How do you people still not understand biological evolution? - /pol/ (#513632292) [Archived: 62 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: nWXQLk5FUnited States
8/21/2025, 5:28:33 PM No.513632292
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Did you not go to school as a child? Did you not take biology or archaeology, or learn about natural history in any capacity whatsoever?

How are you so clueless about genetics and fossils, to the point where you think a Semitic deity MAGICALLY poofed people and everything else into existence just 6,000 years ago?

We know this did not happen, and we know by what processes life on Earth has changed over billions of years of time. And it DOES change over time, despite what your man-made book of primitive fairy-tale cringe may say.

>Natural selection
>Genetic drift
>Mutation
>Gene flow

Learn what these terms mean, and how they apply to population mechanics.

Educate yourself on how you and other life actually got here, instead of slurping man-made putrid religious bullshit and then teaching your kids that, dumbing them down as adults, just like you were by your own dipshit parents.

>https://youtu.be/hOfRN0KihOU?si=V1EtIV7cJ-_Rv0_B
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 5:44:28 PM No.513633417
>>513632292 (OP)
he one of those types
Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 5:46:59 PM No.513633588
>>513632292 (OP)
we do not evolve consciousness
the Bible is not made by a man
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 5:49:10 PM No.513633721
>>513632292 (OP)
how does the heart work
at the same time consciousness works
they both work together
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 5:50:56 PM No.513633822
>>513633721
another thing the human looks outside
but never seeing yourself
but other people see you
but at the same time
the mind seeing you
but the time of the mind
separate from the time of the man
Anonymous ID: TdNOiZPgUnited States
8/21/2025, 5:51:05 PM No.513633833
>>513633588
Oh? Who wrote it, then?
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 5:54:41 PM No.513634108
>>513633833
GOD revealed it
the Holy Spirit through man
man simply received it
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Anonymous ID: fEIn3LBhUnited States
8/21/2025, 5:54:43 PM No.513634112
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>>513632292 (OP)
Cool, then I'm glad we can both agree niggers are not human. Because only a subhuman nigger would think evolution stopped at the neck upwards. You aren't some sort of subhuman nigger now, are you?
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 5:55:42 PM No.513634198
>>513634108
the gematria the Bible code
like computer language
the Bible some advanced computer
there also sacred geometry
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 5:56:44 PM No.513634282
>>513634198
also the earth two wheels or something
and the planets those higher spheres
acting like a big circuit
Anonymous ID: cYJK+ZR+United States
8/21/2025, 5:57:49 PM No.513634370
>>513633721
WhAt Is cOnScIoUsNesS

the question what is consciousness does not = god existing
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 5:57:50 PM No.513634373
I believe in the four ages
the golden age
the silver age
the bronze age
the iron age
Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 5:58:28 PM No.513634427
>>513634370
I cannot say I am limited in perception
three darknesses something like that
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 5:59:34 PM No.513634507
>>513634370
I am limited to density a frequency
but so is everything
Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:00:16 PM No.513634568
>>513634427
the three darknesses
the womb
the heart
the mind
Anonymous ID: xNkWaqLXNetherlands
8/21/2025, 6:02:14 PM No.513634708
>>513632292 (OP)
It's just a theory.
Life doesn't change by knowing it.
Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:02:22 PM No.513634720
there Hermetic principles axioms
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Anonymous ID: TdNOiZPgUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:04:02 PM No.513634833
>>513634108
Ok, Zeus revealed this to me and wanted me to reveal it to you:
>ur a faggot
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:05:31 PM No.513634937
>>513634720
gender
rhythm
vibration
correspondence
cause and effect
polarity
mentalism
Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:06:07 PM No.513634994
>>513634833
you try to explain stuff to people
and they do not want to be practical
I cannot make someone learn
Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:07:07 PM No.513635057
>>513634833
honestly the Greek stuff weird
I believe in mythology but not gods
those simply people
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Anonymous ID: nrGdbJ4MUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:07:52 PM No.513635108
>>513632292 (OP)
Scientific young earth creationists do not deny fossils, nor do they deny evolution. They only deny 900 gorrillion years and sludge-to-human evolution.

When you deliberately pick the worst examples of young earth creationism, that is a form of strawmanning. If you were actually earnest about the objective truth, then you would make a habit of picking the smartest individuals on the side you are debating against.
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:08:22 PM No.513635133
>>513635057
there weird stuff that people do not understand
like a laughing stone do not ever look at that
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Anonymous ID: plm7GduqCanada
8/21/2025, 6:09:13 PM No.513635192
>>513632292 (OP)
Entropy. There, evolution theory has been disproven by one thermodynamic law
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:10:03 PM No.513635243
>>513635133
the city of brass
scary place
Solomon peace be upon him built that
even he made mistakes
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Anonymous ID: TdNOiZPgUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:10:39 PM No.513635286
>>513635057
I also don't believe in gods.
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:11:07 PM No.513635318
>>513635243
things he did that people should not do
the flying carpet is awesome but
do not open sealed jars
Anonymous ID: TdNOiZPgUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:11:25 PM No.513635335
>>513635192
Can you explain?
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:11:50 PM No.513635360
>>513635286
the ancient egyptian year exaggerated
three months could be 1 year
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:12:35 PM No.513635416
>>513635360
I am not saying people back then did not live a long time, but some of the years exaggerated
Anonymous ID: jKjIjcIGUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:13:51 PM No.513635486
>>513632292 (OP)
I believe in devolution. I believe that we're like a Xerox of a Xerox. How do believe the megolithic structures were built when even with our modern machinery couldn't build what was once built?
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Anonymous ID: TdNOiZPgUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:13:58 PM No.513635501
>>513635360
Do you know how to read?
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:14:05 PM No.513635508
there dog man, basically half man dog; the Greeks have accounts of them
Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:14:52 PM No.513635553
>>513635501
I know how to read and write
I type in certain kinds of meter
I am fond of meter
Anonymous ID: TdNOiZPgUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:14:56 PM No.513635554
>>513635486
>"Aw Dad, we're all Devo!"
Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:15:32 PM No.513635599
>>513635501
think my writing crazy
ancient Latin looks so crazy
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:16:58 PM No.513635695
>>513635599
hic ratio (modern Latin)
HICRATIO\ HIC . RATIO (ancient Latin)
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Anonymous ID: v7hs2qFaUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:17:23 PM No.513635716
>>513632292 (OP)
Evolution
Why aren't apes still turning into humans or fish crawling out of the ocean and growing legs and lungs.
Only retarded people believe in science.
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:18:00 PM No.513635769
>>513635695
some ancient Latin
everything capital letters
the U is also a V
Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:19:01 PM No.513635832
>>513635716
1001 nights talks about the fish people
basically a society of fish people under the sea
they have a sultan and cities
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:20:09 PM No.513635919
>>513635832
Another thing it talked about, ghoul; basically this large creature that lives there in the mountains.
Anonymous ID: TdNOiZPgUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:20:53 PM No.513635961
>>513635716
If only there was some kind of repository of human knowledge that you could access digitally through a computer, even a small one like a smartphone. Then you could look up the answers to questions like that.
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Anonymous ID: jHkjw4DvUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:21:19 PM No.513635987
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>>513635716
>Why aren't apes still turning into humans or fish crawling out of the ocean and growing legs and lungs.

>t.
Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:21:24 PM No.513635992
>>513632292 (OP)
The 1800s an example of, people finding old technology.
Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:22:13 PM No.513636062
>>513635961
Charles Babbage invented a proto computer in 1834
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:22:48 PM No.513636114
>>513636062
Pascal did some crazy stuff
Anonymous ID: v7hs2qFaUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:24:21 PM No.513636226
>>513635961
Why because you don't know the answer genius.
Stop being a confrontational faggot liberal.
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:25:07 PM No.513636290
also pneumatics during ancient times, and the middle ages
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:26:09 PM No.513636368
>>513636290
the windmills 500–900 AD
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Anonymous ID: HJ+NgJbYUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:27:12 PM No.513636446
>>513632292 (OP)
>did you not go to school as a child
yes I did
>did I go to school as an adult?
yes you did
>Am I... uh.. a self righteous faggot with nothing but overly complex ideas that don't benefit anyone? like everyone that went to college?
yes you are. knew it the minute you said fossils. those are fake. get sciencepilled you kike fleshlight.
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:27:56 PM No.513636504
>>513636368
In 1515, Cardinal Matthäus Lang wrote a description of the Reisszug, a funicular railway at the Hohensalzburg Fortress in Austria.

the railroad before US
Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:29:10 PM No.513636578
ancient viaducts, and water wheels
Anonymous ID: TdNOiZPgUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:29:16 PM No.513636584
>>513636226
https://www.discovermagazine.com/if-humans-evolved-from-apes-why-do-apes-still-exist-43351
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:29:48 PM No.513636624
a bunch of underground tunnels dug before US
Anonymous ID: TTz2w8veUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:30:09 PM No.513636649
>>513635335
Sounds like you need to educate yourself on entropy. Did you not go to school or something? Surely such a foundational force in the universe couldn't confound a genius, such as your faggotass self, right? You're not a fucking retard, are you?
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:30:28 PM No.513636669
the map that shows California island
Anonymous ID: SBMrCdexUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:31:04 PM No.513636714
>>513636446
go kiss nigger feet
Anonymous ID: nVbKN0UhUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:31:36 PM No.513636761
>>513632292 (OP)
maybe your mom was a monkey, but mine wasn't
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Anonymous ID: X1xdSWCgUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:32:18 PM No.513636820
>>513636649
Can you explain your claim without being a screeching, butthurt faggot?
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:32:50 PM No.513636849
The Fra Mauro map, shows some weird stuff with Africa; like the south of it an island, and there used to be a river across Africa; west to east.
Anonymous ID: X1xdSWCgUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:32:56 PM No.513636857
>>513636761
>>513636584
Anonymous ID: wwZjHCI+Canada
8/21/2025, 6:32:58 PM No.513636862
>>513632292 (OP)
There is a popular Christian heresy that states that Darwin was wrong. We need an inquisition.
Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:34:58 PM No.513636988
napoleon that crazy guy, had aerostatic balloons; what do you do with that? Survey land, move people around, and drop things.
Anonymous ID: TTz2w8veUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:35:25 PM No.513637016
>>513636820
>what are post IDs
Kill yourself. OP is here to be a faggy liberal, not debate. He gets out what he puts in.
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:37:11 PM No.513637137
>>513637016
it some type color code, maybe a policy; the s o y man from the s o y base
Anonymous ID: HJ+NgJbYUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:37:25 PM No.513637156
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>>513635108
depends, most fossils of large creatures are likely academic fabrications. what we can actually find are smaller creatures with shells and exo skeletons, stuff the it would make sense for the sediment to preserve. Bones however would be pretty unlikely. The reason we know SOME megfauna actually existed is because people have stumbled upon entire specimens frozen or otherwise deposited. Other things like dragons and giant human beings were either hunted to extinction or covered up. dragons were likely something closer to a huge monitor lizard which we have full modern skeletons of. like crocs and alligators they weren't TOO hard to kill. as a rule you should mistrust ALL fossils you can't find yourself though.
Anonymous ID: X1xdSWCgUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:37:28 PM No.513637164
>>513637016
And you're here to be a faggy christian, I guess.
Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:38:41 PM No.513637259
>>513632292 (OP)
I seen this same meme guy on my lunch break
Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:40:14 PM No.513637366
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3ARnEaEbhw&ab_channel=HankGreen
Hank Green knows about Moot
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:41:06 PM No.513637422
>>513637366
Joe Rogan not on the level of Hank Green
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Anonymous ID: kbPdVwSfBrazil
8/21/2025, 6:43:38 PM No.513637614
>>513632292 (OP)
Okay, but how does a monkey give birth to a human? I've seen humans giving birth to monkeys here, but the opposite doesn't happen. Things tend to fall into chaos, not into order just the same as things fall down, not up.
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:47:31 PM No.513637903
>>513637422
Joe Rogan might interview Hank Green, he knows things
Anonymous !niqjediPCAID: sOf1fsl6United States
8/21/2025, 6:49:03 PM No.513638035
>>513632292 (OP)
they are being retarded on purpose, man....

how have you not figured this out yet?
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Anonymous ID: dym1fYzkUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:49:13 PM No.513638044
Physical adaption is evident. Evolution is not. It’s just a story conjured up on the basis of aforementioned evident adaptations. There is actually no proof for the theory of evolution and in fact it contains several logical contradictions which suggest it can’t be true.
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Anonymous ID: HJ+NgJbYUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:51:14 PM No.513638206
>>513634112
technically speaking yes and no. Tyrone is both an example of what we used to be capable of physically but not mentally. During the early 16nth and 17nth century we imported them to work on land we otherwise couldn't work ourselves because it's a hot muggy disgusting environment like where they come from. Ideally humans should not live in a jungle. The people that are from better places are smarter and at one time, they had physical prowess and unbelievable health resilience to match our negroid cousins, the problem ironically came with writing. rulling class did not guard it well enough and lost command of it, and later it sort of became common place for a pleb to learn how to read. but before about 1810 or so majority of working people were illiterate. You have everyone going to elementary school to thank for our current state os pseudo intellectualism. They aren't sub human they just didn't have critical thinking going on until recently.
Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:53:05 PM No.513638335
>>513638035
it could be ssri
it could be chemicals
it could be fate
the psychologist some sort of foreign power against our organs
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Anonymous ID: HJ+NgJbYUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:56:11 PM No.513638574
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>>513638044
>adaptation
>devolution
we are unfortunately forced to pick between the two every day. but remember it's always a choice. We can't however, evolve. every time we try we get more retarded. pic very much related, this is me explaining to swedish people why I like Mexican food.
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Anonymous ID: X1xdSWCgUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:57:02 PM No.513638634
>>513637614
>>513636584
Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:57:29 PM No.513638658
>>513638574
the swede man doing chemical science against our organs
Anonymous ID: X1xdSWCgUnited States
8/21/2025, 6:58:23 PM No.513638723
>>513638335
In an age where all of human knowledge is available through your phone, any ignorance is willing.
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Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 7:00:03 PM No.513638852
>>513638574
they make fun of US
because they give US
the chemical s o y food
the unnatural
Anonymous ID: c/N3OZumUnited States
8/21/2025, 7:00:57 PM No.513638939
>>513638723
beware the golem technology
Anonymous ID: Mw111wHrGermany
8/21/2025, 7:04:16 PM No.513639157
>>513638044
I've dissected many human brains in my career and I have never seen any logics in there. Logical contradictions are an illusion. You are living in a media simulacrum. Your life is a lie.
Anonymous ID: 4TdUJLpvChile
8/21/2025, 7:05:53 PM No.513639278
>>513632292 (OP)
>Did you not go to school as a child?
jewish education
>We know this did not happen, and we know by what processes life on Earth has changed over billions of years of time
jewish funded scientism
>religious bullshit
also jewish
everything is jewish and you being overly emotional over who picks what poison to hold onto is just your cognitive dissonance acting up
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Anonymous ID: X1xdSWCgUnited States
8/21/2025, 7:10:05 PM No.513639594
>>513639278
Are these jews in the room with you right now?
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Anonymous ID: XK0UsyLXUnited States
8/21/2025, 7:20:41 PM No.513640368
>>513632292 (OP)
>Did you not go to school as a child? Did you not take biology or archaeology, or learn about natural history in any capacity whatsoever?

Why do believe the truth? Haven't you been told the lies by self-proclaimed authority figures and experts? Maybe you need to hear the lies one more time . . . yes, that must be it.
Anonymous ID: HJ+NgJbYUnited States
8/21/2025, 7:20:57 PM No.513640387
>>513639278
based pinoche
>>513639594
yes Im watching one get railed by a negro atm.
Anonymous ID: e4jm8x1pPhilippines
8/21/2025, 7:22:06 PM No.513640474
>>513632292 (OP)
You don't "know" any of that. You were told it by authority and you believe it. Now you get angry when other people don't want to hear you preach.
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Anonymous ID: tcX3P1LcUnited States
8/21/2025, 7:22:42 PM No.513640504
>>513632292 (OP)
The issue is you fucking heathens don't realize god and science are two synergistic forces that hold the key to explaining our world.
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Anonymous ID: kX7ilb0hCanada
8/21/2025, 7:23:23 PM No.513640557
Smart people have actual shit to do
Anonymous ID: m2s5s292United States
8/21/2025, 7:24:48 PM No.513640656
>>513634833
Christians BTFO
Anonymous ID: Bj6Vild0Italy
8/21/2025, 7:27:40 PM No.513640866
>>513632292 (OP)
Take your gay religion back to plebbit.
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Anonymous ID: X1xdSWCgUnited States
8/21/2025, 7:30:08 PM No.513641034
>>513640474
Hey there Mr Projector, when's the next Superman showing?
>>513640504
>Source: deep within my ass.
Anonymous ID: X1xdSWCgUnited States
8/21/2025, 7:30:42 PM No.513641084
>>513640866
You got nothing.
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Anonymous ID: nOw+xj6BUnited Kingdom
8/21/2025, 7:52:37 PM No.513642576
>>513641084
You trust Jews who tell you what happened a hundred billion years ago.

There really isn’t a comparison available to illustrate how stupid that is.
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Anonymous ID: X1xdSWCgUnited States
8/21/2025, 8:04:37 PM No.513643441
>>513642576
Yup, it's all jews. The world is flat and 6k years old and the moon landing is fake and space is fake and demons are real and atoms are fake and warts are caused by evil spirits and magic is real but the jews tricks us into thinking we like in a materialist universe.
Nevermind that science gives us testable, repeatable information. But that's just more jewish tricks, right?
Anonymous ID: jo6JBhiRGermany
8/21/2025, 8:13:31 PM No.513644048
>>513642576
You trust Jews who tell you what happened 6000 years ago.

There really isn’t a comparison available to illustrate how stupid that is.
Anonymous ID: vx/Y3usDNetherlands
8/21/2025, 8:19:46 PM No.513644480
>>513642576
Projection you literally listen to a jewish book written by jews meanwhile archeology has historically and still is mostly a white man profession
Anonymous ID: usCn6Ts3Russian Federation
8/21/2025, 8:23:48 PM No.513644801
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Why haven't churkas evolved? 90% of them look like this
Anonymous ID: RRDw5lBHAustria
8/21/2025, 8:36:21 PM No.513645650
>>513632292 (OP)
you contradict yourself with the few sentences you wrote
We dont talk about adaptation or anything like that, we talk about the origin of life, and evolution has no explanation for that.
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Anonymous ID: X1xdSWCgUnited States
8/21/2025, 8:43:50 PM No.513646208
>>513645650
Well yeah, evolution doesn't cover that. Evolution is concerned with how species change and adapt over time, not how life started.
As for how it started: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-definition-of-abiogenesis-Is-it-a-theory-If-so-why-is-it-unproven