Thread 516632348

If an Irish Catholic converted to Protestantism and became a Unionist, would be accepted by the Northern Irish people?

>>516632348 (OP)
The troubles were way less of a religious-fueled conflict than it was almost a purely racial one. The 'Northern Irish' are Scots/English-born people who were deliberately settled in the region to try to displace the Irish population.

>>516633395
I agree, but I think there’s some nuance.

I read there were some Protestants who were descended of Irish converts. One was Rev. Rutledge Kane. He was the Grandmaster of the Orange Order in his local area and was a member of the Ulster Unionist Council.

There are other examples too.

I agree it’s a mostly racial conflict but I’m curious how a racially Irish Protestant Unionist would he treated? I mean, a lot of Ulster Scots have Irish surnames anyways (they’re 10% Irish on average), so an Irish Protestant might just blend in.

>>516634137
To the point of the original question, see how well all the Anglos of those miserable islands get along, and go from there. The English, Scots, and Welsh can barely tolerate the people they live next to on a good day, and historically look down on their own people from the overseas possessions; at best, you'd be tolerated with mild suspicion.

>>516634559
>all the Anglos of those miserable islands

>>516634692
kek, at least Londonistan is good for a chuckle

>>516634559
> at best, you'd be tolerated with mild suspicion.
This is what I was thinking, too. My post was mostly triggered by seeing a photo of an Orange Order march with an Indian person in attendance and I was stunned that the Order tolerated Indians before the Irish.

I’m curious, though. Why aren’t the Troubles taught as an ethnic conflict when it clearly was? Religion didn’t seem like an actually improvement factor in the IRA or UDF. It really seemed like “Catholic” was just a synonym for “Irish” and “Protestant” was a synonym for “Ulster Scot” .

>>516635442
Probably because it flies in the face of what the British and, by extension, Western Enlightenment societies preach, religion is always the boogie man and the root of all evil, and thus why the past is routinely vilified and progress for the sake of progress is always justified.
It's an easier pill for modernists to swallow and say that religion makes people evil, rather than admit that they were engaged in unscrupulous dealings with a people they've always despised. Deliberate ethnic cleansing and subjugation is a bad look when you're spouting egalitarian nonsense, which is why Bongs are always quick to deflect blame for why the commonwealth is such a shitshow after they lost it.