Thread 516649225

I was raised by a weak father and a mother with BPD. I am 22 went full mute 8-17 and am 24 now. How do I recover from this and if I can?

>>516649225 (OP)
No idea. Do you have a job or social life at all? Even online?

>>516649225 (OP)
Mute? Like you couldn't talk or did you just not want to

Read books and you will be ahead of almost everyone in your generation within a year or two.

>>516649225 (OP)
Swimming classes, picnics one time per week.
Get some seeds and and grow some plants.

>>516649225 (OP)

You're a whiney faggot that can't take responsibility for yourself and suicide is the only way out for people like you. You are beyond any and all help. Kill yourself tonight.

>>516649701
Away from him, adversary!
Captcha R888X

>op says hes mute
>Anons still try to talk to him
Wtf is wrong with you retards?

>>516649225 (OP)
I dated a borderline woman with a son about your age. My best advice I can give you? Join the Army. It gave him the stability and discipline he never got from his mom. It taught him what stable relationship are supposed to look like and what order and consistency are supposed to be. It sucks, I spent 8 years in the Army, I know. But I genuinely think it's one of the only ways to correct a lot of the damage a borderline parent causes.

I'm saying this from a very genuine place, anon. I feel immense empathy for what you went through. I saw how fucked up it made her son, and knowing her I can't even imagine how traumatic and miserable it was to grow up under her. I promise you, it's not to late. You can find normalcy and happiness. You can heal from the shit she did to you. She didn't break you and you can still become a great man despite her, even more you can become a greater man than most because of how much you learned to endure a hard life like that.

>>516649225 (OP)
>I am 22 and am 24 now
>Dissociative Identity Disorder
You were the problem all along.

>>516649225 (OP)
Have confidence in yourself and your own personality
Embrace your failures as they can no longer cause a Chernobyl style meltdown
Stop people pleasing

You might have to go no contact for a bit to really disconnect from the situation and heal

>t. 26, dad died when I was 19, mom has bpd. It was a shitshow

>>516650641
That's not always an option, a LOT of people are inelligeble, whether it be a previous diagnosis, medical condindition that gets found in MEPs, or a chapter in basic training from injuries/osteoperosis. Its quite demoralizing to go through all the hoops to join the military just to be chaptered out in basic, happens to a lot these days and the army can take forever to get you out.

>>516649225 (OP)
I have a very similar story, it's genuinely not as hard to get out of the hole you're in as you think it is, seems impossible because you don't see a clear path, but from what you said, you are capable of having a normal life and making good connections with people, whether it be friends or a loving wife. It's easier than you think, you're still a human and weren't raised by wolves in the woods so you have the basic groundwork for socialization. You're just rusty, and even today women are not as picky as blackpillers make it seem for one, though a few are. Most of your issues are in your own head Im guessing, it was like that for me.

>>516650641
>Die for the ZOG
Nice try, kike.

>>516649225 (OP)
BPD isn't a real disorder. It is tolerating bad behavior in women.

>>516649225 (OP)
>weak father and a mother with BPD
Gay men rise up

I highly recommend EMDR therapy and getting off social media :)

>>516651928
You're literally retarded.

>>516649225 (OP)
>How do I recover from this and if I can?
Sue your parents for lost earning potential

>>516649225 (OP)
>be me
>have to deal with BPD mother causing shit and sabotaging and making my life miserable for no reason with my pussy whipped father telling me to just accept it so it’s easier on him while also telling me to stand up to her since I was 6 somehow but when I do or even show independence she sicks him on me like a attack dog and having to listen to my parents fight and argue literally every damn day about literally everything
>become a extreme schizoid can’t interact with others and don’t want to
>manage to get a job and move out of that hell house to another state
>at 20 I try dating and all the woman I meet obviously only care about themselves and want to use me as a wallet on top of usually being unattractive
>talk to my coworkers who are all either miserable or divorced and laughing about how miserable their wives make them and how horrible their wives are
>give up
>turn 24 parents call me from another phone number I keep blocking them but they use someone else’s phone and call me every 6 or so months and call it “teenage rebellion” when I’m in my mid 20’s and ask when I am going to settle down and give them grandkids to spoil
>tell them I’m not interested in American woman and if by some miracle I do have one they will never see them and I will never relive my father’s shit life
>last thing they say is, “But you have too!” Before I hang up
What did they expect? They made life as unappealing and as horrible as possible and they have the nerve to expect grandkids? What a joke.

This is a bot thread, you fucking cretins.

You are allowed to hate her
its not your fault

>>516649225 (OP)
always get DNA test first to see if anything interesting or royal pops up, then learn up on history and get to know names, afterwards figure out if your clan has targeted you to be the scapegoat, then search for signs of the grand noticing like not even a glance at from opposite gender, rigging, etc, after begin learning to keep mind blank so to speak like an awake meditation just to be extra safe while taking notes from time to time on such noticing slowly being archived in your subconscious memory, after begin looking corners or lamps of your surroundings, but most importantly never look at people. always around them, as this is the greatest form of reverse psychology you can possess as you do your own hunt while they try to hunt you as the targeted individual into suicide or false psychosis.

>>516654391
>be me
>BPD mother never let me leave the house growing up because of pedophiles and would discourage or outright stonewall me from doing literally anything
>never develop social skills or motivation to do anything
>end up a 35 year old neet with my mother baffled to why I turned out the way I did
Why do white mothers do this? No other race does this to their children except whites.

>>516654242
Anyone here have a mother who for no apparent reason would just stonewall life opportunities? Like going outside no pedophiles go to the playground no might get hurt go walk around the neighborhood might be kidnapped want to go to a friends birthday no can’t afford a birthday present want to go to boy scouts no don’t want to drive 15 minutes every week for it because mama would rather get drunk and hate text dad for hours on end. Just endless misery and hate from her for no reason. These days she burnt out and just gets drunk, smokes weed and expensive 11 dollars cigarettes while rambling on about how much everyone around her is terrible to her and hates her and past petty slights that happened literally decades ago. She alienated literally everyone she knows including her parents. I honestly hopes she kills herself she has literally not once contributed anything positive to anyone life around her in her 5 in a half decades of life. Even her parents once told me they wish they didn’t have her at one point.

>>516651928
>>516652551
no he's right. they're usually childish persons who were improperly raised and never told 'no' when they were young, they have no sense of responsibility for their own actions whatsoever and do as they like with complete disregard of anyone else or their own future, and only show compassion towards others when they can get something out of themselves. much of your personality is formed in your youth

>>516654636
How am I supposed to be motivated to work or work at all when I can’t even get a cheap apartment of my own to get away from my crazy BPD demon cunt of a mother? I work 10 hour days and come home to her screaming about something I did or someone else did it doesn’t matter ten years ago and how everyone hates her and how miserable life is. She does nothing but smoke weed, smoke 10 dollar cigarettes, and drink all fucking day and complains about how hard life is for her literally that’s it. She treats me like how she treated my dad and even does creepy shit like refer to me as, “her love” or “the man of the house”. What the fuck why was I born into this shit life?

>>516649225 (OP)
At the risk of sounding like some spiritual guru or hippie faggot, you need to control your stress on a physiological level, not psychological. Controlling the release of stress hormones in the body is achievable if you gain some control of your mind. I personally achieved this by microdosing psilocybin but it can be done through meditation or cognitive therapy as well. Once you eliminate the physical stress, the psychological outgrowths will be disarmed and vanish on their own.

>>516649225 (OP)
Describes me perfectly.

>>516654779
those are problems you can solve in time. get a better job for one, maybe re-educate first. cut spending on unnecessary shit and save up money. until then claim your personal space in the house, if you have a big room or basement or such, install a fridge and oven/ microwave and basically turn it into an independant appartment with your own key

maybe low cost housing options are available, like a trailer, but make sure to keep them temporary. i left home unexpectedly at 18 with 2K to my name, spent 6 months in government funed emergency shelter while saving up and looking for a good rental

>>516654520
we have racked up a good number of assassination survivals, of course for this case it cannot be done directly, but regardless it still exists, but as the one who was to be sacrificed as some weird we do this so u do that type logic of divisions and suffering these retarded things are created to keep peace. but instead we have decided to turn such into a game where we hunt the hunters instead, and have outlined and explained in great details for a future targeted individual how to properly play the game, such is deserving for targeting and attempted sacrifice of the sacred autist. Regardless if such past bad blood or acts are seen are truly horrific and demonic which in truth is simply just the way of the world and always has been and will be even today with presidents and CEOs we do ponder when the table shall be shifted on these bloodlines.

>>516654636
this

you get the point, do something to get yourself out of this situation, your mommy isn't going to do it for you

>>516655295
>just get a better job
>just
Just be rich faggots what’s the problem?

>>516651928
That's true in a manner, but it is basically NPD with the "vulnerable" element cranked up to a million, but with less need for grandiosity. It's even called Borderline basically because it was a grab bag of "cluster B" that doesn't quite have an "obvious" or all "related" cause. Just because it doesn't form a clean "intrinsic" class doesn't mean it's not empirically a useful label of "this nigger is a certain type of nuts and you can expect this behaviour"

You are right that BPD is the feminine of what Schizoid is to men

You seem to have the arse-backwards idea that PDs are an "excuse" at the core of your argument though

>>516654554
>Just endless misery and hate from her for no reason. These days she burnt out and just gets drunk, smokes weed and expensive 11 dollars cigarettes while rambling on about how much everyone around her is terrible to her and hates her and past petty slights that happened literally decades ago. She alienated literally everyone she knows including her parents.

100% the profile for my ex girlfriend lmao
I would ruin try her life but I honestly don't know what she's capable of as revenge

>>516655295
>>516655474
Grew up next door to a kid whose life was basically a slow-motion car wreck. Mom had the full bingo card of mental disorders and ran the house like some kind of narcissist cult. She booted the dad out when the kid was hitting puberty, forbade contact completely, and then just unloaded daily psychological warfare on him. Constant ridicule for showing emotion, second-guessing every decision he tried to make, tearing him down whenever he acted like a normal human.

By high school the dude had no self-esteem, no confidence, couldn’t make decisions without spiraling, because every time he tried to do anything she was there to mock it. Decades later she still called him “her child” in front of his friends, extended family, even strangers—like she literally refused to recognize him as an adult. Watching that dynamic was surreal.

End result? Scar tissue carved into his brain. Couldn’t function in society, couldn’t trust himself. Permanent damage. And here’s the kicker—mom acted like she was the victim whenever anyone questioned her.

After seeing that, I’m convinced boys should automatically be removed from single-mother households at 13. Either send them to their fathers, a foster father, or some kind of boys’ academy. Otherwise you get broken men wandering around who never even had a shot.

>>516656664
>>516656665
>be me
>have BPD mother and weak father
>mother roadblocked me in every aspect of my life especially socially she outright refused to let me go outside or talk to people because she was scared if I spoke a word to another human being I’d be butt raped by pedophiles and then took me to doctors to get the coveted autism diagnosis but gave up on that when the antipsychotics were giving her a real special needs to deal with which she didn’t want
>spend entire life staring at walls and day dreaming like a man in a coma
>end up a grown adult male who can’t talk to people or do anything even drive or get a job
>mother berates me but also at the same time still tries to road block me getting my license a part time job whatever she’ll sabotage it and if she can’t she will sick dad on my like when I was a child and if all else fails threaten to kick me out which is a death sentence these days
Why is this so damn common anymore? Why do woman when “empowered” ruin their sons life like this?

>>516651928
BPD is female psychopathy and very similar to narcissism. Its an extreme fear of abandonment and a longing for love, but when they get love since they hate themselves so much, they now view you as worthless. Im not kidding. Run away from them and they'll chase after you. Love them and they'll slash your tires and bring other men in and psychopathically discard you. Run the fuck away as far as you can from these creatures.

>>516656664
>BPD is the feminine of what Schizoid is to men
not exactly. it's the female equivalent of antisocial personality (or psychopathy)

>>516656665
>I honestly don't know what she's capable of as revenge
there's nothing they won't do. beware.

>>516649225 (OP)
load of bs. any retard can have all these it doesnt mean anything.

>>516656645
it's possible over time. i changed jobs about 6 times in 15 years before i found the one where i plan on staying
eventually, a job opening will pop up that you like better and hopefully pays better just keep an eye open

Step 1: rape your mom in front of your dad.
Step 2: i dunno lol

>>516649225 (OP)
How does it feel to have a BPD mother, how do they behave?

>be me
>born in 1990s at the height of stranger danger
>mom a neurotic bitch who didn’t let me have any freedom not even allowed to go outside or play with other kids because their uncles cousin who is in jail in another state might be a pedophile
>didn’t develop social skills and to this day still don’t know how to socialize
>pretty much lived like the picture except I’m 35 now and never had one friend or even kissed a girl and never even got a job because my mom freaked on me me getting a job at 20 and dad backed her up again as he always does
>life ruined
>mom and dad blame each other and often times me for how things turned out
Why did they do this to me?

Unironically go to a rave and take mdma

>>516656964
>BPD is female psychopathy
No, female psychopath are a whole other thing

>and very similar to narcissism
Yes, and they behave in very similar way, love bombing very early, testing/sabotaging the relationship, haracement during and after.
About half of BDP women are also narcissistic.
The one noticable difference between the two is that a pure borderline is into self-hate and self-harm, while a pure narcissist is more about domination and control.

>>516657533
>have a cluster b cunt of a mother who was scared of everything so she never let me do anything including going outside to play because I might be kidnapped so I did nothing except stare at walls or tv or laptop my entire life and a pussy wiped father who is a firm believer of happy wife happy life who’s idea of being a father was telling a five year old to stand up to his mother because he sure as shit wouldn’t and giving useless outdated advice every now and again and of course never stood up to his wife ever and let her do whatever the fuck she wanted with me which again was to rot in my room forever
>by the time I got to school my social skills were nonexistent and it just snow balled from there and I kept falling further and further behind
>24 now watching all my high school classmates get married and enjoying life while I’m still stuck in my room listening to my cunt mother yell at my dad over something that happened literal decades ago and blaming him for how shit her life is also another thing to note is she wanted to be a teacher but blamed me for never being able to pursue her dream now she can’t use me as an excuse now she’s just “tired” of everything so she can’t work I even found her a job that pays 21 dollars an hour plus mileage and she wouldn’t even look at it
Can someone explain to me why boomers thought it would be a good idea to let woman off the leash? Also why do parents do this to their children? I honestly wish I was never born at this point every aspect of my life sucks.

>>516657600
So is this it? Life is just going to keep getting worse forever? I’m 25 got the degree in computer science and got a job in the industry only to get laid off 4 years later during covid and stuck in retail like the rest of my generation. My parents advice is outright harmful and tell me I should just accept making 10 dollars an hour and never leaving home or doing anything? I didn’t get to do anything fun with my life like they did. They went the beach every weekend cross country trips to concerts and other crazy shit while I’m stuck worrying about if I’ll have enough gas and my car won’t break down. What the fuck is the point? I feel like I’m just wasting my finite anime, gaming, and hentai time. When the fuck are my efforts going to pay off?

>>516657533
this fixes most of the social issues
a dose of LSD will take care of any lingering depression and loosen up some of the harmful cognitive loops

>>516649225 (OP)
just curious. what made your father weak? what did you wish he would have done? how could he have been a strong father in this situation?

>>516649225 (OP)
What about ACTUAL personality disorder?

>>516649225 (OP)
>I am 22 went full mute 8-17 and am 24 now.
Are you 22 or 24?
You lost me.

>>516649225 (OP)
My ex was borderline and it was a rough 5 year relationship. My advice to you anon:
>join a gym and start working out daily
>find a hobby and get friends around that hobby
>minimize contact with your mom, at the very least, force her into therapy if she wants to talk to you
>try to stay busy with work
>don't look back, don't ever have regrets
You were dealt a shitty hand and no one blames you for it but they can and will blame you with how you deal with the aftermath. Time heals all.

>>516649225 (OP)
Rate my stack:
Clomipramine
Lamotrigine
Mirtazapine
Quetiapine
Pregabalin
Lisdexamphetamine + Dexamphetamine
Clonidine
Propranolol
Viagra

Diagnosed with:
Borderline Personality Disorder,
Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder,
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder,
High-functioning Autism (Aspergers),
Generalised Anxiety Disorder,
Social Anxiety Disorder

- The Dysregulated Podcast

>>516659148
Is that what you issue to the whole ward in a week, Nurse?

>>516659148
>viagra
Is that so you can rape the other inmates?

>>516649225 (OP)
>How do I recover from this and if I can?
you don't
>t. 37 year old with similar situation

1pbtid

I was raised by a normal mother. My dad had agoraphobia.
I now have agoraphobia. My father, however, was not agoraphobic.
>it is a learned behavior
>a response to stress
I know that and work around it.

>>516659148
Buy an ad.

>>516659046
its a jew from pic rel making up shit to distract you from organized crimes and assassinations of his criminal group

>>516659148
lmao, that's what you get for falling for the psychologists scheme

>>516657765
This shit is extremely relatable in a certain way for me
In a way I was driven crazy but then again I fell off the stairs as a kid and slammed my head so maybe I had no chance

I’ve also gotten the schizoid diagnosis but I refuse benzo’s
On the one hand I want to “do something” with my life but on the other I’ve spent years thinking about how pointless all of it is
Suicide isn’t the answer it seems and the world is going mad anyways and everybody copes in a certain way
I just hope eventually I’ll be able to smoke weed daily again like I’ve done for years
Maybe mushrooms will help me ( did them a couple of times)
Nowadays I’m in basically a constant panic attack due to biology but I found some solace in spirituality and checking myself
I doubt I would have been happier with friends and at this point I don’t really care anymore
My dad died in absolute agony but truthfully I think he was just glad he was done

Here’s some major crazy shit that might help you cope
I saw a red screen in the above me like a “system” in alien runes
something is deeply wrong and disturbed about this world and maybe we just need to think as boss characters because it’s “outside the box”

I have the “luck” I’ve made an absolute fool and retard out of myself and my family feels some pity for me, typical black sheep shit
I hope I can get away with just 2 days a week for work or whatever whenever they force me to do shit again

Shits fucked
Maybe these are the years of darkness before the light.
I genuinely hope the dimensions break and monsters start pouring out and we can all become an MC
fuck normalcy
I’ve had demented fantasies since as a kid

You wake up, go to work, grind out 40+ hours a week, make $15 an hour, and what do you get? Barely enough to afford rent in a glorified broom closet that smells like cigarettes and regret. Housing is a joke—either you’re paying $1,500 a month for a roach-infested studio, or you’re stuck with roommates who cry over their UberEats order getting canceled. Meanwhile, “luxury” apartments pop up everywhere, charging $3,000 a month so you can live in a shoebox with a “communal workspace” full of unemployed crypto bros.

Step outside, and it’s even worse. The roads look like a warzone, every building is either abandoned or graffiti-covered, and the only new businesses opening are weed dispensaries and overpriced coffee shops. The mall? Dead. Bars? Just daycare centers for single moms who “need a break” from the kids they had with Chad. Parks? Good luck avoiding the homeless dude screaming at a tree. Even if you do find something to do, it costs a fortune, and you’re surrounded by people who look like they escaped from a Walmart clearance bin.

And then there’s women. Used to be, if you worked hard, you could at least get a decent girlfriend. Now? Most are either built like refrigerators, covered in garbage tattoos, or already have a kid (or two, or three) from some “bad breakup.” The ones that aren’t disasters? Too busy selling feet pics on OnlyFans to guys who make more than you.

Then there’s the worst part—someone like Pan Piano is making half a million a year just by playing piano in cosplay, while you’re debating whether you can afford gas and groceries in the same week. Imagine explaining to someone 20 years ago that in the future, shaking your ass online would be a better career move than getting a degree.

They told us to work hard, be responsible, and do things the “right way.” Turns out, the real move was to be born rich or shameless. Society is a joke, and we’re the punchline.

>>516659505
No way. Why would you suspect these threads aren't totally legitimate and posted by a bunch of different real people who just happen to use the same style, filenames, and never come back to the threads?

>>516649225 (OP)
I'd reply with ernest but its 1pid

>>516656990
No, ASPD is the male version in the complementary sense (as in if you act ASPD but gay, you're diagnosed with BPD, I was actually going to mention that because I knew someone would say that) but Schizoid is it's diametrical opposite (which is what I meant) and it's "male equivalent" in that it's sort of just the usual behaviour "dialled up to 1 million"

They're also both commonly "caused"by NPD mothers (though Schizoid has a strong genetic element, BPD may as well though) and even the "soul" of the disorder is "perfect" opposites - BPDs spew semi-inauthentic vulnerability everywhere, mostly overemotional and immoral, that broken inner child is shattered to pieces and externalised into everyone else's problem, absolutely obsessed with abandonment and forcing themselves everywhere

SzPDs broadcast unintentional amorality and come across more like the Hollywood meme of "le twisted xd ebic chessman psycho" (real psychopathy again being much more aligned to the "Cluster B "spectrum" ") but internalise everything, and that inner child may have had its legs broken but they've built it a steel plated mechsuit, absolutely obsessed with WANTING to be abandoned

>BPD
ah yes another “mental illness” they use as an excuse when they hop on 3 different dicks a weekend. fucking slags.

>>516649903
He's mute, not deaf

i wish i could have an intense and unstable relationship with someone

>>516663949
But anon, the instability comes from the fact that half of the time they abandon, ignore and mistreat you.
You think you can take whatever they throw at you, until what they throw is a couple of months of openly talking about looking for a new partner, and a new life away from you, based on nothing you actually did.

Everybody talks about muh 'the sex is unbelievable tho', when it's not even good, and she'll often just lie there saying it's fine but she's just bored, or afterwards put on the waterworks and try to convince you that was a rape.

Yeah what a barrel of fucking laughs.
It's like hanging out with a lefty retard who's trying to set you up all the time, because if you are always sorry, always trying to keep them in a good mood, they think you won't leave them.

BPD women are parasites who mimic love to get their hooks into you, and then make you steadily lose the will to live so that you don't have the energy to leave.

And when your batteries run dry, they'll leave with somebody new, and tell everybody you were a violent drunk she was lucky to escape.

>Inb4 tiresome GIWTWM posters who pretend to like being stepped on

>>516664845
better than gradually accruing actual fucking brain damage from loneliness

I experienced a similar childhood and was basically isolated in my room until age 22. Your life is going to suck unless you do the work to sort yourself out. Dont blame your parents anymore, its pointless. spirituality & doing things that give you peace make it better. Finding the center in you, talking to that wounded inner child, soothing him and hearing him, protecting him. it gives you strength to go about your life, and confidence to discover who you are underneath it all. Dont identify with the wounds, that keeps you trapped in them. Meditation, reading, healthy diet, sunlight, plenty of water, taking care of hygiene. All of these things

>>516649382
I knew a grill who's mom (who was also a grill) had BPD and she was a mute. Almost never talked. She should kill herself though. Eeeeeeverything she does causes herself pain and everyone else.

>>516649701
This is true. BPD is unfixable and there has never been a single patient who recovered and became a normal person. And women? Think about it. Have you ever known ANY woman who was a whore then not a whore? Nope. And there's no undoing that damage. Now compound that with memory corruption and emotionally impulsive behavior? Not going to happen.

Suicide is the way out for people afflicted with bpd. Otherwise it's truly a life of pain straight out of a Greek mythology text

>>516666731
>Suicide is the way out for people afflicted with bpd
11% ACK! rate

>>516650641
>I promise you, it's not to late. You can find normalcy and happiness. You can heal from the shit she did to you

Weeeell. Hate to burst your bubble but it is too late. Persistent stress as a child = persistent cortisol release in the brain to manage stress which causes inhibits growth of the amygdala and hippocampus, which are for emotion processing and memory processing respectively, and the hardware of the brain is forever damaged because of this. This can even happen to adult whose brains were already grown normally; the amygdala and hippocampus can shrink and you develop BPD (this often happens with having regular interactions with BPDs, which makes it a contagious mind virus).

I know you people are degenerate atheist and want to live as long as possible no matter what, but BPD is definitely an exception to the rule and suicide is the best way out, for everyone.

>>516650778
>>Dissociative Identity Disorder
You have this? Can you describe what happens?

>>516649225 (OP)
>muh ebil parents how I cans recover!?!?!?!
have you tried not being an absolute fucking pussy?

>>516666731
>unfixable and there has never been a single patient who recovered and became a normal person
of course, that's what "personality disorder" means

>>516664845
From an archetypal perspective, BPD is the worst aspects of femininity turned up to 11. It should be called female antisocial personality disorder. Our culture really doesn't have a good grasp on the essence of femininity and masculinity (thanks Christianity), and it really hurts us. It's clear once you figure out what a woman is, that BPD is just feminine antisocial behaviour.

There really isn't any kind of recognisable core in femininity; it attaches itself to the order provided by the masculine. A feminine woman will fall totally into your world and conform herself totally to you if you are actually masculine(not just the window dressing of it). With BPD you get hyper femininity, and you get to see the true heart of insanity within women.

feminism isn't just wrong, it's totally self-defeating. Women are just going to conform to men worthy of it. Women like their pussy is empty until a man fills it.

>>516667198
The brain has no impact on mental health. Consciousness does not and cannot come from matter because mind is ontologically prior, meaning everyone is capable of fixing their shit if they would only fix their root judgements. Study philosophy and stop read science fiction.

>>516649225 (OP)
go do public speaking somehow. Go find a toastmaster's club where that's all they do. It sounds silly but once you have had to give a talk in front of a room full of people, and have to answer their questions, you will have zero fear.

I was in the same exact situation as you. I taught a recitation section in grad school and it helped me a lot. It will give you the confidence you never had.

>>516667563
what's your favourite memory from before being born?

Bro I come from a similar background thus far in my current human experience.
I too went mute for a little while because of the absolute atrocities that I endured on a daily basis.
I've been experiencing this lifetime for 23 years now, and grown a lot in the past 5 years.
Some people are evil. That's a fact.
Avoid them if you can and treat them with unconditional love when you interact with them.
If you know then you know

>>516656741
That would be a schizophrenia, just like me talking to a copypasta
>>516654636
No, he's not. E.g. you can't beat a BPD person to a fearful behavior, they would just grow to hate you and eventually kill you. You are describing infantilism
>>516656664
>You are right that BPD is the feminine of what Schizoid is to men
How exactly is it?
>>516664845
You sound like a person who had a bad (aka not what you wanted) relationship, couldn't cope with a break up and is now derailing the BPD into they le bad and me le good. Don't do this, anon.

>>516667563
You're mostly right.
We have 7 major perceptive faculties, which themselves are simply electromagnetic energy nexuses.
The energetic precedes the material, and the brain is material.
The seat of consciousness is not the brain, but it can operate from the space.

>>516667683
Why would you expect to have memories from before birth? No one who asserts the primacy of mind agues for that, because that would be contrary to metaphysics.

>>516649225 (OP)
Try getting puppets and verbally talking to yourself when you're alone at any opportunity.
Speak well grammatically and speak at a normal volume.
You might develop schizophrenia but you'll solve the nonverbalism.

>>516649486
what books

>>516668005
the good ones

>>516667930
what evidence do you have for primacy of mind?

>>516656664
>PDs are an "excuse" at the core of your argument though
I hope people aren't seeing PDs as excuses for bad behavior. The impact is still the same and they need to be put in mental institutions.

>>516656990
>it's the female equivalent of antisocial personality
These women are being antisocial, but I see the perspective that this is a quasi schizotypal disease. When they have a mood swing, they only pull from memories related to that mood and so it looks similar to a split personality.

50-70% of bpds also hear voices that no one else hears. Which really makes it seem like schizotypal

>>516654191
Is it just filled with other bots? Why the fuck does everyone ignore this?

>>516657053
Well, there are t more traits, so go look it up. It's a real mental disease that should be given capital punishment

>>516668094
>quasi schizotypal disease
they're known for psychotic reactions when under stress

>>516668079
The time tested logical axiom that no thing can emerge from nothing. Matter doesn't have life or mind, thus matter cannot be responsible for creating life or mind. Otherwise, that would be creating something out of nothing, which would violate all physics and all logic the world has ever known. Or to put it another way, no effect can exceed its cause in perfection, and mind is more perfect than matter because one is indivisible while the other is divisible. Also, mind can act on matter whereas matter has no ability to act on mind. As proof, take the example of Socrates. He didn't fear death, meaning the fear of death doesn't come from death itself and no force of matter could cause his mind to fear something he chose not to fear without his consent. This necessarily means that mind is ontologically prior to matter, because that's the only circumstance in which mind would be immovable by matter.

What's your evidence for mind emerging from matter?

>>516668294
It's pretty simple. You have subtle bodies which can be damaged.
Damage them enough and you're like an open receptacle being plugged into by whatever subtle energetic wave happens to be in you vicinity.
It's why meth users see shadow people

>>516667563
So why do people act different when hit in the head really hard. Shut up and don't be gay

>>516668796
One has nothing to do with the other. That's like claiming that light comes from our eyes because people who have acid thrown in their eyes can't see light anymore. You're confusing correlation with causation. The brain receives mind in the same way that the eyes receive light. Neither one is a cause. So if your brain is broken, you're going to have problems with how you interact with mind. But that has no bearing on mental health issues, because mental health issues are not the result of blunt force trauma. They're the result of a person's shitty attitude, shitty judgements and shitty personality. They can simply fix it and improve it by sitting down and meditating and changing their values.

>>516667397
And people don't know that. And by the time you finish reading some of these (Jewish) written pitches for DBT (the therapy recommended for BPD) it sounds like you're going to come out better than someone who never had the disease in the first place.

>>516669002
>>516668476
you're on drugs, aren't you?

>>516669106
He is on faith, yes
DESU his philosophical ideas wouldn't be half bad if he didn't start equating consciousness and mind and kept on with mind=consciousness+memories+something else

>>516668005
get books on "dark psychology" or something similar so you can navigate the world of NPC animals. Probably didn't get the help when it was needed. There are also lots of books on dealing with bad boomer parenting. But be careful many of them are written by and for hysterical women, so don't let them turn you into a forever victim.

>>516667563
>The brain has no impact on mental health
nigger what
A CTE will disprove this. You can put magnets on different parts of the skull and change political/philosophical beliefs, and you can turn off people's ability to talk for a time. There is a degree of localisation within the brain. The 2 hemispheres are different and do different things; you can tell if someone is male or female based on how the 2 hemispheres communicate.

>>516668450
>Matter doesn't have life or mind
it does in certain configurations

>>516668005
Also the Bible. Massive oversight. idc what the anti Christians think either.

>>516669564
That's a superstition with nothing to back it up. There is no scientific data anywhere that suggest these "certain configurations" exist, nor what they are, nor have they been replicated, nor is there even a theory as to what these specific configurations might be. And even still, that would still violate the axiom of 'ex nihilo nihil fit'. If matter does not have life, it cannot be the cause of life.

>>516669501
None of that is true, that's little more than science fiction. "Neuroscience" is almost entirely based on the misunderstanding of correlation vs. causation. What they do with those "brain scans" is the same as if I were to take a heat map of somebody telling a lie, noting that their face got warmer during the lie, then concluding that people with warm faces are dishonest.

>>516668100
>Is it just filled with other bots?
Yes, and Jannies let these threads go on 24/7. Notice I post screencaps of this spam with random copypasta from the previous versions of the threads and get apparent effort posts to the text in response.
These ALL have the same IMG_1234 filenames, the short subject line and either one liner question or some AI generated loser fan-fic writeup. Always 1PBTI, and themes are always divide and conquer or demoralization/give up/it's hopeless.

>>516669800
this. reading about desert rituals and the lineage of some old jew will help you immeasurably in life.

>>516669932
what's the role of the brain?

>>516667563
American education

>>516670475
To receive mind, in the same way that the eye's role is to receive light. That doesn't mean that the brain creates mind, any more than the eye creates light.

>>516669937
Anon, we all here have a Shy Faggot Disorder and don't want to start a new thread, tho we wanted to read on and discuss the matter. That's why we are here in the bot thread

>>516669002
Then who even cares about what we do with our brain and bodies? We can just float around and forget the brain because we don't need it all, let alone for it to work correctly.

What I do is just like, like you know heheheheh you know what I mean? Like

>>516670482
I wish. If even a small fraction of the country were as educated and knowledgeable as I am, things would be vastly improved.

>>516670650
see
>>516670582
The brain still serves a vital role, it's simply not the cause of mind. This isn't that hard of a concept to grasp.

>>516670684
Explain what a lobotomy is

>>516670831
But we have mind without brain. There's no need for the brain.

And if the brain is needed to perceive mind then then it does matter if you're hit on the head and bpd is a really bad mental disease.

>>516670582
why do retards and psychotic people exist? are they actually smart and sane beyond the physical world?

>>516670988
>>516670899
Something else we need to bring up while talking about me talking diseases is that narcissism, both vulnerable and grandiose, are pathological mental diseases. These are not merely faked personalities, they're a mental disease that requires great care to handle.

>>516671180
Cool but what about lobotomies?

>>516649225 (OP)
Develop a persona that works for you. It'll become automatic after a while and you'll be able to function like a normal person.

>>516669932
>When in doubt, just deny reality.

Brother, im not saying that people are necessarily deterministic or that there is no awe or wonder in the world, but this pseudo-Christian/orphic/aristotelian idea that the brain is the seat of the soul is just wrong, or at least imperfect. im not throwing out the idea that the soul is there, but your idea that the brain is a body without organs is wrong.

Your idea of the brain isn't new; in fact, it's very old. They had lots of intelligent but wrong ideas back then.

This video goes over some neuroscience, but they guy isn't purely materialistic, im not either, but much has been though of the brain that is not true
https://youtu.be/ta99EGo3Npk?si=7d2guZuXap7bYbvf

>>516670976
That's like saying since light exists without eyes, we don't need eyes anymore. If you want to gouge your eyes out just because your eyes aren't responsible for light, be my guest, but that would make you a fucking retard.

>>516670988
Again, retards being born is the same as people being born with eyes that don't work. The brain receives mind. If someone is born with a screwed up brain then their reception is going to be poor. Psychotic people are just assholes with bad personalities, there's nothing physically wrong with them that can't be fixed with meditation and a change in personal values.

>>516670899
The same as above applies. The brain receives, meaning if you take out portions of the brain your reception is going to go to shit. At no point does the existence of lobotomies imply that the brain is creating mind. If you're listening to the radio and somebody comes in with a hammer and smashes it, it's not as if they stopped the broadcast. They just broke that one receiver.

>>516651928
Seed oils block the human brain getting DHA.

>>516671341
I'm not denying reality at all. I've stated several times now that the brain performs important functions. But the brain does not create mind, because that is objectively metaphysically impossible.

>24 now
So you got about 6 years to make something out of life before your youth is drained from your life and replaced with physical problems that'll never get better so you better have a career solidified as you never know what life will throw at you, it's Russian roulette if you get to enjoy life after that..

>>516671342
you don't even know what psychosis means

>>516671420
quick reminder that a-linolenic acid is essential

>>516671250
What about them? They probably can't help work bpd. Though shutting down any additional function of that garbage brain will help. They'll either be a potato or do dumb enough shit to where we'll give them the chair

>>516671342
Now back up your claims

>>516671250
So you know, the keyboard on my phone keeps skipping words I type and splitting words into different ones and I'm tired of correcting it. Typos will happen.

>>516667270
>You have this? Can you describe what happens?
Well, one minute you think you are 22, and then you think you are 24.

>>516671676
>>516671775
I bumped the wrong anon, sorry for the inconvenience.
You look good today btw

>>516667882
This is all philosophy forced into metaphysical constructs. None of this shit youre saying is real and youre using words like this to make it seem like its more deeper than it is. Telling someone to read more philosophy is like telling someone to consoom a whole library of knowledge to acknowledge the one branch, or leaf rather, of bullshit you are spouting. Philosophy is gay and retarded primarily because of this dynamic alone.

>>516671893
You're wrong.

>>516671768
I did. I listed the logical axioms which make it impossible for mind to emerge from matter. I'm the only one here who has backed up his claims with something more than a vague reference to "certain configurations", which is nothing but pure woo factor.

this thread started off crooked and now has gone completely off the rails. perfect analogy to BPD

>>516672092
god's own neurosurgeon

>>516672241
Is following logic to its conclusion a problem for you? If I've listed logical reasons why something must be a certain way, and your only response to that is snark and insult, then doesn't that indicate that you're wrong and that you don't have a valid position? If your position were a legitimate one, you would have an actual argument based on reason, rather than this emotional hissyfit you keep throwing my way.

>>516671443
>>516669002
ofc it creates mind.
The eye receives light, not vision. We know the mechanics behind vision, thus we can say how the eye creates vision. You're creating a false equivalency, but I see what you're getting at. I'll play ball. Where does the mind come from if the brain is like the eye? because we can understand light as a natural phenomenon, even before modern times.

>>516671878
Its a spy!

Anti mossad agents are being dispatched now

>>516668005
Fire in the belly - on being a man by Sam Keen
Iron John - a book about men by Robert Bly
King, Warrior, Magician, Lover by Robert L Moore
Psycho Cybernetics by Maxwell Maltz
The road less travelled by M Scott Peck
CPTSD - from surviving to thriving by Pete Walker.

Then read up on narcissism, psychological development, trauma responses, types of emotional abuse, human archetypes and then revisit the old Disney movies and pick them apart and analyse them from a psychology perspective. Meditate, body scans, focused breathing, grounding exercises and journal every day.

>>516654636
no, he's not right at all
there are neurological differences in borderlines detectable on brain scans, notably reduced hippocampal connectivity and volume, and heightened amygdala reactivity
it's essentially brain damage caused by early childhood trauma, with a genetic component, and it results in a form of 'emotional schizophrenia', replete with full emotional psychotic breaks
the literature used to call them 'quasi-psychotic', but IIRC now recommends just 'psychotic', to fully convey the severity of the break from reality
in these states they recall a memory, but don't always then attach the appropriate recalled emotion as part of that process, instead applying their current emotional state onto any and all recalled memories

what this means in practice is that in a given moment -- say they're angry with someone -- they're literally unable to remember anything nice about that person, as all the memories of them are subtly altered to portray the person in a negative light
this is called 'splitting', or 'demonisation'
and it's 100% real to them in that moment

when there are documented structural and functional brain alterations, it's a 'real' disorder
your opinion doesn't matter, and it doesn't determine reality
don't speak about things you're wholly ignorant of

>>516672430
>ofc it creates mind
The fact that your response is "of course it does" shows that you're operating off of deeply held assumptions. It's necessary to question your prejudices, otherwise your position is little more than what people would call religious superstition.

>Where does the mind come from if the brain is like the eye?
Mind is an innate property of reality itself. It exists ontologically prior to matter and is in fact responsible for creating matter. The fact that mind can move matter but matter can't move mind supports the necessity of that order.

>>516672040
Stop spewing your Eric weinstein nonsense. Grifting larp faggots deserve the rope.

>>516669932
>Muh science
Talk about superstition lmao

>>516672422
Not one person has posted

A
B
C

Conclusion

>>516672092
That woo shit is what makes life interesting and is actually the core axiom from which all things emerge.
There's a reason is has its own unique flavor almost, almost like there is a perceptive faculty beyond mind that you're observing when you encounter something which is labeled as woo.
It's the miraculous

>>516667753
>me le good them le bad
>projection over an ex
>splitting
Ironically that sounds exactly like BPD

>>516672422
explain how your unfalsifiable metaphysics thought experiment is useful

>>516673015
I have. I'll do it again.

A. An entity cannot emerge from non-existence
B. Thus, a cause cannot produce in an effect what it does not possess by itself
C. Matter does not inherently possess life or mind
D. Matter cannot be the cause or originator of life or mind

This has never been refuted in all of human history, because it's based on nothing but first principles.

>>516672550
CPTSD is just PTSD with an extra adjective to make it sound more dramatic

Against all I ended up marrying a BPD woman and while she was obsessed with me it was fantastic but when I pulled away she ended up sleeping with 3 people but still to this day even after divorce she refuses to call it cheating because I knew she was meeting people. So what I did? I went and cheated on her three times back to back.
She's gone now but goddamn. I'm pretty sure that I ended up getting secondhand BPD from her that I'm still trying to recover from after nearly a year. It's completely fucked my ability to bond normally with my current partner too and I'm completely and utterly emotionally unavailable which is ruining this relationship now.

>>516673299
cool

>>516673275
this is just -- to use one of /pol/'s favourite terms -- pilpul

>>516649225 (OP)
Go out into the woods and start lifting rocks until you are a man.

Woman?
Find a husband or go to Church.

>>516672806
You literally cannot deploy doubt upon yourself yet you tell others to do so. This shits embarrassing dude start by putting things into plain English so you can capture your reader then branch from there to bigger words while showing both sides of each step. That is how you actually sound intelligent without filling that gaps with jargon.

>>516673299
>CPTSD
it's just borderline. same as DID

>>516673236
It strips away half assed excuses and puts responsibility for behavior solely on the individual. Someone who knows that his mind is his own responsibility has no choice but to continually improve that mind and make it as perfect as he can.

>>516673275
You start with something known and start to fill with assertions. You are assuming away the concept of emergence.

>>516673413
No, it's not. It's pure logic. If you're determined from the beginning to deny that logic can lead to sensible conclusions, then you're basically saying "I'm content to be wrong".