Thread 518848696

Hi, I have some legitment connections within the Australian Liberal Party (the conservatives for non Australians reading).

This process will probably take a few years but essentially the party is splitting up into two.

There is talk of the more conservative politicians leaving and joining the nationals.
Andrew Hastie the other day larping about putting tariffs on cars was seen as a big deal in the party.

Whist moderates in the Liberal party are increasingly talking to the Teals.


There is a real non larp about 20% chance of the party splitting with Australia ending up with a 3 party political system this would take some years though.

Nationals for Trump style conservatives/Protectionism and right wing ideas.

Liberals/Teals for more libertarian/business elite types who like more immigrants and want to stop climate change.

Labor just being the same.


This is why you see the Liberal party fight in the media a lot and why they can't agree to a policy.

>>518848696 (OP)
good just another 100 years of labor and a land full of pajeets.

>>518848696 (OP)
Oh no! Not the heckin jewish controlled liberal party!! Good riddance. Hopefully the labor jews are next.

>>518848696 (OP)
Good. Reminder that the liberal party voted against Labor's plan to restrict student visas and reign in the ridiculous racket the universities are running.

>>518848696 (OP)
There's no point in splitting unless they want to create a Reform UK style party aimed squarely at reducing immigration. Labor will win every election because street shitters vote 90% Labor.

>>518848696 (OP)
Bogan sir,
The left always splits up then makes a deal with each other to prop up the most globalist and cucked center left regime like we have had here for a decade.

It's only a happening when the right unite because they always win

>>518848696 (OP)
Your politics makes no difference. Ideology is ephemeral, demography is destiny.

>>518848696 (OP)
OP is a Chinese Wumao doing disinformation. If you are stupid enough the believe their shit you deserve a ride in one of the CCP's organ harvesting vans

>>518848696 (OP)
>There is a real non larp about 20% chance of the party splitting
actual insider here. there's no chance of a split. every cunt from the simpering faggot autists in the young libs to the party powerbrokers are neck deep in blairite great replacement ideology. there's no one to split off, no one to lead a split and no will anywhere to split. they're dyed in the wool traitors without a single independent thought in their tiny little zogged brains.

All parties should be banned only individuals should run for (local) office. Death to feds

hmmmm do i vote for mass immigration, or mass immigration, or maybe mass immigration?

>>518848696 (OP)
When are you kicking out Ley

>>518848696 (OP)
The best hope is for One Nation to become a White advocacy group in Parliament and ensure no one can govern without their support. Australia will become minority White, and this cannot be reversed. The best hope is to preserve your rights and ensure legal equality.

>>518849463
regardless, the liberal party and the nationals are fucked for at least two more elections kek

>>518850731
It's permanent. Non-Whites vote left and that's an end of it. All the "right" ever had to do was cease non-white immigration and remove those already here, but they're essentially blairite neocons so they're fucked. Perfectly good country ruined and soon to be a third world wasteland where Whites are butchered out in the open.

>>518850839
libs and nationals love immigrants tho. they always bring in more then labour when they get power

>>518850903
Exactly. There is no difference between them and they both lead to ruin. It's already done and there is nobody to change it. Non-Whites ruin everything.

>>518848696 (OP)
Isn't Australia essentially doomed? It'll end up a one-party state for at least a decade, and the country already can't build infrastructure fast enough to deal with immigration. Combine that with hotter weather and to me it looks like we're on track to look more like India within a generation.

>>518850585
>>518850903
>some charismatic bastard takes the reigns from Pauline
>rises to leader of One Nation
>actual decent policy on immigration, Australia first, BTFO globohomo, nationalize mining, etc, etc
>unites the Libs, Nats, One Nation and bunch of micro-party faggots into a unified Australian Right party, may as well call it the republican party.
>make NZ the 9th state
>make Papua and the pacific islands special territories that don't have votes
>remove dual citieznship and PR, make dual citizenships denounce their cunt of origin
>tax all Australian citizens regardless of where they are on planet earth
The solution is simple, Australia has to become an actual country again and not a multicultural tragedy of the commons economic zone

>>518848696 (OP)
Labor has no opposition.

Won't happen, would be very funny if it did.
It's much more likely that One Nation is now becoming a "serious" major party on par with the greens. Rather than the big 3, it will now be the big 4.
Labor cannot govern with Green support in the senate, now Libs will also never govern with a senate majority.

Labor should be terrified about One Nation turning into a Reform UK because both Labor and Liberal only exist by bouncing off eachother, if you destroy one party, the other exists without purpose and the normies start asking questions.

>>518852830
>some charismatic bastard takes the reigns from Pauline
>he then has a tragic car accident, sad

they already did remember, then immediately cucked because they're such spineless faggots

>>518848696 (OP)
> This is why you see the Liberal party fight in the media a lot

Worth understanding that that the Liberal party expressly allows disagreements (and conscious crossing the floor) as part of the party. Labor does not allow this from its members.


Having said that I think you’re on point with your analysis in particular , why would you vote for a milquetoast lib, when you get just vote for a teal and get happy Insta stories every day. Either way no actual politics is getting done. So Libs need to change or split.

>>518848696 (OP)
I know for a fact that Australia has it as opposites when it comes to right/left so i cam calling our your Larp.

nothing ever matters in australia given we depend so much on iron ore exports, education exports, and real estate foreign investors

i.e. we are china's bitch (bhp lol)

>>518848696 (OP)
>Insider
dont have to be an insider cunt
its already mainstream news

>>518848803
remind me anon, which liberal governments shut down the border and turned away all refugees and asylum seekers and non white immigrants?
ohhhh right
none of them
yet you blame this issue EXCLUSIVELY on labor

>>518848960
They're still scared that the jeets might decide they're sick of more and more immigrants and want to shut the door behind them though, which would lead to voting Liberal.

That obviously can't be allowed to happen, so the Liberal party will be split into two smaller, shittier versions, to ensure that neither of them will ever get enough votes to unseat Labor.

>>518853947
Labor allows disagreements, they just have to be kept to the cabinet or caucus rooms. When the party takes a position publicly it has to be adhered to. Cabinet and caucus solidarity is something all members have to agree to before being sworn in. But internally there’s tons of disagreements.

>>518848696 (OP)
Pretty much guarantees Labor will be in power for decades unopposed. Dutton went to the previous election with Trump style policies and lost in the largest margin in Liberal party history. But the right wing faction is convinced Trumpism still has a place in Australia, despite voters resoundingly voting against it only a few months ago. The stupidity of the right wing faction in the Liberals is unbelievable. Trumpism is a personality cult and only works because of Trump himself, everyone else who has tried to replicate it has failed.

>>518856219
>Pretty much guarantees Labor will be in power for decades unopposed. Dutton went to the previous election with Trump style policies and lost in the largest margin in Liberal party history.
lmao, you shouldn't read into Australian political commentators' opinions as gospel. They are mostly blatant paid propagandists/party strategists.
People forget that Labor were also approaching extinction at the last election, the Liberals were not running on 'Trumpism'; they ran a dull, safe campaign then got absolutely fucked by bad timing. Even with Spud as leader, they entered this year with a comfortable polling lead and he did what would be enough historically to win a comfortable election but just prior to Trump's tariff drama and Canada's election.
Labor won because people were dumb enough to buy a last minute pitch that Dutton was ozTrump, the guy was promising to change nothing.

Regardless, Labor is still at their lowest point in history despite the majority, same as uk labour

>>518848696 (OP)

Yeah,

maybe allowing marriage, the nuclear family, religion, home ownership, ethnic hegemony, manufacturing and the middle class to be completely destroyed was a bad long term plan for the party. Menzies is spinning in his grave.

Now we're doomed to eternal communist rule.

Rest in piss.

Here is a reminder of what was stolen from us:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUdeLgfWgUM

>>518848696 (OP)
Like the Tories they'd rather commit suicide than actually be right wing

>>518856722
It’s not really relevant whether Labor primary vote is historically low in a preferential system if they collect most preferences and Liberals capture very few (pretty much only One Nation)

Dutton tried to play the role of an authoritarian strongman, even if he had very little in the way of policies to back that up. It failed dismally but his party is convinced the public still wants it, despite every sign pointing to the contrary. Elections are won in the centre in Australia because of compulsory voting diluting the power of fringe extremists. Mobilising single issue voters and culture war nutters doesn’t work here like it does in the US. Liberals need to learn how our voting system works.

>>518856948

>It’s not really relevant whether Labor primary vote is historically low in a preferential system if they collect most preferences

Well it's kind of relevant to the 66% of voters who did not place ALP first.

>>518857093
You’re right, faith in Labor is at historic lows and independent and minor party votes at historic highs. But ultimately it doesn’t matter because people almost always preference Labor above Liberal, so Labor wins regardless of their crap primary vote.

Tony Abbott effectively still runs the Liberals and thinks culture war and Sky News will get them power, which is deranged and stupid.

>>518856948
>It’s not really relevant whether Labor primary vote is historically low in a preferential system
this is true until they drop below 30%, where Labor's primary sits now is dangerously low. They run the risk of being knocked out early in preference flows which almost lost Labor several seats to INDs this year despite the crushing victory. It also means no senate.
It's not unreasonable to predict that Labor's base floor could drop from 30% to 20% when they inevitably oversee a horrific period of time. That 10% drop loses them an absolute fuck ton of seats, particularly in their ethnic strongholds.

All of the (((analysts))) are doing victory laps and sniffing their own farts instead of actually assessing what happened in the last election. Look at Canberra, north/west Melb, west Sydney, Perth.

>>518848696 (OP)
I don't care

>>518848696 (OP)
>Nationals for Trump style conservatives/Protectionism and right wing ideas.
So more jeets/money for Israel
>Liberals/Teals for more libertarian/business elite types who like more immigrants and want to stop climate change.
So more jeets/money for Israel
>Labor just being the same.
So more jeets/money for Israel

Fuck all those cunts and fuck you

>>518848696 (OP)
>Nats being a legitimate third party
Never going to happen, Nats do not and never have had any foreign policy, they effectively don't exist beyond the level of local government.
Unless there's a radical shift in their membership, backing, and overall policy Nats will never be anything except the Liberal's version of the Greens, but with even less ambition.

>>518848696 (OP)
Kek the larp is unreal
>Insider here
meanwhile the LNP is running in 5 different directions publicly every day

>>518848696 (OP)
>I have some legitment connections
doubt

>>518848803
Libs started this shit with the intention of nuking wages for their business buddies

I'll give you that Albo is also doing fuck all to fix it

>>518858268
Yeah, this.

The liberals straight up don't have a federal platform to run on kek

>>518859512
wannabe american

>>518848696 (OP)
>legitment
uh huh

>>518852830
Instead of "president", call the head of state of the republic "governor" so you can trace a line of history back to Governor Phillip and the founding of the colony

>>518848696 (OP)
> fake and gay
or
> the guy called it
what's it anons ?

>>518859192
Yep. There are no good guys, and there is no political solution.

>>518860563
it is just a stupid post.
One Nation will be a major party.
LNP is jewish as aids

> People in this thread have already forgotten that Pauline Hanson voted FOR the new anti hate speech laws.
Here's that white nationalist leader I was telling you about.

Every member of the LNP is an absolute traitor who should be executed for treason of the commonwealth.
Your bullshit dog whistles won't save you.

>>518862857
Love Pauline but she's a bit of a dumbcunt which is why she got played by sleazeballs like James Ashby.
One Nation needs a new male leader preferably mid to late 40s who knows how the world (((really works))).
The two biggest problems with the current Australian system are:
>the judiciary is undemocratic and infested with jewish and activist interests
>every politican that enters gets converted into a member of the 1% elites by the time they finish up which is why nothing every changes to benifit the working and middle class

>>518856948
>Dutton tried to play the role of an authoritarian strongman
Despite what /pol/ wants to think, normies actually aren't stupid. They know the Liberals are all talk and voted for everything that ruined this country in a bipartisan manner with Labor.
If we had a true right wing option promising to deport immigrants with impunity they would be insanely popular.
The system will always prevent such an option, but that's besides the point.

I will continue voting labour for gibs until the liberals decide to be pro-white. in other words, i’ll be voting labour for the rest of my life

>>518863577
>normies actually aren't stupid.
I'm hoping whoever the hell advised him is gutted and Hastie gets a solid group around him.
My only question is how much of a zogbot globohomo is he, he's defitnley the most Australia-first Liberal in the mix at the moment.

>>518864063
Labor were always the pro-white party. The Liberals and their predecessors always opposed the white Australia policy, supported things like black birding to flood us with cheap coloured labour and used immigrants as a way to weaken unions.
I'm sick of this retarded assumption that the Liberals were ever pro-White or are even close to meeting that definition today.

>>518864267
Hastie is a complete massive zionist faggot. Having any hope in him is just a waste of time and an invitation for disappointment.

>>518864394
Yeah I realize that, he ticks so many other boxes thou it's hard not to hope that he's secretly red-pilled on that as well.
He's also got the charisma of a plank of wood but that's part and parcel with the avg aus polly nowadays.

>>518862857
She's a zogbot. Enough said.

>>518864640
If he does split the party maybe a potential powe vacuum could open up to something more exciting.

>>518864267
Hastie is a young earth creationist religious nutcase. Those guys don’t even get elected in American politics, they’re so extreme. He has a snowballs chance in hell of being elected in Australia. The fact that the Liberals are seriously considering him as a candidate shows how talent poor they are nowadays after Morrison blew up the party

>>518848696 (OP)
fuck labortards
fuck labor
sewerell is a labor plant

>>518848696 (OP)
>legitment connections within the Australian Liberal Party
legitimate connections within the Australian Liberal Party flew over my house

>a real non larp about 20% chance of the party splitting with Australia ending up with a 3 party political system
What we need to do is make parliament less powerful so that it doesn't matter who gets elected because their power has been stripped away.

>>518866180
what?

>>518866180
>Morrison blew up the party
Was it really Morrison who screwed things up? He just seemed to be holding things together. Turnbull did most of the damage. But things could have gone better if Peter Costello had stepped up.

>>518870085
Morrison lost all the teal seats that the Liberals used to rely on to get into power. They are unelectable unless they get them back

>>518848696 (OP)
>Nationals for Trump style conservatives/Protectionism and right wing ideas.
>Liberals/Teals for more libertarian/business elite types who like more immigrants and want to stop climate change.
You seem very, very confused. Or you just easily fall for marketing.