Thread 519193882

FUSION is on the menu boys

https://thelibertydaily.com/doe-unveils-national-roadmap-deliver-commercial-fusion-power/

Goodbye coal, goodbye stupid ugly windmills, goodbye toxic chinese solar panels, hello freedom

BUILD INNOVATE GROW

>>519193882 (OP)
you cant end fossil fuels if you like it or not.
its an easy access to energy and the third world is only scraping on the energy requirement of a first world citizen.
once 3 billion subhumans burn through it, this planet is going to die

>>519193882 (OP)
Sounds fake and gay.

If youre on /pol/ and still clinging to the misnomer that is the "fossil" youre a brainlet fucking retard and you have to go back

World is heating up
Lets build more boilers to heat up water
Sounds like a great plan

>>519195358
you can use electricity to generate synthetic fuel from the air. it's just fucking hydrogen and carbon

>>519195855
Shut the fuck up, retard. If we get this working, we'll barely need fossil fuels after solid-state batteries get figured out, and Japanese heavy industry is moving on that front.

>mid 2030s
and how much suffering until then?

>>519196155
>fossil fuels
everyone laugh at the retard

>>519193882 (OP)
>Checks roadmap
>They don't even have a prototype
lol, lmao even

>nuclear power
>in any western country
Lol. Europe is heading into its next dark age. It's the East's time to shine next. Normies really have no idea.

>>519193882 (OP)
Yeah, let us know when producing fuel for fusion costs less than ~1500000000x the power output.

>>519195855
shitalian excellence everybody

>>519196037
yes, saar you can use electricity to generate synthetic fuel from the air. it's just fucking hydrogen and carbon
kek

>>519196306
It's made from dead dinosaurs you leaf assholes

>>519195855
idiot

>>519196430
go home you paki piece of shit

>>519193882 (OP)
Thorium reactors are a thing. Its been talked about for quite some time.

>>519193882 (OP)
fusion power is a waste of time and money because it will never work.
I've heard that fusion power research is actually nuclear weapon research.
That is the only explanation for why they continue to bankroll it.

>>519197654
Thank you for your service.

>>519196306
shut up, you irrelevant snownigger. You have no space program, no functioning military, and nothing of value other than resource extraction, which can simply be taken. We should bomb the fuck out of you ingrates and turn Mexico into a territory, too.

>>519195440
>>519196037
>>519197789
>>519197799
Thank Reagan for the current American education system.

>>519193882 (OP)
why did america cuck europe out of nuclear plants

>>519196430
there will be no habitation structures on the lunar surface unless covered by 3-5 feet of regolith, and even then any country trying to live on the moon will most likely build inside of lava tubes, this is known faggot. solar/cosmic radiation and micrometeorites hitting every square inch of lunar surface every 24 month period excludes all exposed surface dwellings unless you can make kinetic/ablative shielding capable of withstanding a 24,000mph strike

>>519198092
Europe kind of cucked itself, a pile of that shit was ACTUAL Russian propaganda. Including the greens in the US.

>>519193882 (OP)
Fusion has been done for years, but the trick is to make it commercially viable. It's like a nuclear fission power plant, you need to burn something, but the reaction is cleaner and much more efficient.

>>519198180
looks comfy

>>519193882 (OP)
OH WOW MORE RADON AND ALPHA RADIATION IN OUR WATER SUPPLY THATS SO BASED OF THE MORONS I HAVE TO LIVE ON EARTH WITH.

>>519198180
We will simply expose ourselves to radiation until wr become radiation-resistant. It doesn't matter whether this takes thousands of years. It is a requirement to ascending to the stars.

>>519193882 (OP)
How much for a cold fusion car?
And how does this help us achieve energy independence?

>>519193882 (OP)
>FUSION is on the menu boys

it's been on the menu since I was born.
anyways.

>>519198092
so they have to purchase Texan/Gulf of American produced natural gas products you tay sachs infested inbred yiddler

>>519198255
> alpha radiation
> protons!

oh noes!

Retard.

>>519197678
No you dumb fuck
just because it's labelled that way does not make it so

>>519198092
greens in Germany ale literally Russian plants...
they killed co2 neutral nuclear in favour of "green" Russian gas...

>>519193882 (OP)
Gonna be a bunch of ticking time-bomb Chernobyl happy centers.

>>519198234
The main problem is how much energy you get back out of the chemical reaction, the same problem exists in hydrogen cells, it costs electricity to make hydrogen, but the energy you get back out of it is a net loss over all.

The same problem exists with burning coal, there is radiation in the coal, that radiation in the coal could be used as thorium and then the coal could be burned later once the radiation is extracted (thorium) but instead we have a retarded arse nigger economy and so we must use lots of energy to make solar panels and then extract it inefficiently using up lots of land where crops or plants could grow that feed people providing chemical energy.

ENERGY is the NEW CURRENCY, in the future.

>>519197654
the tech is developed by porsche you moron

>>519198284
you don't become radiation resistant, that's not real nor will it ever be minus 40k-esque gene editing/extra organ implantation. the only hope we have is to somehow make a material that can be manufactured into EVA suits and habitations which absorbs radiation in it's totality like the mushrooms that grow in chernobyl, or produce a contraption that generates an artificial magnetic field which would act in a similar manner to earths magnetosphere @ scale

>>519198255
>PROTONS IN MUH WATER SUPPLY, AAAAAAAA
>NUCLEAR SCARY, CLOSED FUSION SYSTEM WILL JUST BE SPEWING RADON EVERYWHERE
Fucking Eurotrash education, go die in a ditch.

>>519197977
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrofuel

>>519193882 (OP)
>roadmap
lol

>>519197678
just imagine if you will for a nanosecond, there are dinosaurs waging a war below the earth's crust to avoid being extracted by pumps and turned into refined fuels like kerosene, diesel and petrol. it's disgusting it is, think of the DINOSAURS

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>>519198483
You are retarded enough that you should kill yourself immediately. You do not even understand the difference between fission and fusion.

>>519196155
>solid-state batteries
what's that?

>>519198444
umm coal is 100% made from dead vegetative matter you retarded kike, and marine microorganisms are still a type of dead animal aka zooplankton, are all yids retarded like you?

>>519193882 (OP)
>roadmap
yea
no

>>519198656
Germans are quite frequently subhuman, do not even bother to speak to them as equals, make them prove that they can even debate a matter like a citizen rather than babble reassurances to each other like slaves. Treat them like shit on your shoe and they are forced to abandon their pretentious bullshit.

>>519193882 (OP)
No it is not. There is only enough beryllium produced yearly to produce a single reactor vessel and tungsten as a fast neutron moderator causes rapid sputtering and collapses the plasma.

>>519198911
We just need to get rid of them. The kikes must be oven'd, the Canadians conquered, Mexico brought to heel, and Germany, one day, utterly annihilated as a concept.

>>519193882 (OP)
What if we connected every single country on earth with a pipelines and pumped their sewers directly to the US and made a giant biogas plant with it?

Imagine it. All the sewers of the world connected and flowing into the US. Like the World Wide Web. But more like the World Shite Web.

India alone would eliminate US energy dependence on oil, and with the rest we could power up all the AI datacenters, space missions to Mars, electric cars, etc.

>>519197977
You're the uneducated one. They've been claiming fusion power is 10 years away for 50 years.

>>519198656
may we see it, in an industrial scale?
because i can generate electricity with a potato

>>519193882 (OP)
Fusion has been a decade away since the 70s. If you are a person in your 60s, fusion power has literally been 10 years away for your whole fucking life. And it is still 10 years away today.

>>519198255
everyone check put the stupid assbag post. gather 'round

>>519198978
you're full of shit on the beryllium front...tim allen discovered a most abundant supply in 1999

>>519198331
i was promised an all white 1488 european future free from pakis, kikes, mexicrents and niggers

>>519198762
kek another grift to suck dry stock market gambling addicts

>>519193882 (OP)
Let's hope the boomer's don't get in the way of this one.
https://youtu.be/unDzOIDZnac?si=HVXtYnx-NnqEb--K

>>519198331
Boomers are keeping you from our promised future

>>519199459
>Boomers are keeping you from our promised future
>boomers

kek

>>519199050
the self destructive cycle of the yid which is like clockwork over the millennia will do more harm/damage to them than we will ever be able to conceive of. it may seem bleak, but history repeats itself without fail...the zoomer noticing will eventually lead to events that will cause a population bottleneck identical to that of 1000-1200 years ago when they were reduced to 4 shishkas that spawned what we now call the Ashkenazim. just like my ex wife, there is nothing I can do to her that she won't do to herself 500 times worse than what i could ever imagine

>>519198829
I would trust Nigerian casava farmers with a fission nuclear plant, over Americans with fusion nuclear plant. All fusion nuclear plants in US will be their ticking time bomb Chernobyl, i.e. nuclear disaster.

>>519198673
>you don't become radiation resistant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramsar,_Iran#Geography

>>519195855
God damn you're a fucking retard, how embarrassing

>>519199459
>Boomers are keeping you from our promised future
>boomers

lol

>>519198911
>>519199050
Abiogenic Petroleum Theory
suck my uncircumcised dick kikelets

>>519193882 (OP)
> THE END OF FOSSIL FUELS
Not my problem. I won't live to see this happen. And Nuclear Fusion Energy is still Science Fiction.

>>519193882 (OP)
Well you have to build them first. It might be ok for some of you guys, but in this country we could literally find a magical rock of infinite energy and we would not be able to use it because even building a small factory to put the rock and extract the power would probably be held up for 30 years in planning permission, environmental assessments and procurement stalls.

>>519199585
Shut up jamal, you live in a nest of wings and nigger shit

>>519199585
get out of my country brownshit

>>519199459
>Boomers are keeping you from our promised future
>boomers

lmao, even

>>519199585
Nobody gives a damn about the retarded opinions of a dumbfuck who got their GED from a cereal box, you worthless fucking nigger.

>>519199170
Oh they got fusion "working" some time back.
Problem is that when accounting for the energy spent producing the fuel, the energy output is a rounding error to the point that it makes hydrogen look sane, where the most "efficient" way of producing it is cracking LNG, where you "only" throw away 70% of the energy contained in the LNG to make hydrogen.

>>519199594
cancer is the last thing you'd die of if exposed to lunar surface levels of radiation, your DNA will literally unravel, which is the same action that causes aging. astronauts in the ISS get the same radiation exposure as those in ramsar iran, none of them have cancer or have gotten cancer, but all of them are permafucked in some other health category be it ocular, renal, hepatic, or pulmonary. if you look @ morbitity rate for ramsar w/cause of deaths other than cancer they are 4 times higher than all of Iran for kidney, liver, heart, and lung diseases. we will never acclimate to radiation, it is not real. also 1,800 people is not even close to a proper sample size to determine the effects of radiation on humans

>>519199817
It's both, you subhuman dimwit fuck. Go die in a hole, preferably on fire. You aren't presenting anything new here, just making a fool of yourself.

>>519199817
>abiogenic petroleum theory
>theory
gtfo you midwit kike lmfao

>>519195855
We'll have so much free energy that we'll have light up sidewalk tiles - just like in this music video from the Italian top single this week.

are we going back to this timeline?

>>519200470
We were never on that timeline and we're never going there.

>>519199817
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH A KIKE PROMOTING A KIKE GENERATED THEORY, HOW NOVEL, BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Gold
>Thomas Gold's "deep gas hypothesis" proposes that some natural gas deposits were formed out of hydrocarbons deep in the Earth's mantle. Earlier studies of mantle-derived rocks from many places have shown that hydrocarbons from the mantle region can be found widely around the globe. However, the content of such hydrocarbons is in low concentration.[4] While there may be large deposits of abiotic hydrocarbons, globally significant amounts of abiotic hydrocarbons are deemed unlikely.[5]
>Gold was born on May 22, 1920, in Vienna, Austria, to Max Gold, a wealthy Jewish industrialist (pre-war) who ran one of Austria's largest mining and metal fabrication companies, and German former actress Josefine Martin.

>>519199189
You would think we could form more than rudimentary lathe to make this shit happen but nope.

>>519200216
I might have to evacuate, as will you, if a Trump administration warp speeds this Dyson sphere tech.

>>519199594
you ever wonder why bitches in their 20's and early 30's look so tired/haggard/wrinkly? solar fucking radiation...them ho's sun bathing/tanning causes their DNA to unravel which gives them that 50yo karen look @ 25. this has been known for centuries, and is one of the reasons why women would not only dress up to where very little skin was sun exposed, but also used umbrellas whenever possible.

>>519200335
it is both but the amount of hydrocarbons produced from inorganic means is negligible @ global scale compared to organic hydrocarbons.

>>519193953
BIG if true.

>>519193882 (OP)
fusion has been on the menu for how many decades now?

Fusion isn't over parity yet.
You can't put a stellar mass in a box okay gang?
I mean maybe, but it's 30 years away, I've been watching the progress and the best you can do is get back most of the energy you put into it, which means fusion is a science experiment until you can show me a 25 time return on power investment, which is not even in the space of possibility.

A Star btfo's your equipment okay gang?

>>519198978
was curious why you said tungsten instead of graphite for moderation as i know next to nothing about fusion so just looked into fusion and it seems fusion doesn't have a need to moderate neutrons as moderation is to slow neutrons down for chain reactions. they want em going as fast as possible to breed fuel/produce heat
t. works shutdowns @ STP (Tx nuke plant)

>>519193953
>goodbye toxic chinese solar panels
most of the faggots here probably don’t realize Chinese solar panels leach cadmium and heavy metals when they’re rained on. completely fucks with the soil underneath those solar farms.

>>519199170
/thread

>>519193882 (OP)
If commercially viable fusion ever gets developed people will become as retarded about it as they are about fission because it's still "nuclear" and "radioactive".

Conversely, if people ever stopped being retarded (fat chance), we could just build a shitton of nuclear reactors with reasonable regulation like they did in the 60s (Or hell, the French managed to do in the late 70s and 80s. The fucking French. Can you imagine?)

>>519193882 (OP)
masaka, so much power from fusion

>>519196037
yeah but fossil fuels are used for materials

>>519202844
Oh, we figured a way around that one, our own nuclear industry found some big tech PR people or something. It's not a "reactor", it's an "energy module for national infrastructure" on the budget sheet. Therefore, when activists make freedom-of-information requests on "nuclear reactors" and not "energy modules", they don't get shit other than legacy models.

>>519197678
Coal is ancient plantmatter, oil is a replenishing naturally occurring ressource

>>519193882 (OP)
Uh, huh...?

>>519203627
get lost and go back to roblox, kid

>>519195855
World is heating up
Lets still use microwave ovens
Sounds like a great plan

>>519193882 (OP)
>commercial fusion power
No such thing. It is simply not feasible - not now, not in a thousand years: https://thebulletin.org/2017/04/fusion-reactors-not-what-theyre-cracked-up-to-be/

https://www.energy.gov/sites/default/files/2025-10/fusion-s%26t-roadmap-101625.pdf
surprised no one posted the full roadmap
>>519193882 (OP)
It's hardly 'on the menu'. The first plant that can generate gigawatts is a decade away, and private capital will only come in after they see. Only then will the private sector start 10 year projects of their own to build fusion.
Since the 1950s the fossil industry has been setting fusion against fission, paralyzing the transition away from fossil fuel electricity. It's important to innovate fusion but we should also switch to fission.

>>519193882 (OP)
>be excited goyim fusion is totally on the way

Two more weeks, and even then we’ll still be paying for it

>>519198331
tbf we have been converging on it. In the 70s, it used to be 30 years away, and now it's 10 years away.

>Q is net power gain
Hmm Q>1 in 3-5 years is a little unambitious
Hadn't we already achieved that several years ago?
Confinment is the only challenge regarding fusion that my layman mind knows.

>>519203731
Without oil modern life is impossible.
Happy Saturday!

>>519200004
The nice part is that once a few companies get more experience in building a NPP, it becomes faster and cheaper from less mistakes. That's why China can build so many now, lots of practice.

>>519193882 (OP)
>muh fusion
We should just be spamming normal nuclear power plants

>>519193882 (OP)
i'll give you the same link as you did in the other thread, but i don't think it's the same information.

they're not talking about fusion, but rather they're talking about fission.

>>519193882 (OP)
>fusion powered tic tac drones are real and they're owned by the dod
>they're going to let the commercial sector suddenly do the 'ignition' and jumpstart fusion

>>519193882 (OP)
>>519193953
>brown american grifters solving fusion
hahahah
america is a third world shithole

>>519193882 (OP)
Fusion has been how many years away for how many decades now? It's still not going to be any closer next year

>>519206258
https://www.energy.gov/articles/fusion-st-roadmap
Why are you making shit up

>>519201848
Tungsten as the reactor liner as an alternative to beryllium. It contaminates the plasma in short order. IE the material problems inherent to fusion have no been solved and you would need massive new mining projects to supply the beryllium. It also has to be changed out regularly as it becomes highly radioactive. They should have been build molten salt thorium reactors since the 60's instead of distracting everyone with fusion hopium.

>>519195855
Kys for this lazy troll job.

>>519195855
>World is heating up
>Lets build more ovens to heat up pizzas
>Sounds like a great pan

>>519207248
Technically emissive energy systems will cook the planet within 200-300 years at current rate of energy demand growth. Future energy systems will have to be non emissive or they will have to reflect a proportion of light from the sun equal to what were putting in the atmosphere.

>>519200222
You forgot Citgo, Guillermo

>>519196037
omg r u john galt?

>>519206507
tongue my asshole Mohammed

>>519193882 (OP)

People won't pay for nuclear reactors now, even though they are better for our environment and country overall. I can only imagine how much people will chimp out when the price tag is revealed these new mega plants. That's not even mentioning construction time nor pesos invested.

>>519206629
they need a few hundred billion more in investment from governments and it will 100% work ok!

>>519199170
damn she was fine when she was younger

Does anyone think about the kind of absurdly unprofitable mining operations that could start with nearly free electricity?

>>519199170
i was watching a basedence program from 2007 last night and they said they expected commercial fusion reactors to go into production in 15-20 years lol
we still waiting on that one along with those carbon nanotube space elevators nigga

>>519193882 (OP)
>FUSION is on the menu boys

There will be no fusion power, ever. How can people be so ignorant and delusional.

>>519207655
interesting choice of video you have saved
are you indian?
the average american is ltierally brown, afterall

>>519196037
>you can use electricity to generate synthetic fuel from the air.

Great idea. All we need is massive amounts of electricity.

>>519207915
>People won't pay for nuclear reactors now, even though they are better for our environment and country overall.

The US can't produce nuclear fuel.

>>519207519
dont worry. the government will just create and tax
>energy emission equivalence light reflection certificates
for wallstreet and energy companies to sell and buy. cost will be handed down to the wagies, like always and this will be our new doomsday thing to keep people in constant fear the end is near. thanks for playing, no re.

>>519195855
Carbon capture devices idiot

>>519208670
The US is sitting on a stockpile of thorium ore leftover from the Manhattan project that could power the country for 1000 years. They have plenty of breeders, they simply do not use them due to the tritium restrictions in the NPT. Thorium is most unattractive since the nuclear lobby is more interested in producing weapons and stymying human progress. The sad reality is the lack of infrastructure being built is a clear signal they intend to reduce populations and standard of living.

>>519208840
They are working on getting rid of wagies with autonomous machines that can do many times the watt hours of labor for much less cost. It's just people earnestly want to believe that concentrated wealth and power will redistribute it at that point instead of rolling out eugenics in the form of subsistence level UBI. People are going to lose a lot of what they take for granted now.

>>519208373
>basedence
lol

>>519195855
High level bait. Impressive.

>>519208564
the navy has been doing this for a while now
https://aerospaceglobalnews.com/news/us-navy-seawater-to-jet-fuel-project-sea-dragon/

>>519202033
>fucks with the soil underneath
That's so yesterday anon, now we build solar farms on top of ponds.
https://scienceline.org/2025/07/floating-solar-arrays-are-getting-a-lot-of-attention-lately-and-its-not-all-positive/