Thread 519328477

Why are zoomers in the US suddenly trying to get into law school? Do they know that being a lawyer sucks (source: I'm a lawyer)?

>>519328477 (OP)
Denny Crane!

>>519328477 (OP)
They're smart. It's one of the few industries that isn't going to be completely automated within the next 20 years.

>>519328477 (OP)
CS didnt work for them so they're going to try another saturated field

>>519328477 (OP)
Its not all zoomers. I know a millenial who recently started attending law school because they were sort of at a dead end of what they were doing and wanted to make more money.

>>519328627
This

>>519328477 (OP).

R Politics, not the R*ddit one.

>>519328627
There's that and a law degree is necessary to be a judge. Judges in America can make up whatever laws they wish on the spot. They have sole and binding discretion. The written law or constitution no longer matters. See Trump. He is stymied at every turn by low level judicial overreach. The law doesn't determine our legal framework or course anymore. Judges do and only they do so of course the left is flocking to it in droves.

>>519328627
>completely automated within the next 20 years.

AI is going to kill a lot of legal jobs though maybe not all. The lawyers that are left will need to know how to use AI to generate legal drivel.

>>519328477 (OP)
I can also confirm being a lawyer sucks and is retarded

>>519329114
Its always going to need human oversight. It will just be a human pressing the AI lawyer button and stamping off on it saying its been reviewed by a human.

>>519328986
Law degrees are not necessary to be a judge, only a lawyer. A judge can be voted in, appointed or simply hired.
I refer you to the sheboon nigger bitch that let that dreadlocked nigger out of jail 14 times so he could stab that girl on the train/bus whatever.

>>519329290
She wasn't a judge. She was a justice of the peace iirc and she owned the facility used for the rehabilitation of those who came before her which was quite corrupt.

>>519329206
How does it suck?

>>519329235
so you need 1 (one, count it) partner signing off on the mountain of bs knocked out by his billable juniors, who are really AI, gotcha. And knocking out some plausible-sounding new BS from mountains of old bs is exactly one of the areas AI does (or will) excel. Becoming a lawyer now sure sounds like a legit future-proof career choice - maybe take up welding or prostitution instead.

>>519328477 (OP)
I'd like to know too, because my sister is pushing her college dropout daughter to become a lawyer. Like, the girl has broken up with her roommate/boyfriend and is moving back home. Everyone is just like "A lawyer?" with a puzzled look in our family.

It’s mostly late millenials who are late to the game or need an advanced degree but don’t want to do a PhD or MBA.

t. Started law school last year

>>519328477 (OP)
It’s a classic recession signal. Idk why tards here brought up AI. How come no one here knows shit about fuck?

>>519328477 (OP)
probably mostly chinese nationalists and similar and not regular american youth

>>519328986
Lmao. If I were a judge, I'd be totally naked underneath my robes. I'd carry around my weed pipe, though. And you bet that I would make breathing illegal, just for the lulz.

>>519329688
That boyfriend was keeping her from climbing the corporate ladder. He was a SICK FUCK!!

>>519329656
>welding
The life of a tradecuck is so awful that people would rather be homeless over ruining their body by 40 and inevitably getting divorced because they're too busy slaving away for 40k a year.

>>519328477 (OP)
Why does being a lawyer suck?

Any job which can be done while working from home sounds like top of the food chain to me. I make a lot of money but I have to wear a hard hat and steel cap shoes. I'd happily settle for less than half the salary if I could work from home.

>>519330478
Lets say that you're a criminal lawyer. Now you need to spend all day reading the case facts about all of the slimebags you represent. You need to talk to them, see them in court and navigate whatever stupid crisis they're having while in jail. It's emotionally draining. You're stuck with a bunch of degenerates and their sordid lives, living in your head but not rent free.

>>519328477 (OP)
because they have an idealized view of what being a lawyer is. they think it's like a video game with cool suits and money. they don't realize that it's actually a lot of work for very little reward

>>519329656
>prostitution instead
that's actually a top 5 for young women today
onlyfans and adjacent e-thot porn industries is prostitution no matter how they frame it

>>519328477 (OP)
One of my best friends is a lawyer. If you aren’t trying to be big city high powered corporate attorney man or a criminal law crusader it seems pretty chill and comfy. He mostly does rural title, trusts, leases, building permitting, estate planning. That kind of shit. Makes decent money. Went to Texas Tech, didn’t bankrupt himself like a retard with a private school. Have some common sense and don’t spend money you don’t have or try to enter the most cutthroat market right out of school. Don’t go into divorce work. Those guys blow their brains out.

>>519330669
I certainly wouldn't want to defend guilty people or prosecute the innocent. And that seems inseparable from the profession.

But the kind of person who would be drawn to law - is he the kind of person to have his mind occupied by the degenerates he represents?

>>519331026
There’s a lot of civil/business law that has nothing to do with niggers and their crimes that you could go into.

>>519328477 (OP)
it's not zoomers, it's third world h1browns.

>>519328477 (OP)
zoomers just cram into the same few majors, doctors, lawyers, computer science.

>>519331026
If I were intelligent, I would use my intelligence to separate myself from the degeneracy. Criminal lawyers use their intelligence to defend the bottom of the barrel. >>519331111 Is right. There are other fields of law that don't have this problem. I'm just answering why it might be considered bad, in certain aspects. Reading the sordid details about what your client did certainly doesn't "go away" once you stop working for the day. I guess it can work out for certain people who don't mind being cosmopolitan shekel chasing hustlers, but that probably why the field is so JEWISH dominated. They'll defend the slimiest scumbags and probably disassociate themselves using kabbalah and jewish rationality.

>>519329912
>recession signal
Is there actually data to back this up? Sounds plausible enough to be honest

>>519331426
Goycattle raised by goycattle.

>>519329206
>>519328477 (OP)
Let me assure you, being an engineer is much much worse.
>t. Chem eng

>>519328627
Are you retarded? AI is perfect for the law industry. People will be able to represent themselves effectively with the help of AI and lawyers will go away for the most part.

>>519328477 (OP)
If you know the law you can bend the law. >>519329114
Unlikely, giving legal advice is one of those things that can fuck you financially and I don't think you can scale that risk without infinite money.

>>519328477 (OP)
Lawers will be replaced by Ai

Legal and recruiting roles could be among the next wave of professions to be replaced by AI.
Lazarte warned that law students should be on the lookout because those new to the profession often do tasks that could potentially be replaced by AI.

That certainly could reduce the payroll of law firms if one lawyer with AI tools could do work that previously required several lawyers.
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/as-bill-gates-says-ai-will-replace-white-collar-jobs-one-expert-says-two-professions-are-on-the-chopping-block

>>519331709
When lawyers start actually losing their jobs they'll just make a law that says you have to have a lawyer whether you want to or not.
This is an industry run by lawyers after all.

>>519331585
What's the deal with chemical engineers? It seems like the kind of profession a confused person would choose. Like black police man, or terrorist patsy. Do you even KNOW why you chose to do this to yourself? Or was it just a good idea at the time?

>>519328477 (OP)
They know they can cheat with ChatGPT.

>>519331111
>civil/business law that has nothing to do with niggers
Kek. I love this board

>>519328627
This is false. It's not like TV where every lawyer is talking in a courtroom trying to win a case. Most are behind the scenes reading books and previous cases and writing summaries, arguments, counter arguments, etc. But that can all be done by AI.
People will also sign up for some legal AI rather than contact a lawyer for $200 an hour consultation.

>>519331841

Uuhhhh. Oh GOD. Oh FUCK. I want to play with CHEMICALS, but I also want to build BUILDINGS. I don't know who I ammm... I don't know what I'm doooinng with my life...

>>519330478
Every lawyer I've ever met has been a raging alcoholic that regrets getting into the profession.

>>519328477 (OP)
I personally recommend NEET priesthood. A life of contemplation, if you will. A pure life.

>>519332039
Why? What went so wrong?

>>519331818
exactly. they have the power to ensure their own job security. they will begin to exploit examples of AI failing to say that legal services require a human, or else it will be anarchy goy, and we can't have that.

>>519332160
If the government can't stop me from [REDACTED] in front of a school, they certainly won't be able to stop me from asking an AI lawyer to help me formulate an argument against why [REDACTED] can consent.

>>519331793
AI Lawyer pricing:
Big case — $99.99 /year, Cancel anytime, All premium features
https://ailawyer.pro/blog/top-7-ai-based-legal-services

>>519331978
This. Most lawyers are sitting on their ass, charging $200/hr to change a few words of legalese in a document template, look up cases in LexisNexus, or correspond with some other lawyer. All stuff that could be done by AI. Trials are rapidly decreasing anyway.

>>519328520
Denny Crane!

>>519331841
>>519332013
Why did you respond to yourself?
Also I’m a leaf, and at the time the only hope for me to escape the abject poverty of eastern Canada was to become an engineer in the oil sands. Coincidentally the price of oil tanked right as I graduated and hiring fell to nothing, so I left the country. I did it strictly for economic reasons. I wanted money. It does pay alright. I make about $220k leafbux. But the job itself is enough to make you go mental.

>>519331473
I’m sure data does exist but it’s been widely known that graduates in the U.S. go to law school when they can’t find jobs because they don’t know what else to do and figure law school can’t hurt.

>>519328477 (OP)
post that LSAT question on Puerto Rican code switching. logical reasoning section

>>519331473
People go back to school to ride out recessions and have better employment opportunities after due to having higher education. If you're not going to be working anyways you might as well get more training, or so the thinking goes. I'm not sure it's relevant anymore, but we'll see.

Law is a funny career. It’s actually pretty good but is so oversaturated that to make a decent income at all you have to go big law, and the thing about going big law is that you work so much you really have to be in it for the money and the thing is if you are in for the money there are better careers you probably could’ve done like investment banking or management consulting. So it’s all around mediocre choice for basically all law students.

>there’s people that don’t realize that law as a profession was literally one of the first professions to be pushed into AI automation because 99% of it is just reading and summing legalese, which is exactly what LLMs are designed for
>there’s been “AI lawyers” for like 5 years, predating AI artists by a long shot
>even when I was in the USAF years ago, part of NCO training was them teaching us how to use ChatGPT to generate military-legal documents in case our troops fuck up
Jesus people are fucking retards

>>519328477 (OP)
Weak job market. People go to law school when they can't find a job in their field or are otherwise out of options.

>>519328477 (OP)
Idk. Personally I was thinking about getting a phd in nuclear physics or molecular biology and moving to Iran.

>>519333526
Denny Crane!
Im coo coo for coca puffs. Denny Crane.

>>519331709
>>519333344
>>519331978
Correct. This shit is already happening in some countries. Interns are already being deemed unnecessary because of ChatGPT.
In China, in particular, the government is financing and supporting AI development that is specifically trained on laws and court judgements.
It's undoubtable also that large amounts of judgements now are being written by ChatGPT, either by the judges themselves or by their law clerks.
The legal field is ripe for being replaced by AI.

>>519328477 (OP)
Chat gpt.