Thread 519325732

National socialists?
Communists?
Capitalists?

>>519325732 (OP)
They're Chinese. You can try to apply other labels to them, but they're Chinese. Why try to fit them into a label when there's already a word for them?

>>519325732 (OP)
They're bugs and thats the queen ant

State capitalist

>>519325732 (OP)
all the above

>>519325732 (OP)
National socialists

>>519325732 (OP)
Socialists with Chinese charicteristics.

>>519325732 (OP)
Chinese

>>519325732 (OP)
China is natsoc. China was one of the poorest country in the world and then deng xiaoping dropped communism and established socialism with chinese characteristic aka national socialism. and one of the main fascist theorists (who are alive today), Ken Griffith, agrees with me that China is no longer Communist, and has been becoming increasingly fascist for a long time. In particular they're adhering to Italian Fascism. China has ALL of these values: The economic mixed market (corporativism), the conservative social values, the nationalism, an authoritarian government." they are one of the hardest country in the world for a foreigner to get citizenship unless you have Han blood.

They are fundementally disregarding core tenants of Marxist/egalitarian theory by being nationalist. It's similar to how they've abandoned the command economy over the years and opened up to capital -- they have Disneyland, Universal Studios, Starbucks and Gucci stores for fucks sakes, meanwhile 40% of BMW's sales are from china. Remember Leftism is just full of flaws and they eventually learned to stop making themselves suffer for it; although the state is still captured by a CCP politburo and is thus enslaved to keeping up appearances like the Marx commemoration. However what people don't know is that a week later after that commemoration, Xi celebrated Sun Yet Sen, a third way nationalist that's also revered by the KMT.

>>519325732 (OP)
Marxist-Leninist foundations, State Capitalist economy. Socialism with Chinese characteristics.

Mostly they want gold taps.

I don't suck off the CCCP but I like Chinese history from before them.

Most of the violent low IQ jobless psychos in my area are other white blokes.

The worst I can a about the Chinese is that I don't care for how the keep a neighbourhood, most Asian countries people like living in very high density housing and they basically do their living on the street side.

When I worked in Immigration the biggest scammers by volume were China and India but a surprising number of Brits, Kiwis and Yanks. All countries rate passports based on how likely you are to cut and run while visiting or be a terrorist etc

>>519326148
>Natsoc
>assisted by jewish banking families in asia

Consistent tbqh

>>519325732 (OP)
Chinese Communist Party

Lije any modern government
The local moneyfreaks mafia
And they do business with other moneyfreak mafias

>>519325793
He gets it. If you apply Communism to China, it will always be Chinese Communism, not a generic kind that's the same all over the world. Look at hiw socialist the capitalist democracies in Western Europe are, despite being engineered by the angloid victors of the second WW.
Chinese Communism is much closer to NatSoc, than to American hippie Communism. The interesting thing about China and Korea is, that they're only "left-wing" by name, in reality they're traditionalist, racially himogenous, xenophobic and highly militaristic.

classical chinese system without an emperor

>>519326148
China is still communist for the simple fact that billionaires are taxed hard and kept under tight leash, while the poorest people get free gibs and development from the central government.
Ok you can call this national socialism, but it isn't fascism at all, since it doesn't actively hate minorities and subgroups of people, and actually has the end goal of achieving post scarcity society via technological progress and automation.

>>519326218
Of course a German would agree with me. You guys are the ultimate definition sticklers. I wish I could have a fischbrotchen right now.

As for the Chinese problem, I actually really like them. If any global power stands a chance of wiping israel off the map, it's them. They are uniquely predisposed to resist jewish subversion. The moment China's eyes turn to the middle east, things will get very interesting. Nothing ever happens though.

>>519325732 (OP)
Chinese with Chinese charicteristics.

>>519325732 (OP)
Based
That's what they are
They are just BASED

>>519326371
>but it isn't fascism at all, since it doesn't actively hate minorities and subgroups of people
Only retards draw this conclusion regarding fascism, you need to read more.
>and actually has the end goal of achieving post scarcity society via technological progress
This is the explicit stated goal of national socialism (aka fascism). I would bet money you've never read Mein Kampf

>>519325732 (OP)
Hive-mind dog-eat-dog

>>519326148
>tenants
Tenets, anon. Core tenets. Go and sin no more.

>>519325732 (OP)
>Capitalists
That one, and they're so good at it that they've taken over while barely lifting a finger.
>Loan small amount of unused land to the British for 99 years
>Get Hong Kong in return

>>519325732 (OP)
Of all of those they are much closer to national socialists. But their party structure is much more of a Mafia than Nazi Germany imo. While the Nazis were obsessed with elevating their ethnic identity and culture, the CCP puts the party above the folk when they conflict.

>>519326971
>more of a Mafia than Nazi Germany imo

How is this even possble lol

Pandas

>>519325732 (OP)
You have to think of the entire country of China as one organism that uses the free market to multiply in size exponentially. All roads lead to the government, no citizen is free even if they leave. They cheat the system and then bend it to their will. It's nothing more than North Korea with a fresh coat of lead based paint.

>>519325732 (OP)
People who have been there say, "Oh well call China autocratic or even fascists or some messed up form of capitalism but they are not really communist since they have all these millionaires and billionaires." Then they go on t say they still CALL themselves commies so they don't have to take Mao's picture down. MAGA people are also text book Maoists and not really right wing in any realistic def.

>>519325732 (OP)
Totalitarian capitalists

Final boss.

>>519326371
if china were communist they wouldn't even have private billionaires, retard. did you forget the part where free enterprise and private ownership isn't allowed in communism?

Oh, you think fascist means racist. we got a live one lol. no, it is in fact a system of government, not an ideology, and yes, china ticks all boxes for fascist.

>>519325732 (OP)
>Wtf even are they?
They are the bugmen

>>519325732 (OP)
Based donkey show enjoyers.

>>519325732 (OP)
They are based. That's what they are.

>>519326371
>it isn't fascism at all, since it doesn't actively hate minorities and subgroups of people
Your shouldn't try to argue if all your views come from cartoons

>>519327074
Google "the triads"

>>519325732 (OP)

They are a Jewish free government and Xi is so based that he can dance with both Putin and Trump without breaking a sweat and always taking some advantage on it while pulling out the middle finger to the EU and the UK.

>>519325732 (OP)
They are what MAGA wants to be

unified ethnostate
trad
military tech fusion
expansionist

everything a jew fears

>>519326971
>the CCP puts the party above the folk when they conflict

And the nazi's didn't?
Do you prioritize your foot above your brain?

All they are is the central nervous system of the body that is china.

>>519326148
> Ken Griffith, agrees with me that China is no longer Communist, and has been becoming increasingly fascist for a long time. In particular they're adhering to Italian Fascism. China has ALL of these values: The economic mixed market (corporativism), the conservative social values, the nationalism, an authoritarian government." they are one of the hardest country in the world for a foreigner to get citizenship unless you have Han blood.

yes exactly and it's based

>>519329242

Based comment, China is the epitome of a Jewish free advanced society, they still have rough corners to polish off but they are still everything that the Jews fear to arise on the West, Latam or any other corner where they had buried their nasty Kosher fingers.

>>519325732 (OP)
They're not part of the tap water alliance and they have the anti-soul gas in all their cities because of shit rendering

>>519326371
>It doesn't actively hate minorities
No, they forcibly assimilate them and erase their distinctiveness through interbreeding and cultural suppression. They're real life borg. We call them bug people for a reason.

>>519325732 (OP)
Every society on earth is a plutocracy except a few isolated hunter gatherer tribes who haven't learned about money.

>>519325732 (OP)
>>519328208
This. I wanna kung fu fight each one of those guys until i get to Xi. Equilibrium style.

>>519326371
>billionaires are taxed hard and kept under tight leash
>while the poorest people get free gibs and development from the central government.
Only a latchkey mutt would see this as wrong

>>519325732 (OP)
>National socialists? (maybe?)
>Communists? (no)
>Capitalists? (yes)

They are UNIPARTY / Central Planning.
They maybe Democrats ('cos social planning).
They are NOT REPUBLICANS (not "small government').

They are 'a single party' that has 30-60 year plans.

- America/WesternWorld has 'votes'
- and half of you want 'small government'
- every 4-8 years half of you tear down everything we built.

>>519326025
this

>>519325732 (OP)
It's the same government+business fusion other East Asian countries had, they just don't pretend the two are separate because they're not burdened by democracy. Best word is collectivist mercantilism.

>>519326218
>>519325793
>>519325732 (OP)
They are legalists

they are winning
that's all that matters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_theory_(Deng_Xiaoping)

>>519325732 (OP)
is their placement in this shot supposed to convey something here ?

Aledgely a ccp general said they are economically US 90s capitalists and socially for the population socialist.

Aledgely he said that while US turns commie all together China will rise from it and only pretend to be communist in order to win.

And in fact I think now it's true! Their medicine and education is provided for the population along with basics... and the economy of the government and the people is capitalist but not oligarch extreme.

They basically looked at prosperity in US and took what worked and raised quickly using those systems.

anyone noticed the literal loudest critiques of ccp on X are literal jews (fintwit, silicon valley, 'based chads') - literally all of them

>>519325732 (OP)
>>519330996
>National socialists? (maybe?)

National Socialists, not NAZI.
- I don't think they're ethno-natioalist.
- I think they're Socialist, but specifically "only-for-the-nation."

NAZIs are only driven by ethnocide. It's their coffee-in-the-morning.

>>519326050
Quite literally, like all others! I always say every government and nation has all of the above... when one is too kuch, especially commie shit stuff in actual implementation vs just label it kills, it can destroy even a superpower.

>>519325732 (OP)
Did the hammer and sickle, banners of Mao in Stalinist style, and total state control of all resources not evoke any patterns of recognition in your mind?

>>519326025
So socialism.

>>519330201
t. christcuck

>>519325732 (OP)
CCP is litreally the Nazi party, but with actually high IQ competent people instead of chimping out chuds.

>>519325732 (OP)
They are who they say they are.
They're Han ethnosocialists.
They accomplished what Hitler wanted to do for the German people.

>>519325732 (OP)
Celestial empire

Being a “-ist” is a Western mind sickness. China was an “-ist” thanks to their Western educated intellectuals, but they wisely cast that off and now simply run a practical one-party state that still nominally pretends to be “-ist”.

>>519325732 (OP)
Check the Politcal Compass dude.

They'll build dams, schools, hospitals, bridges,factories and jobs.
But protest them - and you'll disappear you and your family.

>>519326204
How's your bris at Pine Gap going, cunt?

>>519325732 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xS_toSzxeo

>>519331906
That’s because ists require abstract thinking and moral codes

>>519325732 (OP)
mandate of heaven

I wish the Chinese would throw off the Communist label and just go full NatSoc. There's no reason they should be aping communist Russia anymore.

>>519331369
Pretty solid description. Meanwhile Jews willingly collapse the country due to their need to humiliate their slaves.

>>519325793
it's an awful thing to say, but they are indeed Chinese

They're a socialist country, every country on earth agreed, even decades after Deng's reforms. Just because they're the new world power doesn't mean they're capitalist.
Mull over the concept of "Unleashing the Means of Production"
>>519326218
>only "left-wing" by name, in reality they're traditionalist, racially himogenous, xenophobic and highly militaristic
None of those are inherently un-communist
>>519326025
>capitalism is when the Communist Party of X owns all the land and resources, and strictly guides the market

>>519334357
Brief recap of recent chink history:
>be 4th world country in the process of becoming a superpower (like Russia)
>disagree with Russia
>later Russia begins to decline
>If they fall, while you're still severely underdeveloped, America will mount you anally.
>like Russia (NEP), begin to tap vast reserves of foreign capital to boost country to a defensible stage of development.
>defensible stage of development reached, enter Xi and begin to wield capital more efficiently, developing rural regions.
>Now you're the second socialist country to progress from africa tier to 2nd most powerful state in human history (behind the USA)
>but this time, the guy in 1st is rather undeniably losing momentum, unlike yourself.

>>519325732 (OP)
>no free education
>no free housing
>partially free healthcare
well i wouldn't call it socialism

>>519325732 (OP)
ayys

>>519325732 (OP)
From body language, Xi appears to be a pure psychopath.

>>519333901
Lmfao true true

>>519326218
They are the progenitor of East Asia culture.

Our buildings and temples are similar to theirs.
Even our Shinto Torii gates are similar to the Paifang gates which you can see at entrances of buildings or Chinatowns.

>>519325732 (OP)
the order of the golden dragon, (6000 years of continuous history)

>>519325732 (OP)
State capitalists with some nationalism thrown in.

>>519325732 (OP)
Invented Tao

>>519326148
>they're adhering to Italian Fascism
lol
noone gives a fuck about italian fascism

>>519341382
>help your poor people
>punish the criminal rich (rich people who steal from the public get death penalties)
>enforce your will globally to make alliances
>don't import tons of retards for social reasons
Political labeling doesn't matter when the results are good.

>>519325732 (OP)
Chinese Communists. They have their own take on Marxist ideology.

>>519341453
It makes the trains run on time.

>>519341599
>what if we invested wealth to everyone
>but also centralized some aspects to improve efficiency?
They are succeeding because they didn't give all their state dollars to illiterate africans and jeets.

>>519325732 (OP)
Theyre the holy melting pot of using the best parts of communism, capitalism, socialism, and fascism

>>519325732 (OP)
Tyrants. Oligarchs. Autocrats. These fit. I stay away from terms like communist, fascist, Nazi, etc because they are so overused and subject to speculative interpretation that they are now meaningless. But we all know what a tyrant is, or an autocrat.

>>519325732 (OP)
Dictatorship

>>519325732 (OP)
Late stage capitalists

>>519325732 (OP)
For now, state capitalist. But I believe they will return to true communism one day. Many chinks will die that day because riots will probably ensue.

>>519341801
>>519341828
>authoritarianism is when countries/societies operate naturally and are successful

They are everything that is not me. But when they succeed, they are everything I am.

>>519326371
shalom rabbi, do you seriously think anyone believes this in the age of internet when information so easily flows out of china?

>>519341852
Unironically one of the more accurate posts here

>>519325732 (OP)
A far eastern variety of humanoid insect

>>519325732 (OP)
They're state capitalist (borderline fascist). Anyone who thinks they're communist because the use le heckin hammer & sickle doesn't get Chinese history. Ideologies come into and go out of power, and the nation absorbs iconography from them all.

I read a lot of chinese webnovels.
If their fantasy is any indication of how they feel their society works; their elites are somewhat corrupt but they have to at least pretend to be good on the surface. Some of their elites are even ideologues actually trying to be good.
Unlike the west, where the elites are blatantly evil and stealing from the people. Billionaires doing fraud get executed over there. An Epstein like scandal would guaranteed see at least SOME heads roll.

>>519325732 (OP)
conquerors of the west.

>>519325732 (OP)
>Wtf even are they?
Whatever works

>>519326371
>billionaires are taxed hard and kept under tight leash, while the poorest people get free gibs and development from the central government.
The horrors

>>519326371
Fascism and national socialism aren't racist in a way the blue haired freaks try to convince everyone.

Those systems only make it extremely hard on non-natives, for the sole reason of forced assimilation and tightly controlled immigration and genetic clarity, through minimizing the out-group intake.That's literally it. It's nothing but a conservation of national culture on social and genetic levels. It doesn't mean that no niggers or pajeets can ever immigrate and integrate. What it does mean that the society of multiple millions can manage those exceptional 5 140 IQ niggers that wholly adopted your national ethos and who's genes will dissolve in the gene pool in two generations easily.

Now tell me, what ethnic is extremely resistant to assimilation and prefers to keep its inner hierarchy and nepotistic substructures for indefinite length of time? Which ethnic adopted a genetic lineage membership?

Once you understand, you will see how the phrase "accuse others of what you yourself are guilty of" works, really.

> catcha ARY4P

>>519341382
They literally have a God of Money/Fortune to worship.

May you be blessed with dancing fortune lolis
https://youtu.be/48qz4iq9sJo

>>519341382
>>519341545
They literally have a God of Money/Fortune for worship. What other culture has such a practise in this age?

May the anons in this thread be blessed with dancing fortune lolis
https://youtu.be/48qz4iq9sJo

>>519344946
you're not japanese.

japanese have gods of wealths too, like daikokuten and ebisu ... and they worship them for fortune and wealth too. lucky cats (maneki-neko) are literally japanese, kek. that's such a dumb point to make.

>>519325732 (OP)
Whatever they are they're making the kikes that rule the west seethe and that's a good thing.

>>519325732 (OP)
State capitalists with a communist undertone.

>>519345434
they're all just socialists.

their main difference is the way they divide the pie, and what they think of the pie.

communism is just a form of socialism, only it's a collectivist socialism, where the state owns everything.

>>519345222
I have been to both China and Japan. I also have Japan ancestry.

I also know that, Daikokuten or Mahakala came from the Indian Shiva, and is known as "Great Black One".

Fyi Chinese have records of their pilgrimages to India when it was one of the richest civilizations in the world. So we know about your past and as a example/caution to learn from.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_of_the_Western_Regions

>>519326050
>>519331544
it depends on who is asking and why of course
because politicians are spineless puppets, whore actors