Thread 519013423

How would history turn out if the Ottomans discovered the Americas first?

Even more head choppy than before

If the Ottomans had discovered America first, it also would have meant that they were powerful enough to conquer Europe. So basically the whole world would have been brown.

>>519013423 (OP)
The Ottomans were slavers. They would have immediately enslaved the natives.

>>519013487
Grim.

>>519013423 (OP)
I’m no handing it over to the Indians/chinese lol

>>519013423 (OP)
2/3rds of them would’ve been wiped out by smallpox and the rest killed

>>519013504
The Spanish where also slaves, they just didn't have a colony to enslave until America.
But here is the catch, Mexico was conquered by the indigenous, so they only enslaved the rebellious, the ones that allied whit the Spanish got rich and bleached.

>>519013423 (OP)
Cholas in burqas.

>>519013728
Slaves*
Slavers
So going back to the original question, the ottomans would have been eventually pushed to the sea.
The only ones that could push their population to the Americas where the UK, lol the bastards make everything a bug crime, oh you throw urine at five to jail 5 years or go to the Americas, things like that

>>519013423 (OP)
We don't like sandniggers over here Abdul Aquajeet.

The Ottomans were inferior to Spain, probably England, Portugal, France or even fucking Nederlands would come here first.

>>519013423 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-sJG68sBrk

Same situation. Most natives would die from disease overwhelmingly. The majority would be enslaved or converted to Islam - what the Ottoman Empire literally did everywhere.

>>519013487
Uhhhh well they could theoretically have used Venice or Sicily as a launching point in the brief period in which they occupied both, the period being a few decades before the americas were discovered makes it kind of interesting

That said it would definitely be a lot shittier, but jews would probably be aimed at mudslimes moreso than us

>>519013423 (OP)
No blacks in the US no anglo runing Europe

>>519013423 (OP)
The entire reason the Americas were discovered was because the Ottomans disrupted the Silk Road.

>>519013423 (OP)
The same except they would have gelded
All the native men

>>519013423 (OP)
prolly a lot more underage boy rape involved than normal
as with all things ottoman

>>519013504
This, the Ottomans had a huge slave empire so definitely they would have enslaved the American Indians plus force their conversion to Islam.....or else just like what muslims do everywhere they spread to. White people at least tried to extend a hand of good will and friendship towards the american indians multiple times, with muslims they would certainly would not have been as generous. It would be become a slave, convert to Islam, or death that would be their choices.

>>519014085
Any medium size beaner country could fuck turkey Spics natives were (and still are) violent muzzies can't even deal with tiny Israel or bulgaria, the Spanish were guided by the Lord because the Natives Mayans, Incas and Aztecs were doing hundreds of thousands of human sacrifices to the sun Spain alone fucked turkeistan and the morrocan caliphate blocking their access into Europe.

Sand niggers have their head full inside their asshole with superstitions and Egyptians rituals they didn't have the vision of an European visionary like Columbus (see Islamic state for example) until much later.

Entertaining yourself what if goatfuckets Le conquered Le world you are also obligated to make the same suppositions with India or Algeria for example.

Realistically probably the Natives would erase the half Mongolian bc knowing Turks they are greedy fucks like the average middle Eastern and would have save money sending only one ship perhabs maybe because they would be convinced it was a futile enterprise and if by chance the ship arrived natives would have killed them like they did with le vikings when the arrived in Canada hundreds of years before Spain.

>>519014860
If it wasn't for french kikes we're still have a sovereign native american nation (the five tribes) but they were tricked into a war with the US with french support that never came, relations with native americans were only really very bad in the mid to late 1800s, mostly because the native americans were essentially conquered and tried some last gasp battles to forge out a nation of their own, now they blame the white man when jews are to blame, just like every other race, only asians seem to have figured it out

>>519013423 (OP)
Arabic would of influence the languages of native americans

>>519013423 (OP)
They would have actually slaughtered the natives and there would be no apologies or guilt centuries later

>>519015101
Ottomons spoke turkish not Arabic but I think they used the same alphabet. Ottomans conquered and ruled the Arabs for around 400 years until the end of the first world war.

>>519013487
>>519014294
Could have they not just used morocco?

>>519015411
Ottomns spoke a hybrid of Persian and arabic. Modern day turkish wasn't spoken back then

>>519015428
Morocco wasn't under ottoman rule unless I am mistaken, it was a client state, at that point though you're talking about the barbary pirates launching the colonization, which I guess is possible but I mean, venice had actual real shipyards to launch actual real naval expeditions from, which makes more sense for this in my opinion

>>519013504
It would have resulted in war.

>>519015520
Arabic would probably be used in a religious context and Farsi would be spoken by intellectuals, but Turkish was absolutely the lingua franca of the Ottoman Empire.

>>519015302
>>519014860

why were they unable to reach anywhere outside the Mediterranean/azov Sea while even small countries in Europe were competing to colonize far away lands?

Islam spread in indonesia peacefully while Spain conquered the Phillipines by force, what makes you think it would have been different with the Americas knowing Turks had an inferior naval force than Spain and England back then in the 16 century?


Have you considered that many natives were friendly to the Spanish and just decided to integrate into the empire because they believed the religion and culture were superior?

>>519013423 (OP)
>Ottomans discovered the Americas first?
the ottoman’s history of their invasion of Byzantine is very vague. had the ottomans discovered America first there’d be no trace of Indians at all!

>>519013487
>the whole world would have been brown
so nothing would have changed

>>519016077
Lmao

>>519016033
Why do we have trace of Greeks, Armenians, Albanians, Jews or Arabs right now? Explain, seems like they did a bad job with ethnic cleansing,

Did you know the Natives of the Americas had a much bigger population than all of the ottoman Empire combined?

Cortez conquered Tenochtitlan almost by miracle.

>>519016374
>Why do we have trace of Greeks, Armenians, Albanians
nigga what
>Jews or Arabs
The Inquisition.
>Cortez conquered Tenochtitlan almost by miracle.
Cortez conquered Tenochtitlan by allying with the Tlaxcaltecas and having superior weapons. Even if he failed, a bigger Spanish army would have eventually conquered the Aztecs.

>>519013487
Ottomans chopped the dicks of niggers, so...
Brownish future but no niggers?
Is it a good trade off?

>>519013423 (OP)
Without the American gold and silver, the European barbarian kingdoms would have remained poor, primitive, fanatically religious and fiercely hostile against all the developed civilizations of the world. One Sultanate or another would have conquered, pacified and civilized them.
For the Americas it would have been lucky. The Spanish and the Portuguese were genocidal religious fanatics. The Ottomans tolerant scholars. They would have developed the Americas to wealth and power instead of just killing and looting like the Christians did.

>>519016712
I am replying to Visajeet here saying if the turkoroaches ever approached the Americas there would be no trace of Natives while they left trace of everybody else they raped near them.
>>519016033

Cortez mission into Mexico was canceled shortly after, Cortez even had to fight a bigger Spanish garrison that was sent to arrest him for disobeying orders, if you read more about the Spanish and Portuguese colonization of the rest of the World not only the Americas they were so efficient and also fighting Muslims, Pagans and Jews I am convinced they were helped by God.

I know Turks were savage etc, so were the Arabs, Iranians, Mongols and niggers that doesn't meant they would ever succeed colonizing the Americas.

>>519016869
>Without the American gold and silver, the European barbarian kingdoms would have remained poor, primitive, fanatically religious and fiercely hostile against all the developed civilizations of the world.
Thats bullshit.
Exploring for shits and giggles, requires you to be already wealthy.
Why dont you return to your homeland and leave those primitive barbarian lands, prick?

>>519013423 (OP)
The whole 'indians aren't fit for slavery' meme probably wouldn't fly

>>519016869
Then what are you doing in Germany Abdul? You have to go backto the middle east, you forgot your fellow turkoroaches ruined East Rome.

>>519016815
one word : kurds
eradicate niggers but breed kurds

>>519013423 (OP)
I would believe your thought experiment if it was Andalusia or Morocco but for Ottomans to discover America they would need totally different government, aims and history so this theoretical Ottoman empire would not resemble actual Ottoman empire.
>>519015302
Lol. Ottoman empire was mutt globohomo empire which was the reason of their fall.

>>519017243
It never did in the first place, always have been a meme the Spanish realized about something else, Why would you ever try to enslave people that developed sophisticated cities more than most of Europe including Flandes btw, mathematics, writting system, many types of language, astronomy, Agriculture and architecture?

They also realized it would be next to impossible because it would cause rebellion a couple of thousands vs literal millions (see Haiti for example) they simply created a caste system to stay on top.

>>519013423 (OP)
ottomans didn't have the viking ships as prototypes

Imagine a Turkic Planet with Humans descended from Ancient Yenisei Kyrgyz, Aztecs, Incas and Mayas...

>>519017877
Makes me shiver in horror, not gonna lie.

>>519017190
Retard
>>519017279
Nigger

>>519018317
You are the village idiot, bragging about his intelligence.
Cut your dick off and shove it, tranny.

>>519018441
You are the retard

>>519016077
The world is bigger than your brown distopian hellhole called JewSA

>>519017545
No Amerindian civilization came close to 15th century Low Countries in terms of development, that's crazy talk

>>519013423 (OP)
The savages would have been genocided outright.

>>519017279
Why you so butt hurt Juan?

>>519013423 (OP)
Jews couldn't rape kids like in our timeline

>>519020856
Shit the fuck up you inbred little Arab lmao