Thread 519212768

For roughly 34 billion dollars this system can send a human capable payload to mars for $3,800 a KG. Equivalent to the lowest cost Falcon 9 payloads. The ESA can currently send a non human payload to mars for over 2 million dollars a KG. The cost is a third of the Artemis program and you better hope and demand America builds one first.

>>519212768 (OP)
Doesn’t musk most efficient launcher cost 1200 a kg

It is also worth noting that a VPSL system does not suffer from the tyranny of the rocket principal and its energy demands scale better. This system can be slow charged and does not require vast networks of energy infrastructure or capacitor banks.

>>519212912
If it's that cheap it is to LEO only. VPSL can do it cheaper.

>>519212768 (OP)
>send a human capable payload to mars
what for?
Mars is a dead rock and there is nothing on it that we need.
>colonize the solar system
this is also retarded. there are no earth like planets in this solar system and the ones who possibly are are so far away we wouldnt even reach them even if we go lightspeed.

>>519212768 (OP)
THOSE THREADS WILL STRIP AND JAM. ZOOMER ENGINEERS DUMB AS FUCK!!

From 0 to 11000 m/s over what distance and time? Humans are pretty jiggly and can't handle massive G forces. Seems like you'd need a pretty long tube and for construction I would guess you would probably want to dig a big hole instead of building a big tower. Still, I'd like to see the napkin math. Seems like it wouldn't work for manned flights that well.

>>519213228
because we can terraform it! how? well we'll take all the life sustaining substances here and send it over there!

>>519213228
Exploration breeds innovation and the species needs to have a insurance policy colonizing mars. Mars is just a logistics problem waiting to reward a future civilization with dominance over the solar system and the resources it contains that are necessary to push humanity forward.

>>519213388
shhh this is the internet and we are talking about soience. reason doesnt belong here shoe shoe

>>519213385
They make no contact and are magnetically coupled.

>>519213388
Variable pitch allows them to fine tune the amount of G's in the acceleration curve to survivable for humans and sensitive payloads.

>>519213450
>because we can terraform it!
thats not doable tho.
>>519213460
>Exploration
we can explore it just fine using unmanned drones.
>colonizing mars
would you really like living in a tight underground bunker eating recycled nigger feces all day?

>>519213535
OH, IT'LL CONTACT. AND THE CREW INSIDE WILL BE HAMBURGER, DIVERSE HAMBURGERS.

>>519213639
Terraforming would cost as little as 40 standard nuclear reactors in L1 of mars generating an artificial magnetic field, from there adding an atmosphere would be simple. People crossed the oceans eating each other to put their names on the new world. There's millions waiting to do just as much and all the unimaginative need to do is be benefactors.

>>519212768 (OP)
Why does every break through look like the infancy of an alien technology?

Arent UFOs just this without the leadscrew?

>>519213930
If UFO's are real they move along geodesics using a form of negative or zero point energy so not comparable.

>>519213820
>Terraforming would cost as little as 40 standard nuclear reactors in L1 of mars generating an artificial magnetic field
thats not going to work, its more realistic that you would still be just sitting underground drinking recycled nigger piss.

>>519214198
It works easy, mars is just a logistics problem waiting on human will. I understand why the eternal kraut is trying to shoot it down when your future is muzzies but not everyone has to chose that fate.

>>519214198
>you would still be just sitting underground drinking recycled nigger piss.
keep your weekend fetish play to the appropriate board hanz

also a much better idea:

>tell retard mouthbreathers fantastic lies about what wonderful life awaits them in space
>show them AI generated content to convince them its real
>make retards sell everything they have so they can board one of the ships to populate mars
>shoot them into space
>drain oxygen from capsule and have useless eaters die on board in LEO
>the capsule empties its dead contents, returns and gets prepped for the next trip
>clone some of these dead people digitally with AI and have these fake AI clones convince others to join them in the mars colony
>overpopulation solved

>>519214412
the journey to mars takes many months so yes you would drink recycled nigger piss/shit.
and yes jews would absolutely force you to take niggers/jeets with you.
>>519214344
>It works easy
no it doesnt.

>>519213930
We already use alien technology en masse. Your smartphones chips literally utilize quantum mechanics we had no chance of “stumbling” upon.
T. ASML wagie

>>519213521
>>519213535
I guess, google says a rocket launch pulls about 3 G. So you can accelerate about 30 m/s but since gravity is in the opposite direction its only 20 m/s to pull 3 Gs I think. This means you would have to accelerate for 11000/20 seconds. That's 550 seconds. Since I'm retarded I'll just solve numerically, evaluating at each second. It's an underestimate but that gives us 3030500 m or 3030 km. So you need a 3000km tube. Even if you were pulling 10G the whole time which would kill a person you would need a 686km tube.

>>519212768 (OP)
>Can
>Maybe
>If
Yeah build it first and tell me how much it costs once you meet reality.

>>519212768 (OP)
C'mon China, make my government spend less money actively oppressing me and more on some new space race malarky

>>519214606
8G is sustainable for a launch with the system. They would be horizontal for it.

>>519213228
>there is nothing on it that we need
false, there could be valuable mineral deposits on mars or on asteroids within our solar system. Imagine if we could use mars to extract a million tons of titanium in the solar system's biggest open pit mine, since we can destroy the environment of mars or an asteroid without caring about loss of species or ecosystems here on earth. There are quite literally tons of valuable minerals that we can bring back to earth.

>>519214841
So you would need like a 700km tube. Plus it would still need to gradually curve upwards to vertical otherwise angular acceleration would be way higher than 8G. Same problem with making it a loop and accelerating inside then releasing. The angular acceleration is the problem.

>>519215006
>there could be valuable mineral deposits on mars or on asteroids within our solar system.
its cheaper and faster to get them from anywhere here on earth.

>>519215095
The other problem is if you are underground and releasing into thick ground level atmosphere at 11000 m/s you're going to have a heat problem. You would probably need it to be like tens of kilometers tall at release would be my guess but idk.

>>519212768 (OP)
>>519212948
DRUMPF!

>>519215095
It calls for a vacuum tube system terminating up a mountain incline or suspended by drones on launch. i don't know about 700km but its far more economically viable than pure chem rockets.

>>519215326
kek

Mars will be Chinese because Elon Musk refuses to stand up to jews.

>>519215403
Why not float in to outter space?
plebs

>>519213228
>an entire planetary surface worth of solar energy
>an entire planet's worth of possibly valuable minerals
>a planet closer to the asteroid belt that could be used as a launch pad for autonomous mining operations
Are you saying this isn't valuable?

>>519214060
But its eluded to they are pulled not pushed correct?

>>519212768 (OP)
This will only work for the first couple of kilometers, this could be useful for a space elevator, but that's about it.

>>519215159
>just stay at home!
>its much easier!
nah. you are welcome to stay though

>>519213228
>what for?
No J zone. No jeets, no jews

>>519215403
I mean I'm sure it would be a hybrid system of electromagnetic launch + chemical rocket.

Still, even without R+D and everything just building the tunnel is going to be expensive and then the rocket will still cost something that is launched out of it. What is a falcon 9 like 70 million dollars? How much of that price tag are you going to save? Remember also that solid fuel boosters, which you are essentially swapping for electromagnetic launch here are normally the cheapest parts. The liquid fuel and engine are much more expensive. Then if you system is costing 33 billion even if you are saving the full price of a falcon 9 which is then you would need to have 33000/70 = 471 launches for it to pay for itself ignoring all the other costs and maintenance.

>>519212768 (OP)
I'd like to screw your launch, if you know wha
wait
I'd like to launch your screw, if you catch m
wait
it's there somewhere, give me a minute

>>519215779
>an entire planetary surface worth of solar energy
mars isnt receiving a lot of sun and the energy cant be used for anything so no value here.
also cleaning all these solar panels is probably going to be a pain in the ass.
>an entire planet's worth of possibly valuable minerals
there is nothing valueable on mars.
>a planet closer to the asteroid belt that could be used as a launch pad for autonomous mining operations
we cant even get to the moon and you want to go even further.
also at the end of the day this is going to be way more expensive than buying it directly from china.

>>519215787
like falling from what I gather

https://www.uaptheory.com/geodesics/

>>519215958
you are welcome to board the ships see >>519214415
and thats about the only viable usecase for space. to get rid of useless eaters.

>>519216156
>4chan regular talking about useless eaters
kek.

>>519213228
yeah colonizing is retarded. first you need zero g steel manufacturing. so you will need a moon base because it's easy to land and transfer from the moon. once we can make lots of metal in space with minimal launch resources then we can build 1G stations. a big part of heating those stations is with the slag from metal manufacturing being formed as a solar reflector. mars is in hospitable and pointless when you cant even make artificial gravity.

>>519214415
There's a movie with this plot.

>>519212768 (OP)
This reads like scam email written by a retarded nigger.

>>519216036
That's their target and by 1000 its nearly pure profit. Ideally this thing would be launching very often and opening up deep space. The super heavy is going to need upwards of 20 missions to move things around. It makes logistics much more viable.

>>519213460
>Exploration breeds innovation
What drove innovation during the cold war was the battle of economical attrition, fought by the US to slowly wear down the Soviet economy, and that worked. Once the Soviet Union vanished, there was no longer a need to really innovate in the West, that's why everything went slowly to shit after the 90s.
Space exploration is a giant meme, we will never leave this solar system. The nearest star system to ours is the triple star system of Alpha Centauri, it's about 4.2 light years away or 25 trillion miles. It has two confirmed planets: Proxima b, an Earth-sized planet in the habitable zone discovered in 2016, and Proxima d, a candidate sub-Earth which orbits very closely to the star. The main issue with traversing such unimaginable giant distances, is that nothing can travel faster than light, which is capped at around 300,000 kilometres per second (671 million mph). The closer you get to light speed, the more energy you require to increase your speed further, with the energy requirement trending toward infinity as you approach light speed. Thus, nothing with mass can even reach the speed of light. It would take light, the fastest thing in the universe, roughly 4.2 years to reach Proxima Centauri. In comparison, the fastest craft we've ever made, the Parker Solar Probe, is flying through space at around 192,227 m/s (429,999 mph), or less than 1% the speed of light. It would take the Parker Solar Probe more than 6,600 years to travel the same distance. At a maximum speed of about 17,600 mph it would have taken a Space Shuttle about 165,000 years to reach the same destination. Another discovered planet is Epsilon Eridani b, at a distance 10.4 light years away. If the Sun were about the size of a baseball, and was being kept in New York, then the star Epsilon Eridani would be about as far away as Paris, the orbit of the planet would be a ring about 30 meters across, and the planet itself would be about the size of a pea.

>>519213228
>what for?
Are you kidding? As a German, this should be blatantly obvious to you. We need a way to ship raw materials to Mars so we can terraform it and then bring 20 billion somalis and indians to live with us there.

>>519216078
What did anon mean by these in-you-end-o's?

>>519216569
We need the solar system before the stars and building memes is what the future is all about. You can colonize the galaxy at sub light in a million years. That's a geological heartbeat.

>>519216338
>it's easy to land and transfer from the moon.
so easy mutts lost the technology to do it and nobody has been to the moon in 50+ years.

>>519216377
really?
>>519216725
>so we can terraform it
this doesnt work and is literally impossible to do.

>>519214415
The only people who over populate are sub humans.

>>519217090
>You can colonize the galaxy at sub light in a million years.
If this is true then were are all the aliens? The Earth is relatively young.

>>519217205
the status of subhuman is more an IQ thing and there are plenty of "white" people who are so retarded the world would be better off with them dead.
also it should be super easy to convince indians and africans and other types of brown mouthbreathers with AI footage to board the ship and die.
so its actually a pretty decent solution to the overpopulation question.

>>519212768 (OP)
If you asked a wizard he could send stuff to orbit for free!
The cost estimate is absolutely hilariously wrong.

>>519217292
We are seemingly supremely lucky. Out of the 5000 or so exoplanet systems we have scanned nothing is configured like the solar system. It might be entirely rare, but then we have only sampled thousands of billions. The other problem is temporal resolution due to distance, great filter, zoo theory, dark forest all that fun stuff. Life may be common but autistic life like us might be fairly rare. We also have an unusual star in a G dwarf, the red dwarfs that make up 80% of the local stars in the galaxy produce more radiation from activity on average and the planets are closer and tend to be tidally locked which makes them uninhabitable to our understanding.

>>519212768 (OP)
Kurzgesagt argues that a sling or "skyhook" system is the way to go. I know they are reddit, or onions tier, or whatever, but how are they wrong? This seems like the most efficient way to safely transfer cargo to space
https://youtu.be/dqwpQarrDwk?si=GrLMeu8sArY_Y9jJ

>>519212768 (OP)
I really hope one of you chucklefucks tries to make this happen so I can get a comfy ass job turning these massive fuck off threads on a VTL in 12 foot segments at a time. The gravy will run so thick I will bust in my shop apron

>>519217946
>I know they are reddit
actually they arent just reddit, they are directly funded by the jew Bill Gates and other globohomo jew billionaires.

>>519212768 (OP)
America has outsourced all its engineering and design positions.

The only thing wealthy Americans do for work is business administration and project management.

Everything else is jeet work.

>>519217946
Order of magnitude harder to build and maintain. Build a VPSL and you can just shoot up the materials for a space elevator cheaply and be good on orbital infrastructure to launch humanity into the solar system.

>>519218156
I like Bill Gates, and he isn't Jewish. I think he can be full of himself at times, but he isn't an evil cartoon character. Most of his work has been clearly beneficial

>>519218597
>I like Bill Gates, and he isn't Jewish
so you are jewish yourself and an actual retard.
how many covid boosters have you taken you circumcised moron?

>>519212768 (OP)
explain how to get ROI by sending shit into space? unless you plan on microwave sending massive amounts of power not sure other than jewish landgrabbing what money is to be made in space.

>>519218597
Guy was diddling kids on Epstein island and his wife left him cold for it. He murdered Africans with vaccines so he could all in on the clot shot. Guy is worse than a cartoon character. He is malice with tens of billions of dollars.

>>519218809
>He murdered Africans with vaccines
the only good thing he ever did, shame he is a genocidal jew freak that wants to kill all white people.

>>519218693
Sending shit to space results in 0G factories that produce metamaterials that will enable people to actually have a future from an energy and material security standpoint. Securing the resources of the inner solar system is going to be both needed but also represent such a glut of materials that scarcity will have to be given up as a business model mostly gated by production which can be solved by automation. We either do the hard logistics problems now and escape the confines of limited resources or we slowly spiral into another dark ages eating each other for a few hundred more years before we possibly bounce back. It also means a hedge against extinction. Mars being geologically dead is actually a boon so long as we generate a magnetic field and blow up asteroids we wont have to worry about a super volcano ending the species at least.

>>519213228
i'm more about the shit we can do on space stations in space
like better drugs
or fucking lasers
lasers making rubies
rubies paying for bigger lasers
indian seeking lasers fired from space
turning them into poobies

>>519216108
>mars isnt receiving a lot of sun
kek thanks for the laugh

>>519219125
a solar panel on Mars receives only about 40% of the sunlight a panel on Earth receives.

>>519219122
all useless.

>>519212768 (OP)
better use torx

>>519219090
>factories that produce metamaterials
not buying that at all.
>Securing the resources of the inner solar system is going to be both needed but also represent such a glut of materials that scarcity will have to be given up as a business model
nothing can be sent down to earth economically without burning up, so what is all this material in space going to do?
>mostly gated by production which can be solved by automation.
if automation worked, it would be used here now
> We either do the hard logistics problems now and escape the confines of limited resources or we slowly spiral into another dark ages eating each other for a few hundred more years before we possibly bounce back.
who is we. and you think that living like a refugee in and ONeill cylinder is going to be better than being on earth?
> It also means a hedge against extinction.
most things that wipe the board clean could sterilize the entire solar system at once.
>Mars being geologically dead is actually a boon so long as we generate a magnetic field and blow up asteroids we wont have to worry about a super volcano ending the species at least.
terraform mars will never happen. and who the fuck is "we"
you watch/read garbage tier sci-fi and have no concept of what needs to be done next.
here
ill tell you
- figure out how to control/treat/cure most cancers
- figure out how to control/stop/reverse ageing
- master fusion power
without those three, your fucking star trek shit in your head is prefucked.

>>519212768 (OP)
>Theoretically design
When will they have a working prototype for under a $100 trillion?

>>519213385
Yakuub?
Angstrom Levy Junior?

>>519219487
>figure out how to control/treat/cure most cancers
>figure out how to control/stop/reverse ageing
nobody actually wants mouthbreathing retards/useless eaters to live longer. its the opposite,they need to croak faster.
>master fusion power
another fake and gay pipedream. fusion is always 20 years away.

>>519214486
We can make it only take ~3-4 months with nuclear-thermal rockets. Just can't light those in atmosphere.
That could be a lot worse, our submarine crews are often down for longer.

>>519219668
>~3-4 months
still too long, also the planets must be aligned properly for this to work so you have this launch window only once every couple years or so.

>>519219646
cancer/aging has to be mastered or space will chew up biological beings in short order
if fusion cant be mastered, then space is too large to go anywhere.
even with total mastery of fusion, space is so laughable large its probably a bitmap background on some gay simulation earth game we are stuck in and its meant to be the ocean in GTA

>>519213535
Magnetic coupling at that scale, is a piece of shit. (We don't have the ability to isolate this, with a tight enough tolerance, to outweigh all potential system influences. A stray seagull could fuck this system to 100% failure.)

First corporation to build one of these will be the lead of the next Hindenburg.

We won't be building a second one.

>>519213820
>from there adding an atmosphere would be simple.
>moving a quintillion tons of gas through space would be simple

>>519213535
>Variable pitch
So an entire magrail launcher that can change angle with each launch.
Exactly how long will the track need to be? How much of it will need to move? How much does the movable part actuate? How much does the movable part weight? How many launches is the service life of this? How much of it is going to be high wear parts with a short service life?

>>519213820
>Creating an artificial magnetic field on a planetary scale with tech that has never been built or designed yet is the same as centuries of ship design and sailing being used to settle the Americas.
Lol, LMAO even

>>519219593
When they advertise we can send rods from God into India with this

>>519212768 (OP)
mars will be the end of the line for mankind

>>519214060
>An unknown and unproven myth can only work this way
Damn, the loony troon is going off the deep end.

>itt People that believe sci-fi can automatically be real and work as depicted by authors.

FTL anything in this Universe is constraint bound.
Those constraints are tied to a puppet master system.

You don't have to believe in God, to realize there are constraints over capability within 3D baryonic space-time that are insurmountable for space rock primates.

We found the most useful tool in the Universe, raw intelligence.
We should get off this physical exploration fad, and focus on consciousness utilization, and Boltzmann ready systems.

The only way we are traveling to another galaxy, is if we kill a conscious observer, that is bootstrapped for a Boltzmann journey, and they make their way back.

Large separation Boltzmann instances are not diodic.

You can return to this very instance of Earth, post death.
You just need to know what the fuck you're doing, and how to do it.

Source: Dream It.

Blue Eisenhower November

>>519219487
Most metamaterials require 0G and or a perfect vacuum to produce. Things like producing a reliable excitonic insulator will likely emerge from it. Which means EM proof materials that can be used for ultra low power compute and preserving the 20-30 years you would lose off your life taking a chemical rocket around the solar system and trying to live on mars initially. We is whoever intends to inherit the solar system and it should be America if it has any sense at all. As soon as the moon is exploited you can have a depot with infinite heat shielding made of regolith or you send up heat shields for cargo. They land probes by crashing gracefully and preserve precious cargo including humans it can go up in complexity as needed. Orbital launch gets you a space elevator which makes everything dirt cheap and just works. Having a hedge is better than none and it drives humanity forward. Unless you want this to continue to go towards favela Brazil planet you should aim for space. Terraforming mars is a logistics problem simple as. Fusion is a meme when thorium is more than capable, chang already has 30% age reduction on monkeys with modified human stem cells and you probably wont get it as a pleb unless you support Terran solar supremacy, cancer is also gated by advanced material science and research but mostly your food systems and the fact that you're dependent on earth based infrastructure poisoning you. We should be producing pollution is space where it's just a resource to warm up mars. There's no star trek in my head there's just logistics problems within our technological grasp that require human will. Whoever does it inherits the solar system. Changs are beating us to it even with Musk being a Darpa front man.

>>519213639
We've got maybe 100 million jeets jews and niggers that are dumb enough to be convinced to go...
Is that our end game plan bois? Did I just leak our pro gamer strats?

It's funny how all their experiments, tests, devices and shots in the dark are all the bitch of a wall outlet yet they still believe in launching themselves with the lost potential of that, or god forbid fucking bottle rockets. They go inventing concepts and other "forces" using one fucking force, it's hilariously ironic. So inept they can't even make a SMOT properly anymore.

>>519220177
If you think light travels and "has a speed" then you must also believe it it somehow travels at that speed "in a vacuum" despite its presence defeating it being a "vacuum".

>>519220241
ah yes the metamaterials in zero g lead to immortality and lunar gas stations manifesto a true classic of reddit grade futurist delusion
one can almost hear the youtube algorithm whispering in his ear say excitonic insulator again it sounds smart the guy just learned the word regolith yesterday and now "we" are ready to terraform mars with his hot wheels set and a darpa branded elon musk action figure
"we" out here connecting thorium reactors stem cell rejuvenation and pollution as a mars heater like a kid dumping his lego bucket on the floor and calling it systems engineering every sentence reads like it started with a joe rogan clip passed through a crypto discord and got blessed by the ghost of buzz aldrins least favorite redditor
the only metamaterial here is the clotshot spike proteins holding the neurons together

>>519220577
Having to resort to GPT abuse because you're that mad lmao.

>>519220747
no, its just that your shit is so fucking dumb i didnt want to bother writing the hit piece against all your fucking complete horse shit
you are a fucking moron talking about terraforming mars.

>>519220347
>can still only work with EM fields
difficulties of scale, pls understand

>>519220747
>Terraforming mars is a logistics problem simple as.
this has to be one of the stupidest things i have ever read here. like ever. congrats.

>>519220824
You make the claims I shoot them down, don't pull that zoomer shit on me youngling you're just a debbie downer shabbos hustler like the rest that looks down all the time. You fuck off back to preddit where you belong.

>>519220549
Vacuum, light, etc... doesn't mean shit to me.
That's primate crap.

All of those things are just data streams.

Your interpreters are stuck on experiential systems tied to explicit Planck continuity, a false assumption, for a true intelligent thinker.

"Humans are in a rat maze, believe they are rats, and are looking for cheese.
You need to be staring at the walls of the maze, understanding that there is a whole lot more wall available than there is cheese, and figuring out how to eat the walls instead." -BEN317 2025

>>519220923
ok, genius. do a space startup and collect money rather than (You)s
you are a fucking moron, nobody is buying your total recall incorporated space stocks.

>>519213388
This would not be for humans you dumb jeet

>>519213385
>White women would rather be a single mother for a nigger nugget than spend her life with a White man

>>519221009
No one is buying your unit 8200 demoralization campaign either moishe.

>>519213930
Every "breakthrough" is just another bitch to a rotating magnetic field, as Tesla predicted over 100 years ago. The only reason we having utilized the same fields to travel is because a group of quantum retards keeps using halbach arrays to invent new atomized names for magnetic farts and so they can build countless tokamak "reactors" knowing full well each one won't work before they build them. There's also one special retard in particular bastardizing tesla's name by making a car that actually does utilize this tech but in the most wasteful and useless manner by implementing batteries instead of a petrol motor generating electrical power like the actual Tesla wanted.

You're stuck on a planet full of rock apes who don't know how the polarized rocks work and the worst part is they don't even care to answer it. Why?" Because they're stupid and think they already know the answer.

>>519220923
>You fuck off back to preddit where you belong.
you are bad at profiling, im the furthest thing from a plebbitor, in fact, your pie in the sky dog shit is plebbit tier crap.
and shabbos goy? i cant go 15 minutes without cursing the kikes audibly.
you think you arent armchair smart man
you are a fucking moron talking shit and are useless. and if you knew so much about colonizing space, you would have a startup and be funded, but you couldnt even put a pitch deck together on why you should kill yourself much less something investable.

>>519221173
Debbie downer looking at the ground all the time so angry his mind can't travel just his angry little jewish rat hands.

>>519221102
jews are the ones pushing that space isnt fake and gay shit. again, you are trying to call me, someone who rails against the disgraceful things the kikes to on nearly every post, moshe.
fuck you kike
fuck your fake and gay space
fuck your pie in the sky bullshit while the plebs burn in jewish hell
TKD now.

>>519221236
>Debbie downer looking at the ground all the time so angry his mind can't travel just his angry little jewish rat hands.
when you accept reality, the only way to go is up.
but your fucking jew fantasy is just meant to capture people's attention to keep them from improving things that are actually obtainable.
what do you sell in real life kike? some toys based on these space opera dreams you sell while cancer ravages people and you count your shekels, kike?

>>519221074
Its mother is black you stupid pajeet

>>519221262
You are the slimiest and most atrocious gorilla double jew trying to keep America from the Terran solar supremacy. You're an odious long nosed lamp shade imposter of a kike that should be sporting a meme flag you brownoid coded defeatist.

>>519221376
nobody is stopping you fuckhead.
lead by example.
somehow all these space niggers seem to be collecting are checks to repeat what has been done already

>>519213820
That’s not the hard part. There isn’t enough nitrogen on hydrogen on mars to make an atmosphere to sustain life. Shipping in enough mass in the form of comets to do so would elevate planet temperature too high to support life due to imparted energy from momentum. Worse than that the Martian soil is full of perchlorites which would produce a hyper acidic environment that is not conducive to metabolism.
You’d end up with an acidic brine water.

>>519221404
They're already clawing at it very publicly, this thread is for people to demand their government take action because Chang will build this before us at this rate. But nah you just want to perm your jew fro in my thread and you should fuck off back to preddit with the other diverse defeatist waiting on your mulatto mongrel version of the world to come.

>>519219749
Why too long with a properly-engineered spacecraft? We've had people on the ISS for longer. Also, so what about launch windows? That was already accounted for.

>>519221533
k
you realize that without TKD
nothing gets built.
and the reason chang even has a chance to "beat" anyone to anything is the west is strangled by fucking kikes stealing everything.
until TKD happens, i just dont care.

>>519221533
SpaceX just did another suborbital Starship test, and it was a hell of a lot less sketchy than #10. I'm not worried, China doesn't have an equivalent system planned until ~2040. Long March 9 is a Temu Starship.

>>519221468
They make good oxidizer and propellent and can be used for industry initially, the process will take a good amount of time and the rest can be dealt with. There's nitrates in the soil and you can use modified Haber–Bosch. It will be hard but not impossible.

>>519221664
>30 shekels were deposited in your account by the ADL

>>519221533
>We need to build this entirely theoretically multi trillion dollar project, because China
You have a shit written scifi understanding of how reality works. You can't even answer any basic questions without spewing verbal diarrhea with random unprovable speculation, and your only actual response is
>People need to protest the government until enough money is spent
Do the world a favor and KYS

>>519221912
There isn’t enough in the regolith to make an atmosphere
If you have seen papers otherwise I’d be interested

>>519221912
>They make good oxidizer and propellent
Your plan doesn't even have a proof of concept build of your initial launch system. How about figure that out before making random speculation over stage you have no chance of achieving, every at your rate.

>>519221850
They are on schedule to beat artemis and they have the industrial base to surpass space x in volume

>>519221948
34 billion and realistically America should spend as much as is necessary to secure space as the proceeds are exponential and the only feasible way it escapes its exponential debt. Because China is right, they are poised to inherit the world if America continues its path of decline and wasting its resources on pointless war and propping up pointless nations. They are leading in every field scientifically. The only thing America has a hedge on right now is AI slop. The decisions made in the next 20 decide the next 200 people should be paying attention.

>>519212768 (OP)
>$3,800 a KG. Equivalent to the lowest cost Falcon 9 payloads
That's what they charge people since there is no competition, not what it costs.

>>519222209
My plan is that America build a VPSL, beyond that everything is speculation and material and logistics limits. You really are just a bunch of debbie downer preddit niggers on this board and it's not endearing. You come up with something besides being bixnood in the thread.

>>519222179
>The AI singularity power by solar wind farts and unibtainium reactors will provide the solution and usher in utopia.
If you haven't figured out by now OP is a marvel søybiō drooling over its latest sci-fi fantasy.

>>519222259
>We can reach mars for less than it would cost to replace 3 aircraft carriers
Again faggot, you are advocating a theoretically technology. That is a minimum of 100 trillion in R&D to get just a proof of concept, triple that for a functional prototype.
KYS shit for brains.

>>519222519
Says the unit 8200 bot that's upset this isn't the 99% demoralization content you want

>>519215095
You don't need to go upwards to leave the planet if you have the required escape velocity.
Just... don't collide with the planet.

>>519218809
>>519218663
He's basically Mr Burns from the Simpsons

>>519213228
Don't listen the Jews, they want you to leave the planet

>>519213228
Von Braun would be rolling in his grave turkroach

>>519222731
We can attain $3,800 a KG human capable for a third of artemis cost. You bunch of jewmies are always the same. You infer your own baloney from that and then act like it's my plan lmao. The premise is that is way ahead of space X from a cost perspective and should be pursued. If you cared about civilization advancing amidst a very real and dire geopolitical struggle.

But oh no it's not demoralization porn or gore so you're upset. Fuck off you brownoid beast.

>>519222484
>VPSL
Again an entirely theoretically tech.
You can't even answer anything about development, just spend more because China.
You have made zero argument, just fear mongering and gaslighting.
KYS

>>519213228
>and the ones who possibly are are so far away we wouldnt even reach them even if we go lightspeed

You're like right and wrong. If we could achieve lightspeed we could send people anywhere in the universe instantaneously. Things that move at C do not experience time. So if humans were to board a vessel travelling at C. And their destination was 100 light years away. They would experience no travel time and to them it would appear they immediately travelled 100 light years immediately. The problem is that for us here on earth. 100 years would have to go by before they actually got there.

Remember information is also bound to C. So imagine if you were to communicate with these people you sent off 100 light years away. You would have to immediately also send a message to them saying like "how was your arrival at your destination."

Where the people who got there would also be greeted with the message just after they get there. They then reply to you saying "we have arrived at the destination." And immediately send the message back to us. It would then take another 100 years just for us to receive it.

So in reality 200 years would pass before we could even hear back from them.

The closest one is Alpha Centauri B which is like 4.2 light years away. So you're looking at 8.4 years of roundtrip communications with whoever we sent there.

>>519213460
Its 1/3 of our gravity lol. Humans will not survive long term on Mars.

>>519222871
What will they rule over if we did

>>519222792
>If you don't spend trillions on a scifi pipedream you are and isreali shill
KYS loony troon

>>519212768 (OP)
We're not going anywhere.

>>519212768 (OP)
i could come up with a better launching mechanism than this trash.
hell, even a coilgun design would be better than this trash.

>>519213228
Earth like conditions will, within a couple centuries, be irrelevant. We will adapt our bodies to forms more suited to the void. This is inevitable as those who shy away from doing so will be trapped in the gravity well and rapidly become outnumbered millions to one as an evolutionary dead end.

>>519223171
Better money spent than on niggers and Israel

>>519223037
We either surpass China is space in the here and now or we give it up. They do not play by our rules. They do not play peace through strength they play strike when the advantage is most disproportionate. They build infrastructure and are advancing in every field while service economy America is about to suck start a shotgun economically. To pretend that China is not out main concern is to be as fake and gay as you are.

>>519223104
they would adapt and take on a more round or lanky appearance, like goblins

but "going to mars" is just coms, its actual purpose is to manipulate the population into accepting war

>>519222947
>We can attain $3,800 a KG human capable for a third of artemis cost
Again completely unfounded speculation. 90% of the material and tech need has not been made. So how can you know the cost of material that is impossible to manufacture at this time?
Explain this supposed cost perspective in detail. Because you have been questioned on it multiple times and have utterly failed to answer.

>>519223380
If you wanted it so bad you would do your own research you circus nigger. I know how all you citation demoralization jews work so go satisfy yourself. You aren't interested in that though you're just a broccoli disabled sperg having a fit and I do not pity you or care for you I am simply delighted you are so bothered you have to perform for us.

>>519223290
>Reee china number wan
China is struggling to manufacture shit that was perfected and made obsolete in the 50s and 60s here. They do not develop shit, they can only copy.

>>519223610
We said it would take them 20 to do chip fab and they did it in 2. You have a bad case of boomer brain being temporally locked in the 70's when America still had a manufacturing and research base.

>>519223362
No they would not lmfao. Evolution adaptability is based simply on those with specific traits continuously breeding that survive based on their environment. Humans don't have some like innate physiological trait that simply allows is to adapt on the fly. We are still animals. Our "adaptability" comes from our ability to utilize tools to survive in different extremes. Think like siberia. We can have a non insignificant amount of people living in Siberia simply because we have the ability to efficiently generate heat and logistics chains to keep people fed in harsh environments.

So what technology would we use to keep our bones and organs from failing in an environment in which is 1/3 the gravity of what our physiology adapted to over millions of years lol.

>>519223550
>I don't have to prove my unfounded claims
You lost, give up.

>>519223717
They still haven't made any Chinese designs in chip fab.
They make American designs with German machines, while supervised by foreign techs to ensure quality control.
Just more poor quality copies of what the rest of the world has been doing for decades.

>>519223380
>90% of the material and tech need has not been made
I think they should test and make the materials and tech on a smaller scale then. It's worth investigating.

>>519223780
I never played your game the way you wanted. You have no win condition. Only the knowledge you have enriched my evening. They are poaching the best and soaking up all that IP while producing half of Raytheons munitions for shits and giggles. Unless you want to learn mandarin you better start caring about Chang.

>>519221656
>We've had people on the ISS for longer
the ISS isnt outside of earths magnetic field.

>>519222905
he should be rolling in it regardless because of the fake moon landings.

>>519224037
I've never really understood this thought. You're saying like the USA is going to lose to China essentially. And that we will all have to learn mandarin... because? The USA is on top right now based on your arguments. Do all the Chinese have to learn English?

>>519223956
The thing OP refuses to touch on is the magnets. The strength need to hit OPs claimed cost to launch is about 10x higher than the best test material being developed for fusion reactors. This is a hard wall in material science that has burned through trillions for fractional improvements, and OP thinks a few billion will move it forward by magnitudes.

Also another funny one. Lets say we can travel at the speed of light. What do you guys think would happen if the ship travelling at the speed of light were to come into contact with space dust on its journey?

>>519224037
Again, zero argument just a looney troon coping and seething.
KYS /pol/ has faith you will be successful for at least one thing in your miserable life.

>>519224168
I'm saying that the last real option America has is to push for space as hard as it can because it's mediocre and faltering in pretty much every other metric and will be surpassed in the near future. It already can't defend Taiwan it just sabre rattles but we find out how that goes in 2027. Hopefully not with a carrier strike ground on the ocean floor. I would rather America be exceptional than turn into a favela third world shithole myself and that's where were going unless we set some pretty high targets.

>>519222259
>the proceeds are exponential
What base? Precisely?

>>519224343
You will be gone long before me lmao. Probably live stream it too.

>>519224399
You could launch enough solar cheaply to power the planet wirelessly for one.

>>519223550
>you citation demoralization jews
What do you think the effects on morale are if the proponents of something cool reliably fail to substantiate their claims?

>>519212768 (OP)
>11000m/s
going to splat the crew, retard. will it not. the initial accelleration is going to turn them into minced meat.

>>519224555
>It can be solar powered
LMAO

>>519213388
Checked. You can have it cheap or you can have it done optimally. This is $3800/kg
Space exploration is simply a cover for military spying. It only heats up when war is impending, with the cover to justify the costs to civilians. Even the moon landing astronauts admitted a couple decades ago, that they were on spy missions. It's why they were all high security clearance military pilots. Along with boasting dual use military tech to your rivals. Anyone who actually thinks that govts want to waste a ton of money to visit a rock are tarded normiea

>>519224623
The only people I care about are the ones who see something and want to research it on their own. I think the concept is nice and it's better than the demoralization smut that passes as content here. I don't care if the resident porch niggers start shouting citation and get all basedjack. They just increase the probability that another person might research it. Everything else is just fun and watching this zoo.

we dont have gaylien tech for space, were not synthetic and quantum entangled all our tech is garbage bullshit papermashe and aluminum foil.

its all bullshit.

>>519224555
"Exponential" refers to a specific mathematical relationship, of the form y=c^x or derivatives. In your claim of "exponential" proceeds, what is c?

>>519213228
Shut the fuck up swarthoid lover, some of us wanna not spend all our taxes on niggers and ukraine

>>519224766
Now I know you're a tourist that was never in a space elevator thread you maggot.

they papermashe up this one gaycraft and put in a studio to film then you give them 500 billion for this, off course its all a scamm because you love tobe scammed. you love the lies, you love living a lie. stop pretending.

>>519224822
People would be more able to research it on their own if you explained how you reached your conclusions. You reached those conclusions somehow, right?

>>519224868
>Solar power AI singularity, trust the science bro
Don't bother, its view is entirely based off of Sharknado tier sci-fi.

>>519224883
>some of us wanna not spend all our taxes on niggers and ukraine
so you'd like to spend it on useless sci fi dreams that will never become reality.
how is that any better?
in your version and the current version jews get your money regardless.
so basically what you are saying is you want a different flavor of propaganda so you feel like your taxes were used for something useful.

>>519224907
>No you a dumb nigger, this other sci-fi wet dream is total possible once we discover unibtainium.
LMAO, you are not helping yourself.

no no no mein paper mashe shitcraft can totally propulse itself through a sea of plasmaahahahahAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

>>519213228
mars is too cold and and almost nonexistent atmosphere

venus is better target, just shoot it with anything that lives and eventually it terraforms itself

>>519213228
You wouldn't get it (because you're either brown or a woman)

>>519225159
>venus is better target
no

>>519225019
Anyone with a grasp of macroeconomics could surmise that a large reduction in the cost of LEO and solar system access would spur large amounts of growth and opportunity. I already understand your schtick and it doesn't stick.

>>519225159
It's a lot easier to maintain a habitat in a cold, low-pressure environment than in a hot, high-pressure environment. And the energy input required to terraform Venus is orders of magnitude larger than for Mars.

>>519225248
>cant even make an argument
I take your seething and lack of argument as a concession.
better luck next time you gook.

>>519225159
there wont be no mars, ever. schmelong katursk is 54 now, he will stall until hes dead. mars is bullshit.

homo sapien around for ~300,000 years?
went from stone age to sending rockets to mars in 5,000 years?

what happened those other 295,000 years?

mars is cope for the billionaires, they dont want to see that they ruined our planet with their greed and were all going to die on this rock.

>>519225321
Depends on the specifics. So how, specifically, did you reach those conclusions?

>>519212768 (OP)
I thought this shit only works on low gravities, like you could build this on the moon and maybe even Mars and it would work great. Not so much on Earth because of both the gravity and the atmosphere fighting back.

>>519225353
>what happened those other 295,000 years?
humans living in balance with nature.

>>519225148
Nothing here is unobtainable. When one of you can upend the company behind this you should you could probably monetize it on kiketube or find some other way to apply jeetery to it.

>>519225367
Correct. That also doesn't mean we can't do useful things in our immediate vicinity.

>>519213228
>who possibly are are so far away we wouldnt even reach them even if we go lightspeed.
Nearest Earth-like planet is 20 light years away. With current tech it takes thousands of years to get to it, but with close to Light Years it wouldn't be completely unfeasible.

>>519225321
>No I won't explain how spending trillions on unknown tech will work, my speculation on the cost is more than enough
LMAO
Typical loony troon.

>>519225353
Information was passed down orally (as opposed to writing), so knowledge could not build up beyond what individual people could remember and tell others. And while anatomically modern humans are about 300k years old, behaviorally modern humans are about a fifth of that. There seems to have been some significant brain developments some 60k years ago.

Whats even funnier is that if humans DON'T figure our a way to get to another planet outside our solar system. Then eventually the sun WILL expand and consume our planet before shrinking and going dormant. And then humans will also need to figure out how to create artifical stars eventually but even then they will run out LOL.

>>519213228
Nigger mindset. If there's no earthlike planets in the solar system, we'll just make one, and then more.

>>519225493
>Nearest Earth-like planet is 20 light years away.
or so they say, if thats actually true or not is everyones guess.

>>519225493
And you'd have a 40 year round trip communication window with them LOL

>>519225452
>Nothing here is unobtainable.
How about a 100 Tesla magnet?

>>519225901
>we'll just make one
impossible

>>519225353
Developing language, alphabet, tool usage, agriculture, animal domestication.

>>519225935
The nearest earth like is 4.2 years but even then. WE WON'T KNOW IF ITS ACTUALLY HABITABLE UNTILL WE GET THERE.

>>519226054
and then you arrive there and its already poopulated by jeets.
kek

>>519225888
>And then humans will also need to figure out how to create artifical stars eventually
This is a really inefficient use of resources. A civilization bound by a current understanding of the laws of physics and interested in long-term survival would instead dismantle stars to keep them from wasting energy.

>>519225888
oh yea in 10 billion years the sun will expand bro, whats thats for bullshit is this new cope to tell me the planet would have gone to shit anyway. fucking horseshit.

the billionaires ruined the planet together with their goons, thats it. its all on them, not the sun.

>>519212768 (OP)
A human could not survive that acceleration. What the fuck are you launching that fast other than a rod of titanium

>>519225452
>you could probably monetize it on kiketube or find some other way to apply jeetery to it, will definitely develop materials the best engineers have been failing to make since the 30s
So what are you going to use hemp rope to make a green space elevator, maybe add some wind turbines to turn a bit of side profit also. Maybe even a few hippie communes at nice altitudes. A community garden can be on the landing platform in orbit.
LMAO

Science fiction got the order wrong

Is not FTL > terraforming > ring worlds > dyson sphere
But is ring worlds + dyson sphere > MAYBE terraforming and FTL being very unlikely if ever.

Automated drones will colonize solar stystem for us, building wonders with no actual uman hand.

women vote shit and are shit. the end.

no copes.

>>519216377
name?

>>519226243
science fiction got it all wrong.
there is no leaving this earth, there is no terraforming, there is no ring worlds or other crap.
>Automated drones will
nigga they struggle to keep a single shitty rover operational.

>>519226170
Lmfao. Jeets develop FTL. Also btw. FTL is time travel so it cannot happen kek. That is more a comment for other readers.

>>519226205
Oh no I'm in agreement with you. I'm just stating that is an inevitability on the chance that humans continue for that long.

>>519226370
>Jeets develop FTL.
I meant like the planet is already populated by jeets who formed there naturally.
so instead of cow shit they eat the shit of some other bovine like animal and the space jeets are brown and stink too.
kek

>>519226243
FTL is time travel. It cannot exist lol

>>519213228
>nigger can’t into exploration
New planets and solar systems can lead to discovery of life, minerals, and gasses that can further evolve society instead fizzling out from being overrun by retarded jeets and niggers

>>519225375
I figured it would piss off Muskovites and I believe it has merit and promise based on that alone

>>519212768 (OP)
Like OP, space is fake, Jewish, and gay.

>>519226517
you dont need manned missions for exploration tyreese.

the people are not caring anyway. they can set the whole planet on fire and no one cares. no one ever cares.

>>519226579
We care about things that are not fake Jewish and gay Hans

you sit here for 2 decades and try to save people WHO DONT FUCKING CARE.

>>519212768 (OP)
Won't get past the firmament, sorry

>>519212768 (OP)
we don't have the metallurgical technology to create a viable VPSL. they've been talking about this shit as long as nuclear fusion

>>519212768 (OP)
Does this mean we can launch jews into the sun now?

>>519213639
Colonizing would be retarded, it should be made a way station at most until more powerful and efficient propulsion is developed

it will only get worse, the problem of earth are all these people with no soul or the soul of a bottom feeding demon.

>>519214415
Why not just take a vax?

>>519213228
This attitude is why India launches more rockets than all of Europe

>>519226916
because with the space depopulation you can steal more money.

>>519226222
Blame the patent office for those advances never making it to civilian hands. Everything posited is within the realm of current tech. Solar can generate about a trillion a year providing a great deal of global energy and is low hanging fruit. Elevator gets built to whatever is best spec there's 3 main candidates already proposed. Elevator would be hundreds of trillions in potential derivatives simply exploiting the easiest asteroids remotely. Your money is not being spent on anything better and is all just pure debt that you will never pay. Best way to end it is to mine Psyche.

>>519212768 (OP)
Wont there be a TON of wear on the screw itself?
How is this any different than the deformation on the rail guides and magnets.
From the drawing and pic this looks like a high acceleration system so you can only launch super durable components or just raw material.
I think they best play is to send up equipment that can be used to create build more of itself from objects already outside of the gravity well, like asteroids for example. Granted the humans you send up will escape and form new cultures but that is inevitable anyways.

>>519227348
>Everything posited is within the realm of current tech.
So where can one buy 100 Tesla magnets?

>>519227350
You should email them and get back to me.

>>519226575
A fleet of humans with tools are much more dynamic for exploration than a single drone that can vaguely scan the surface and be incapable of making independent decisions completely dependent on a radio signal reaching uninterrupted

>>519213228
You are a fucking Turk or Arab.
You lack the German Faustian Spirit

>>519227350
meant for
>>519227451
The parts make no contact

>>519227678
So where can one buy 100 Tesla magnets?

>>519227610
not really no.
>>519227670
nope, but you are some sort of brown person for sure since you believe in jewish science fiction.
you'd also be a prime candidate for my depopulation scheme that sends retards like you to orbit to die.

>>519227764
You should email them if you have technical questions

>>519215958
You’re talking like there’s a chance in hell you will leave this planet in your lifetime. You won’t even see the beginnings of mars colonization before you croak. But I guess some 22nd century billionaires will get to have slaves and lawless ancap colonies on mars. Anyone who willingly signs up to live on a mars colony is a complete fucking retard. You’ll never come back from there

>>519213388
You'd be surprised, anon. A test subject survived 46.5G for a brief time. An astronaut experiences only around 3G during launch.

>>519212768 (OP)
>SpinLaunch says hello

and both suffer from the same problem: supersonic travel through the atmosphere once you leave the launch apparatus

>>519213388
neither of them are designed for people or other fragile cargo. It would be for bulk material or hardened cargo that can survive multiple 10s of Gs acceleration and deceleration.

>>519213820
>40 "standard" reactors at L1
You might want to read up on what the terms you used mean.

>>519227792
>nuh-uh
Actual jeet

>>519212768 (OP)
>$33bn
It is a 33 so nonsense. Where is the link anyway, poof.

>>519227845
>Anyone who willingly signs up to live on a mars colony is a complete fucking retard.
its really attractive for globalist cucks.
>live in a pod
>eat bugs and recycled feces
>the air is taxed
>everything in the space colony is highly controlled and every person is monitored
>the money will all be digital cbdc shit
>vaccines will be mandatory and there is no way to escape from that
its a bugmans wet dream.

>>519212768 (OP)
Absolutel nonsense. You end up losing so much energy. You have to turn the entire screw length which requires turning a lot of unnecessary mass for a small amount of contact area. That or you have to use multiple shorter screw lengths and multiple motors to drive them which make it easy more complex, inefficient, and far more likely to fail and kill everyone plus destroy itself.

Moronic idea. If you're gonna use a rail launch system just use a magnetic accelerator.

>>519227348
>Everything posited is within the realm of current tech.
No, everything is sci-fi bullshit.
VPSL needs magnets 20-30 Tesla to function at a cost effective endeavor, it would need magnets in the range of 80-100 Tesla to launch shit at your quoted price points. The current best is 7 Tesla. Second to push the power required through those magnets it will take room temp superconductors and a massive cryo cooling system. None of its possible.
Space elevators are impossible also, there is no material that can hold its own weight for the lengths needed. Second the height to balance it would put it through every major debris field in orbit.

>>519227972
Meaning thorium or uranium as fusion is a meme and will remain a meme due to materials science limitations in the reactor vessels or we mine huge amounts of beryllium which we current only mine 1 vessels worth per year and they have to be regularly replaced. It would be enough to cover small regions to start working on the planet. Any realistic endeavor will take hundreds of years. It is a start to at least make areas of the surface obtainable for work and infrastructure. Unless you want to be a tunnel snake drinking nigger piss as my brother pajeets be upon him mentioned.

>>519224788
Was he ok anon?

>>519228244
I will put my faith in boomerspace over your doctorate in demoralization my man

>>519228143
That's not how that works. The "screw" is just to improve motor efficiency at higher velocities, enabling a higher peak velocity.
And it IS electromagnetic.
>>519228424
Oh, so just throw a bunch of fission torches of unspecified output into a spot that has fuck all to do with planetary electromagnetic fields and...
Do you know what "standard" means?

>>519212768 (OP)
Even if america wanted one, your kike leaders would still get china to build it thoughbeit

this whole thing is stupid because using solved engineering and material science that we know is 100% viable you could build an o'neill cylinder with the cost per square foot of a new york high rise assuming you captured an iron rich meteorite Thew only speculative part is building at that scale in space and if the designs for releasing waste heat from refining would actually work.
No magic material science and the cost per Kg would be reasonable even at musk prices if you could get new york high rise price per square foot returns .

>>519228634
>Pointing out that material science is nowhere near what is required is demoralization.
Yes, everyone iit knows you are a troon. Do the world a favor and KYS

>>519228740
To me it means fission in the conversation. You can build a magnetic dipole at L1 and supply it with continuous power to produce a magnetic shield . The other method is building a global spanning superconducting loop and that would take way more time, infrastructure and power.

>>519214344
People forget what humanity is capable without bureaucrats and Jewish stop limits. We can literally carve out entire mountains on earth it’s just a matter of time

>>519212768 (OP)
Space is fake and gay. 9nly thing i want my tax money going towards in regards to space are rods of God that will ensure the planet's destruction. Everything else are scams and griffs.

>>519229051
You keep projecting your fantasies on me like that and it's gay as hell. You keep your bussy cravings to yourself you degenerate sock puppet.

>>519228244
>actually using Teslas
>thinks the limit is 7
>doesn't into electromagnets
>>519229091
>more words
>even less understanding
It's nice that you know all these buzzwords, but they aren't actually buzzwords. They're real things that can be done, but physical principles apply.
Please calculate the altitude of Mars' L1 point. See if you can't kludge your brain into grasping the stupid.

>>519229091
>You can build a magnetic dipole at L1 and supply it with continuous power to produce a magnetic shield . The other method is building a global spanning superconducting loop and that would take way more time, infrastructure and power.
The dipole would need to be the size of a superconductor loop for earth. Both are unfeasible. Just like every other pipedream you shit out.

>>519229332
You are not understanding that it is not a tethered system and ideal for shielding small areas without that much infrastructure for what it can do. The only thing lacking is logistics and will. The other kraut was right in the people here being divorced of the Faustian spirit.

>>519221348
Crazy brit spending his day researching some american mutant nigger nugget's mother.

>>519229489
The worst part is it's a temporary solution to a permanent problem.
The goal is to induce a planetary electromagnetic field. Instead, let's build a permanent station that will forever be bombarded by the solar wind so that we can't use the charged particles to kickstart the planetary field.
>>519229555
>it is not a tethered
Yes. I got that.
>small areas
Oh, you mean like a local generator? On the fucking surface? I thought we were talking about terraforming.
Planetary. Electromagnetic. Field.
Not L1. Planetary.
>they actually think the solar wind wouldn't just wrap around and hit mars anyways
Magnets. How do they interact with high velocity charged particles?

>>519212768 (OP)
just make a fucking railgun ffs

>>519228457
Probably. Poopjeets do that kind of thing all the time. There was a thread overnight with almost nothing but vids like that. It's their national pastime

>>519229946
Lets play with some hallucinations since that seems to be in vogue now. If a system cost 2 quadrillion dollars to install does it matter when a single rock it helps you get is worth 10,000 quadrillion? The derivatives time bomb is 3 quadrillion right now. Does it matter how much fake money you're making when it's all fake if you're going to use it to access real things? The only missing component is will you could put people in a tin can up there and they would still go for it to do it just so they could make some mutants in space or back home.

>>519229332
>doesn't into electromagnets
>>519229979
>just make a fucking railgun ffs
The US Navy has a rail gun currently capable of delivering 60-100 pound payloads into high orbit. It uses hybrid halbach array of permanent magnets switched with electro magnets.
The strength of the individual permanent magnets is the limiting factor for size, the resistance of the switching gear is the limiting factor for muzzle velocity.

>>519230320
Enron was supposed be a sure return on investments, and they had far more data to back up their sales pitch.

>>519223273
the white/western world could just build heaven on earth after TKD and putting the browns back in their ancestral homelands.

>>519223037
this fucker is exhausting. im thinking its an llm with a systemprompt to shill for big kike projects that the kikes can grift off of or something

>>519230518
They should have hardened infrastructure instead of selling power over state lines in a scheme.

>>519228457
he ended up being a pile of shit either way

>>519212912
musk is aiming for sub 100$ per Kg with its biggest model

>>519221119
Make an innovative product and style on retards then. Otherwise it's chirping noises

>>519219902
I assume they mean the screw itself is variable pitch. Machine screw thread spacing at the bottom; almost linear, paddle wheel like threads at the top. Only way to get constant acceleration all the way up, while using the same screw.

>>519230613
No it's just a "trust the science" troon. The few that are employed are just as rabid about AI, that is where the resemblance comes from. The tell is a llm would eventually add to its script when grill like OP has been iit.

>>519213385
Sweet Jesus, put that poor thing out of its misery

>>519215779
>solar
>on a planet that is just a giant iron oxide dustball


in germany we use dildos instead of seats in our cars because we are super duper smart

>>519230753
To mars will still be 20-40K. Takes 10-20 launches to fuel them.

>>519212768 (OP)
but think of how many niggers that money could feed!

>>519230753
I know but even at 1200 a kg I have seen papers saying that solar construction is economically viable

>>519231004
I don't trust it demoralization fag. I want it to be built to prove it. You want to breed more favela trash while China becomes a off planet power.

>>519230953
So how many km of vacuumed launch tube with magnets and support equipment need to be put on a hinge? And how much force is it going to endure for a launch?

>>519231004
if he isnt a bot, an llm or whatever, its fucking unreal persistent.

>>519231432
>We have to pass this bill to know what is in it
Ok looney troon.

>>519231513
It's easy when you're demoralization kikes.

>>519212768 (OP)
the schematic looks like a round going down a rifled barrel. this is still essentially a railgun though.

<<519231582
no, its just that you are a fucking moron that has no clue about anything you talk about, you are a 'i fucking love science' nigger neil degrasse tyson bill nye hyle hill mimeograph.

>>519231543
You're just sad there will be no mariachi in space ever.

>>519231582
So if you were not a kike, you would be struggling to maintain that level of idiocy?

>>519231719
That nigger wouldn't touch this he's too busy being your model for sassy fag obsessed brownies.

>>519213820

Mars does not have a carbon cycle and it also lacks water. You would need to tow several large asteroids to mars to carbonify and waterify it.

>>519214415

Isnt this the plot of "march of the morons" written in the 1950s ?

>>519231739
I knew this would upset the Muskovites and I was not proven wrong.

>>519212768 (OP)
>roughly 34 billion
>it clearly says 33 billion
why did OP change it to 34?

>>519228058
glad someone else noticed

>>519231903
He is an idiot and has never looked at the figures for what is locked in the poles and the regolith. Mars isn't terraformable without a huge infusion of cometsa that risk heating up the planet. The material to have the pressure and temperature of a water cycle isn't there

>>519232153
It would have died in 10 minutes, you get a gold star.

>>519217569
>Out of the 5000 or so exoplanet systems we have scanned nothing is configured like the solar system.

That is because it is impossible for us to see earth sized planets around sol-like stars. We can only see smaller planets around tiny weeny red stars with 0.1 solar masses and only under particular orbital configurations and even then they are super earths with 3x earth mass.

If we had much better technology, we might find that there are tons of earth like planets across the galaxy. Or its just megaplanets everywhere, with some of them having earth like moons.

>Inertia dampeners

Wood tenderize a hoominz insides

>>519218597
>I like Bill Gates, and he isn't Jewish.

Look at his face, he is a jew hybrid. Just like a quarter negro is still a negro, a quarter jew is still a jew.

>>519232798
It's not the small ones that make is special. Without Saturn and Jupiter we wouldn't exist through the virtue of them shielding us from more regular impacts. We would experience extinctions too rapidly to develop into what we are.

>>519213228
Eh, I could see limited human presence on a planet like Mars for mining, but permanent human settlement is pure science-fiction delusion, human physiology is adapted for life on this planet and not any other.

>>519229646
It took me ten seconds but of course a niggerbrain mutt wouldn't know how to use google

>>519212768 (OP)
All load of crap when some mother fuckers are already flying around in anti gravity craft.

>Hur, dur, let's do a reverse meteor as form of transportation.
Retarded. Anything moving at orbital speed inside the atmosphere turns to slag within seconds.

>>519213930
Ufo are doing something with with very high powered electro magnetism and plasma to seemingly manipulate gravity.

>>519233428
If the breakaway civilization is real they aren't sharing and the global powers can't figure out how to address the elephant in the room without killing us all so known tech only solutions.

>>519214415
The plot of a fun twilight zone or black mirror episode.

>>519230358
>capable of delivering 60-100 pound payloads into high orbit.
No rail gun no matter how powerful can deliver payloads "to orbit". There needs to be an additional energy input to circularize the orbit with the perigee above the atmosphere. Otherwise, the projectile will return to Earth halfway round the "orbit".

>>519216569
You are obviously not familiar with modern science and quantum physics.
The speed of light can be exceeded. In fact instantaneous travel is scientifically possible over any distance.

>>519231432
>I want it to be built to prove it.
Unless you're funding it yourself, you'll need to attract investors, and those typically need some explanation of what you want to do to evaluate whether it's likely to work as you propose.