All assorted imperial bongery and it's brown fallout can fuck right off.

>>513976417 (OP)
The IRA are now landlords & property developers. That's all you need to know.

>>513977431
>All assorted imperial bongery and it's brown fallout can fuck right off
What part of my OP did you not understand?

>>513976417 (OP)
I would assume they would be against it. That would be the only position they could take that would make sense.

>>513977996
You're a mutt who can't take a simple truth. You don't make the rules. go & find a rope. nmp.

>>513976417 (OP)
Ireland a ireland
nation unfree
irish shall never
and free be at peace!

>>513978153
They were leftists unfortunately

>>513976417 (OP)
The IRA have been niggerlovers for 70 years now.

>>513977431
This. The IRA has not existed in a meaningful way in 20 years.

The guys who were in it are now either landlords/property developers, or washed up "political commentors" who are sad that the GFA didn't magically end sectarianism.
>okay, so what WOULD they have thought
The Provisional IRA, the largest and most significant IRA splinter from 1969-2005, openly rejected racist politics and met regularly with Militant African-American groups. They were left wing.

The only other IRA factions were the ones even more left wing.
>>513978153
Not really. They'd take the view that if 100 people have to queue to view a potential home and 20 of them are immigrants, then shooting the landlord and having the state seize the home is the correct move.

Many Americans have a very misguided view that the IRA was some epic ethno-nationalist group of basedboys. It wasn't. The most "right-wing" it ever got was in the 1920s, when it was still broadly "centre-left" fighting for a Republic that promised social, religious, and economic equality.

They did work with the Nazis in the 1940s, but mostly because they were best poised to bash Britain at the time-not out of any sympathy for Nazism.

i hate vibes based politics and retarded mutts. find any evidence of the provisional ira supporting or opposing immigration. you cant. it doesnt exist, retards.

they want all the ulster scots(jews) gone. thats a good enough start

>>513976417 (OP)
"Brits out pakis in"
I wish I was making it up.

>>513979411
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>>513978644
>>513978153
these clowns cant find ANY evidence eitherway
>inb4 sinn fein
rope. immediately

>>513978782
lol no. The most prominent IRA group during the Troubles was the Provisional IRA, which was nationalist. The Marxist section of the IRA only wanted to wage a "defensive war" (whatvever that means) and barely did any attacks.

>>513976417 (OP)
They're all about free Palestine and the latest thing. Doesn't matter if you think they were cool in the 1980s and 90s, they're gay now and you know it.

>>513979404
>they want all the ulster scots(jews) gone
No they didn't and don't. The literal first Chief of Staff of the IRA wrote extensively about how retarded that is.
>>513979541
No I agree, you can't really get a good source on an IRA statement about immigration. Because immigration wasn't really on their radar. Because they were more focused on fighting the British Security Forces.

But the idea that they would adopt some sort of hardline anti-immigrant stance does seem dubious, considering that almost none of the veterans of the movement landed in those politics. The few who did are the target of much derision.

So while I don't think the IRA were happy-clappy lefties, I don't think the idea that they would have taken a hard anti-immigrant stance to hold much water either. They were fighting the Brits.

>>513980433
>which was nationalist
*Socialist. They weren't Marxists, but you've gone too far in the other direction.

The IRA's social-political policy was Éire Nua, a very obviously left-wing manifesto calling for rural communes and a federal republic, and their weekly newsletters wrote constantly about the injustices of big corporations and landlords and so on. They were absolutely and categorically left wing.

The reasons they split with the Marxists were;
>Marxists wanted to end abstention, build a big far-left political bloc, reduce the IRA to a minor role
>Move away from physical force, focus on politics
>Generally abandon Irish Republicanism in favour of more typial eurocommunist stuff

The leaders of the Provisional faction essentially said
>fancy load of shite, there are brits on the streets killing irish people right NOW, our job is to fight them, not debate them in university halls
But they remained left wing throughout the entire conflict. To call them literally anything else is a LARP.
>>513980444
Palestine helped the Provisional IRA during the Troubles.

>>513980464
>The literal first Chief of Staff of the IRA wrote extensively about how retarded that is
having a bit of trouble finding a source on this specific statement. sp00nf33d me pls

>>513976417 (OP)
I've just rang them. They said they want total nigger death.

>>513980464
he's english and his mother was a hun, so i dont doubt his sentiments. suspicious of the motives but if you have sauce i would appreciate it

>>513976417 (OP)
I need some redpills so Bo Sinn party is it related to IRA or was???

>>513980776
>>513981060
https://republicanarchive.com/

Find the "books" section. You're looking for
>Revolutionary in Ireland (Seán MacStíofáin)
The 1st Chief of Staff of the IRA had a Protestant mother who was the main inspiration for his Irish nationalism. He writes extensively about how sectarianism is a plague, and about how he thought people were retarded for falling for it-whatever religion they be.

Other IRA texts repeat this constantly. If you think any part of Irish Nationalism or Republicanism is
>heh, fuck da prods
Then you are going against the beliefs of just about every single Irish nationalist movement in the last 200 years.

Another good book is "Freedom Struggle", not written by Seán, but instead simply "by the Provisional IRA." That book also lays out the very clear fact
>no, we shouldn't kill all prods
>for fuck's sake, half our debate societies are named after revolutionary prods
>we should be fighting the brits
>and trying to convince prods that britain doesn't care about them
>if they won't listen, that's fine - we keep fighting the brits, and we ensure that any of our policies don't discriminate against prods

also >>513981060 to simply call him "English" is reductive. He did more for Ireland than you, me, or any Irish politician since 1922.

>>513980660
Interesting. I didn't know that. But I'm curious, since the IRA was left-wing, how did they square that with their Catholicism? Were the explicitly Marxist crowd in the IRA anti-Catholic, or did they just not care? Was the Socialist bloc of the IRA just ambiguous on the question of religion?

>>513981203
The political party is Sinn Féin.

It was founded in the early 1900s, but slowly became the big "fuck off Britain" party. It attached itself to the Irish Volunteers, who later became the IRA. After the Irish revolution and civil war (early 1920s) both Sinn Féin and the IRA were suppressed, with factions splitting off from it to form their own parties.

Sinn Féin and the IRA both continued to exist, but the IRA was the senior partner; the IRA starts a campaign, Sinn Féin shills for it. This remained the case into the Troubles, until the mid 1980s when Sinn Féin became the senior partner and the IRA started following *their* orders instead.

Sinn Féin is the political wing of the IRA, and the IRA the miliary wing of Sinn Féin. Sinn Féin still exists, the IRA does not. (except for splitters that LARP)

>>513981258
you're ignoring the blood in the blood and soil part. but thanks, ill look through it im ashamed i havent done a deep dive before actually. nice one, lad

>also
will our grandchildren honor the based nigerian-irish rebels?

it was never sectarian, it was ethnic. and you say im being reductionist?

>>513981305
>since the IRA was left-wing, how did they square that with their Catholicism
You don't need to be of any religion to join the IRA. Irish Republicanism is a movement based on the idea that Protestants and Catholics should work together to free themselves-hence the Green (Catholics, Nationalists) and Orange (Protestants, Unionists) on the Irish flag, with white (peace) between them.

If you mean
>how did they square having left wing views with being catholic?
Probably the same way they squared shooting people and blowing them up with being Catholic, anon. Left wing does not always mean "burn down all the churches and kill all the priests."

The IRA were left wing because Irish nationalism is rooted in
>we should probably reform the land distribution to be fairer
>we should probaby reform society to be fairer
>we should take the fight to britain if they try to stop us

Religion never came into it. Nobody was fighting for a "Catholic Ireland", they fought for a Republic. The Catholic Church had a mixed relationship with them; it condemned the violence officially (of course) but then individuals would sometimes sympathise with or openly aid the IRA.

>>513981497
>you're ignoring the blood in the blood and soil part
That's because the IRA didn't care about it, anon.

It's never been a blood and soil movement.
>will our grandchildren honor the based nigerian-irish rebels?
I don't think there'll be any. Unification will happen and probably long after most want it, and won't be half as exciting as people think.
>it was never sectarian, it was ethnic.
Eh sort of. Ethnic in the sense that most of these rebellions took place from the 1790s to the mid-late 20th Century, so views on race were fuelled by that.

That doesn't make them ethnonationalists; there were (VERY rare) black members of the IRA, and hilariously also of loyalist paramilitaries. But for most of the 20th Century Ireland was paralysed with fear over population decline, so news that
>more """workers""" are arriving
was welcomed, not condemned. Again - the average IRA man was just some working class geezer, so the academic stuff only carries so much weight.

But the idea of the IRA ever being "blood and soil" with ethno-nationalist tones is a LARP. Again, they were in with the Militant African-American groups like the Panthers and others, some of whom they invited to their offices here in Ireland.

Their view was very simple;
>if you will give us guns/money
>or make us look good
>and aren't hurting our cause
>we will work with you, because we're up against a much bigger enemy

>>513976417 (OP)
The IRA is not Sinn Fein. They got betrayed by their political wing who sided with globohomo and pedos(IRA knew about pedos in the UK government even whacked a few of them Sin Fein knew this btw). IRA is strictly nationalist. So yes, they are against rapefugees. They also never gave up their armories that Sinn Fein wanted them to after 'negotiations'. Too bad they lost half their smuggling network. Today they seem to have adopted a more decentralized leaderless resistance model with sabotage over their historic roots which is interesting as many of their techniques and methods were heavily studied and inspired the makers of previous mentioned subject. MIt5 also LOVES blaming them for decentralized leaderless cell movements to the point of using them as a codename for their actions. You do not want to know how long it took me to finally realize that.

>>513983510
You, like many yanks, have it half right.
>Betrayed by their political wing
In truth the idea of it being a betrayal didn't come around until later on. It was the "ballot and bullet" strategy; the IRA fights, Sinn Féin campaigns. It seemed fair enough; Sinn Féin makes political inroads *without* abandoning the guys who fought so they could do so. If Unionism blocks them, back to the bullet. If they're welcomed into politics, ballot box-backed by threat of bullet if that's taken away.
>Today they seem to have adopted a more decentralized leaderless resistance
The IRA is gone, anon. Not "decentralised." The few splinters which exist are so heavily monitered by MI5 that they're practically controlled opposition. The only actual active "Republican Paramilitaries" are the commies who spend most of their time vandalising the homes of landlords, beating up drug dealers, or posting on twitter.

The IRA has always been decentralised. Never "leaderless" but always decentralised.

In Loyalism it's even weirder, the UDA+UVF never ever went away but are instead just tolerated as Unionist lobby groups via the Loyalist Communities Council. They were consulted on Brexit.

>>513983861
If the IRA were truly dead you would have had all those hidden armories of theirs removed which was one of the main requirements from those negotiations with Sinn Fein. The IRA was supposed to disarm but they refused. However those armories still exist to this day, so whatever remnants of the IRA that still exist have successfully held out long enough to keep them intact. MI5 also for some god forsaken reason still has the hugest hate boner for them. They love pinning the blame of 'far right extremists' and decentralized leaderless resistance cells on them. Honestly have no idea why besides some shitty codename in the attempt to conceal what's really going on but from what I can tell IRA remnants only do shit in Ireland not the UK. They seem to be undergoing a metamorphisis that I have seen similar to what the militias went through but are also heavily inspired/influenced by the UK sabotage cells just not as prolific. Definitely a ticking time bomb though but who knows what the next gen are gonna be like.

I'll admit I don't really know much about the Unionist loyalists of northern Ireland. They still have too much loyalty to globohomo that wants them exterminated but are slowly realizing this. If they don't do something soon though the UK is also gonna genocide them out of existence too.

>>513984712
Anon, I am telling you, they're gone.
>all those hidden armouries removed
The doomsday bunkers that still exist are mostly OIRA aligned, not PIRA, and are full of dogshit communist weapons. Meanwhile, in reality, the (heavily armed) PSNI regularly raids Republican neighbourhoods for weapons.
>The IRA was supposed to disarm but refused
...because it was demanded as step 1 to them getting to talks. The disagreed. They were admitted to talks, and THEN disarmed.
>whatever remnants of the IRA that still exist have successfully held out long enough to keep them intact
You say you don't know much about loyalists-I would say you likewise share an ignorance of Republicans, because Republican paramilitaries are such a non-issue that they openly hold parades and guards of honour and nobody gives a fuck.

It's not half as clandestine as you think. Here's the QRD;
>Continuity IRA
Split from the Provisional IRA after 1986 General Army Convention. Technially been active since, but they do fuck all and barely exist anymore. Never really did much killing beyond a PSNI officer.
>New IRA
Merger of the "Real IRA" (split from Provos in 1997) and Republican Action Against Drugs (guys who kneecap drug dealers). Links to Saoradh, a socialist group.
>Irish National Liberation Army (INLA)
Disarmed in 2010, still exists mostly via the Irish Republican Socialist Party (IRSP) who are mostly active in Belfast and Derry.
>"Óglaigh na hÉireann"
Split from the Real IRA after an internal feud. Never had more than a few dozen members, disbanded and was replaced by the "Irish Republican Movement" which has done fuck all squared since.

The ONLY one of these of any note anymore is the "New IRA" which does indeed exist and is large+armed, but they are also very well known to authorities. They shot a PSNI Detective in 2023 and six of them were immediately arrested for it.

>>513981934
im not making claims about the ideology of the past ira. im just stating the reality of the situation. its far too complex for me to say "it was just ethnic" but they were disparate ethnic groups. thats why they has different faiths and political leanings.
there are a handful of races of people in ireland that you could call irish. the ulster scots are the descendants of sephardic jews. i would honestly take a based nigerian over a hun every time given the choice

his book is interesting though. i love that history is far more nuanced than modern narratives

>>513986314
>the ulster scots are the descendants of sephardic
That's a retarded Orange Order theory, anon. Randomly hating Protestants does you a disservice; every single group that has actually fought for Ireland in the last 200 years has involved Protestants, and has owed its existence to the founding of the Irish Republican movement BY Protestants.

LARP all you like, but trying to strongarm
>ugh...stupid prods...
>why can't you be a based catholic like me
will just get you laughed at, because the IRA fundamentally didn't give a fuck.

If you want to find some epic ethnonationalist "Catholics only!!!!" Irish movement, I guess pick one of the fringe groups from the 30s or 40s. Most of them were retards, though.

>>513981676
Thanks for the response. You mentioned the IRA published weekly newsletters. Are these available to read online?