>"There is no meeting planned," Lavrov said in an interview with NBC's "Meet the Press with Kristen Welker".

Putin is such a pussy. He can start all these stupid wars but is afraid to have a meeting with the man whose country he's bombing
Total faggot cowardice that fake right wingers see no wrong with

>>513882030
>Putin is such a pussy. He can start all these stupid wars but is afraid to have a meeting with the man whose country he's bombing

Why would he want to meet Zelensky exactly.

>>513882382
If he doesn't, then it's obvious he just wants to continue his stupid war at all costs

>>513882411
>If he doesn't, then it's obvious he just wants to continue his stupid war

Of course he wants to continue the war. He intends to win it.

>>513882478
Ah, so turns out that you Russniggers are actually not interested in peace
He won't win though

>>513882478
>Of course he wants to continue the war. He intends to win it.
Well duh. That's why it's irritating hearing Russia's non stop bullshit about how they're 'prepared for peace talks', 'we just need to make some arrangements to do them' blah blah blah

>>513882676
it's purely designed to trick low IQ MAGAs into thinking Putin is a peacemonger

>>513882655
>Ah, so turns out that you Russniggers are actually not interested in peace

The Russians intend to win the war and will win. Then there will be peace.Zelensky will be removed as part of that obviously.

>>513882676
>Well duh. That's why it's irritating hearing Russia's non stop bullshit about how they're 'prepared for peace talks'

they are prepared to repeat their demands in talks.

>>513882786
>it's purely designed to trick low IQ MAGAs into thinking Putin is a peacemonger

it doesnt matter what Americans think.

>>513882874
Repeating your demands to have the country regime changed is not 'peace negotiations'.
If Trump said to Iran 'okay, the government needs to stop down voluntarily or we're going to bomb Tehran' would you say 'ah yes, masterful peace negotiation from Orange Man'?

>>513883020
>Repeating your demands to have the country regime changed is not 'peace negotiations'.

Ukraine can take it or leave it.

>>513882824
Not happening you stinking BRICS commie
Russia is getting pushed back as we speak

>>513883095
TZD will continue then, Russnigger commie

>>513883020
>If Trump said to Iran 'okay, the government needs to stop down voluntarily or we're going to bomb Tehran' would you say 'ah yes, masterful peace negotiation from Orange Man'?

You seem to be under the impression Russia is negotiating. They aren't.

>>513882915
It isn't just Americans, and it matters because that's the propaganda war. Russia is adept at online shilling, that's why it has managed to convince a huge chunk of the right in America (and elsewhere) that they shouldn't be involved in this at all.
That belief creates actual pressure on politicians, especially when you have vatnik acolytes being put into the cabinet itself by Trump.

Saying that propaganda doesn't matter is flat out wrong, it matters and always has, it's also very very cheap these days with bots doing it for you.

It's the same as people who say advertising doesn't matter because they never watched an ad for shoes and immediately went out to buy some themselves, they are also wrong.

>>513883111
>Russia is getting pushed back as we speak

sure they are sweaty. a couple of bombed out villages got reoccupied by Ukraine I heard. The bombers will come and drop 3 ton bombs on them.

>>513883152
>TZD will continue then, Russnigger commie

the war will go on as long as it has to.

>>513883265
>It isn't just Americans, and it matters because that's the propaganda war

Most of the world has no interest in the war at all.

>>513883095
Of course, but it's not a peace negotiation.
>>513883187
No, I'm not under that impression at all. Russia has zero interest in peace negotiations. The Kremlin likes to lie as if they are interested in peace, only a massive retard would believe them.

Here is an example of Lavrov lying about this subject as per usual.
https://tass.com/politics/2006791

>>513883296
>>513883323
Putin will die and then you nigger commies will collapse

>>513883296
>>513883187
>>513883095
>>513882915
>>513882874
>>513882824
>>513882478
>>513882382

You have a very weird posting style to constantly quote the post in your replies.

>>513883414
>Of course, but it's not a peace negotiation.

Russia is not negotiating.

>>513883111
>Not happening you stinking BRICS commie
>commie
Your orange nigger nationalized 10% of Intel just days ago, faggot.

>>513883414
>No, I'm not under that impression at all. Russia has zero interest in peace negotiations.

of course they haven't. why would they. they are going to win.

Just give enough weapons to Ukraine to keep killing vatniks but not win the war. War should continue until Russia collapses. Peace isn’t best option for Europe.

>>513883566
Nope, they're losing
Cope and dilate more, tranny faggot

>>513882030
>Putin is such a pussy.
at least he holds elections

>>513883607
>Nope, they're losing

lol, no they arent. how could they be losing when they have so many more weapons and troops.

>>513883566
YEAR 4! GOING ON TO UEAR 5 OF SPECIAL MILITARY OPERATION!

>>513883691
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>513883714
>YEAR 4! GOING ON TO UEAR 5 OF SPECIAL MILITARY OPERATION!

it takes as long as it takes. there is no hurry.

>>513883416
NAFO really needs to start rationing the copium before it runs out.

>>513882030
Noodle arms typed this post.
Little fingers strong from all that video game playing.

>>513883769
In the meantime, Funeral company CEO’s and cremation businesses are about the only booming industry in their shithole economy. We’re all waiting for the soviet union to collapse all over again.

Whats funny is the media is pretending russia ever agreed to nato peacekeeping troops in ukraine.

>>513881928 (OP)
nooooooooooo

Jews should help the Russians win. The Ukraine means little to the US. But it means the world to the Russians. A new union of Russia, Belarus and Ukraine could have a different foreign policy from Russia, and it could be used to ethnically cleanse Arabs not in minecraft.

85% of Ukrainian Jews speak Russian, not Ukrainian.

I hate gayropeans so much it's unreal

We need to reconcile Russians and Ukrainians.

>>513881928 (OP)
>Deal with Russians
>Get Russian treachery

>>513884037
>putin copers on suicide watch

>>513883970
>In the meantime, Funeral company CEO’s and cremation businesses are about the only booming industry in their shithole economy.

Russia's economy is doing great compared to ours. What was it, 3% growth? The UK is barely scraping 0.1% which is probably just fiddling the numbers anyway.

>>513884113
Isn't the reason he gave for taking Crimea?

>>513882030
Only power and money matter. Ukraine has neither and has to beg Others. Without the Others Ukraine is a null pointer. She has no relevance in any negotiation. Only wealthy and powerful nations with weapons are in charge and should negotiate.

Europe wants to fight to the last hohol, the Ukrainian ruling elite is happy to provide hohols in exchange for money. They officially want ceasefire but it is just to regroup and rearm. No point in negotiating anything as long as the last hohol is alive and can be packed and sent to the front line.

>>513883972
>Whats funny is the media is pretending russia ever agreed to nato peacekeeping troops in ukraine.

In no way shape or form would they be peace keeping troops.

>>513884037
Israel has been supporting Russia since the beginning of this war just like Russia supported Israel against Iran

>>513884153
>muh GDP growth

LMAO, where did you hear that, shill? Russian news? Growth where? Do you even know what the fuck you’re talking about? Do you have any idea what lowering the international price cap for oil did to those stupid fucks? Gazprom is on a dive and it hasn’t gotten any better btw.

>>513884283
>LMAO, where did you hear that, shill? Russian news?

The IMF and World Bank.

>>513884283
All of BRICS is growing. The EU is not. Taking in millions of shitskins make GDP look real good, so does buying weapons.
But not really, faggot.

>>513884283
>Do you have any idea what lowering the international price cap for oil did to those stupid fucks?

there is no international price cap on oil. how would that even work in a free market?

i get the feeling you don't really understand much.

im shook. fr fr i deadass expect trump to bring the bros together and let them link up like old days

>>513884246
Well of course.
The NATO "peacekeeping" force in Lybia dropped 30,000 bombs

>>513884338
>muh world bank is a jew propaganda until I agree with them

Wild, and the “muh GDP” meme too lmao

>>513884412
Nobody cares about the coalition of poors, including their own overlords LMAO.

>>513884283
>Do you have any idea what lowering the international price cap for oil did to those stupid fucks?
No idea. I live in Russia. Feels great to be a bad guy and be hated by woke and hohol cucks.

>>513884533
>muh world bank is a jew propaganda until I agree with them

i don't have any strong feelings about the world bank. i assume they know what they're doing when it comes to assessing growth.

>>513884470
>slap tariffs and fees to whoever trades in russian oil

And it worked, idiot

>>513884153
>Russia's economy is doing great compared to ours. What was it, 3% growth?

Did you know 3rd Reich's GDP was at its highest in 1944? Or just try to explain to the rest of us how Russia printing money to spend it on military hardware that immediately gets destroyed is good for their economy

>>513884586
You’re poorer than you were over 20 years ago, btw, congratulations on your country going back a few decades

>>513884626
>>slap tariffs and fees to whoever trades in russian oil
>And it worked, idiot

but the US havent done that. they backed off.

Regardless, Russia does not need dollars or euros to produce weapons and everything else it needs to fight the war indefinitely.

>>513884470
Also have OPEC lower oil prices to fuck with Russian oil prices because they fucking can.

>>513884786
>Also have OPEC lower oil prices to fuck with Russian oil prices because they fucking can.

good luck with that. i'm sure Russia will collapse any day now.

>>513882030
So Zelensky wants to meet Putin now? Without a ceasefire? Has he changed the law yet that prohibits himself doing this? Will he sign the peace deal? If not then there is no reason to meet him.

>>513884758
> but the US havent done that. they backed off.

That’s why India and China were the only ones officially buying Russian oil. Hell even India is dropping off, too expensive for shit grade oil.

>>513884187
>They officially want ceasefire but it is just to regroup and rearm
this is only reason

>>513884850
Zelenskyy straight up invited Putin tontalk face to face about territory disputes and Putin is still being a massive pussy having “no questions” press conferences like the most embarrassing politician in history.

>>513884683
Thank you for explaining me that. I failed to notice. Should I support Ukraine now to be rich? Will you send me $10K for starters?

>>513884859
>Hell even India is dropping off, too expensive for shit grade oil.

actually Russian oil is sought after due to it producing a high percentage of diesel fuel which is the number one oil product needed worldwide.

Russia sells or uses itself every barrel it produces. it's business as usual because without oil the world economy ceases to function.

>>513884978
No, I expect you to die while your government violates the last vestiges of misery you call a life.

>>513885058
No, russia sells unrefined dogshit because its cheaper. Like China grade oil for China grade prices. Except now nobody wants their oil.

>>513884978
>Will you send me $10K for starters?

The US can print as many dollars as you want. Better ask for $100k what with all the inflation.

>>513884926
Beggars can't be choosers. Putin negotiates with the choosers: the USA.

>>513885081
>No, I expect you to die while your government violates the last vestiges of misery you call a life.

he seems to think his life is just fine. you on the other hand, seem extremely angry and depressed.

>>513885151
>negotiates

Is that what we’re calling it when you fail to use the military so instead you beg Ukraine to surrender land instead? Because you can’t even force them to do so? Glorious Russian government LMAO.

>>513885081
Too bad. The price now went up: $100K, fair assessment after talking to a consulting party.

>>513885136
>No, russia sells unrefined dogshit because its cheaper.

lol what? what do you mean, unrefined? that's just crude oil like any oil producer sells. you have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

>>513885187
Oh hey, you’re a britfag, you faggots can relate now. Putin is not that different from EU looks like LMAO.

>>513885331
You do know the US processes oil and sells it, right? Russia does not sell processed oil. You DO understand that, I hope.

>>513884582
BRICS have a combined GDP 30% higher than the G7. BRICS have 3x the military force. Your homosexual ICC has lost all power.
Cope and seethe

>>513885352
>Oh hey, you’re a britfag, you faggots can relate now.

don't you have a lot of immigrants in the US too?

>>513884926
Territory swaps are not negotiated in detail on the highest level. Either Zelensky agrees to have this prepared by representatives so it can be signed by him and Putin or he refuses in which case a meeting makes no sense at all. Putin is not gonna bargain with Zelensky. We have seen how this coked up kike threw a temper in the meeting with Trump and Vance. Who would even want to give him the chance for another drama like that?

Why is Trump taking this humilation sitting down?

>>513885263
Begging is Zelensky's professional responsibility. We are using both military and politely offer to give the land in exchange for keeping the Ukrainian lives if they matter anything for you.

>>513885352
>CIA bloggers pretending to be russians say
You are a 16 post lying faggot paid to be here

>>513885426
>You do know the US processes oil and sells it, right?

yes i do. The US does a lot of business refining other peoples' oil.

Russia also sells oil products such as diesel and gasoline as well as crude oil.

>>513885435
>muh GDP meme

You fucking retsrds talking about GDP like you know shit. Indai, Russia, China is about all that BRICS matters and they’re all broke with India doing the best out of all of them.

This is not even taking into consideration that they all hate each other. Especially India and China, who constantly uses Pakistan as a pitbull dog at India.

>>513885452
>Territory swaps are not negotiated in detail on the highest level.

There is no territory swap. There are no negotations.

>>513884859
15% of EU oil still comes from Russia, troon shill

>>513881928 (OP)
Fine. Total zigger death shall continue.
These idiot Russians just don't learn.

>>513885589
>You fucking retsrds talking about GDP like you know shit. Indai, Russia, China is about all that BRICS matters and they’re all broke

Broke in what sense?

>>513885641
That was orban and fico.
Ukraine cut them off.

>>513885689
>Broke in what sense?
Buck.

>>513885689
Broke as in China is in deflation spiral and Russia is in stagflation, an economic fucking phenomenon at that.

>>513885643
We learnt that you will negotiate only after total hohol death. Currently you just want a ceasefire to regroup and rearm.

>>513885592
War will go on then. Odessa and Dnipropetrovsk are on the menu now.

>>513885589
You are a retarded faggot

>BRICS members currently include eleven full member countries as of 2025, and this is actually a pretty big expansion from the original five founding nations that started this whole thing. The BRICS member countries represent over 40% of global population and also control around 37.3% of global GDP right now. With BRICS new members joining throughout 2024 and even in 2025, including Saudi Arabia’s membership completion in July 2025, the alliance continues attracting nations that are seeking alternatives to Western institutions. At the time of writing, 32 countries have expressed interest in joining, along with 23 submitting formal applications.

>>513885643
>Fine. Total zigger death shall continue.
>These idiot Russians just don't learn.

i dont think they are concerned with your opinion.

Give Crimea to natives (Tatars). They may later join to whichever country they want. Problem solved.

>>513885772
>Broke as in China is in deflation spiral and Russia is in stagflation

Neither of those claims is remotely true.

The US is heading for total financial meltdown though.

>>513885804
>copy/paste BRICS dogshit

Handful of westerners are worth 2 BRICS fucking countries and the that’s not even a joke. LMAO

I'm shocked Lavrov even bothered with NBC.
There's better quality journalism on Youtube these days.

>>513885863
>Give Crimea to natives (Tatars).

and who is going to give it to them?

>>513885514
>if they matter anything for you.
Anon, you're dealing with Jews here.

>>513885783
Nobody wants a ceasefire except trump.
Everyone knows Russia has lost.
I personally just want to see as many of you dead as possible.
Just because you think you're all that when you're worse than jeets.

>>513885878
Yeah ok bro, let’s see who reaches the bottom first.

>>513885863
Russians have been the majority in Crimea, before 2014 as well: 65% Russians, 15% Ukrainians and the others.

>>513885792
>War will go on then. Odessa and Dnipropetrovsk are on the menu now.

That's right. The war goes on as long as it has to.

>>513885968
>Yeah ok bro, let’s see who reaches the bottom first.

OK, let's see.

>>513885863
The Tatars are only a tiny minority in Crimea. They have all rights they deserve, not the right to control all of Crimea.

>>513885962
Well, if you believe that, then you have nothing to worry about. Just enjoy the show with the rest of your death cult.

>>513885962
>I personally just want to see as many of you dead as possible.
>Just because you think you're all that when you're worse than jeets.

Show me on the doll where the Russians touched you

>>513885878
Russia admitted economic problems but are dealing with them. They completed a pipeline to Shanghai at the end of last year that supplies gas to 300 million homes. To think China would shut that off is retarded.

>>513886091
China didn’t even bother helping with making the Power of Syberia 2 pipeline, nigger lmao.

>>513885977
And before 2014. Tatars migrated here last century because of you evil Slavs.

>>513885968
It funny when a bassment dwelling faggot like you pretends he can take over the world while wearing womens underwear.

>>513885962
> Nobody wants a ceasefire except trump.
It was the EU clowns Macron & Merz literally begging for a ceasefire and Trump brushing it off. KEK

>>513886147
Thats a lie faggot shill

>>513886147
>China didn’t even bother helping with making the Power of Syberia 2 pipeline, nigger lmao.

OK. And?

>>513882411
He's scared of the 300-500k soldiers and however many factory workers making shit for the war losing all their jobs because he can't afford it after the war is over

>>513886072
>enjoy the show
I watch every drone drop video daily. By now I've probably seen someone you know dissected by dynamite.

>>513886298
>He's scared of the 300-500k soldiers and however many factory workers making shit for the war losing all their jobs because he can't afford it after the war is over

why wouldnt they just switch over to making civilian goods. what were the workers all doing before the war?

>>513881928 (OP)
How much longer until Russia just starts conscripting an entire force of saaaars from India to die instead of Russians?

>>513886268
China hasn’t even discussed it or brought it up, let alone built the fucking thing LMAO.

>>513886269
You don’t even know what the fuck that means, do you? LMAO.

>>513886304
>I watch every drone drop video daily.

not really a big strategic picture guy then.

>>513886446
>You don’t even know what the fuck that means, do you? LMAO.

it means there's a gas pipeline to China.

>>513886269
They hired a ton of cheap labor in China
That guy is just a faggot paid to lie

>>513881928 (OP)
>Chudrov

>>513886405
> why wouldnt they just switch over to making civilian goods. what were the workers all doing before the war?

Fubny you mention that, they’re mostly closing and going out of business due to massive employment issues (no one around to employ) and selling losses. So there won’t be a civilian sector when they come back lmao.

>>513886506
Do you know what Power of Siberia 2 was supposed to be????

>>513886518
>They hired a ton of cheap labor in China
>That guy is just a faggot paid to lie

He seems hysterical to be honest. I prefer to discuss things calmly. I don't have a dog in the fight but I am certain Russia is stronger than we are and is going to win the war based on their weapons production and massive resource base.

>>513886549
>Fubny you mention that, they’re mostly closing and going out of business due to massive employment issues (no one around to employ) and selling losses.

says who?

>>513886631
Like the US won against Vietnam?

>>513886446
What a massive lying faggot you are.
>China never said
Shanghai . Gov

>https://english.shanghai.gov.cn/en-Latest-WhatsNew/20241206/625271036d414f33946427023d6d12cb.html
>A new, high-tech natural gas pipeline running from Russia all the way through to Shanghai is now fully operational, the China Oil and Gas Pipeline Network Corporation (PipeChina) said on Dec 2.

>The China-Russia east-route pipeline, with a capacity of transporting 38 billion cubic meters per year, took nearly a decade to construct and stretches over 5,000 kilometers from northern China to the east coast.

>>513886599
>Do you know what Power of Siberia 2 was supposed to be????

a gas pipeline I imagine like Power of Siberia 1.

>>513886662
Says their less than 2% unemployment rates (aka dangerously low employee numbers), and the fact that they nationalized half their economy to feed their war economy. doesn't take an economist to know what happens next.

>>513881928 (OP)
That's an orc

>>513882030
What would meeting him change? Zelensky is a US puppet. Chances are that he'd somehow try to poison him. Besides, he has no real power. Putin already met with Trump, the one person who could theoretically end the war by standing down and cutting all support. But the Russians know that it's all a PR stunt to buy time. The war isn't going to end peacefully, there won't be negotiations either. Russia's gonna take over all of Ukraine, basically to the last Ukrainian. The end. It's none of our problem anyway. Just ignore it.

>>513886680
>Like the US won against Vietnam?

They are going to get the land they claim and make it part of Russia. That doesnt seem anything like the Vietnam war.

>>513886804
Logistics. We’ve all seen its Russia’s biggest weakness lmao.

>>513886798
>Says their less than 2% unemployment rates

sounds great, everyone has a job.

>>513886842
>Logistics. We’ve all seen its Russia’s biggest weakness lmao.

what? what did you want to say about logistics?

>>513886702
Yawn

>>513886803
>Russia's gonna take over all of Ukraine
How are they going to do that? They didn't manage it with their entire soviet stockpile of weapons.
How are they going to do it now they've all been destroyed?
Come on Einstein. Give us a laugh.

>>513886803
>Russia's gonna take over all of Ukraine

they won't. West Ukraine is economically useless and obviously hostile to Russia. They'll leave it as a failed state to drain Europe's resources.

>>513886976
>How are they going to do it now they've all been destroyed?

Russia is churning out new weapons in massive quantities.

>>513886851

>>513886930
Not a source tranny faggot shill
Even Wiki says you are fake and gay

>>513886976
Very slowly.

>>513887012
Well, they'll do whatever the hell they'll do then. Not like they have to manage what they take over. They could expel the Ukrainians into Europe, who'd "happily" take them in, to everyone's detriment. Maybe the Brits would want them? That would be hilarious.

>>513886298
> because he can't afford it after the war is over
Don't you know that those are state owned factories? The workers exist as hungry mouths anyway, if they produce weapons or not. Russia "buys" weapons from themselves. What they would like to increase are exports and these will increase once war is over. The global demand for sophisticated Russian weapons will SKYROCKET!

>>513886888
The same reason tehy can’t push forward. They can’t move along the lines effectively or any supplies or equipment. Soldiers barely armed and starving? Plenty of logistics issues.

>>513887107
>Very slowly.

There is no hurry.

>>513887107
>Very slowly.
With what?

>>513887103
Sure, go ahead and show me where that Power of Siberia 2 pipeline got built.

>>513887157
>The same reason tehy can’t push forward.

They are pushing forward, slowly. There is no rush.

>>513887146
>The global demand for sophisticated Russian weapons will SKYROCKET!
Everyone has seen how ineffectual russian weapons are and their sales have plummeted.
Hard to sell shit that doesn't work, on video after video after video.

>>513881928 (OP)
Trump is in league with Putin and all this show is made deliberately to stall weapon shipments.

>>513887296
Lmao, every day Putin needs to beg for Ukraine to give up is a day we all collectively laugh at Russia.

>>513887212
Is there? As a Slovenian this does not affect me at all. If Russia loses, great. If Russia wins, great. Same thing. If Germany gets neutron bombed and all Germans go extinct overnight. Wow... that happened? Real and true, brother. Anyway.... Basically, that's my take. It literally doesn't affect me. But considering that Ukraine requires the full western support to continue this, I can see Russia winning in the end as the supporting countries cut backing over fatigue and various internal issues that are cropping up.

>>513887270
Shovels.

>>513887270
>With what?

artillery, drones, Kinzhals, FAB guided bombs, you name it, they have it.

>>513886976
War of attrition. Russia produces multiple times the weapons Ukraine receives from NATO. And Ukraine runs out of meat to operate their weapons.

>>513887084
What embarrassingly obvious coping. These are the same "economists" that would always say "deflation bad" for several decades. The entire field of study is as genuine as sociology.

>>513887376
>Everyone has seen how ineffectual russian weapons are

on the contrary their weapons have proven to be robust, cheap to make and highly effective.

it's of no importance if they sell them abroad or not, they would be wiser to stockpile them for the next war.

>>513887581
Sweet jesus are you fucking stupid? Do you know what a deflationary cycle is, dumbass? Like Xi Jinping had no idea either and now China’s population can barely afford fucking ramen now LMAO.

>>513887581
>What embarrassingly obvious coping.

i'm not even looking at these images with text he posts.

>>513887290
Its just a branch off existing pipelines troon shill. Funny how you pretend they didnt just build the largest fastest pipeline on earth to Shanhai.

Yea, once one pipeline is completed the crews can build another. They are negotiating. Faggot

>>513887551
No. They don't. The average russian attack now is lucky if they have a few motorbikes.
Do try to keep up with facts.

>>513882382
>Why would he want to meet Zelensky exactly.
Because eventually he's gonna piss off Trump and Trump and NATO will retaliate and Putin can't even handle that faggot Zelensky.

>>513887682
>m-muh big pipeline

There’s no such thing, shill. It never happened.

trump is such a cvck, it's unreal.

>>513887551
>War of attrition. Russia produces multiple times the weapons Ukraine receives from NATO. And Ukraine runs out of meat to operate their weapons.

It's that simple. Instead we have people raving on about gas pipelines and how China is broke.

>>513887758
Any pipeline helping Russia will just be mercilessly bombed by Ukraine.
As orban and fico are currently finding out.

>>513887706
>NATO will retaliate

with what exactly? NATO won't do shit because it's too weak.

orange moron was tricked by putin once again
hahahahahahahahhaaaaaaaaa

>>513882030
Zelensky himself said that he does not want to meet with Putin.

>>513887887
>Any pipeline helping Russia will just be mercilessly bombed by Ukraine.

Ukraine can bomb Siberia now? Wow.

Unfortunate.

>>513887676
Yeah, he's retarded. We deserve better shills. You know it's truly over when jeets are being used to attempt to influence opinions on basket weaving forums. >>513887672

>>513887376
> Everyone has seen how ineffectual russian weapons are
Rather the contrary. Russia constantly improved their weapons and now has the most advanced arsenal and know-how for modern drone warfare.

>>513888066
Its like watching a nigger being incapable of understanding “per capita”. It’s honestly amazing to see incompetence of this level live.

>>513888044
>Ukraine can bomb Siberia now?
He doesn't know.......

>>513888096
>Rather the contrary. Russia constantly improved their weapons and now has the most advanced arsenal and know-how for modern drone warfare.

Spot on again. The British Army in its entirety would last maybe 2 or 3 days against the drones Russia has now.

>>513887758
So why did the chinese government put out this story?
>>513886702

You are a pathetic faggot
Everyone hates you

>>513888219
>He doesn't know.......

you're not referring to this ridiculous Flamingo missile are you?

>>513888096
>now has the most advanced arsenal and know-how for modern drone warfare.
Why aren't they winning then?
While their infrastructure gets droned nightly.

>>513888347
>Why aren't they winning then?

They are winning.

>>513881928 (OP)
If Ukraine refuses to accept their demands there is no point in meetings from the russian governments perspective

>>513888298
That’s not even the pipeline I was talking about, retard. You know this which is why you were coping with “muh branch of the pipeline” like a fucking mumbling mongoloid.

>>513888034
Not recently

>>513884926
Putin is taking estrogen

>>513888347
we are, hence why the ukranny is the only party losing territory and the only party seeing random men kidnapped off the streets

>>513883963
I could kill you with my bare hands

>>513888439
>That’s not even the pipeline I was talking about, retard.

why do you keep talking about pipelines to China? the war is in Ukraine.

>>513888384
You seem obsessed with drawing me into an argument paki.
You'll notice I've made an effort not to rise to your bait paki.
It's because I don't argue with pakis, paki.
Do you understand paki?
Get the fuck out of my country paki.
Leave before we make you. Paki.

>>513888488
Your troops are currently being encircled outside pokrovsk, pushed out of settlements in sumy, driven back in luhansk and you're running out of fuel while your economy collapses.
You ain't shit Ivan.

>>513888591
>You seem obsessed with drawing me into an argument paki.

I'm here to argue/debate, as are you and as is everyone else on the thread.

it's nothing personal.

>>513888420
or even compromise on anything

>>513888709
>Your troops are currently being encircled outside pokrovsk, pushed out of settlements in sumy, driven back in luhansk

lol. sounds like German news bulletins from April 1945.

>>513888712
>it's nothing personal.
It is for me paki.

>>513888782
>It is for me paki.

you sound like a chav to me.

>>513888780
Putin is like Hitler though
Going to die embarassingly

>>513888733
Why would Ukraine compromise on anything?
Total russian surrender or total russian death.
Russia is a spent force while Ukraine's strength just grows.

>>513888733
Checked, yeah they have lost atleast 150 000 people themselves at this point, they are not going to do any compromises at all or its a humiliation, too much has been sacrificed for that to even be considered

>>513888875
>Putin is like Hitler though

Right. Ukrainian forces are surrounding Moscow I hear.

>>513888915
>Russia is a spent force while Ukraine's strength just grows.

Ukraine is a basket case kidnapping 60 year old men off the street to throw into battle.

>>513888967
Russniggers certainly aren't encircling Kyiv

The saddest part of this entire discussion is every single one of you russian shills will disappear and pretend you weren't wrong when the inevitable russian collapse comes.
Bunch of fucking cucks.

>>513889076
>Russniggers certainly aren't encircling Kyiv

No reason to.

>>513889087
What cause will the BRICS trannies move onto next?

what the point of meetings ?
putin publicly said
>gib donbass
>no nato
>and we have a deal
zelensky publicly said
>no gif donbass
>gib nato
>gib article 5
>gib gibs to recover economy
>and we have a deal
once again what the point of meeting? unless one of them says
>yes ii agree
publicly there is no point in meetings

>>513889150
BRICS hate faggots
God hates faggots
Sux to be you

>>513889087
> the inevitable russian collapse
Sure thang.

>>513889281
Trannies are sacred in India

>>513889087
>inevitable russian collapse
Kek

>>513883501
I agree, and I'd never argue otherwise.

I'm pointing out that the Russians constantly pretend they want diplomacy to achieve peace, such as in that article I linked. This is very basic propaganda that unfortunately works on the biggest retards on Earth who believe they are sincere.

>>513883972
>>513884246
It's not 'the media' that's saying that, it's what Trump and Witkoff have said. The media are reporting it.
Trump said Putin agreed with this, a claim he made a few months back too.
It's pretty obvious Putin never agreed to anything of the sort but Trump lies 24/7 so that's not unexpected. It seems Trump is trying to manifest something into being by just pretending it's happening.

>>513889437
>Sure thang.

Any day now. For unknown reasons Russia will stop producing 4 million 152mm artillery shells a year and just give up.

>>513889550
>I'm pointing out that the Russians constantly pretend they want diplomacy to achieve peace

they want diplomacy to explain their position. Obviously they are pretty naive to think we care about their position.

>>513889673
Only faggot retards believe their "position"

>>513889673
They are claiming (lying) that they want peace.
>"We want peace in Ukraine. US President Trump also wants peace in Ukraine. The reaction to the Anchorage meeting, the visit of these European representatives to Washington, and their subsequent actions indicate that they do not want peace. They say they cannot allow Ukraine to be defeated. They cannot allow Russia to win. These are the categories they use — ‘victory’, ‘defeat’, etc," he said, adding that Putin also wants peace.


Which is obviously bullshit. Same way a burglar breaking into your house doesn't get to say 'I am a man of peace, if the guy living there just gave me all his money without a fight then there'd be no violence.'

>>513889945
How does anyone actually fall for the Russnigger argument?

>>513882030
Maybe the hohols could try slightly harder than electing a kike comedian to represent them?
Do you think America would be taken seriously by anyone in a war if they elected Jon Stewart President?

>>513890125
Trump is much more of a clown than Zelensky

>>513884037
Ofk. https://x.com/i/status/1826650779156881611

>>513889928
>Only faggot retards believe their "position"

Their position is that they are going to take 4 Ukrainian oblasts and make them part of Russia.

>>513889945
>They are claiming (lying) that they want peace.

after they win the war, yes.

>>513889150
No doubt Chinese supremacy. Maybe the Indian pooper power again.
Who fucking knows with these daddy issue clowns?

>>513890119
Daddy issues. They gravitate to 'strong' men and it makes them gullible to propaganda.

>>513890491
A.) No he isn't. First you libs call him a clown, then you claim he's a fascist dictator. Make your fucking mind up.
B.) Zeloonsky is a kike comedian and has spent most of the "war" in Poland with a green screen. Why would Putin debase himself by meeting him? Would americas adversaries meet with Jon Stewart if (((they))) made him President? What, to make the negotiations a daily show sketch? That is what you are asking Putin to do.

>>513882030
Look up videos where he makes any kind of public appearances, half the city gets shut down. Forget Zelensky, this manlet is completely horrified of his own people

>>513882030
Russians are delusional. They think they will win this war but the reality is that we will give even more weapons to Ukraine, allow long range strikes, even send stroops. Russia is on its way for total regime ack and partition. If 60 millions russians have to die, then so be it.

>>513884172
Don't expect Putin to make any sense. He's a hypocritical coward.

>>513881928 (OP)
Isn't surprising. Hohols got full support from North American Israel and thus Zelensky refused to give up any land in peace deal.

Meaning war will continue. Drumpf will not release Epstein files.

>>513893764
War will continue till all russianz become nothing but fertilizer. I hope we don't get food poisoning from your corpses.

>>513882824
Okay commie now go back to worshipping stalin and the syphilis ridden corpse of the kike lenin

>>513891866
>60 millions
Bit moderate polebro. All must die.

>>513890125
Its not like you hate jews anway after all your idol Lenin was a kike

>>513895169
I hope the first flamingo hits Lenins tomb.

>>513889281
>BRICS hate faggots
Lmao South Africa and Brazil are more pro lgbt than any western country

>>513895367
That would be great.
Also the kremlin wall to blow up Stalin tomb. COmmunism is cancer

>>513890658
That isn't what they're saying, they're saying they want peace talks now, in fact they claim to have offered peace talks before too.
Russia does not want peace talks right now, it is a lie.

Technically using this idiotic logic every single conflict in history was started by a peaceful party because you can say 'we want peace, we'll get peace when the other side is dead :^) we are peaceful!'. It's a retarded argument and everyone who isn't 80 IQ sees it for what it is.

>>513890119
All sorts of stupid people believe in it for their own reasons.
A lot of Russian sympathizers are outright commies who have always despised NATO, these are people like Abby Martin, Galloway, Noam Chomsky, who will occasionally, begrudgingly say something negative about the war but you can tell their heart isn't in it, and usually they'll immediately pivot to complaining about America as usual.

These people don't really believe the Russian argument tbqh, they just say they do because it's better optics to pretend you're a dove rather than say you're a bloodthirsty warmongering hawk who loves the war.

There's also a bunch of people who think Putin is a scorned anime hero fighting globhomo and that the entire war is being fought due to trannies and wokeness, these people are dumb as rocks.

>>513896093
Pretty much all of the hard left in Europe is pro Russia even in Iceland, the socalists party (maoist larpers) are pro Russia.

>>513891231
>That is what you are asking Putin to do.
The only person asking them to meet is Trump.

It's his stupid idea that he started going on about constantly in the campaign trail. No one else thinks getting Putin and Zelensky to meet would be very productive.
He keeps saying it because he said he'd get the war finished in 24 hours if he could 'get them both together in a room'.

It's clear that neither party wants to meet, Putin isn't going to ever do it, but he's pretending like he will arranging it in two more weeks every two weeks forevermore.

>>513896302
I expect it with the hard left because they hate the West. For years their logic has been 'anything anti Western = good'.
The more irritating ones are the hard right wingers who keep spouting decades old tankie talking points without realizing it.

>>513896606
And they are permabutthurt about the soviet union collapsing and will never get over it.

>>513886054
Also they are not "natives", the Greeks were there before them

>>513896093
>Galloway
I met this prick back in 2000s. He wasn't so far gone then.

>>513896606
>The more irritating ones are the hard right wingers who keep spouting decades old tankie talking points without realizing it.
You're describing maga.

>>513882030
Why would Putin end the war now? He has gained the advantage, clearly, and it increases every day. The whole front is moving forward all at once and faster each week now. This is a war of attrition and the final result of these wars is a slow but building collapse which increases in severity and finally the whole thing falls over very quickly.

>>513888444
Zelensky went out of his way to pass a law making it illegal for anybody, including himself, to negotiate with Putin. Did he undo this law yet? Add to this the fact that Russia has said they don't consider him the legitimate leader of Ukraine because he was not duly elected. But really I'm sure they know he's a puppet which is why they went to Trump directly.

>>513897318
It's a lot of MAGA but it's not just an American phenomenon. Over there Farage has repeated similar things about 'NATO encroachment', as has Peter Hitchens. There's a similar faction in German politics too, etc.

>>513897239
Some of them are just saying what they're paid to tbqh.
Col. Douglas MacGregor is possibly the most ridiculous.

>>513896748
Yes that too. It's why for years and years they've been trying to will the collapse of the West into creation by saying it over and over.