Thread 515816136

Dear /pol/:

> The Israel today is biblical Israel.
> Modern Jews are biblical Jews.
> The church is not Jews/Israel.
> Jews do not run the world.
> Every conspiracy you think is Jewish is actually the Pope's doing.
> You take the Talmud out of context. It's essentially a transcript of Rabbis debating each other.
> If you're Christian, your religion originates from Judaism and the Old Testament is still valid (Matt. 5:17).
> If you're Muslim, you're worshipping a false god but nonetheless your religion would not exist if not for Judaism.
> If you're enjoying modern technological luxuries, thank the Jews. If you reject technology and embrace nature, the God of the Jews created it.
> So fundamentally, the west only exists because of Jews.
> And yes, Israel is a valid state (Deut. 30:1-5).

If you are Christian and listen to heretics that claim modern Israel isn't biblical Israel, or they say that Christians replaced the Jews, you are in error.

I rebuke anyone who disagrees with me.

With love - John 3:16 KJV
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

>>515816136 (OP)
OP is a faggot
Talmudic jew is not the biblical jew
you fucking retard

its afraid

>>515816230
>OP is a faggot
>Talmudic jew is not the biblical jew
>you fucking retard

Okay, then tell me the difference between Jews today, and Jews from the first century?

Also, define what the Talmud is.

>>515816136 (OP)
>I rebuke anyone who disagrees with me.
I hate the way you people type as if you clearly believe in your brain damaged minds that you are better than everyone else. But you forgot an important scripture, [jews are the enemy of all men] 1 thessalonians 2:15

Nice try, you disgusting piece of shit.

>>515816136 (OP)
Shed the asian foreskin cult. Embrace white heritage

>The Israel today is biblical Israel.

It's not. Israel was destroyed in 720 BC and was never reconstituted.

>Modern Jews are biblical Jews.

They aren't. The biblical jews have basically nothing in common with modern jews genetically or religiously. Just read the Book of Leviticus if you doubt me. What jew follows any of those sacrificial guidelines today?

>Jews do not run the world.

Just the west

>Every conspiracy you think is Jewish is actually the Pope's doing.

The popes simp for jews.

>> You take the Talmud out of context

No context makes pic related ok

>>515816446
>I hate the way you people type as if you clearly believe in your brain damaged minds that you are better than everyone else.

Nowhere did I say that.

> But you forgot an important scripture, [jews are the enemy of all men] 1 thessalonians 2:15

Taken out of context. The passage refers to those who were persecuting the Thessalonicans. You cannot make the claim that, in this context, it refers to every Jew everywhere. It does not fit your antisemitic context of painting Jews as the archenemy.

> Nice try, you disgusting piece of shit.

Very Christlike of you.

I don't think most of the jews now are clea for direct descendants of the isrealites in the first testament. For one, the light skinned ones literally look too European and eastern European. I thought they don't really mix with outside populations as much, so why do they look so freaking eastern European? We're talking about coming straight from a hot tropical place, souls they really be so fair and light skinned? And that's only speaking about the ashekanzi, I won't even bother to go into detail about the rest.

>>515816380
talmud is the written pharisees but it still follows the same rules the pharisees had (can be renounced and reinterpreted by rabbi)
jews of today are back trying to build the 3rd temple
jews in 100ad had just lost their 2nd temple for being disgusting rats, once again.

The jew is still just as dysgenic but completely different

>>515816683
>It's not. Israel was destroyed in 720 BC and was never reconstituted.

Modern Israel is biblical Israel. It is a fulfillment of Bible prophecy.

> They aren't. The biblical jews have basically nothing in common with modern jews genetically or religiously. Just read the Book of Leviticus if you doubt me. What jew follows any of those sacrificial guidelines today?

Firstly, there are many ethnic Jews who worship the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Messianic Jews who are no longer bound by the law, but worship Christ, are still Jewish.

Secondly, there are sects of Judaism today that adhere strictly to old teachings. Because they don't make sacrifices doesn't take away their identity as Jews.

> Just the west

False.

> The popes simp for jews.

False.

> No context makes pic related ok

Define what the Talmud is, in your own words. I'll check for AI generated text if you have the balls to reply.

>>515816136 (OP)
The Jews of today have no relation to the ancient Jews before 70 AD. The ancient Jews pre-Seige of Jerusalem are extinct now.

Jehovah allowed the Roman Empire to annihilate them during the Seige of Jerusalem in 70AD. The ancient Jews went extinct after the Seige of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Modern Jews and modern Israel are sterile.

What made Israelites unique from all other races/nationalities in the world was their lineage. They could almost all trace their lineage back to Abraham, Isaac, and Israel. Jesus lineage in Matthew and Luke went as far back to Adam himself. In 70AD the Romans ransacked Jerusalem in what is known as the Seige of Jerusalem of 70AD where the Romans attacked Jerusalem and destroyed the temple and all archived genealogies. After this, no Israelite on Earth could trace their lineages back anymore and all true Israelites disbanded throughout the Earth. The Age of Israel was over.

The 1st Century Christians were not concerned with liberating Israel. This was obvious because Jesus predicting the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD at the hands of The Roman Empire. This was God letting the Jews know he was done with them. Not only did they destroy the temple but all the records of Jewish genealogy going back to Abraham himself. No Jew on Earth could prove their lineage after that anymore. The Age of Israel was over and remained over to this day.

The (((Israel))) and (((Jews))) that you know of today are not the continuation of that Israel up above. They are descendants of Talmudism which descendend from Babylonian Mysticism. The Israel and Jews you are resisting today are the Synagogue of Satan. (((Christians))) are also a part of them as well.

>>515816946
>I don't think most of the jews now are clea for direct descendants of the isrealites in the first testament. For one, the light skinned ones literally look too European and eastern European. I thought they don't really mix with outside populations as much, so why do they look so freaking eastern European? We're talking about coming straight from a hot tropical place, souls they really be so fair and light skinned? And that's only speaking about the ashekanzi, I won't even bother to go into detail about the rest.

They're still Jewish.

>talmud is the written pharisees but it still follows the same rules the pharisees had (can be renounced and reinterpreted by rabbi)

Correct.

> jews of today are back trying to build the 3rd temple

This is prophesied to happen.

> jews in 100ad had just lost their 2nd temple for being disgusting rats, once again.

You call them disgusting rats as if they wronged you personally.

> The jew is still just as dysgenic but completely different

Tell me in your own words how Jews (collectively) are "dysgenic." Back it up with evidence.

>>515817244
Actually it could have gone back all the way to Nebuchadnezzar, most likely

>>515817381
>Tell me in your own words how Jews (collectively) are "dysgenic." Back it up with evidence.
go look up the definition of the word you fucking moron

if you're saying they're not dysgenic then you're contradicting your lie that they are the same after 2000 years

>>515817244
>The Jews of today have no relation to the ancient Jews before 70 AD. The ancient Jews pre-Seige of Jerusalem are extinct now.
> After this, no Israelite on Earth could trace their lineages back anymore and all true Israelites disbanded throughout the Earth. The Age of Israel was over.

That's patently false. Scripture says a remnant of Jews will remain (Romans 11). If you claim to be Christian yet say there are no remaining Jews, you are contradicting the Word of God.

> Jehovah allowed the Roman Empire to annihilate them during the Seige of Jerusalem in 70AD. The ancient Jews went extinct after the Seige of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Modern Jews and modern Israel are sterile.

Incorrect. The ancient Jews are not extinct.

> This was God letting the Jews know he was done with them.

If you mean this in the context of saying Jews have no special place in future events in eschatology, you are wrong.

> The Israel and Jews you are resisting today are the Synagogue of Satan.

Explain this position with scripture.

You sound like a Bryan Denlinger follower and it's pathetic.

>>515817601
>go look up the definition of the word you fucking moron

I asked you to do it. You're refusing?

>if you're saying they're not dysgenic then you're contradicting your lie that they are the same after 2000 years

I didn't say that. I asked you to explain yourself, and now you're attacking me rather than defending yourself.

If they are really biblical jews, that makes them even more of an enemy. Is it really the point you are trying to shill, zhid?

>>515817754
>If they are really biblical jews, that makes them even more of an enemy. Is it really the point you are trying to shill, zhid?

Explain why that makes them an enemy?

>>515817753
>defending yourself.
the morality of the jew is not up for question, you've had thousands of years and multiple scriptures to prove just how abjectly unnatural and DYSGENIC you are.

>>515816136 (OP)
Netanyahu decided that Kirk would be more useful as a martyr for zionism and ZOG. There are several reasons for this recent false-flag murder:

1. Kirk was beginning to back away from his fervid Israel First policies. Killing him sends a message to other clued-in zionist influencers who might be thinking of softening their pro-Israel stance.

2. His murder provokes an immediate reaction on the left for gun control.

3. His murder provokes an immediate reaction on the right for supporting the surveillance state and using Palantir to put lefties in camps.

4. It IMMEDIATELY quelled the White racial consciousness that was rising after the stabbing of that Ukrainian woman.

5. Israel is about to finish off Gaza before France can recognize Palestine at the UN General Assembly later this month.

6. It distracts everyone from Israel's bombing of Qatar.

Every good psyop accomplishes several things at once. This one does at least six things for Israel's benefit, maybe more.

>>515817381
Well, yes...they're still jewish

>>515817814
If you have actually read the Bible, then you know that they were God's chosen people but went astray. God tried to correct them by sending his son to them. They rejected God once againg and killed his son who was the messanger. That is exactly why they were genocided by God through Roman hands. The enemy of God is my enemy, no questions

Israel did 9/11.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4qwfH7QVpXM

https://archive.org/details/TexeMarrsWithGuestVictorThorn-TheZionistPlottersBehindThe9-11

Israel has a long history of using false-flag attacks against us.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
>The Lavon affair was a failed Israeli covert operation, codenamed Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the summer of 1954. As part of a false flag operation, a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian-, American-, and British-owned civilian targets: cinemas, libraries, and American educational centers. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, "unspecified malcontents", or "local nationalists"...

And let's not forget the USS Liberty:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YZYjRREqUF0

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JITBsNMcN8A

Israel's attack on the USS Liberty was a failed attempt at a false-flag operation. The plan was to sink the Liberty with no survivors and blame it on the Egyptians so that the U.S. would bomb Cairo and send in troops. Fortunately, the Liberty survived (but with 34 dead and 171 wounded). Unfortunately, shabbos goy President Lyndon Johnson (whose mistress, Mathilde Krim, was a Mossad agent) made sure the entire incident was swept under the rug, and the crew of the Liberty was threatened with court martial if they spoke to the press about what happened.

Here are some of the people who helped plan the 9/11 false-flag operation and carry it out: Ehud Barak, Ariel Sharon, Binyamin Netanyahu, Dov Zakheim, Michael Chertoff, Philip Zelikow, Ehud Olmert, Larry Silverstein, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and George W. Bush, along with the scores of Israeli operatives arrested by the FBI but ordered released by Chertoff and returned to Israel where they were lionized.

Nuke Tel Aviv as payback for 9/11 and give what's left of "Israel" back to the Palestinians.

>>515817870
> the morality of the jew is not up for question

Why not? Why are you blanketing Jews collectively rather than examining them on a person-by-person basis?

> you've had thousands of years and multiple scriptures to prove just how abjectly unnatural and DYSGENIC you are.

I am not Jewish.

Secondly, what if a Jew converted to the Messianic belief and followed Jesus, yet still remained a Jew. Would you also consider him dysgenic as well?

Israel runs child sex-trafficking rings for blackmailing our politicians. Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, and Les Wexner were all working for Mossad, which is Israel's version of the CIA.

>>515816136 (OP)
This is the truth. Spam it every single time. Whole post is legitimate

>>515816136 (OP)
>> If you're Christian, your religion originates from Judaism

Christianity originates with Hellenistic philosophy

>If you're Muslim,

See above

>If you're enjoying modern technological luxuries

Modern technology originates with the Greeks and their development of the natural sciences.

>the west only exists because of Jews

The west only exists becuase of the Greco-Romans.

> Israel is a valid state

Israel is invalid, and according to the bible even Yahweh thought so saying the old covenant was broken

Jerimiah 31:30-33

>>515817921
>Netanyahu decided that Kirk would be more useful as a martyr for zionism and ZOG. There are several reasons for this recent false-flag murder:

Back up all of that with evidence.

>>515818001

> If you have actually read the Bible, then you know that they were God's chosen people but went astray. God tried to correct them by sending his son to them. They rejected God once againg and killed his son who was the messanger. That is exactly why they were genocided by God through Roman hands. The enemy of God is my enemy, no questions

The Jews are not the enemy of God, if you mean by "enemy" that God seeks to eliminate Jews and has turned his back on them completely.

Prophesy tells us Jews will one day accept Christ en masse. And multiple other verses (Romans 11:17-24) paint the Jews as still having importance.

Have you actually read the Bible?

>>515818021
>Israel did 9/11.

I've looked into this conspiracy and no evidence exists. What you call "evidence" is circumstantial at best, and is often twisted to fit an antisemitic narrative. Prove that Israel did 9/11.

>>515818298
Yes, God turned his back on jews completely. It is exactly what I am saying. Provide any argument why it isn't the case. Those prophesies are phony and church has agreed on that for more than a 1000 years already. Maybe read all the books that are part of the Bible. I have actually done that, have you?

>>515817123
>Modern Israel is biblical Israel.

Wrong, Israel is broken and gone even according to the Bible

Jerimiah 31:30-33

>Firstly, there are many ethnic Jews

There are no ethnic jews left who exist, only larpers. The people most closely related to ancient Israelites are Christians of the Levant.

>False.

true

> there are sects of Judaism today that adhere strictly to old teachings

And it doesn't matter since even according to the bible the old covenant is gone.

>Define what the Talmud is, in your own words.

A giant collection of ancient rabbinical jewish schizo ramblings that jews actually believe to be legitimate commentaries on the torah and tanakh.

>>515816136 (OP)
Western civilizations origins are in classical Greece and Rome, the west exists because of them

>>515818086
>Israel runs child sex-trafficking rings for blackmailing our politicians. Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, and Les Wexner were all working for Mossad, which is Israel's version of the CIA.

Jeffrey Epstein ran a child sex trafficking ring. He was one man.

Prove the Mossad had anything to do with it. Show me evidence beyond circumstantial events twisted to fit your narrative.

>>515818242

> Christianity originates with Hellenistic philosophy

Some aspects of writing and argument were inspired by Hellenistic philosophy. Prove with evidence, though, that the entirety of the religion originated with it (hint: you can't).

> Modern technology originates with the Greeks and their development of the natural sciences.

If you're using a cell phone, thank the Jews. If you're using stainless steel, thank the Jews. If you're a Christian, thank the Jews. If you're living in America, thank the Jews.

> The west only exists becuase of the Greco-Romans.

It exists because of Judeo-Christianity.

> Israel is invalid, and according to the bible even Yahweh thought so saying the old covenant was broken

Firstly, you misspelled Jeremiah.

Secondly, you took this verse out of context. It references the upcoming conversion of Jews en masse to Christianity. It does not refute or destroy the Old Testament or the laws therein; rather, Christ teaches to write the law on your hearts.

Thirdly, if Jews/Israel was invalid, it wouldn't be referenced numerous times in Revelation.

>>515816136 (OP)
>that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Big problem chief, modern kikes HATE Christ, their entire identity is based around antagonizing Christ and Christians lmao, nice try though but it won't work because kikes HATE Christ.

>>515818496
Kill every last white Christian who espouses this. We have the full support of God to do this until Amalek is dead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilGahIwQEQ0&list=RDv0nmHymgM7Y&index=2

No more games

>>515818677
There's no such thing as "judeo-christianity" Christians follow Christ. Jews blaspheme against Christ and El Elyon by saying he's boiling in manure. If anything at least Muslims accept Christ is in heaven next to El Elyon.
Jews worship the god of the physical realm not the most High.

>>515818435

> Yes, God turned his back on jews completely. It is exactly what I am saying. Provide any argument why it isn't the case.


Romans 11:26.

> Those prophesies are phony and church has agreed on that for more than a 1000 years already.

Prove that with evidence.

> Maybe read all the books that are part of the Bible. I have actually done that, have you?

You're either lying, because if you had read the Bible and understood it you wouldn't be arguing with me. Or you're telling the truth, and you lack the wisdom to comprehend it because you're an apostate.

>>515818496
>true

Prove it.

> And it doesn't matter since even according to the bible the old covenant is gone.

False.

> A giant collection of ancient rabbinical jewish schizo ramblings that jews actually believe to be legitimate commentaries on the torah and tanakh.

Wrong. Talmud is a collection of arguments between Rabbis and interpretation of Jewish law. You resorting to calling it "schizo ramblings" only proves you're ignorant to what Talmud actually is. Your stupidity proved God right.

>Western civilizations origins are in classical Greece and Rome, the west exists because of them

The west exists because of Judeo-Christianity.

>>515818677
>Some aspects of writing and argument were inspired by Hellenistic philosophy

The concept of the logos itself originates with Hellenistic philosophy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logos

>If you're using a cell phone, thank the Jews.

Jews didn't invent cellphones or stainless steel, retard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel#History

Almost all jewish claims of invention are fake.

>It exists because of Judeo-Christianity.


The west predates Christianity, and Judea was just a tiny backwater within the Roman Empire of little importance.

> It references the upcoming conversion of Jews en masse to Christianity.

It references Yahweh denying the original covenant with Israel meaning every promise to Israel, Abraham, Moses, etc is now null and void. So all your jewish worship is based on nothing even if you are only basing your beliefs on the bible.

>>515818885
>kike can't suppress his bloodlust of God's true chosen (Christians) even for a couple of comments
Your nature betrays you, we know you by your actions, you have outlived yourselves.

>>515816136 (OP)
Modern Israel is just the apostolic churchs aka the catholics and orthodox and not you kikedom, you muttoids must end your lives imediately

>>515817675
Honestly the opinion of your christgolems are the same as shit, irrelevant to the whole history of christianity

>>515818809
>Big problem chief, modern kikes HATE Christ, their entire identity is based around antagonizing Christ and Christians lmao, nice try though but it won't work because kikes HATE Christ.

Some Jews hate Christ, some Jews are indifferent, and some Jews have given their life to Christ. You gave an opinion which blanketed an entire race, then portrayed it as fact.

>>515818946
> There's no such thing as "judeo-christianity" Christians follow Christ

And Christ has his roots as the Jewish messiah. Second Temple Judaism is still part of Judaism.

>Jews blaspheme against Christ and El Elyon by saying he's boiling in manure.

Source?

And if you cite a passage from Talmud, keep in mind that Talmud is debates between numerous Rabbis. It is not the same structure as inspired scripture.

> If anything at least Muslims accept Christ is in heaven next to El Elyon.

Muslims say Christ was a prophet, but refute his divinity or status as Messiah. They are in error.

> Jews worship the god of the physical realm not the most High.

Jews worship the God of the Christians, they simply do not accept Jesus as Messiah.

>>515818990
>Prove it.


list of times popes shilled for jews

>False.

true

> Talmud is a collection of arguments

Wrong it's interpretations and saying of various rabbis, some of which contradict. But all interpretations are seen as valid meaning all of the pedophilia in the Talmud is implicitly supported (if not explicitly considering all the abuse that goes on in orthodox jewish communities) by jews.

>The west exists because of Judeo-Christianity.

The West predates jews and Christianity.

>>515818990
>Romans 11:26
This verse is referencing the Old Testament, but the old covenant is gone. It is no longer aplicable. Sorry.

>Prove that with evidence.
First link, all the books that are parts of the Bible. Old Testament is basically a religious history book about what happened before coming of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
https://www.usccb.org/offices/new-american-bible/books-bible

>You're either lying bla bla bla
>Either I am right or you are wrong.
More jewish pilpul

>>515819258
If jews followed Christ they would be Christian. Easy as. Modern Jews are the synagogue of Satan
Your words won't work deceiver.

>>515819032
>The concept of the logos itself originates with Hellenistic philosophy.

Correct, but you said "Christianity originates with Hellenistic philosophy," which is false.

> Jews didn't invent cellphones or stainless steel, retard.

The attached image is known antisemitic propaganda. Nonetheless, Jews invented both stainless steel and cellphones.

> The west predates Christianity, and Judea was just a tiny backwater within the Roman Empire of little importance.

1. The west predates Christianity, but the west does not predate Judaism.

2. Judea was a tiny backwater, but it still had significance to God. The result of Christ's coming has changed the world, far more than Rome ever did.

> It references Yahweh denying the original covenant with Israel meaning every promise to Israel, Abraham, Moses, etc is now null and void.

You clearly didn't read the context of the scripture. You prove your own ignorance.

>>515819148

That sentence makes no sense.

>>515819257
> Honestly the opinion of your christgolems are the same as shit, irrelevant to the whole history of christianity

Tell me how it's irrelevant.

>>515819259

Yet other Popes have actively targeted Jews and conspired against them. What's your point?

> Wrong it's interpretations and saying of various rabbis, some of which contradict.

I never said otherwise.

> But all interpretations are seen as valid meaning all of the pedophilia in the Talmud is implicitly supported (if not explicitly considering all the abuse that goes on in orthodox jewish communities) by jews.

This is false. Not everything in Talmud is seen as valid, all the time, by every Jew.

> The West predates jews and Christianity.

It does not. Define what the "west" is (and not your opinion, but fact).

>>515816136 (OP)
Galatians 3:16

>>515816136 (OP)
Modern Israel is not biblical Israel.
Kill yourself for such active blatant heresy

>>515816380
There is no animal sacrifice, there is no temple. Rabbinic talmudism is a different religion and you should get raped by a great dane

>>515816843
You will burn in hell and it'll be funny because no one will help you or mourn you. Yes this is Christian of me to tell you this. The truth is Christian. Rejecting Christ earns you hell

>>515819367
>This verse is referencing the Old Testament, but the old covenant is gone. It is no longer aplicable. Sorry.

So, the old covenant is meaningless (and by extension, according to you, the Jews are no longer relevant). But yet Jews/Israel are referenced multiple times as specific entities separate from Christians?

> First link, all the books that are parts of the Bible. Old Testament is basically a religious history book about what happened before coming of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

I asked you to prove your claim that the "prophecies are phonies." So you're claiming to be a Christian yet refute prophecy?

> https://www.usccb.org/offices/new-american-bible/books-bible

The NASB is an inaccurate translation. The KJV AV 1611 is the only inspired translation in the English language.

> More jewish pilpul

You seem very petty now, rather than debating me. Are you accepting defeat in this argument?

>>515819535
> If jews followed Christ they would be Christian. Easy as.

They would be Christian and Jews at the same time. Cough cough Messianic Jews.

> Modern Jews are the synagogue of Satan

Modern Jews? Or do you mean a specific sect in Judaism? Do you not know that there are Christian Jews?

> Your words won't work deceiver.

They are, because several people in this thread have been unable to defeat my arguments and resorted to acting emotional and childish.

>>515819977
>Galatians 3:16
The context of this verse refers to the covenant promises for the Jews extend also to Christians (similar to the grafting in of the branch). So actually, this verse actually proves the Jews relevance in modern times.

>>515820077
>Modern Israel is not biblical Israel.
Yes it is. :)

> Kill yourself for such active blatant heresy

God doesn't condone suicide, sorry. You're the only one in heresy here.

>>515820132
> There is no animal sacrifice, there is no temple. Rabbinic talmudism is a different religion and you should get raped by a great dane

Rather than backing up your point with evidence, you resort to violent insults. That's very telling of you.

>>515820189
> You will burn in hell

Lol.

> Yes this is Christian of me to tell you this.

No it's not. You obviously know nothing of Christ or God's Word.

I suggest you seek salvation if you haven't already, before you burn in hell. And if you are saved, ask for the wisdom to see the truth (James 1:5).

> Rejecting Christ earns you hell

Correct. I have never refuted this.

>>515820221
Well, their satanic religion isn't gone. So if something is a different entity from you, it doesn't exist?

>The NASB is an inaccurate translation
I haven't said anything about translations. It is just a list. What are you even arguing about? Have you seen my flag? Why would I subscribe to any english translation If I haven't read it in english? More jewish pilpul

>You seem very petty now
Once again jewish pilpul. You have basically said that you are right no matter what. Humans are subject to failure and thinking wrong. Part of having free will. If you say you are infallible, you say you are God. Once again satanic blasphemy

>>515816136 (OP)
Here's a redpill on the Edomites and true Israel.

>>515820543
No it doesn't Schofield bible cultist.
>Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
The blessings of Abraham end with the Christ. If you believe Jesus is the Christ you would say the covenant with Abraham ends there.
Schofield dispensationalist scum.

>>515819861
>Correct, but you said "Christianity originates with Hellenistic philosophy," which is false.

Jesus Christ being the Logos, the word, is meaningless without Hellenistic philosophy, Jesus being the logos is literally the first verse of John. The concept of the word made flesh couldn't even be a thing without

There's a reason Christian philosophers had to accept the "virtuous pagans" of Hellenistic philosophy because they knew there was no Christianity without Hellenism.

>known antisemitic propaganda

Wrong it's all 100% true and you can only seethe.

> Jews invented both stainless steel and cellphones

lmao

> the west does not predate Judaism

The west predates both

>didn't read the context of the scripture.

The context is that jews misbehaved like always and violated the covenant of their Israelite forefathers losing it forever.

>Yet other Popes have actively targeted Jews

Wrong the catholic church always covered for jews.

>Not everything in Talmud is seen as valid

It's all seen as a potentially valid interpretation which is why the teachings are preserved.

>It does not.

It does

> Define what the "west" is

The civilizations of Europe dating back to the Bronze Age the earliest being the Minoans and Myceneans.

>>515820671
And this is even more important:

>>515816136 (OP)
>The Israel today is biblical Israel
If I named my son Jesus Christ would you worship him?

>>515816380
Romans 11 (Christians replaced Jews)
Galatians 3:39
>29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Christians are Israel.

>>515816136 (OP)
i am the messiah nigger and you're lying.

>>515820221
Messianic Jews are a fringe movement with a wide variety of beliefs. Most Jews and many Christians reject them as heretics.

>>515820614
> I haven't said anything about translations. It is just a list. What are you even arguing about? Have you seen my flag? Why would I subscribe to any english translation If I haven't read it in english? More jewish pilpul

You referenced an NASB translation.

> You have basically said that you are right no matter what.

And so far, I have been.

> Humans are subject to failure and thinking wrong.

Like you're doing right now.

> If you say you are infallible,

I have never said that.

>>515820671
>Here's a redpill on the Edomites and true Israel.

This is proven antisemitic libel.

>>515820781
>No it doesn't Schofield bible cultist.

Tell me why do you attack the Schofield bible?

> The blessings of Abraham end with the Christ. If you believe Jesus is the Christ you would say the covenant with Abraham ends there.

How does this refute the fact that modern Israel is biblical Israel and the modern Jews are biblical Jews?

> Schofield dispensationalist scum.

Love you too <3

>>515820799
> Jesus Christ being the Logos, the word, is meaningless without Hellenistic philosophy, Jesus being the logos is literally the first verse of John. The concept of the word made flesh couldn't even be a thing without

This still doesn't prove that the entirety of Christianity "originates with Hellenistic philosophy." It originates with Judaism. In other words, without there being Jews, there would be no Messiah to save them.

> Wrong it's all 100% true and you can only seethe.

It is not true, and cannot be supported with actual historical records.

> jews misbehaved like always and violated the covenant of their Israelite forefathers losing it forever.

This is false. Chapter and verse?

> Wrong the catholic church always covered for jews.

Wrong again. Search for Cum nimis absurdum.

> It's all seen as a potentially valid interpretation

But that doesn't mean every single Jew, all the time, in every sect of Judaism adheres to every single word of Talmud. Does it?

>>515816136 (OP)
>If you are Christian and listen to heretics that claim modern Israel isn't biblical Israel, or they say that Christians replaced the Jews, you are in error.
>I rebuke anyone that disagrees with me.
Rebukes Matthew 21:43; Romans 9; Romans 11;
The parable of the evil workers in Matthew 21.
>Old law Matt 5:17
Jeremiah 31:31-34, Romans 2:29
Christ fulfilled the Old law.
I pray you find Truth.

>>515820799
>The civilizations of Europe dating back to the Bronze Age the earliest being the Minoans and Myceneans.

These are predated by Noah.

>>515821029
> If I named my son Jesus Christ would you worship him?

No. The man Jesus of Nazareth in the Bible is the son of God and Messiah, not your hypothetical son.

>>515821044
> Romans 11 (Christians replaced Jews)

The verse contradicts your own argument. The Christians are grafted in to Israel's covenant, they do not "replace Jews."

>29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Grafted in.

> Christians are Israel.

You're an idiot.

> Messianic Jews are a fringe movement with a wide variety of beliefs. Most Jews and many Christians reject them as heretics.

Source?

>>515821895
>Matthew 21:43
Doesn't contradict my argument.

> Romans 9
Doesn't contradict my argument. Christians are grafted in, in the context of scripture.

> Romans 11

Doesn't contradict my argument. Christians are grafted in, in the context of Scripture.

> Matthew 21, Jeremiah 31:31-34, Romans 2:29
Doesn't contradict my argument.

Jesus fulfilled the old law. Christians have liberty through Christ, because the law is written on our hearts.

Jews are still Jews and Israel is still Israel, though.

> I pray you find Truth.

No need for that, young brother, but I'll do it for you instead. Either way, I love you.

>>515821717
>It originates with Judaism.

It doesn't the ideals and concepts of Christianity are anathema and contradict Judaism. They are only seen in Hellenistic philosophy.
>cannot be supported with actual historical records.
They're all cited already in the image I posted.
>Chapter and verse?
already cited above
>Search for
search of Sicut Judaeis, the popes always protected jews.
>But that doesn't mean every single Jew
That's not a defense of the Talmud

>>515820671
>Cain kills Abel
>Seth kills Osiris
>Biblical Seth sounds like biblical Seth
>Seth and Cain's children have the same names
>Nothing unusual

>In fact, biblical characters have nothing to do with ordinary people
> "They deem Adam to have been an individual born of male and female like any other human individuals, but they glorify him and say that he was a prophet, the envoy of the moon, who called people to worship the moon. and there are compilations of him on how to cultivate the soil." He noted the claim that Adam came from India, and went on to Babylon.
>>I owe this information to my late friend, Mr. John Hookham Frere, a friend of Canning's and the British Minister at Madrid, a man justly famous for his sense of humour (like Aristophanes and Foote). A Maltese authority told him that the Maltese, when speaking openly of religious matters, used to say: "Everybody knows that Adam was the first man; but we only know that he had fishing-boats." This can only be a Phoenician recollection.
>In fact, biblical genealogy does not apply to ordinary people

>>515821915
There is no contradiction. It says literally they were broken from the true and Christians are saved by their rejection, and they are replaced unless they accept Christ. Hold no enmity towards them less wrath also fall on Christians.
>John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

>>515821717
>You referenced an NASB translation.
Once again, I haven't referenced any translation. I just showed you the list of all the books that are Bible. I told you this clearly. It is the first link in google if you search "list of books in the Bible". Step up your game, rabbi.

>And so far, I have been.
And as I said, more jewish pilpul. Sad

>I have never said that
Yes you did and you know it

God has abandoned you, just as your ill flock abandoned him. Nothing else to talk about here

>>515822151
>It doesn't the ideals and concepts of Christianity are anathema and contradict Judaism. They are only seen in Hellenistic philosophy.

You're obviously either young in the faith, or unsaved. Reconsider what you know.

> They're all cited already in the image I posted.

They are antisemitic fabrications.

> already cited above

But you took them out of context.

> search of Sicut Judaeis, the popes always protected jews.

Cum nimis absurdum was written long after that. So no, the Popes have NOT "always" protected Jews.

> That's not a defense of the Talmud

I'm not defending Talmud. I'm defending Jews and Israel.

> There is no contradiction. It says literally they were broken from the true and Christians are saved by their rejection, and they are replaced unless they accept Christ. Hold no enmity towards them less wrath also fall on Christians.

Whether they are saved or not, Jews are still Jews and have a place in prophecy and God's plan.

They are, for most part, unsaved now. But God is still watching them.

>>515822145
>Doesn't contradict
Matthew 21:43 shows that it was taken from the Jews and given to the Gentiles, and no man can come to God except by Christ.
>Grafted in.
Romans 11:18-19
They are removed and replaced, and the whole purpose is to not be boastful and to usher them to the only point of salvation, which is Christ.
What does it mean if a branch is broken off? How does this compare to the tree that bears bad fruit and is thrown in the fire?

>>515822228
Well, if we talk about religious history, then it is all written even before Greeks, Christians, Egyptians and others. It is all Babylonean history and it had major influence on all religions where All Father is present

>>515822545
>Matthew 21:43 shows that it was taken from the Jews and given to the Gentiles, and no man can come to God except by Christ.

Romans 11 says Christians are grafted into the branch (Israel) covenant. You cherry-pick scripture to fit your antisemitic agenda, context be damned. Typical goyishe Jew-hating behavior.

>>515822545
>Romans 11:18-19
Once again, you cherry-pick verses without considering context. Read what's to the left and right of 18-19.

In fact, read the VERY FIRST FEW VERSES of Romans 11 and get back with me.

>>515821915
>These are predated by Noah.

Noah wasn't jewish, many generations separate Noah from Abraham. In fact Abhram too wasn't jewish, but rather a Mesopotamian. Judaism only begins starting with Judah, son of Israel/Jacob.

>>515822541
>You're obviously either young in the faith, or unsaved.

Nope just 100% correct as were all the Christian thinkers who respected the virtuous pagans.
> antisemitic fabrications.
*entirely accurate
>But you took them out of context.
nope
> So no, the Popes have NOT "always" protected Jews
They have, no pope has ever contradicted Sicut Judaeis.
>. I'm defending Jews and Israel.
The core to jews and modern "Israel" (lol) is the Talmud.
> Jews are still Jews
They have no covenant anymore see the Jeremiah passage already cited. You worship a false people.

>>515822145
If the law is fulfilled, then it is no longer valid, as seen in Jeremiah. The new law is with Israel, which is Christians. The new covenant was made with all Israel and with Juda. It directly contradicts the possibility of the existence of the old law.

>>515822720
I'm not cherrypicking. I showed Jeremiah, and how the grafting would occur. You're the one cherrypicking.

Then read 21.

>>515822757
>Noah wasn't jewish
>many generations separate Noah from Abraham
>(Abraham was jewish)
>Abhram too wasn't jewish
Exodus 3:15 lol

> Nope just 100% correct as were all the Christian thinkers who respected the virtuous pagans.

You claim to be correct yet you're unable to support your claims with hard evidence. You sound just like Bryan Denlinger.

> The core to jews and modern "Israel" (lol) is the Talmud.

But I'm defending Jews and Israel, not Talmud.

> They have no covenant anymore see the Jeremiah passage already cited. You worship a false people.

I worship nobody but the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Romans 11.

>>515822808
> The new law is with Israel, which is Christians.

So, in other words, are you saying that God just so happened to stretch meaning and say Israel = Christians, and not be literal? How much of the bible do you consider not to be literal?

>>515822720
Romans was just Paul being careful when writing to a Jewish audience. In other letters Paul tells the gentile Christians that the Jews are the killers of Christ who will face the wrath of God:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKEVLqSMCaw

/thread

I have to sleep. Most of you here are wrong. Some of you have been right or have at least attempted to debate. A lot of you resorted to insults.

Those of you who resorted to insulting me are an insult to the faith and to /pol/.

Goodnight, and God be with the bretheren here. Please pray for wisdom (James 1:5).

>>515823107
>Exodus 3:15
People OF ISRAEL

There were 12 Tribes of Israel, of which Judah was only one. Abraham was not a jew, but the father of all of Israel through Isaac and Jacob.

How do you not know this?

For Abraham to be a jew he'd have to be a descendent of his own great-grandson, Judah, which is nonsense.

>>515816136 (OP)
> The Israel today is biblical Israel, because of pRoPhEcY
So if I decide that X book is sacred and it is written there that my country owns the entire Middle East, then let it be because it is fulfilling the prophecy that my book prophesied to my people. Absolutely idiotic circular reasoning.

>And yes, Israel is a valid state
It is not, as it is occupying foreign land since 1948. The only thing in he world that allows the survival of that genocidal illegal entity is the US and, once it inevitably falls to its demise, child murderer state won't last one year without being invaded by their neighbors and disappeared for good.

>>515823107
Romans 11 says they are broken from the tree and Christians grafted in. The tree that does not bear good fruit is hewn down and cast into the fire (Matthew 7). The blessing will written on the heart in Jeremiah and is likewise reflected in Romans 2:29. The blessing of Abraham is to the those that belong to Christ (Galatians 3:29; John 14:6)

It is all very literal. What do you think I did not take literally?

The inheritors of Abraham's blessing is according to the new covenant, and he is the sole source of salvation. It's pretty black and white, and the proof of your "cherry-picking" is a single a verse (Matt. 5:17). The old law, additionally, being shown to be fulfilled by the establishment of the New Covenant and Christ as shiloh.