>Quote: "Propaganda resources controlled by the Kremlin are spreading claims that Russian hackers broke into the database of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and obtained information about ‘1.7 million Ukrainian military personnel killed and missing in action’ during Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

>In reality, this is completely absurd fake news, as Ukraine has never had a regular army of 1.7 million people since its independence. As of January 2025, according to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the Ukrainian forces numbered 880,000 people.

>>513609897 (OP)
but the number actively in the army isn't an argument, we can see how they are recruiting, dragging people off the streets, but also hear soldiers complain about never getting any rotations. Something must be fishy and their own "official" numbers sure don't match reality.
So somehow Ukraine had over 700k in 2022, outnumbered the russians for some time, recruits like 30-40k per month, but doesn't grow its army and doesn't rotate the front line soldiers. How come?

>>513609897 (OP)
>Ukraine has never had a regular army of 1.7 million people
What happened to these?
10 Jul 2022, btw

>>513610143
do you not know the difference between one million and 1.7 million?

>>513609897 (OP)
1.7kk overall sounds like a reasonable number however 700k in 2025 alone dose not...

>>513609897 (OP)
1,7 mil dead ukranians is obviously BS, but so is the 1mil dead russians trope.

>>513609897 (OP)
Debunked your anus

>>513610143
it belongs in the memory hole

>>513610678
What if it's because of Kursk

>>513609897 (OP)
It’s true and it means 25 million ruzzian orcs are dead too. 14:1 never forgetti slava urine nafo wins

>>513610439
I don't know please go ahead

>>513610439
> Confirmed 1 million army in july 2022
> Since then, forced mobilization has begun throughout all the Ukraine
> Tens of thousands of videos of meatcatchers kidnapping clueless hohols
> In 2025 Zelekike said it's only 45,100 dead ukrainians
Something doesn't feel quite right.

>>513610143
theyre resting

>>513609897 (OP)
>russia has lost 1.9mio soldiers so far, this is conservative estimate
>ukraine cant have lost 1.7mio soldiers. This is a made up number, since the official death toll was announced in 2022 to be 50.000

>>513610678
I'm 95% sure these are cumulative numbers.

>>513610684
>1,7 mil dead
dead, wounded, mia is 1.7mil supposedly.
ww2 kia/wia ratio 1:3.5 so ~500k dead?

>Can't equip more than 1 million at a time
>therefore 1.7 million weren't chucked into the void
The fuck kind of argument is this lmao

>>513610105
Even in the official data says 6 mil ukranians have fled into Europe alone. Ukraine can have recruitment issues without million high losses simply because the men arent dead, but they are in Germany and Canada.

>>513610806
damn, I should open a stone lasercutting business in eastern europe.

>>513610870
Eh, 500k is not unplausible, but still seems exaggrated. I thibk 200-300k dead is the realistic number.

>>513610143
>What happened to these?
They dead.

>>513610439
The million was from when the war started. They've drafted well over a million since then, plus those who joined voluntarily. There are about two million "missing" Ukrainian men.

>>513610909
>Even in the official data says 6 mil ukranians have fled into Europe alone
I don't know about this figure but the vast majority of the those are women, because males are banned from leaving the country and are shot at the border by Polish and Romanian border guards.
Also, the population of Ukraine without the Russian-occupied territories was 35 million, so that means they should have at least 12 million men of the 25-60 conscription age.

>>513610870
> ww2 kia/wia ratio 1:3.5 so ~500k dead?
WW2 didn't had FABs casually dropping on your block every hour.

>>513610806
Are they going to be ok?

>>513610870
I hate female fights it’s always just hair pulling

>>513610678
It includes "Missing" which could be accounted for with the high desertion rate as well as just general corruption. On paper 'Division A' has 10,000 men, payroll is therefore sending funds for those 10,000, in reality 'Division A' has 1,000 men and the payroll for 9,000 men ends up in the void, until it is discovered and recorded as 9,000 missing.

>>513609897 (OP)
I knew it was propaganda as soon as I saw it. The Russians target low IQ people in the West.

>>513611141
>and are shot at the border by Polish and Romanian border guards
Nah not really, there's youtube channel with topic of getting out of Ukraine and no one really mentioned shooting or mines. They will try to get you and beat you up tho.

>>513610909
not exactly what i meant. Obviously a lot of people are fleeing and won't be available for recruitment. But since 2022, the number of recruits that Ukraine and Russia mustered were quite similar, yet Ukraine's army remained the same size and Russia's grew enormously. Just looks like a sign like things are going horribly wrong on the side of Ukraine, unless they count russian-speaking ukrainians (so almost everybody) as russian casualties somehow

>>513609897 (OP)
14:1

>>513611261
>high desertion rate
This is only according to Ukraine Defense Ministry.
Desertion rate of hundreds of thousands or millions isn't possible. Even if all the troops were demoralized or pro-russian, the officer would just execute one dererter and everyone would get the message.
The most common assumption is the government classifies the vast majority of Ukrainian army dead as deserters or missing in order to
a- Avoid paying compensation to families
b- Gloat on the national stage about low casualties

>>513611310
The fact remains it's both illegal and very dangerous for a male to try to escape Ukraine.

>>513611141
no, they're not. You can still leave under certain conditions, like being underage, having 3 children, etc, in the beginning you could just bribe your way out or you just try to flee undetected. They don't shoot if they catch you, they just van you straight to the front.
Seeing the refugees here, it's wouldn't say that it's mostly women, maybe it's a 60/40 split, but seems quite balanced

>>513609897 (OP)
>>In reality, this is completely absurd fake news, as Ukraine has never had a regular army of 1.7 million people since its independence. As of January 2025, according to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the Ukrainian forces numbered 880,000 people.

Weird, sounds like cope and makes you unbelievable.
You sont need an army of 1.7 mio to have 1.7 mio dead. By this deflection you basically confirmed it

>>513609897 (OP)
>this is completely absurd
>it was 1.69 million
>pootin btfo
>suck it chuds

>>513609897 (OP)
>In reality, this is completely absurd fake news, as Ukraine has never had a regular army of 1.7 million people
Seriously? This is what they're running with?
Army guys die. Then you get more guys. This means there are more guys involved in the army than the initial official headcount of the army.

>>513611444
The vast majority of Ukrainians in the EU are women, children, and geriatrics. You can't refute this.

>>513610439
About 0.7?

>>513611540
i can just tell you what i see. And i see lots of ukrainian men across just about every age group, though most commonly are the young adolescents and family fathers

>>513611411
True true but shootings on the border are not regular thing but probably do happen.
Youtube channel if anyone is interested, it's in russian/ukrainian but you can use translate function in youtube.
Not only interesting from war perspective but also how to survive in wilderness.
https://www.youtube.com/@eurocustom

>>513611736
So most males are either shot or more likely sent back to the meat grinder.

>>513610870
>wounded
They wasn't saying anything about wounded. It's 1.7kk dead or missing. Do your math again now.

>>513611381
I mentioned desertion as a partial explaination, I think the main reason for the "missing" is corruption and death. Even when Ukrainians are forcibly conscripted, if they have money they can bribe their way to freedom and are listed as AWOL or missing.

I however think the main reason for the missing is simply they never existed anywhere other than on paper. When Ukraine begs for money they use the vast amount of salaries they need to pay in order to justify the amounts they are begging for, they've inflated those numbers to rediculous levels and when those paper units aren't available to be deployed (because they don't exist) they become "missing".

>>513611845
1.7kk is unreasonable in my opinion but who knows. idk why they don't publish their losses, that would make them look better and more transparent than Z team and would probably give them extra boost to gibts from the west.

>>513610439
So if 300k dies and you keep replenishing to a to a million, you'll never reach 1.7 million casualties because the army size is capped at 1 million?

>my 14:1 posting pissed off the KGB so much that they launched a propaganda campaign to counter me

kino...

>>513609897 (OP)
calculations based on number of performed amputations compared to afghanistan + iraq estimate >1.3 million ukrainian casualties (kia + wounded)

>>513609897 (OP)
1.7 million dead pigs
1.7 million dead hohols
1.7 million dead taras
1.7 million dead UPA
1.7 million dead banderites
1.7 million dead salo
1.7 million dead
1.7 million +1
1.7 million +2
1.7 million +3
1.7 million +4
1.7 million +5
1.7 million +6
1.7 million +7
1.7 million +8
1.7 million +you
1.7 million
dead

>>513610909
See >>513610143
Can a nation lie its way to victory on dreams and deceit alone? Because all that seems to have earned Ukraine is a permanent ~16% loss in land and major infrastructure, and permanent psychological terror for its citizens (esp. male ones).

Russia hasn't been affected in any way that really matters to Russians, except financially, and that's because they were already poor. The citizenry even make sport of it, knowing the true ethno-social nature of this spat. Compare that to Ukraine. Few men who aren't visibly "rotated out" or "used" can safely travel in daylight. 1/3 of the women have fled the country not because of any fear of bombs or bullets, but because they smelled an opportunity to get their pussy reamed out in a richer country. And the children learn from these respective evils-- trust none, stay loyal to none. The ruination of Ukraine has not just BEEN generational, but will CONTINUE to be generational.

>>513610870
This is not Rostov. I hate faggots with watermarks

>>513609897 (OP)
uh oh, I've been spreading this all over the internet.
oh well, how about some of them beans.

>>513609897 (OP)
Vat resources think it's fake.

But hackers claim that they have id + photo of dead.
Can't they just post them?

>>513612721
looks like UK, street texts in english and its usual scane for London night life

>>513611343
>14:1
This, but there's a nuance

>>513609897 (OP)
>ukrainska pravda
Drugs are bad, mkay?

>>513612831
>38 mln in 2025
fake

unles they count 20mln in Russia and EU as Ukrainian population

Still more believable than the holocaust

>>513612442
>number of performed amputations
Who's doing the counting? Tell me it's from Ukrainian ministry.

>>513612873
If I remember correctly, hohols haven't had a census since thier independence in 1992
So their population estimates are pure speculation.

>>513609897 (OP)
>THERE IS NO DEAD UKRAINESE IN THIS WAR, IN FACT EVERY UKRAINESE THAT PASSED AWAY BEFORE THE WAR CAME BACK TO LIFE, SO THAT MEANS WE HAVE NEGATIVE NUMBER ON DEATHS!
ok ukraine internet force

>>513609897 (OP)
>Propaganda resources controlled by the Kremlin are spreading claims that Russian hackers broke into the database of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and obtained information about ‘1.7 million Ukrainian military personnel killed and missing in action’ during Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
Sounds liek Russia is projecting hard again]


Russian losses last 24 hours and totals
21.08.2025
Tanks — 11120 (+1)
Armored fighting vehicle — 23157 (+5)
Artillery systems — 31789 (+41)
MLRS — 1471 (+1)
Anti-aircraft warfare — 1209 (+1)
Planes — 422
Helicopters — 340
UAV — 52469 (+315)
Cruise missiles — 3565
Ships (boats) — 28
Submarines — 1
Cars and cisterns — 59316 (+114)
Special equipment — 3944 (+1)
Military personnel — aprx. 1073530 people (+830)

>>513609897 (OP)
>Our hacked files?
>All lies!
When a group of hackers release these kind of files is because they already used it and is not irrelevant information for Russia.
1.7M between missing, killed, hurt and deserters, for absolutely no reason because nobody with a working brain though it was possible for them to win.

>>513610678
Is not only the killed ones, the longer it goes the more will just run away because the front is lost, so why would you fucking stand in after being kidnapped and sent to die for nothing?

>>513612873
>unles they count 20mln in Russia and EU as Ukrainian population
For the purposes of draft: zelensky does.

>>513613266
KEK, fuck you for making me see Vučić Peder though.

>>513609897 (OP)
Oy vey

>>513610143

kek in the report the hohols lost like 500k a year, why do these journalists suck so much
even a child can count

Just release list if it true.

>>513611343
>14:1
>but still losing ground
Explain.

>>513609897 (OP)
lol. The lack of a decent deboonking suggests this may be close to the truth.

I wonder what /k/ has to say about this

>>513616428
They still think Ukraine is winning.

>>513616621
Yeah they seem to always, purely through their own intelligent critical analysis, arrive at whatever the median position of the US or EU government is, depending on where they are from. Kind of fun to watch. Sort of the bizarro /pol/—here people mostly believe whatever is the opposite of what their government says.

They are leaving out the fact that 1.7 million includes dissertions. Russia clearly said this in news reports. It could be as high as 600,000

>>513609897 (OP)

>>513609897 (OP)
>it can't possibly be
>Ukraine never had 1.7 million soldiers...
>...at once

>>513610870
sounds possible as it would mean about one third of how many dies in ukraine without war in a day (400 vs 1400)

Shitskins in here will believe ~2700 Ukrainians are dying every single day in 2025

>>513609897 (OP)
Youre forgetting about the 6M jews that were killed in the camps.

>>513617603
cope tranny kike

>>513617778
I denounce the talmud, the torah and the quran. Now you

>>513612745
No, they can't, because it's literally like 10 images and they blurred it so you can't counterreference what they are.

Russians have lying as a military strategy.

>>513617603
Yes they unironically believe Ukraine lost more men in 3 years than both Iran and Iraq lost in 8 years of actual trench warfare, actual documented human wave attacks, and even chemical munitions. All of that and the death toll between both armies, and civilians as well, was 400,000-800,000

Russians want you to believe the Ukraine war costs more men to Ukraine than the entirety of the Vietnam War, both sides (950,000+ over a period of 20 YEARS)

Their only rationale behind this is news of a data leak, not the actual data leak, which they won't post of course, or expand any kind of information on

>>513617821
>gorecope like clockwork
nafo trash is it always the same guy? 1.7 milly stay mad

>>513618270
>can't denounce kike and muzzie holy books
Interesting

>>513618244
>their only rationale

The body exchange where Ukraine can’t even come up with a hundred dead but Russia has thousands, the 8+ hours of cemetery footage, the hundreds of videos of TCC agents abducting people, and the amputee figures. The only thing this leak did was confirm what everyone already suspected.

Meanwhile the source for Russia taking a million+ losses is the Ukrainian MOD. And the only source for the 14:1 shit is a random trump remark.

>>513618244
well thats what you believe for russia 1 milly casualties. now that you outed yourselves as liars by your own hand, what more can i add to the hoholkike pilpul? oy vey

>>513618339
>its the same guy
ur on here 24/7 loser. youre all the same desert demon shit kike golems that need pest control.

>>513609897 (OP)
There are no dead Ukrainians, there is no shortage of weapons, there is no retreating, Ukraine is winning. Don't like it? You're a Russnigger!

>>513609897 (OP)
Nobody is claiming 1.7m KIA
They are claiming 1.7m total casualties and KIA about 400k

>>513613267
>Look at all these Russian lost!

I don't get it

even if they lost this much stuff. Just going to the ground they still are pushing Ukraine's shit in

So what good is this argument?

>>513618339
Denounce Harry Potter, LoTR and the Avengers

>>513618603
>he actually can't do it

>>513619080
Right after you denounce talmud, torah and quran

>>513609897 (OP)
>this is completely absurd fake news, as Ukraine has never had a regular army of 1.7 million people since its independence
This is total jewish pilpul. It's unfortunate that many people will fall for it yet again

>>513618844
Propaganda is basically reporting one half of a football match.
>"Our team scored 3 goals against the inferior visiting team"
They know that people have limited time, access and interest for the other sides story, so the fact they scored 5 goals will mostly go unnoticed.

>>513610143
its just more lies and bs from "ukraine"

>>513609897 (OP)
In the actual data over 1 million of the 1.7 million are classified as missing. I wouldn’t be surprised if in the database people who served on conscription in the past, were called up for a draft but never appeared/were found are also classified as missing.

If they actually want to “debunk” it they need to start looking through names and social media of the people listed, but they won’t because all journalists are lazy.

>>513619201
>hello fellow 4channers denounce le desert demons that makes me legit and not vpn nafo troon
i dont watch your gorecope stay mad russia is winning the ENTIRE WEST cant do nothing its been like 3 years and to the last hohol 1.7 million damn thats a lot of pork oink oink everyday youre losing more

>>513619774
This nigger is ESLmaxxing now

>>513609897 (OP)
should be verifiable. I thought i saw emails, phone #'s, and whatever their equivalent of social security numbers are in the data

>>513609897 (OP)
>ukrainska pravda
Fuck off and kill yourself

>>513618244
it makes sense when you understand it's not a war but a systemic genocide of goyim by the ukranny's jewish government

>>513611381
>Desertion rate of hundreds of thousands or millions isn't possible.
So you think the Ukrainians are lying about their own desertion rates? That they are threatening repercussions against the families of deserters for nothing?
https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-desertion-russia-war-1993760
>Over 100,000 soldiers have been charged for desertion since February 2022, The Associated Press reported late last month, citing Ukraine's prosecutor general's office.

>>513613134
>1992
2001 was their one and only census. Nobody really knows how many people are in Ukraine, it's all just educated guesswork. Crazy to think about.

>>513619872
you lost tranny. 600 piggies got roasted today in that drone factory probably more to come

>>513616797
funny of you to say "intelligent critical analysis"
they cant help themselves to end their "analysis" with israel/ukraine always winning
their posts actually read like as if its been written by a language model, anybody with a take that meets in the middle out of gracefulness to not be a fucking liar gets either shut down or swarmed with kroons seething how retarded they are for not eating the semen infused turd cake with them
atleast shills here sometimes have the decency to not reply
every normie transcending into a newfag tells me about how they picked up something from /k/ike then i have to qrd on how they actually dont know a fucking thing of what theyre about

>>513609897 (OP)
if only it were that few

>>513618244
>Their only rationale behind this is news of a data leak
Well that and the depopulated villages, the ever expanding military graveyards, the many failed mass offensives, losing every single battle since October 2022, the fact that they have to press-gang people at all, the wildly unbalanced body exchange ratios, the fact that Ukraine has no more PoWs to exchange, the desertion rate, the fact that Russians out number and out gun them, have air superiority, is a country several times Ukraine's size with its own military industrial base...

>Russian hackers
>Just reverse everything that's real and say its Ukraine

How embarrassing

>>513610143
Funny when that got announced ziggers were quick to say its fake because there's no way they had anything near 1 million

>>513620534
I was being facetious about 'intelligent critical analysis'. A good heuristic is that if some one's opinions align perfectly with some major actor or another, they are probably mindraped by propaganda I don't think they are often bad actors (like you see here) I think they are mostly Fox News 40 yo boomers. They see the world as through a talking point memo darkly.

>>513619872
>ukranny is afraid of denouncing Harry Potter
My sides

>>513609897 (OP)
The whole 14:1 situation buck broke them, so they need to do some damage control and psyop to not seem completely ridiculous.

>>513620133
Some Ukrainians believe they're lying about desertion because rates and those dudes were actually killed in action. If they deserted that means the state (NATO budget) has to pay their family $400'000. That's a saving of $40 billion.

>>513620133
>charge an entire army’s worth of men with desertion
Just how stupid and childish are these people?

>>513618738
NAFO is the primary reason I want Ukraine to lose.

>>513610870
This isn't ww2. I watch half an hour report as minimum every day and this war is one sided slaughter and hammering for at least last 2 years. This is systematical one sided destruction of everything alive in front with ukrainians if lucky managing to whack some lone soldier or two, that was sent to take over the territory after everything is supposedly already dead there.

And as russian guy pointed to you, there were no fabs in 2nd ww and that shit is absolutely brutal, the bigger ones don't kill just eveything in a building, but fuck up and kill everything in a smaller street. Then you add in huge drone advantage, vastly outnumbered by arty and throw in tos flame throwers and long range missile systems, ...

>>513621131
They'd just mark them as MIA in that case. Why go through the rigamarole of threatening to close their bank accounts and criminal liability for their families? It's bad for morale.

>>513609897 (OP)
Haven't you retards been pushing 14:1?
We've seem your recruitment methods, just like we've seen Russia's artillery campaigns.
1.7 million seems a fucking shit ton more likely than 14:1.
To the last hoho.

Fun part is, Heavy Metal was predicting numbers like this from this conflict in the '80's

>>513620998
>14:1
Reminder that the only source of this claim is a compulsive liar who at the time he made the claim was angry at Russia because the last person he spoke to was anti-Russia.

>>513611293
Meanwhile bbc propaganda is telling you, russians will run oit of missiles in 2 days and they're stripping chips from washing machines and zelensky is telling you after 2-3 years of war there's 30.000 dead.

>>513620937
Why can't you denounce talmud, torah or quran? Any deflection from this question means you are a kike or muzzrat

>>513621627
>Jewish people would never go as low as threatening the families of the dead soldiers

>>513609897 (OP)
Checks anon even our unelected whore admitted in past and deleted video afterward

>>513621762
Obviously they're threatening their families. But why bother if you can just mark the dead as MIA? It's so much less hassle.
>Sorry Ivana Ivashenka, we don't know where your male relative is, we cannot confirm he is dead, therefore no payout for you.
Easy, done, plausibly deniable.

>>513621753
>hes still going
Im still here troon youre not fooling anyone with your distraction pilpul. Whats the rate for hoholposting and is it all my tax money?

>>513610439
three years?

>>513621942
a- Jews like being evil for the sake of it.
b- Public statements about punishing families of deserters are effective.
Also last I hear a year ago, the Ukrainian government claimed the number of deserters was 300,000.

>>513610815
>the official death toll was announced in 2022 to be 50.000
Didn't Zelensky said this year that it was 30k
Damn, Ukraine got necromancers, cool as shit bro

>>513621725
Russians ran out of missiles in may 2022, get ur facts right, bathnik

>>513609897 (OP)
Each side lost 50k at most. This war is pathetic.

>>513620655
Republic of China Presidents Tier List
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>>513622330
T. German citizen in 1916 because le map doesn't move fast

>>513618844
Republic of China Presidents Tier List
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>>513622529
You don't get such huge numbers with fucking drones. A drone can kill mostly just 1-2 people at a time, maybe 5.

WW1 saw offensives where fucking 10k soldiers attacked AT THE SAME TIME and in the same fucking location. This happened nowhere in Ukraine. I've never seen any mass assaults. It's always just 5-10 people. This war is a spectacle for the goyim.

>>513622736
Nigger Azov was counter-attacking Prokrovsk with 10k soldiers 1 day ago (and got rekt btw) shut the fuck up if you don't know shit

>>513613359
This. If I'm hohol the first chance I get I'm surrendering or deserting if they kidnap me to fight in Nuland's war.

>>513623104
AZOV never had more than 5,000 troops in all of ukraine combined you fucking retard

>>513623260
retard

>>513623260
They moved people from all around the front to gather 10k (yeah Ugraine is on the shitter) and counter-attacked, i mean, not necessarily they were all Azog, but they were attached to it.
I get that WW1 was way more intense, hence, it had way more casualties, but this is a 2000km front and 4 years of meatwave Ukranian counteroffensiyvs vs Russian elastic defense, you figure what happens in such conditions

>>513609897 (OP)
>>In reality, this is completely absurd fake news, as Ukraine has never had a regular army of 1.7 million people since its independence.

>Our soccer team only has 11 players on the field. It's absurd to claim that more than 11 players have ever played on our team.

>>513622736
No one does that anymore because they would all fucking die, it's not ww2.

>>513623682
Was just reading they formed a new AZOV this year. Not really though its just conscripts with AZOV guys behind the front lines shooting anyone who tries to retreat or surrender.

>>513623946
Play kike games get kike prizes, it took what, a year and a half for the Soviets to have the balls to say to Stalin's face that political gomissars were shit and that retreating is at times as important as advancing?
Yet "Ukraine" still doesn't learn

>>513621627
As far as I can understand MIA also get compensation, but I don't if it's the same $400'000.

Is there any real proofs of the claimed number?

>>513624341
No
They need a body and a death certificate. They werent even accepting russian issued death tolls with positive id.

>>513624620
Van snatchers, satellite images showing at least 1,900,000 military graves, Ursula von Der Leyen in 2023 (i think it was), American military man in 2022 saying they had 200.000 in the first 4 or 6 months of the war, the fact that they received at least 4 or 5 armies worth of equipment from NATO and never stop asking for new shit, being ruled by a literal kike, allowing men over 60 yrs old and women into the army, it all indicates it, we'll know for sure at some point, fog of war and such

>>513624988
Proof provided by the hackers I mean.

>>513625399
Ah dunno about that, but forgot the consistently 1000 Ukranians for 20 Russian corpses that i have seen across all this year

>>513624620
doubtful even Ukraine knows how many truly have died, and they'll never say it anytime soon even if they do

>>513625585
So the hack is bullshit.
>>513625637
So the hack is bullshit.

>>513625726
Maybe, maybe the Kremlin is going for the belief of westerners that Russian hackers can hack any election, anytime, anywhere, Russian hackers can even hack God according to Lugenpresse (wich everyone takes as holy word) at least
But well, let's see if Ukraine can take 8 more years of war, that'll tell for sure.

>>513609897 (OP)
Nothing new. Picrel.

>>513624628
Since March they have been accepting applications for compensation for those MIA.
https://www.coe.int/en/web/portal/-/register-of-damage-for-ukraine-now-accepting-claims-for-missing-immediate-family-members

>>513610806
Pining for the fjords, no doubt.

>>513625399
Anon, the article is fake and gay. The Powers That Be are releasing this article, and others like it, to "get ahead" of rhetoric spreading online. Normies see the bodycount and rightly say "this is absurd, what is it all for?" and the blood cabal, neither able nor particularly motivated to tell people the truth (ie. Euromaidan was a CIA-induced coup to put forward pressure on the Russian sphere of influence), HAS to lie.
>we're not sending billions in arms because of any ethno-social tensions, GOY
>it's because Rooshuh is EVIL and BAD and DOESN'T BELIEVE IN THE SCIENCE
>FEEL BAD
>BRACE FOR DRAFTS
>BE AFRAID
>also keep buying Chinese to prop up our Looney-Tunes runaway casino economy lol
It's lies. That's all. Lies to keep ahead.

>>513626133
Yes, but accepting applications =/= actual compensation
Do you remember all the hullaballoo around them not wanting to accept the 6,000 corpses the Russians had on ice? They delayed for ages and the reasons they provided were complete nonsense