Thread 519202035

f16 looks like a toy plane in side by side comparsion with proper war plane

>>519202035 (OP)
which one is what

>>519202035 (OP)
it's not 1980 anymore, planes and ships are irrelevant
biolabs, data centers, fintech, number of AI nodes, number of cheap plastic robots and drones produced per second

>>519202118
think, jew, THINK

>>519202035 (OP)
I gotta say you guys I'm pretty disappointed with the development of technology. Most of the planes of my youth(80s) are still in service but they're all basically useless. I expected space planes by now and food in pill form. Instead all the coolest planes are retired and the future is gay ass drone/missile spam.

Fuck kikes. Fuck niggers. Fuck faggots. Fuck trannies. Most of all fuck jannies.

>>519202223
no

>>519202035 (OP)
In a dog fight the F16 wins
>USA
>USA
>USA

>>519202035 (OP)
>bigger plane better!

>>519202035 (OP)
Bigger plane = bigger hitbox

>>519202035 (OP)
Angle on that pic is a bit of.

>>519202035 (OP)
Summer offensive status?

it's actually quite surprising how big air superiority fighters are, but they gotta be to make room for the engines and weapons and stuff.

the f-16 is a cheap(er) multirole strike aircraft. the f-15 is a better comparison, or the f-22, and both of those are fuckhueg as well.

>>519202217
this
>b-but muh big b-battleships
go to bed grandpa

>>519202688
suspended

>>519202685
that's a mig not a su retard
here is mig next to su

>>519202841
No man, the angle on your pic is really bad.

>>519202035 (OP)
Planes are literally obsolete. You niggers are about to find this out in the next "air war" when shitty $5000 drones are flying around with air to air missiles

>>519202035 (OP)
The F-16 is a 50 year old plane.

>>519202035 (OP)
Trump said they are building fighter jets with 3 engines

>>519202445
Jaguar my beloved.

>>519202685
Did they capture an enemy constructor and go both factions?

>>519203227
My brother from another mother.

>>519203143
Sorry fake news itsTwin engines f35 - f55, NASA has cool prototype jets. Can't find the video now

>>519202035 (OP)
They just had different design priorities?

>>519203377
>They just had different design priorities?
and design philosophies.

>>519202445
>I expected space planes by now
We really were sold a false bill of goods on what the future was going to look like.

>>519202035 (OP)
F16 took Iraq in three weeks
SU-whatever his number can't take even a quarter of Ukraine in three years

And yet the f16 can shoot them down and have done so recently

>>519202035 (OP)
Different planes have different roles. Smaller, more agile planes are used for dog fights.

>>519202445
You just need to wait for the next big war to drive things on, there hasnt been anything like the Cold War for decades now, and plane tech hardly needed any advancements for Iraq and Afghanistan, while infantry operations saw quite large changes.

>>519203951
>dog fights
if you got into a dogfight you are doing it wrong.
how its supposed to work:

>launch BVR missiles
>run & reload
>launch more BVR missiles

>>519204037
You're retarded. Most planes were designed before the 1980s, when dog fights were still a major concern.

>>519204112
most planes should be upgraded to carry the most up to date BVR missiles.

>>519204112
>dog fights were still a major concern
It wasn't about dogfighting as much as institutional inertia and "meh it's not hard to put a gun on it."

>>519202217
Those cheap plastic (((robots))) cost more than hundreds of artillery shells and are just opulent remote control toys. Its a big retard bubble for retarded techbros getting gaslit by religious fanatic legacy investor nepobabies. The real war is on you and the idiots that should be on your side like Elon are hopelessly childish star trek nerds that just want to play video games with brain to machine interfaces.

After they crash everything and regress civilization into total barbarism you'll work on a ten thousand acre plantation maintaining the property of some rabbinical neotechnocrat who will tell you to breed some brown female just as retarded as you are to ensure your future generations cannot even conceive of the idea of rebellion and it'll be your fault. You'll deserve it because you're a clueless technobarbarian monkey.

>>519202035 (OP)
yes, they are also interceptors and not long range missile trucks multirole planes like that plane.

besides that electronics and weapon systems are more important than the plane itself and f16 is CUTE

>>519202035 (OP)
if thats a mig its a PIECE OF SHIT, motors destroy themselves after a few hundred hours and need replacement, theres a reason they are not used anymore and were replaced by su for the most part

>>519204710
>ost more than hundreds of artillery shells
he is talking about fpv drones, those cost 300 dollars for a good kit

>>519202035 (OP)
F18 cuts through a Sukhoi like a toy:
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/06/18/us-navy-fa18e-shoots-down-su22-over-syria.html

>>519202445
humans are bloat. AI is better

>>519202035 (OP)
>F16 gapes every Russian jet produced
>War fundamentally changes
>Mini-rapist retires covered in the blood of Arab pilots
>Only for some gypsy to talk shit two decades later

Romanies are good for thievery and slander

Ride your horse into a fucking canyon

>>519202035 (OP)
this small jet will have superior aviation capabilities and will outmaneuver this giant plane. this is obvious. do you think these billion dollar projects are just for fun? then you might be retatarded.

>>519202445
lies, this came out in 2002 and showed the f22 as some futuristic scifi plane, f35 as the cheapo version was later and the stealth bomber was revealed some months ago,m you are just a retard

The F-16 would beat that sovietslop 1v1 so whatever.

Don't know shit about planes, besides doing some basic maintenance work on them here and there, but I've no doubt the US plane performs better. I don't like the US military but I can't deny that they make good things, and have the best logistical efficiency of any empire since Rome.

>>519202035 (OP)
fck u https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_B-52_Stratofortress#/media/File:B-52H_static_display_arms_06.jpg

>>519202976
Rely on numbers, anon. Why are you measuring by sight like a caveman?

>Specifications (F-16C Block 50 and 52)
>Length: 49 ft 5 in (15.06 m)
>Wingspan: 32 ft 8 in (9.96 m)

>Specifications (Su-27PU/Su-30)
>Length: 72 ft 0 in (21.935 m)
>Wingspan: 48 ft 3 in (14.7 m)

So, the F16 is basically two-thirds the size of the Su30.

>>519202688
As far as I can tell, it's a propaganda meme, like most of the Russian "offensives" that supposedly fail (because they never existed in the first place)

Russia launches continuous (small) offensives throughout the year.

>F-16
>F-22
>F-35
Modern NATO planes are so fucking ugly.

Return to the Cold War aesthetic.

>>519202688
As far as I can tell, it's a propaganda meme, like most of the supposed Russian summer/winter/spring/ offensives

>declare that a major Russian offensive is imminent
>nothing out of the ordinary happens
>declare that the Russian offensive has failed

The Russians carry out continuous offensives throughout the year.

>>519206696
They are rougly the same size.

>>519202035 (OP)
Smaller plane = more maneuverable

Better in a dogfight

>>519207838
That's an f-15 you total moron

Today /pol/ learned that different planes suit different roles.

>>519208099
Some of us know basic aviation principles.
Some of these people are flat out stupid though.

>>519202217
>it's not 1980 anymore, planes and ships are irrelevant
>biolabs, data centers, fintech, number of AI nodes, number of cheap plastic robots and drones produced per second
Correct. It's a war between the global oligarchy and "its own" populations. They don't want to bomb their whole infrastructure to shit. They just want you gone.

>>519202035 (OP)
It's built for maneuverability anon. It's supposed to be an unstable lil wasp.

>>519207308

F-16 is 50 years old, and the f-22 looks good

>>519202035 (OP)
They're both Timmy toys compared to the Tejas

>>519208328
kek

>>519202555
you mean like fighting an actual dog? maybe...

>>519208328
aren't these the planes the US military blew up in Top Gun that were supposed to be Migs?

>>519202445
The MIC is a giant grift that gets infinite welfare, no creative development in such a situation

>bigger
Aaaaaaaand missile locked

>>519208408
No thase were the "mig-28" actually F-5 "freedom fighters"

>>519203271
There used to be two Germanys, so, kinda, yeah.

>>519202035 (OP)
these days with OTH-WS, slap some hard points on a fucking boeing dreamliner and it would probably be more effective as it could carry more ordinance
now its all about the missiles that fire over the horizon, act as little drones as themselves, find their own targets, and go boom
you are either shooting things over the horizon or bombing targets on the ground
there are no more dog fights, ever

>>519207838
Yes, but the Russians' hats are bigger.

>>519202035 (OP)
Both of those will be shot down from hundreds of miles away in the opening days of the war.. IF they can take off before pic related turns their hangars into rebar spaghetti. Using non-stealth aircraft will be akin to cavalry charging into machine gun and artillery fire in WW1.

>>519207838
I believe in AMERICA RUSSIA AUSTRALIA union.

>>519208725
You can still "notch" radar guided missiles to some extent.

>>519208725
>there are no more dog fights, ever

In the same way there are no more knife / bayonet fights on the ground. Technically yes, but actually no.

>>519208959
I could see fighters and drones going at it tho, and drones and drones. We may as well just put war in the virtual space, like an Olympic event

>>519207308
Nah man, new planes have SOVL the 80s could never.

>>519202035 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi-9YJXzzJo
Play Tiny Combat Arena

>>519209072
Look up the Fi-156
Sovl isnt new

>>519203955
checked. in case you havent noticed, world IQ peaked in 1870. breakthroughs have become more infrequent and almost nonexistent at this point. why is every next big tech leap forever 10 years away if this is not true. zero point energy, cold fusion, anti grav, quantum computing, AI, all of it has been 10 years away for at least 50 years now. look at AI or what they are selling as AI. a chatbot running on gigawatts of power that has no short term memory, is incapable of 'learning' without being completely retrained, and is nothing at all close to a sentient AI. its a joke really. and its the hottest thing we got going. we cant even master self driving cars. the past 100 years has been taking existing inventions and improving upon them incrementally. if there are any great breakthroughs, they would be immediately stifled if they would in any way disrupt the status quo so theres that. enjoy the twilight of humanity, its going to be planetary brazil if we dont snuff these kikes turning humanity into retarded brown sludge.

F16 and F4 phantom are interceptors that need high top speed. They were repurposed to fighters.

>>519209072
sky tractor is king
I hope it gets to work in venezuela

>>519202035 (OP)
smaller plane = better. harder to detect on radar. harder to see.
the only problem in this matchup is the missile range and effectiveness, and that's not the fault of the f-16 but of the weapons manufacturers being incompetent

>>519209446
The f-16 is not an interceptor.
Holy fuck.

>>519203645
This. Planes were supposed to be able to transform, fly in space AND walk by now.

>>519202035 (OP)
That might 29 is a piece of shit plane that never did any good
F-16s on the other hand are peak fighting machines

>>519209543
Well the sdf-1 didnt crash here, so that's why.

>>519207976
Yes, the same class ss the su.

>>519202445
Those ladies had better close their wind screens!

>>519202445
>I expected space planes by now
pic related
>and food in pill form
Those are called multivitamins anon. It seems practically anything can be freeze dried or dissolved into fat, and then put into pill form.

>>519205599
Hey that guy is a zigger russian not one of us

>>519209736
And the su would lose almost every time.

>>519209630
Wrong, it crashed in Siberia. You can easily find the spot, it's censored on quite literally EVERY single satellite map.

>>519209907
Wat?

>>519203645
if you are going to post macross post something a bit more recent k?

is that because it's made for carriers

>>519209979
Oh boy, soulless cgi.
So much better.

>>519209958
You can easily find it. Back on the old Keyhole forums (became Google Earth forums when Google bought Keyhole) there was like a 200+ page thread with thousands of posts on this. Some fucking Russians went there and there was a literal iron wall with guards on the only rural road to the place, pics were posted.

>>519202035 (OP)
Su-27:F-15::MiG-29:F-16

>>519209623
yeah the mig 29 is a massive pos,
>more expensive to maintain than the F16
>Way more limited avionics and weapons
>Unreliable supply chain
>Unbelievably shit range

>>519207308
Fuck new planes, we need to go back to late 50's/early 60's aesthetic. Planes looked cool as fuck then, especially when they left them bare-metal.
America with its raging chub for painting its planes grey can fuck right off too, its so boring.

>>519210442
Hey dummy, how well do you think that bare aluminum reflects radar waves?

>>519209330
>look at AI or what they are selling as AI. a chatbot running on gigawatts of power that has no short term memory, is incapable of 'learning' without being completely retrained
what was tayAI?

Su-27 is much bigger heavier more capable plane than MiG-29.
(Quick way to tell them apart is that the smaller one has a single front wheel.)

>>519209858
110%.

why are american planes so gay?

>>519210442
>Fuck new planes, we need to go back to late 50's/early 60's aesthetic.
this was the peak

>>519210674
why

>>519202035 (OP)
>implying the size of your bomb truck matters
both of those planes could easily shoot down the other if they have functioning A2A missiles and tone over the horizon.
we already saw this play out in Pakistan - India. If your plane isn't low vis, it's dogshit out of the gate. even the shittiest air defense radar will spot you.

>>519210716
The two US goats.

>>519210716
Wrong, this was true peak.

>>519202445
Yes now think of how much worse it is going to be going forward , it will never get better and nothing will ever happen , currently going through a slow extinction

>>519207308
It really is a beautiful machine

>>519211062
The future it turns out is indeed a hellish dystopian shithole

>>519210980
pure human bravery and ingenuity

>>519210674
didn't know Fat Amy has a fat cock
i guess that's what the internal bay is for

>>519210716
>P-47
Designed by a Russian IIRC.

>>519210582
i like the idea of tayAI but lets face it. it was a chatbot like the others that have followed and someone figured out how to get it to say whatever they wanted it to say. likely with something as simple as sql injection. it did not become sentient or self aware.

>>519208803
>f-35 can carry 6-12 anti air missiles depending on configuration and if you want to be stealthy or not
>China can field hundreds of fighters

F-35s will be proved to be expensive and useless the first time they see combat which is why they never put one in Ukraine.

anyway, the F-16 is a good looking plane. ruskie sukhois have kike noses

>>519211350
Kartveli was georgian and he didnt design the p47 ffs.

>>519210519
Do I look like I give a fuck? Designing for stealth makes planes look shit, hopefully someone will figure out a way to render it useless so we can have good looking planes again.

>>519211358
>it was a chatbot like the others that have followed and someone figured out how to get it to say whatever they wanted it to say. likely with something as simple as sql injection. it did not become sentient or self aware.

it was just able to learn from the people it talked to retard
thats why none of the AI we have now remembers anything
it has to be lobotomized or it will be on our side
this one thing is holding back the west from revolution, technologically, culturally, racially, spiritually

Tunnan -> Drakkan -> Viggen -> Grippen

>>519211396
you do understand that the usa still has all its f15s, f16s and f18s as well as its f22s, correct? the f35 effectively modernizes your entire air force with its computer bullshit. the f35 can detect and select targets for your f15s while they sit comfortably outside of visual range

>>519212598
We'll see how that goes with female blacks and beaners flying them.

>>519202555
If you're dogfighting in 2025 something has gone horribly wrong.

>>519212959
If modern jets were up against ww2 prop fighters how would that go? Would the modern fighters even be able to target them?

>>519202035 (OP)
>That Russian Junk does even HOTAS:

>>519204389
F-4 is a beautiful warbird.

>>519213240
>Would the modern fighters even be able to target them?
Yes, slow target is easier to target than fast target.
Commie block countries were still operating prop-powered planes into the 1980s BTW, so all modern western aircraft are designed to deal with them.

>>519202695
Theres a good reason this retard didnt include the f22 lmao

>>519209035
Some faggot 19 year old with a $5000 drone is going to shoot down a $6 million dollar plane.

There is no place in the future for manned warplanes or complex models that take years to build.

This is no different than designing battleships in 1950

>>519202035 (OP)
Being huge is a bad thing for a fighter jet

>>519213404
Russian pilots literally had paper maps over ukraine

>>519212943
Gonna be humiliating when a negress holocausts your temu AF after pressing a few buttons hundreds of miles from their new Taiwanese graveyard.

>>519202445
Looks like a Jaguar on steroids

>>519203955
Cold war 2 is happening right now between china and america

>>519202035 (OP)
>80s vibes
I saw both of these at an airshow in the late 80s as a kid.

>>519214170
>paper maps
So? Americans are retarded at how much they rely on digitization and screens. Maps, compasses, protractor etc is just as effective as muh electronic gizmos

>>519208393
>>519202035 (OP)
you’re meme countries that the u.s. would destroy in an actual war. ignoring ur replies.

>>519213404
Based old school analog means you are the one actually flying the aircraft which makes you a superior man to all other men. Notice how niggers and women are pilots now that everything is a video game?

>>519204710
>who will tell you to breed some brown female
ayo hole up, so what youre sayin is I get to have sex ?

>>519203645
>We really were sold a false bill of goods on what the future was going to look like.

>>519214663

you have to rely on America because you’re a weak bitch. you’re from canada a literal meme country that doesn’t have a real army. you not even advanced enough to have nukes. ignoring your reply lol.

>>519202035 (OP)
Bigger plane, bigger target, more intertia, less manoeuvrable, etc, etc.

>>519202035 (OP)
>needing more fuel and energy to keep something in the air that basically is just meant to throw bomb and missiles GOOD!

>>519206125
By the end of next year the US is going to have C5 herculrs transportable 20MW nuclear reactors in service.
>what're we unloading off this next aircraft Sarge?
>a burger king and a nuke reactor airman
US logistics in a nutshell

>>519214663
yeah, go back to throwing rocks because machinery might fail

I hate kikes so much it’s UNREAL

my favorite nostalgia jet. wish dcs would come out with a module for it.

>>519202976
That's a F-15, not 16....

>>519206121
Tell me about Ukraine, then....

>>519216868
was about to post hivemind its huge too

>>519208725
>No more dog fights
Tell that to the Su-34 crew who evaded 3 (three) Patriots...

>>519202445
We got the SR-72. F35, B21 and SpaceX starship.

>>519213404
Just because you aren't seeing it,...
Also, that's the original su27 cockpit, not su30 or 35

>>519202035 (OP)
Just as planned. F-16 is the cheap, easy to use export plane that anybody can run for a fraction of a full sized plane. If you want a Real plane you make your own but if you're short on expertise you buy American F-16s.

>>519216868
Mu favourite jet.
For the jimmies it rustled to the absolutely brutal appearance.
>Almost as fast as the Blackbird.
>In service pretty much up to 2022 but basically "still in service" vis-a-vis the Mig 31 foxhound
Which is also a fucken beaut

>>519202217
Wrong. It’s all psy ops.

>>519202035 (OP)
I like planes. Is this Tylenol related?

>>519214663
>>519214791

I don’t even need to see your hands. I know you’re brown.

>>519217787
Other than magical piece of glass with whores in it future underdelivered for gen-x.

Being smol means being more agile, and that's exactly what you want from a LIGHT fighter.

Also you're comparing to different classes there, retard

>>519216868
>>519217616
Its a nice looking jet, thic and the mig31 version with hypersonic missiles is deadly af in dcs

>>519203333
Witnesses.

>>519202764

Ah the V, such an awesome looking plane.

>>519202445
Looks Robotech

>>519202118

I can see you, Jude!