amazon itself has poor soil, it doesn't exist because of the forest, the forest exist because of the rain.
where you think rain comes from, gorila nigger? let me hint you, the reservoir of rain occupied a great part of the surface, yes you imbecile, it's the oceans!
While that remain, that will never change, while the andes exist the rivers will never dry.
the cope is free, now go defend the girrafes of the amazon as you wannabe evironmentalist niggers (((think))), and
>inb4 muh girraffes are not part of the amazon
yes, that's the point gorila-kun, is not part but last time this become a topic on huezil you could see the environmentalist niggers doing man-made forest fires said that.
the thing green peace and other NGO's, etc. are corrupt as fucked and don't care about the natural world as they say they do.
that's just a hard fact.
now that I literally btfo you with 1 data
>rain will always fall in the amazon because is feed by the 2 biggest oceans on the planet and therefore the forest isn't going anywhere
you can do a flip.
Glad to see that your pajeet ass didn't denying being a pay shill sliding for a few slave rupees.

>>513544501 (OP)
This would be more evidence that the predictions are wrong, The Science is wrong and AGW is bollocks.

>>513549882
#1 excuse you sir, I am a mormon and therefore very white and delightsome.

#2 the Amazon rainforest is definitely in trouble. YOU BELIEVE THE NORMIE SCIENCE THAT RAIN COMES FROM THE OCEAN RETARDED NORMIE KEK FAGGOT. I am based and Russian pilled and believe the biotic pump theory. You gotta nothing on Anastasia but cry harder smoothed brained baby

>>513550106
Which models particularly do you not agree with? Most of them are extremely good and recreating past temperatures and the only problem they have is they keep underestimating the amount of warming we actually observe

>>513545844
It's just that they "correct" their data in a way to guarantee their continued funding.

Two more weeks

>>513550792
I dont know what the fuck is happening in Bongland but here in the US we have a very robust mesonet network. Very sad bongs, explain yourself.

>>513550945
Lol your stupid, climate change is way slower than that

>>513550581
How eh can they know the past temps are correct with just those tools if those same tools have no validity or reliability when it comes to the future?

>>513551195
Thats a fair criticism, I agree the models are way to conservative and systemically downplay the effects of climate change. Scientists dont want everyone to panic so they err on the side of caution and downplay the model predixtions

Just think, 6000 years ago the Sahara was a jungle, until human’s invented carbon based energy causing it to become a desert through the creation of this thing called climate change. Without humans the climate doesn’t change nor does the earth warm or cool through natural universal cycles. And just think, the temperatures from morning to the afternoon increased by 15 degrees cause of climate change. Can we just go back to a time without any energy when the mortality rates hovered around 28 years old and 30 percent of new burns didn’t make it to age one and the other 50 percent who survived were dead by age 10?

https://www.thescienceexplorer.com/6000-years-ago-the-sahara-desert-was-a-tropical-jungle---what-happened-3088

>>513551673
This was due to a shift in the Amoc, not carbon based energy. Climate has always been changing but right now the rate of change is unprecedented in the earths history and it is being driven by anthropogenic co2 emissions

>>513544943
Global temperatures are actually slightly cooling.

>>513544501 (OP)
When are these fucking dipshits going to realize that if China and India dont do anything, then nothing any one else does matter
Both the chinks and street shitters have already told everyone to fuck off so either abandon this climate change bullshit and let everyone fry
OR
FRY THE FUCKING CHINKS AND STREET SHITTERS NOW

PIC VERY RELATED

>>513544501 (OP)
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/19962/climate-emergency-hoax
see river stones in europe from 500 years ago severe drought heat waves
>500 years ago
>500 years ago
http://www.google.com/search?q=river+stones+europe

>>513544501 (OP)
Jews want to turn the planet into a giant desert. Aryans want to turn the planet into a giant ice sheet. It's a holy war.

>>513547455
Lol look how it goes in the red around the same time they said ah fuck it, take the temperature on tarmacs and on rooftops next to AC units in the middle of heat sink cities, our scam ain't gonna fund itself!

>>513552053
I already debunked this exact graph brother please read the thread before posting.

See >>513547455

>>513544501 (OP)

I dont know bro. I know a swamp thats gotten bigger in recent years. Pretty wierd since its supposed to get smaller.

Picrel. A Polish Toolbox.

>>513544501 (OP)
Its literally been in the 80s all of August in south Georgia. It's usually triple digits

>>513551137
>your stupid
>your
Sorry to tell you, but you're stupid.

>>513547600
Yes
There are many such cases of official temperature stations being located in brick or asphalt courtyards, amplifying the heat leading to higher readings

>>513544501 (OP)
Witness my great strategy

>>513552282
Yeah you didn't debunk shit though. See >>513552220 sweaty

>>513544501 (OP)
>The earth has warmed 2x faster than we expected.
Here's a game you can play -
Google "has warmed twice as fast as the rest of the world"
You'll find articles claiming damn near every country or region has warmed twice as fast as the rest of the world.
This was called out ten years ago when somebody posted a spoof article headlined "The World Has Warmed Twice As Fast As the World"
Seems rather than be embarrassed about their chicanery, climatetards are doubling down claiming it's actually true

>>513544943
Most of that data is generated. The NOAA wasn’t recording satellite readings in 1900.

>>513544501 (OP)
bait thread

>>513552409
Ah okay I see you can only see colors but don't have the brain capacity to interpret the data. I am mother fucking sweaty because I'm white and it's getting hotter up in this bitch. Browns would not understand

>>513547757
I refuse to believe that cherry tree blossom data has been collected since 812, much less that it survived this long.

>>513552732
>im white
Why are you lying on 4chan?

>>513552485
Exactly this >>513552698

>>513552485
Well the Arctic has warmed 4x faster then the rest of the world so not every country...

>>513552732
>i'm white
Lol sure you are, Sukdeep.

>>513552765
Variance went down. Look at how the amount of high recordings goes down but the amount of low recordings doesn’t increase.

Better recording techniques is responsible for the lowering of the mean. Retards interpret that as proof of climate change.

>>513552395

What do you mean? Is it wrong to put a thermometer monitoring the weather on places like picrel?

>>513544501 (OP)
POLE SHIFT
It happens, used to be regularly on the earth but something stopped it for a while.

>>513552779
All the best climate scientists are Nordic. Cry harder

>>513547409
>I live further north than Toronto
>tf
This isn't even amusing anymore, just sad.

>>513553010

Good. I hope it ships you right into the north pole.

>>513552918
Im mormon so closer culturally to mohammedeen than indians but I am very white

>>513553055
If that’s true why haven’t they produced a predictive model yet?

>>513553181
>mormon
Lmao explains why you’re so stupid to fall for the climate change grift.

>>513553301
I wish mormons believed in climate change more. We are too worried about gay people getting married to worry about climate change even the the great salt lake is shrinking and now we have to deal with toxic dust storms

>>513553088
Yea I live further north than the average leaf

>>513544501 (OP)
That sucks for browns, but here it's still too cold.

>>513553426
>i wish Mormons believed in this secular hoax more
This is why people laugh at Mormons.

>>513551919
>unprecedented

>>513553513
I mean we already believe that Jesus lives on a planet named kolob. I think it would be good for us to start living in reality for a change

>>513553683
>climate change is reality
Yet we still have the same coastline we always had.

>>513547455
>but my graph!
>accidentally shows visibly slower increase
kek

>>513552765
Data's probably from Japan. They've had a tradition of viewing the cherry blossoms at the start of spring since time immemorial so it wouldn't surprise me if they did have records of it going back to the 9th century AD.

>>513553591
Let's play a game where we dont only use graphs that are more than 20nyears old and end more than 100 ybp

I specifically said the rate of change is unprecedented. Prove me wrong

>>513554504
hockey stick is debunked
you are wrong

>>513544501 (OP)
Fake and gay
>we just didn't see hot temperatures because la nina and the sun isn't hot enough
Fake and gay

>>513555592
Computer models systemically underestimate warming due to climate change that we observe, which model did you take that figure from anon??

>go outside
>constant heat waves
>biggest wildfires in history
>flooding everywhere
>tornado and hurricane season starting earlier and lasting longer
>fossil fuel industry paid shills expect me to not believe my eyes and ears

>>513554504
Oh wow! Updated manipulated data! Better give those climate scientist more money and lock ourselves up in pods and eat bugs! Kill yourself.

>>513550230
>OU BELIEVE THE NORMIE SCIENCE THAT RAIN COMES FROM THE OCEAN RETARDED NORMIE KEK FAGGOT
Metereology is a real science, albeit weak is still a science, now climate science on the other hand, is not science.
glad I could help.
real climatology not only fight against the climate change hoax but are shone by globohomo for doing so. many man of science live in poverty because of it, is not even something exclusive to climatology.
after all the clowns in charge don't want to know about the true.
Ohh, so you're a mormon, and you claim not to be a glowie nigger after removing the memeflag?
Following abrahamic mutt-maxing sub-cult is a sign that you're not white but instead share a passion for discuss fairy tales with your fellow cultist from other abrahamic sects.
Not surprising, a literal golem taking the golem koolaid, parcel, kek!
No, you're a retarded or a shill, either way, not impressive.

>>513544501 (OP)
>LOOK AT THIS PROBLEM FOR WHICH WE ARE NOT PRESENTING A SOLUTION
>NO WE WILL NOT PRESENT A VIABLE SOLUTION, JUST EDUCATED SUGGESTIONS BASED ON OUR OWN LIMITED STUDY
>YES, WE ARE FUNDED BY PRIVATE INTERESTS THAT WE WILL NOT DISCLOSE
Idgaf what problem we are facing, I only want solutions. Anything short of solutions is just woman-tier babble meant to attempt to grasp at my emotional strings and play them like a fiddle. AKA: Fuck you, kike, solve the issue or shut the fuck up.

>>513552954
If the enviroment stays the same and you have measured what the local surplus in temperature is due to the urban island heating effect, then it wouldn't be wrong to use the meter but you have to conciously subtract the island heating effect to get to the "normal" temperature reading as if the meter was stationed on a grass field.

>>513557808
My brother in christ, you think the rain forest is fine. You already self reported that you are a retard. The biotic pump theory has been prove. In the Amazon
The forests make the rain. If you cut the forests the rain stops. Its going to turn into dry forests and cerrado

>>513558359
But the earths energy imbalance is 0.8 w/m2. That was measured from space how can that be explained by urban heat islands?

>>513558964
The Swedeanon was asking if it was wrong to install a metering unit in a city/town rather then a random field outside a city/town. It shouldn't be if you subtract the additional heating that an urban setting creates (pavement, brick, concrete etc).

Then any additional heating would be the energy imbalance that you've mentioned and that indeed could be the global warming trend being measured IRL.

>>513544943
Zoom out faggot.
We have a cycle that is about 400-500 years.

>>513544501 (OP)
>global waming
fake

>>513546555
There's lots of retarded takes everywhere.
For instance.
We are on a carbon life form planet. All life forms here are carbon life forms.
Literally CO2 is plant food.
"Carbon emitter" is FAKE SCIENCE , and
reduction of carbon is a death cult pushed by globohomo and fake scientists like WEF.