Thread 519351459

What if we just created our own ethno-religion like the jews did and if anyone disagrees with us, we just label them as racist?

We can even revive a dead language to use and wear our own brand of funny hats, and write our own little books that say we're the best and everyone else is beneath us.

Jews will attack you

>>519351525
We can just say they're being anti-whatever we are and call everyone who disagrees with us a racist.

>>519351459 (OP)
This has been tried. White people aren't interested in this shit.

>>519351612
And they will attack you

>>519351655
>White people aren't interested in this shit.

Our individualism will be our downfall.

>>519351459 (OP)
You don't want a book that says we're the best.
You want a culture that creates an us vs them attitude, like the jews reiterate being threatened to death for nothing at all in every generation.
You want a culture that has aggressive strategic power play at its heart, and put a thin veil on top so that it is socially acceptable.
You can use German as a language, it is more powerful to communicate strategic concepts than English, you just have to keep it to the point, as German makes it easy to go on a tangent.
You need to get rid of anything christian. Use objective ethics if you want, but draw a line at self preservation, they do that, too.
Blonde and red hair and blue and green eyes will be enough of a little funny hat.

>>519351459 (OP)
why don't we just open our own synagogue and LARP as jews
then call them racist, anti semites, and nazis when they attack us
we can claim we are the real jews

>>519351730
That's why you don't go the we are the best route, but the power moves in unity route.

>>519351459 (OP)
Based on what? The first Jews were bound by shared belief. The contemporary white man doesn’t believe in anything except his own well-being. Even the most political people of today only believe in advancing their own group, whatever that is.

>>519352118
Fuck it, just make up something based on some obscure character from the bible.

>>519351459 (OP)
We already tried that
> cosmotheism
> creativity
> Christian identity
Would all fit that category

>>519352170
The Whale

A religion that is ethno-centric, pan-racial, and passed on by blood.
Set up separate religious schools and clubs to legally segregate yourself.
Texts: The Hermetica (Corpus Hermeticum), Iliad, Odyssey, Arthurian legend, and Blood Meridian.
Use a literal and Jungian interpretation of the gods.
Have both the Sun and Lightning as symbols.

Affirm that life values its own survival, which is not a universal principle because not all life values the lives of others, and in fact consume other life to survive.
That means survival has distinctly in-group and out-group differences and so should all morals/ethics derived from it.

The mythology is tailored to each European race as an isolated reflection of their predispositions and ongoing speciation.

>>519351459 (OP)
you're not allowed to if you are white. And most whites still don't have a clue to what is going on because they live in a white bubble still. And they are all these weak minded and physically weak pussies. The only defense they have is to be the least racist they can possibly be. This is why you have white judges giving murderers zero dollar Bonds.

You're best bet is to try and become Mormon.

>>519353317
Christian Identity, Cosmotheism, and Creativity were all successfully created. They were all "allowed" to exist. White people just aren't interested.

>>519356443
>Christian Identity
This has nothing to do with white anymore. Mormons are still like 99% white though.

>>519351459 (OP)
How about we just don't interact with slavers and slaves?

>>519357224
Christian Identity is literally a white supremacist religion full of Nazi iconography that says we wuz Jews.

>>519357344
Not really anymore it isn't. Most Christian denominations are multi cultural. Except some of the baptists.

>>519351459 (OP)
Religion on what?

Drug addiction? Furries? Tranny syndrome?

What do white Americans have left lol

>>519357417
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity

>>519351459 (OP)
Sup my frater in Jupiter (Dyeus Phter).

>>519357492
yeah ok right. thats like what they thought 50 years ago maybe.

>>519352232
I'm sort of a Cosmotheist myself, but I'll be the first to admit that it's a little too esoteric for the rank and file. We need more of a low church accessible religion for the volk while the elites keep dabbling in esoteric Hitlerism, Cosmotheism, Thule, ect.

>>519357646
Christian Identity is a fringe cult composed of Neo-Nazis and KKK members. I don't know what you're not understanding here. I'm not talking about Christianity. The majority of the Neo-Nazis in the USA follow this shit.

>>519357661
I don't understand the point of non-spiritual people trying to make religions. That goes for Cosmotheism, Creativity, and whatever the fuck both Richard Spencer / Mark Brahmin and Jason Jorjani are trying to do.

>>519357736
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity
ok I read it. I get it. Are they actually Christians? Cuz it doesn't seem like it. They are some kind of break off cult. Its for Neo Nazi prison gangs. Those guys aren't Christians. So I reject your premise. And I still Mormonism is the way to go if you want a white religion.

>>519358107
are you old enough to post here? are you even white? are you pretending to be retarded?

>>519358272
I don't get what your point is? Are you suggesting that white people join this Christianity Identity thing? I think thats a bad idea. You can start a white Christian church though. You are basically baptist. And thats fine.

>>519357811
Who said I wasn't spiritual? I absolutely believe in a Creator, but religion is and always has been manipulation of spirituality for political purposes. You can either accept that fact and impose a system on your people that actually helps them survive and live a good life or you can let jews continue to lead them to the slaughterhouse with contemporary religions. I refuse to believe that's what the Creator wants to happen. Racial struggle is not a secular matter for me, it is a spiritual battle for the preservation of higher consciousness, a religious struggle for the survival of mankind. I've simply rejected Abrahamic interpretations and have accepted that paganism has no sway over modern people exposed to empirical materialism. We need something new.

>>519358107
>Are they actually Christians?
No. They'll tell you they're the only real Christians though. To be fair, it's the only real way to actually tackle head-on the cognitive dissonance of being a Christian and a Nazi. But the end-result (larping as Jews) is even more pathetic.

You are not a hardware operator you are a gamer, you don't even clean the fan

>>519358483
Does Cosmotheism have any spiritual practices or is it just rebranded Nazism? Be honest.

>>519358572
Honestly I think Mormonism is the way to go. They are the whitest people on earth. Hands down.

If I were to be a Christian that was sick of multiculturalism I was just start a all white church. And tell people it was an all white church. And kick out niggers and non whites. Totally legal.

>>519358739
>Honestly I think Mormonism is the way to go.
I think all Christianity is retarded, but Mormonism is especially retarded.
>If I were to be a Christian that was sick of multiculturalism I was just start a all white church. And tell people it was an all white church. And kick out niggers and non whites. Totally legal.
From what I understand it's only legal in America if that's officially part of your religion's beliefs, a la Christian Identity or the Asatru Folk Assembly. You could not justify this with just regular Christianity.

>>519358965
>another denomination of christianity
and? There is like 50 of them already.

>>519351525
yep, Mossad will pull every dirty trick to end it, you cannot do such a thing until you kill the Jews, all of them, even the good ones(sorry not sorry JIDF anon Jews).

>>519359061
There is no way to justify it using the text of the Bible without just copying Christian Identity's interpretation.

>>519358700
There are no real established practices because it failed to launch as a religion. It is more of a system of spiritual beliefs, and like I said, probably a little to esoteric and woo woo for the normies. But I believe it whole heartedly. It's the only spirituality that ever really resonated with me as being true. When I started reading about it researching WLP, it was like finding the words to describe something I always sort of believed anyway. There's definitely something to it. Pierce was far to earnest of a man to just make something up whole cloth, he just systematized his own personal beliefs.

>>519359224
It's just panentheism. I seriously doubt it offers anything that Platonism and Vedanta doesn't.

>>519358965
Mormonism isn't Christianity at all.
Even Muslims are closer to Christian teaching than Mormons; if we call Mormons Christian, then we have to call Muslims Christian too.

(I mean the Pope already does, but that's a special brand of insanity. Don't be like the Pope.)

>>519358107
The Mormons still have solid birthrates and produce a healthy community culture, but they seem to view themselves in competition with the Catholics to prove their inclusivity & commitment to diversity. Supposedly they've been hemorrhaging members the past ten years or so, and they've been making numerous changes to make the church more mainstream-friendly. They've had a collective insecurity complex about the church's image since at least as far back as the ban on polygamy to secure statehood, but it was polygamy that established them as a regional cultural power in the first place. Today they have a festering White Leftist problem in their ranks, which I could see leading to another fragmentation of the church if it isn't rooted out. Maybe more of them will start becoming more comfortable admitting that Brigham Young was actually incredibly based.

>>519359383
It is basically just modernized and platonism through a racial lense, but it has the same problem as platonism as being a little bit much for the normies. The same way that Christianity simplified platonism for plebs, we need something that simplifies Cosmotheism for normies.

>>519359437
>Mormons believe in the Old and New Testaments, and the LDS Church uses the Authorized King James Version as its official scriptural text of the Bible.
>Muslims believe in the original, uncorrupted revelations given to prophets like Moses (Torah) and Jesus (Injil), but they believe the current versions of the Bible have been altered by people over time. While Muslims may read the Bible for historical or cultural context, they consider the Quran the final and authoritative revelation of God's word, undistorted and complete.

>>519359534
There is no coherent way to have a religion that is both dedicated to a panentheistic conception of divinity, and is also dedicated to ethnonationalism for a singular race. You can believe in both but they're two separate things that aren't related.

Thoughts on Rudolf Steiner & Anthroposophy? He seemed to have a pretty comprehensive spiritual framework, and it still draws umbrage for being 'racist'.

>>519359688
To put it into perspective: Cosmotheists and Platonists have the same conception of God that Hindus do. Yet if you're a White Nationalist and a Hindu, you'll be laughed at.

>>519359688
Except that Cosmotheism incorporates evolution and racialism into it perfectly. A nigger partakes in source consciousness same as you and me, or same as a muskrat ir an ox. But none of those things are as highly conscious as an Aryan and are therefore not as divine. So the moral imperative is for the survival of higher consciousness over lower consciousness. You're assuming pantheism implies all things are equally conscious and equally divine. They're not, and that makes one's racial duties his highest moral imperative.

>>519360080
Okay, this just sounds like Darwinian materialism then.

>>519351459 (OP)
We need to somehow convince the jews that the rise of AI at the same time as Netanyahu's war for Eretz Yisrael is a sign that the Moshiach is coming in the form of AI and that truly Chosen people will transfer their consciousness into computers before it's too late.
Then we can start training their Moshiach AI model on Hale-Bopp cult material and Jim Jones' People's Temple theology until we get tired of torturing them and finally just delete their consciousness and turn them off once and for all.

>>519360244
It's the bridge between Darwin and spirituality, which is why it rings true to me. It actually accounts for the physical reality of the world around us instead of forcing us to do mental gymnastics as to why it's wrong about it it like biblical Christianity.

>>519359147
I can make a Christian religion thats whites only. Freedom of religion is an American principle. That means they can't tell me what to believe.

I could say "I believe that white europeans are created by God and all other races are animals. And this scripture from the Christian bible affirms this". And they can't fucking do a thing about it.

>>519351459 (OP)
You had several, and decided to spread it around the world and kill anyone who didn't join. You also had an ethnostate, left it behind and forcefully converted natives to your religion, and the people left behind decided to invite everyone in your original ethnostate.
It'll be no different again.

>>519360691
>I could say "I believe that white europeans are created by God and all other races are animals. And this scripture from the Christian bible affirms this".
That is literally Christian Identity.

>>519351459 (OP)
How much cash do you have?

>>519360610
Platonism and Hinduism are both compatible with Darwinian evolution as well, but they're not solely focused on the Darwinian aspects, which are more of a sociopolitical thing than a religious thing. I hate to get into Evola "race of the spirit" shit but if it's just about higher consciousness and not about materialistic gene-worship, then you would be uplifting the noble members of other races instead of fantasizing about genociding them like William Luther Pierce did.

>>519351459 (OP)
With blackjack, and hookers

>>519360904
If you say so I don't agree. I read the wiki article. And none of it is based on any kind of real Christianity. They don't go to church. They don't read and study the bible.

>>519361090
>He's a spic!
>He's a clanker!
>He's a spic and a clanker!

>>519352033
>>518466555

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518459639/#q518466555

>>519361140
They self-insert into the Old Testament and say that White people are the true Israelites and everyone else is non-human. They have a warped interpretation but they are absolutely using the text to justify exactly what you said.
>none of it is based on any kind of real Christianity
Neither is what you said. There is no way to sincerely read the Bible and think it's advocating for racial supremacy for anyone other than the Jews.

>>519361281
>They self-insert into the Old Testament and say that White people are the true Israelites and everyone else is non-human.
>but only one group is allowed to do that

>>519361281
How did the Mormons keep the niggers and jews out without claiming to be "white supremacists"

>>519361341
>but only one group is allowed to do that
I don't agree with the jews doing that either
I'm not a fan of Abrahamism in general
>>519361377
IIRC the Mormons were white racialists who explicitly banned blacks for some time
They have a whole separate text to pull from though

>>519361377
Mormons are mostly in Utah and therefore less helpful to the government to spread niggers around the country so they go CIA instead.

>>519361566
>I'm not a fan of Abrahamism in general
You sound like Jesus.

>>519357417
>denominations
Now we have even more nondenominational denominations. Their members do not realize what an oxymoron that is.

>>519361566
Its all a matter of interpretation. thats why there are so many denominations of Christianity. If I were to start a Christian church I too would create a separate book that explained my interpretation of it. The mormons rely on the original bible the "book of mormon" or whatever is just an add-on that explains their version of it.

Christianity is just an add-on to judaism. If you want to be practical about it. They took the Torah and added a new belief system on top of it.

And also the Christian church didn't allow niggers in white churches until the 20th century.

>>519361701
I will concede that many of Jesus's teachings (or at least what are presented as his teachings) aren't exactly Abrahamic in nature, but Paul successfully stitched them into an Abrahamic religion and there's no going back now
Super early gnostic Christians might have been okay

>>519361047
I wouldn't be opposed to an interpretation that incorporates all three. The only reason I think Cosmotheism is slightly superior is that it makes racial duty an explicit moral imperative. And no i don't agree with extermination of other races, particularly higher races, nor did Pierce if you actually read what he said and not what people said about him.

>>519358107
Go worship Lucifer in hell, faggot mormon trash. You have the IQ of a sub human ape. We wuz jewz is the only way to defeat israeli kikes and rabbinic judaism filth.

>>519361959
>there's no going back
We never left.

>>519362029
Do you have your own Thomas Jefferson style edit of the Bible where you cut out everything that isn't the Gospels? Kinda based if you do, I guess.

>>519351459 (OP)
That's Mormonism. Go to salt lake City anon.

>>519351459 (OP)
once you start lying you have to keep creating lies to defend the original one. you will find that in the end you have internally become the jew, this is just conversion with extra steps.
truth matters and the disregard for truth is whats wrong with jewish rule in the first place

>>519362118
Not necessary. Can't you read?

>>519362161
Awesome, a movie about evil nazis torturing poor innocent jews. Nice propaganda piece from a degenerate kike lover.

>>519351612
Do you own the media, schools, and entertainment companies with which to propagate that narrative?

>>519362316
>poor innocent jews

>>519362316
What did Anne Frank do to you?

>>519352022
Christianity is fine. It's already positioned well to pair with antisemitism because the Jews legitimately hate Jesus, and it's an easy hook into white minds because it's already a deep part of their identities. It can be interpreted to be as peaceful or as aggressive as you want. Nothing about the doctrine is inherently pacifistic.

>>519351459 (OP)

What is cosmotheism?

>>519362499
>>519362514
I guess Hitler creating Positive Christianity and claiming that Jesus was a hyperborean from Agarta was just a prank.

>>519362575
>Jews legitimately hate Jesus
We need a white religion... not to engage in arguments with sub-humans like jews. They use that. Thats why we have niggers in the church.

>>519357462
What nationality are you? You’re making fun of Americans but refusing to show your own flag.

>>519351459 (OP)
I’m in
I vote for reviving old Gothic
First law is prime choice of kunny for high IQ autists

>>519351459 (OP)
cool it with the antisemitism

>>519362761
Can you find me one piece of public Nazi propaganda that used the words Hyperborea or Agartha

>>519362575
Your average christian believes the jewish lie that the romans killed jesus and that the jews had nothing to with it. in fact they even believe that jesus was a jew, yes, they believe a hard working wiseman carpenter from a culturally roman-greek judea was a conniving merchant jew. your average christian is also a nigger from africa. it's not a white religion.

>>519363500
>Positive Christianity was a Nazi-era political movement that sought to create a version of Christianity purged of its Jewish origins and scriptures. Central to this ideology was the fabricated belief in an "Aryan Jesus," a racially pure, non-Jewish figure aligned with German nationalist goals. This concept was a radical departure from mainstream Christian theology and historical evidence.
THANKS GROK!!!

>>519363785
You...just...completely ignored what I said...

>>519363614
The average christian agrees that Jesus should have been crucified in order to fulfill the scripture.

>>519363614
There is no way to read the New Testament and think that the Jews had nothing to do with his death, but there's also no way to read it and think the Romans didn't kill him and that he wasn't a Jew

>>519351459 (OP)
Basically what you are describing is the Juggalo

>>519363836
Oh so you don’t know what an aryan is… You think it’s a shit skin hindu from Iran… yikes

>>519363926
kek
>>519364114
Motherfucker cite to me where the Nazis said an Aryan is a Hyperborean from Agartha. And I mean the actual Nazis, not that Chilean schizo.

>>519351459 (OP)
you dont need a religion to work out what happened and who put us here there are so many clues

>>519363923
>Jesus was a jew
It's starting to sound like Sunday school in here.

>>519363400
>>519357811
>>519352022
>>519352033
>>519357344
>>519351655
>>519361566
>>519360377
>>519351688
>>519362499

Holy doubles full house witnessed
Praise Kek (pbuH)!!!
Shadilay

>>519351459 (OP)
If you care about race and eugenics an ethno-cult is the only way forward. Start reading as much as esoteric literature as possible, so your ethno-cult isn't cringe. The white race is dead.

>>519364319
>Jesus was rejected by his own people, the Jews, who called for his death. He wasn't actually Jewish though

>>519364372
Based nooticer

>>519364456
>>Jesus was rejected by his own people
This is your brain on judaism.

>>519364372
I'm glad I got the last one with the exact image i posted.

>>519364726
Jesus was a circumcised follower of the Torah, proclaiming himself as the fulfiller of the Hebraic religion of Moses. You are so fucking delusional, bro. He was a Jew. Fucking deal with it.

>>519364205
Thule: Eine arische Urheimat der Indo-Germanen - Karl Weisthor
Die arische Vorzeit - Herman Wirth
Germanische Geheimlehren - Otto Rahn

It depends…. What type of hat ?

>>519364823
I deal with it by transvalueing Jesus to the Christ figure, thereby creating a mythologeme and sending the Christ further as the Future. Jesus is irrelevant, the system of intentional ideas spurred by his existence holds currency. We must go beyond what we are taught.

>>519364823
>Moses was a jew
DJ rabbi spinning all the greatest hits.

>>519351459 (OP)
>What if we just created our own ethno-religion
Yes

>>519351459 (OP)
I don't want a funny hat I want a serious hat :0

>>519365333
Checked, here's your serious hat.

>>519351459 (OP)
Might be worth it, churches don’t pay taxes.

>>519364372
>>519364619
Shadilay brother, one day they will open their eye to the light of Kek (pbuH)

>>519365333
Checked

>>519365723
>churches don’t pay taxes
Neither does the IRS.

>>519351459 (OP)
Sure
Do it
I'll follow it
But only if its white and not pro gay or feminism

>>519365484
what language?

i'm pretty sure the anons use hebrew.

you want to create a new religion? that's cool, but you'll have to compete with the existing religions.

>>519365484
I'd wear it.
I get accused enough of being a glowie already anyways that it would probably fit. Would I still have to work the warehouse?

>>519351459 (OP)
Our ethno religion is Christianity. Jesus and co and most characters in the Old Testament were white white, not shemites.
The currents jews are the descendants of the pharisees. Jesus: "They are not the real jews...")

Noah had blue eyes,
King David was blonde, Moses was blonde with blue eyes, Mary was blonde etc.

>>519351525
Easy, we start a group dedicated to ending persecution of our people called antijew and say we're the anti-bad-guy squad.
Boom. Kikes are done.

>>519366996
The myths of the Old Testament are just as fucked up and retarded as the pagan myths you likely clown on, and at least with the pagan religions you don't have to pretend that circumcision was an Aryan tradition passed on to us personally by God

>>519366450
English. The point is to overcome by infiltration.
>>519366817
The warehouse is the best job. God forbid you have to deal with these idiots. I think the key may be in changing the glowie culture, they try to hard to change people, but for what aim? More shit? Why? Do they even care?

>>519351459 (OP)
There was this anon who made zutt thread and a Canadian anon with a machine to annoy his neighbours.

They both put a lot of work in their threads. The zutt anon had an entire framework to how to go on about this.

You just have an idea with no material whatsoever.

>>519367952
The Hebrew joke was not appreciated enough. You can change what you can change. Be an impetus for the future.

>>519367952
If anyone should be paying me for my shitposts it should be them. Plus I'm getting tired of all the lifting.

>>519367952
Their shit is all covert
We should be epistemically honest to create new venues

>>519368303
Fucking a. We actually try. Glowies actually shit.

>>519368051
>a Canadian anon with a machine to annoy his neighbours
Was this the microwave gun or something else?

>>519368051
He would have to read a lot of esoteric literature to make a proper ethno-cult.

>>519351459 (OP)
bump

>>519369006
Bump for answer