Thread 515437937

Hypothetically speaking, what do you think the reaction would be if it turned out Kirk’s killer was a groyper/far right conservative?

/pol/ would deny it like they denied the Minnesota shooter was a conservative

>>515437937 (OP)
almost certainly a ukrainian hitter

it would make sense, a tranny or a 60 pound communist whos afraid of guns could not pull off a shot like that

>>515438058
True. But what about all the MAGA influencers ranting about how evil the left is? would they eat their words?

>>515437937 (OP)
none because that's not realistic.

>>515437937 (OP)
I would tell all of you that you work for us and to stop running gayops

>>515437937 (OP)
It was an H1B sniper.

>>515438225
They literally all got together and took pictures with empty binders for "Phase 1" of the Epstein file release, which Trump has fought tooth and nail against ever since and they all just pretend it never happened.
They have no shame and their audience have the memory of goldfish.

>>515437937 (OP)
Who cares what it 'would' be? it SHOULD be the death penalty for whoever did it.

>>515438302
It’s not impossible

>>515438058
>minnesota shooter
Who, the tranny church shooter?

>>515438982
in this context, even a conspiracy would be more likely, since we actually have a precendent for such conspiracies, particularly when it comes to being obsessed with framing/optics (see twitter files and differential treatment of different protests during the oppressive measures taken during the pandemic)

>>515437937 (OP)
deep deep denial

>>515439346
No no, that was the shooter from two weeks ago.
The anon was talking about the other high profile multi person shooting in Minnesota in the last six months.
Can't fault you. It's hard to keep up with all of these shootings that we refuse to do anything about regardless of if the suggestion comes from the left or right because we are the rotting corpse of a once functioning nation.

>>515438058
i think if you shoot someone by definition you arent a cuckservative

>>515438058
The guy driving around with a bunch of "No kings" flyers?

>>515439989
someone needs to IPO a mass shooter ETF so we can gamble on it like we do everything else in this fake and gay system

>>515437937 (OP)
it's gonna be a q psycho that was mad about epstein. kirk was too vocal of a defender for it to be anything else. the moment it's revealed it gets memory-holed and they focus on the rhetoric.

>>515438058
>/pol/ never does anything
>every time /pol/ does something they deny it
pick one already

>>515440155
Are you fucking retarded? Do you genuinely think he planned on just showing up to a protest and peacefully walking around with signs directly after going on a killing spree of Democrat politicians? Are you genuinely that dumb?

>>515437937 (OP)
plebbit daydream because they know they are looking like violent freaks

>>515438058
the church shooter? doubt

What 18 yo Trump supporter has no social media and uses encrypted communication even the fbi can't break. Then has his house professionally cleaned up to the point of there being no silverware? He had two cars at the rally; how does he get 2 cars to one spot?
He had help. And there were two shooters.

>>515437937 (OP)
>Groyper
Am I supposed to pretend these niggers didn't campaign for Kamala?

>>515440500
That never happened but it should have

>>515438225
cherry picking doesn't work. The retarded left doesnt get it. Everything needs to be explained to them like a child, and just like a child when they dont get their way, they freak out and resort to violence. Picking off corrupt lefties is a GOOD THING. Shooting someone for speaking a different opinion is pure evil. Trying to assassinate the president because they listen to tabloid lefty news is BEYOND retarded. Especially after they've been CAUGHT lying time after time. Nonstop receipts that go back to fucking Rodney King

>>515437937 (OP)
>Hypothetically speaking, what do you think the reaction would be if it turned out Kirk’s killer was a groyper/far right conservative?
Probably the same reaction as when it is revealed to have been a leftist.
Denial and insanity.
I don't really care about Kirk, though, I just want to see leftists start being rounded up and executed and hope this can be enough of a trigger event for that.

>>515437937 (OP)
It doesn't matter. They will likely just say he was a leftist and disinformation will spread with it to make it impossible to distinguish what his political leanings are.

>libtards post violent stuff 24/7 on plebbit
>libtard shoots someone
>libtards act embarrassed and deny its them
lol

>>515438058
When you have proof he is well believe you

>>515440498
works cited on that two cars claim?

>>515440645
i do wish i could be this mindbroken. just pure delusion

>>515438058
Literally worked for Tim Walz you stupid faggot.

>>515440421
Nah. I think he had them from his actions at an earlier time.
What's your suggestion, he liked how the font looked?

>>515437937 (OP)
Am I the only one who heard him saying he had the right to remain silent? Why would he say that? Seems odd.

I also heard a rumor he yelled out..."i did it" ...to distract i guess

>>515440866
The protest was the day after the shootings, you stupid nigger

>>515438225
even if the shooter is mr. america the ultra right wing hitler u can't delete all ur celebratory tweets, so no. the world is aware that ur all subhumans now.

>>515440498
>no silverware
huh?

>>515440632
>That never happened but it should have
Must suck to have chosen the losing side.

>>515440861
he was re-appointed to a bipartisan board by tim walz. he was appointed by a republican. you fucking mongrel nigger

>>515440955
Clearly he acquired them with the intention of going originally, but after deciding he was going to murder two people decided to do that instead and didn't take the time to clean out his car.

Again, what's your suggestion?

>>515437937 (OP)
>Still trying to run the psyop that the kid was a Republican
EL
OH
EL

>>515441192
Are you this fucking dense? His plan was to kill as many Democrat politicians as he could until he got caught. Obviously he would have planned on blending into the protest and then shooting unsuspecting Dem politicians that showed up. Genuinely, I’m so curious what your theory is though. Please enlighten me on why this anti-abortion, anti-LGBT, noted MAGA, religious extremist had No Kings signs in his car.

>>515441745
Got a single source to back any of that up that isn't some random person after the fact?

>>515437937 (OP)
No one would believe it. Yeah, maybe the groypers and others in the right had disagreements with him, but they also shared in other fundamental things he preached too like liberty, free speech and so on.

>>515440861
For a nonpartisan position

>>515440821
>>515440155
His roommate and friend of 40 years said he listened to Infowars, supported Trump, disliked Tim Walz and Nancy Pelosi, would be offended to be thought of as a Dem, and was a fervert anti-abortion activist
https://youtube.com/shorts/kKhMgprZxNc
https://youtu.be/_YmfEoCQvFc
https://youtu.be/lTtlAV61vak
https://youtu.be/gaiQipc64_M
Preaches anti-transgenderism in evangelical sermon
https://youtu.be/ssDIITAuVzg

Unlike in the George Floyd case, this case will not have big international repercussion. Because the Great Media is made of shitskins and they hate the White Race.

Don't let her death be in vain, white brothers.

- - - Death of Iryna Zarutska - - -..............

>>515437937 (OP)
immediately swept under the rug, then you wait till the next killer is actually democrat

>>515442243
>Got a single source to back any of that up that isn't some random person after the fact?
>So anyway, his roommate came out after the fact and is making all these claims

Do you wanna do this game for Crooks too?

Sorry bro, I'm gonna TrustTheScience™ and go with the actual physical evidence on this one.

>>515437937 (OP)
Still wouldn't get both left and right back on the yidsraeli plantation. Think harder cuck.

>>515441169
Cope

>>515441924
There are literal videos of him at church on stage ranting about the gays and abortions. Now answer my question. Walk me through your entire theory about how he was a leftist. Put me in his shoes and explain what he was trying to do.

>>515442972
Use Google you lazy faggot.

>>515442972
>I'm gonna TrustTheScience™ and go with the actual physical evidence
*Only look at the physical evidence that aligns with your priors.

Anyway it's cool how you don't comment on the evangelical sermon at all, either.

>>515443357
If you can't see why an old democrat would take issue with the current democrat's stance on fags and trannies, you're not a particularly smart person.

>>515443720
Yup. Sure sounds like he wanted to kill democrats.
Now about that whole "He was a republican" thing we were talking about? Can we get back to that part?

Then suddenly it really was AI and a glownigger OP. Conservicucks gole.s don't live in reality.

>>515441169
Tim Walz would not appoint a republican, especially in Minnesota.

>>515437937 (OP)
it's more likely than you think

>>515443771
>Old Democrat
Except he was registered to vote as a Republican in 2004.

And even if he hated LGBT as one of the rare Dems who do, it doesn't explain his very anti abortion views and massive collection of guns. There's a mountain of evidence the dude is conservative.

Am I shadow banned

>>515444777
2004 was 20 years ago, anon.
>There's mountain of evidence!!!
Okay, can we see it?. Currently we have him with democrat paraphernalia.

>>515444407
To a nonpartisan 60-member unpaid advisory board

>>515441745
And the only democrat he killed was a democrat who made the deciding vote on a bill, the ONLY democrat who voted the same as the republicans.

>>515440844
I have great news for you. You're a leftist so therefore you are. Just like think a man can be a woman. You're wrong on every issue, can't win an argument, and will never win an election again. Make perfect sense why you all seethe so hard and resort to violence. Desperate chuds with nothing to lose, because your minds are already gone.

>>515445113
Do you think the sermon was AI generated?

-We confirmed he was a registered Republican in 2004.
-We can also confirm he held strong anti-abortion and anti-lgbt views in 2023 due to his sermon.

When was he a liberal? Because he was appointed to a nonpartisan unpaid 60-member board?

>>515445694
>the only democrat he killed
He killed two. Besides, if he was a rapid leftist it would make more sense to just murder Republicans.

>>515445694
And the other Democrat he nearly shot to death along with his wife voted in opposition to Hortman. Did he shoot them less hard because of that, you fucking retard?

>>515446091
The sermon where he declared his political affiliation to the republican party?
No, I must have missed that one. Can you post it again?

I remember him ranting about trannies and gays. But plenty of old democrats do that. Curiously, 91% of democrats register some level of religious affinity, and so views like "You shouldn't kill babies and fuck dudes" aren't all that uncommon.

>>515437937 (OP)
anyone who actually believes the fag on the left was Trump's actual shooter is actually retarded, or just a shill here.

>>515438058
Kirk was part of that disinfo campaign so in his honor, we should spread disinfo that his killer was a far right groyper.

>>515446479
So you think he was a religious and hated trannies, but was still a far left Democrat who was so loyal to the Dems he shot two lawmakers for voting with Republicans on a bill. Also his friends and family are lying about him being a Republican for keks. Isn't healthcare free in the UK? Get your meds.

>>515447540
Sure why not. I don't know about "Far Left", but clearly he supported the cause if he was willing to kill any democrats who stepped away from the party line and carry around a bunch of protest material relating to democrat causes.

>>515447837
JOHN HOFFMAN VOTED WITH THE DEMOCRATS AND GOT SHOT YOU DENSE FUCKING IDIOT

>>515447837
Have you considered his motive was irrelevant to how they voted, considering he had a hit list of other Dems. He has no history of supporting Dem causes.

>>515438302
that’s why it’s a hypothetical question dipshit

>>515446479
You're telling me he was one of the very rare democrats who was anti-abortion and anti-lgbt, but was also at the same time supposedly so strongly pro-medicaid-for-illegals that he'd commit murder over it?

>91% of democrats register some level of religious affinity
White evangelicals specifically are like a 90% Republican voting bloc.

Saying he had the flyers when he did the murders cause he was a liberal is like saying he was a policeman working for the Minnesota police force because he wore a cop uniform when he did the murders.

>>515437937 (OP)
It’ll be pushed under the rug and forgotten in a day, but also whenever it comes up rightslugs will assume/claim it was a liberal.
That’s what happened with Dump.

>>515448113
The fact that we still have shills parroting this shit months after it came out he was a deep conservative is a testament to how much Charlie deserved this.

>>515438058
>/pol/ would deny it like they denied the Minnesota shooter was a conservative

so conservatives are shooting themselves?

>>515448113
>>515448226

Yeah, it's weird he did that, but I mean he had a bunch of democrat stuff in his vehicle so I mean what's there to say?

We can speculate all day on why a guy with a bunch of democrat party material decided to kill 2 members of the same party as the one the material supported.
But, I think ultimately the fact he had a car full of protest material against Trump probably indicates he didn't like Trump.

>>515448373
We can check the records of police service and see he wasn't a member of the police service though.
I'm the one asking you to prove he's a republican here and you're just continually fumbling over "He didn't like the gays" and "He was christian", neither of which mean somebody is a member of the republican party.
What I'm saying is "We found him with a bunch of material that supports a democrat party cause, so he probably believed in that stuff."
You've thus far failed to disprove that, as nothing you've said is a disqualify for somebody being a democrat supporter and instead some conspiracy theory about him actually being an evil republican (Which there's no actual evidence of) who intended to false-flag the democrat party by murdering two democrat lawmakers?

>>515449323
You HAVE to be ragebaiting. You cannot possibly be a real, adult human being. I have asked you twice already, please walk me through your exact theory for why Vance Boelter had “No Kings” signs in his cars wirh the protests being scheduled for the morning after his killing spree. Please walk us through your theory.
>>515448429
I have never voted in any election, but as a rational person, I will especially never vote for a Republican due to the fact that they literally just cover the ears and cry when confronted with the truth.

>>515438085
>Targeted exclusively Dems
>Killed exclusively Dems
>Overwhelming evidence he was a hardline MAGA faggot
> But he worked for the government! A DEM government! Therefore he was a DEM

Fuck you people are retarded. 1000% you still think there was no violence or breaking into the capital on Jan 6 cus you saw some people walk between some ropes.

>>515437937 (OP)
Groypers are lefties larping as right wing. Nick is gay and you CANNOT be a gay right winger.

>>515449796
I've already told you.
>Hmm Tomorrow, I shall own that chud Trump by standing in the street chanting No kings over and over again.
>Wait, that bitch Hortman voted along side Republicunts?
>I'ma kill that bitch right fucking now.

And that's how it goes.

>>515438225
They’ll memory hole it like everything else that makes them look bad, then the next shooting they’ll start up with the same exact rhetoric.

>>515449323
This isn't even "democrat party material", they're not even fliers. His friends and family already confirmed he supported Trump, so it's possible he was attempting an ill conceived false flag that you still managed to fall for.
Literally everything about this guy points to right wing and your grasping is embarrassing.

>>515450172
And he shot Hoffman because…?

>>515450172
Except that doesn't track with any record of his behavior.

>>515450366
>His friends said it after the fact.
Yeah bro, that totally confirms it. Let's just ignore the physical evidence because Mark heard what sounded like a Trump broadcast through the wall one day, and that means he's a MAGA extremist.

>>515449323
>Murdering Democrats: not evidence that he was a Republican
>Had anti-Trump fliers: definitive proof he was a Democrat
Please tell me I'm misunderstanding your logic here.

>We can check the records of police service and see he wasn't a member of the police service though
Much like how we can find he had no donation history to Dems or democratic primary voting history or friends who claimed he was a Dem? But we can easily find all of the exact opposite?

And I forgot to mention earlier but he also worked in the oil and gas industry so that's another ideological issue he probably doesn't align with the democratic party on.

Really, why would this guy *ever* vote democratic? He doesn't align with Democrats on any fucking issue whatsoever. Unless you really, truly believe he went to all these lengths because he's the most diehard medicaid-for-illegals single issue voter in the history of the world.

>>515450562
>Had anti-Trump fliers: definitive proof he was a Democrat
Incorrect.
Is said he "Probably believed it" and that there no was no evidence he was actually a republican or MAGA guy.
I'm still waiting on proof of either, but you seem to want to avoid that point.

>>515450172
horrible theory anon it makes your cope look worse

>>515450427
Maybe he just figured once you're in for a penny, you may as well be in for a pound I guess.

If I had to guess, he was probably a little crazy. Thus the whole murdering two people thing?

>>515439989
ABLOO ABLOO
>regardless of if the suggestion comes from the left or right
You just want to ban guns. Admit it.

I'll admit i want to ban niggers/troons

>>515440786
If only they also are celebrating it like it is some victory. Predditors are nectarines broken retards.

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>>515450943
Why would he murder Democrats over Republicans? None of this makes sense and your only cope is suggesting his friends and family were lying about his political leanings for giggles.

>>515438982
An AMerican conservative, that is, a ZIonist rube, would not target Charlie Kirk.

>>515450172
Yes, this is how politics works. Of course.
>>515450943
>haha anyone that kills a bunch of democrats, expresses clearly conservative views, and has a hit list full of democrats is just a little silly it’s not that deep

>>515451308
I guess it's easier to kill democrats? He got two of them.

Well anon, I'm not an FBI investigator, it's not really my job. But given you've refused to engage with what I was saying and continually trying to make this into a choose your own adventure mystery, I may as well have some fun with it.

But, if you do have any actual evidence he was a republican, I'm still curious to see it!

>>515437937 (OP)
Memory holed

>>515438058
Hey fucking retard, pol isn't one person with a set point of view. Besides, the minnesota guy that you fags love to bring up knew the people he murdered on a personal and professional level, because no one else who lives there has ever heard of any of them

>>515450769
>waiting on proof of either
-Registered Republican in 2004
-Roommate and childhood friend said he liked Trump and disliked Dems
-Holds zero views that align him with the democratic party, holds many that align him with republicans
-he also, you know, showed zero interest in killing Republicans despite the fact he was supposedly a leftist.

>>515450943
I'm beginning to think this is bait

>>515451554
https://minnesotareformer.com/2025/06/17/vance-boelter-voted-in-2024-minnesota-republican-presidential-primary-records-show/
He was a registered Republican. Now kneel and say you're sorry for being willfully retarded.

>>515452036
Being registered anything is meaningless.
Fucking Richard Spencer is a democrat.
Don't be a retard.

>>515451874
So basically
>Was registered as a republican over 20 years ago.
>Had some random nobodies make claims about him, a notion that has been historically proved as pointless noise
>Has some religious views (If you have evidence of more of his views, particularly on things like the economy, perhaps immigration or other issues?)
>Only killed 2 people, and we know democrats are better at killing people???

Wow gee anon, you're right. That totally disproves the physical evidence.
Sorry bro. Like I said. Trust The Science.

>>515451874
>Registered Republican in 2004
>operation chaos - rush limbaugh
this midwit take that:
WELL HE REGISTERED THIS PARTY, SO HE MUST BE THAT AFFILIATION

lol you people are dumbasses

>>515452610
>Ask for proof he was a Republican
>Get proofs
>Move goalpost
Yeah you're trolling.

>>515453263
Literally none of that is proof of being a republican anon.

It implies he might be, sure.
But so does having a bunch of democrat paraphernalia in your car, and apparently that doesn't count either.

>>515437937 (OP)
goypers aren't fat right, they are radical leftists. they shill for andrew yang, kangye and other faggotry, never once have they supported anything right wing. to call them right wing is just delusional. nick fuentes is absolutely obsessed with hating charlie kirk, he incited this violence and should spend the rest of his life in adx florence. declare goypers as a terrorist organization, hunt these spics down and deport them to africa

>>515453585
>nick fuentes is absolutely obsessed with hating charlie kirk,
He's already had someone try to assassinate him just last year, he must be truly shook over this. Any non-schizo leftist would have seen him as a much juicier target and he knows it. His security detail just quadrupled, for sure.

>>515453562
Charlie Kirk couldn’t have been killed by a leftist because there’s no way a leftist would ever go to a Charlie Kirk event

>>515454141
It was at a university, where the most intelligent and principled people are to be found - you know, leftists.

>>515454374
I think you missed the point he was making

>>515438982
Groypers came into existence by peacefully debating at colleges Kirk years ago. Kirk is the last person Nick wanted dead.

>>515454141
He''ll arrest him driving a Prius clad in pride flags and niggas will be saying it doesn't count because he only dated white guys so he was clearly a racist.

>>515445962
NPC-coded poster

>>515437937 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spEs-c6mMjc&ab_channel=BogMan69

>>515437937 (OP)
That doesnt make any sense. If you target those adjacent to you instead of your true enemies I dont believe your stated intentions.

>>515439989
Is that the military vet who was on the run for like a week or whatever? Fuck man I can't keep up either.

>>515437937 (OP)
More scrutiny