Thread 519444761

Warehouse jobs are about to be completely eliminated.

>>519444761 (OP)
Whos gonna buy benzos temu shit when everybody is out of work?

we're about to have a giant recession, actual humans are about to become dirt cheap again

Well if it saves me 30 cents, I guess I have nothing to complain about. Get the longshoremen next.

>>519444761 (OP)
can this thing do something more complex than holding a box?

>>519444761 (OP)
>amazon
>cant even run aws
>the robots will take your job!
Lol can't wait for some pajeeta to bring down all Amazon warehouses for 24 hours

>>519444761 (OP)
this is what communists warned us about. rich get richer and we get more poor

>>519444906
The wealthy. The AI circular spending bubble is a glimpse into how the new economy will work: fiat currency will become a meaningless gesture exchanged between the established elites while a formal slave caste is set up for everyone else.

>>519444906
They have enough money for a 1000 life times and they are the ones orchestrating the future, they know the end is coming, the Titanic is sinking and they are making off with the silverware thats why they have bunkers in remote places.
>Theres a new world coming and 7.5b of us arent invited

>>519444906
Lol first world service society instead of modernity proof raw materials third world economy

I will go back to hammer shiny rocks while you struggle to find a receptionist job

>>519444906
once robots and AI can do all the labour they will just kill all the non-billionaire cattle, probably with some bio weapon while they wait it out in their bunkers

>>519445205

that's pretty much it, yea, the ivy league schools where they are all bunk mates for 4 years then they split up and take on the roles of Federal judges, congressmen, ceo, hospital director, think tank director, editor in chief of news agency, investment banking, and then they just funnel the money to each other using the money printer.

Who could have predicted it would end this way? Oh right, literally everyone predicted this.

>>519444761 (OP)
>import millions of brown people for labor
>replace them immediately

>>519445309

yes, 90% of everything is made in asia now white man but it's just the AI that took your job, not your failing society and dying culture - it's THE AI DERP DERP

>>519444966
>longshoremen next
Fuck the longshoreman, I can't wait until those retard faggots are replaced.

>>519445350
Not a problem at all. They can always tax you into poverty to pay for immigrant welfare. Have a look at Europe.

>>519445350
I can't wait for browns to become useless.

>>519445366
you really think those jobs in asia are safe?

they can't fucking wait to murder millions of us in the next kinetic war. afterward, the rabble will just be happy it's over and work alongside their "cobots" making a fraction of what they need or deserve.

>>519445205
these idiots don't understand technology, science, engineering, anything really.
we are in the middle of the death of an empire and all these dreams are the delusions of an elite that is out of touch and fails to understand the time in which we live or the limits to the technology they wish to deploy.
do we even have the electrical infrastructure or the mining capacity to build enough batteries are charge all this bullshit. are we building more capacity?
or are they just spouting nonsense and hype, to inflate stock prices, to facilitate their looting?

>>519444906
you on debt and government handouts

>>519445739
empty gestures to facilitate looting is the best case scenario. what a fucking world.

>>519445350
yes, that was the strategy. divide and conquer, lower the standard of living for everyone, create distrust and dependency, implement a technocratic society for the goyim and live like kings on earth. haven’t you kept up on your antisemitic literature? it’s all there laid out in the open and you’re too stupid to understand it

no matter how you cucks cope
this is based
higher productivity is based
lower population is based

>>519444761 (OP)
It isn't even close anon. When the AI is actually "intelligent" and we make a bot that can fix a bot, then you can worry. Right now this is in its infancy and almost every bot we have requires a lot of human help and intervention throughout the day. One thing they don't do is hide in the fucking bathrooms though so +1 to the clankers.

>>519446823
you need to make bots that manufacture parts, repair every part of a production chain and manage infrastructure to get things from A to B. None of these billionaire schizos know this stuff even exists, they depend on loyal goys far more than they understand

>>519446823
>though so +1 to the clankers.
In the 1962 film The Creation of the Humanoids, a great film if you like old sci-fi, the robots in that film are called clikers because of their clockwork mechanisms.
My point is clickers rolls off the tongue much better than clankers.

>>519444761 (OP)
30 cents though

>>519445253
Issue with the line of thinking is
>many of their bunker locations are known
>at least a couple of us know how to a concrete truck
The world may be fucked and they may be safe in their bunkers but just what is their play when threexits are buried in cement or exhaust and vents for air get filled or a fuck with access to plenty of high powered explosives finds something to blow

a whole 30 cents?
i can finally send more to israel

>>519444761 (OP)
They have a robot now that can literally make a pizza. It's amazing to watch.

>>519444761 (OP)
So if labor costs only make an items price decrease by 30 cents why do prices increase so much when the minimum wage is increased slightly?

>>519444761 (OP)
Good, proceed. Production next plx

>>519444906
What kind of slaves have no jobs?

>>519444761 (OP)
people will start burning these places down

>>519444761 (OP)
Jobs that pay the workers that buy the products that make the jobs that that pay the workers that buy the products Jobs that pay the workers that buy the products that make the jobs that that pay the workers that buy the products

This cycle is meant for humans.

>>519444761 (OP)
you cry that robots will take your jobs but still contribute to the techno industrial system

>>519447965
Because robots are expensive.

We have seemingly basic processes that robots fail at every day. Placing a label on a package seems fairly important if you are Amazon, yet the bots / automation struggle with this basic task. What happens (as it does dozens of times a day) when a line jams? No bot is climbing a ladder to fix this. It would take years to develop a bot that was even capable of building the carts we use. Current robotic palletizing is horribly inefficient. The fill rate and package count that they manage to get into a cart is consistently 30% less than what a decent human can do. That means that we now fit far fewer packages on a given truck, requiring that we spend $ to load up yet another truck and pay someone to haul it. All because robots can't even stack boxes into a cart better than your average (likely high as fuck) associate.

>>519444970
It can be remote activated to crush your skull.

>>519444761 (OP)
Based. We can get by with no more than 150 million people if we replace all the low-end wagecucks with robots.

>>519444761 (OP)
Bipedal robots are retarded in a flat as a mirror floor environment like amazon warehouses.

>>519444761 (OP)
I got a job on a cattle ranch. All cash, no taxes and I'm not getting paid scraps. Its been pretty cool.
Farmers and ranchers all help each other, so they all know each other in this area. Where I work hasn't been affected, but the huge crop-growing farms that require the crops to be picked by hand, like tobacco, need more workers. Now is the time to get into agriculture, they're desperate to hire.

>>519444761 (OP)
At least the GDP and stock prices goes up

That's a nice break for those poor souls. Nothing is worse than clocking in for a 10 hour shift of lifting and moving objects

>>519444761 (OP)
Not within several decades because bot and it's maintenance will be magnitudes more expensive than pajeet and managers/HR need organics to enjoy power trip blaming for their own failures.

>>519448492
i command a salary of 45 an hour with benefits including vision and dental and 5 weeks vacation
they able to meet that minimum?

>>519447644
>at least a couple of us know how to a concrete truck
>know how to a concrete truck
>how to a concrete truck
Maybe try proofreading your post before hitting submit, you fucking retard.

STAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEE

>>519444761 (OP)
>oh no ai is going to take my wagie drudgery job and i'll have to live off ubi while spending my days having fun with my 10/10 robot gf. What hell that would be! No better ban AI so I can spend 50+ hours a week for the rest of my life in a warehouse moving shit around.

>>519444761 (OP)
Can't wait for the robot uprising to be desu honest desu

>>519449246
>i'll have to live off ubi while spending my days having fun with my 10/10 robot gf.
>ubi
LMAO
bro, we're getting purged as soon as we are no longer needed. We're not getting ubi because the more of us who starve or die of drug overdoses, the lest they're going to have to have robo-cops cave our head in on their day of reckoning.
Once they start getting robo-security, its basically over.

>>519448695
Probably not. I'm getting paid 30 an hour but with no taxes I'm taking home more than others. Others may be able to help you with benefits, I've got that through someone else luckily.
Take the work the spics were doing, and get paid more than what they were. Others may offer legal employment.

>>519444906
Ubi which will get docked for every wrong think you publish

>>519448695
>command a salary
Insufferable corpo language

>>519449246
who let western game devs design the faces of the sexbots

>>519444906
They will raise the price until the few people still buying lead to a small net gain over their lower costs.

Of course, as they fire 600k Americans they will no doubt have to request H1Bs for the robot maintenance. Not like they could just retrain anybody, no we must get more lying Indian conmen with fake degrees!

>>519444906
The robots unironically

>>519444761 (OP)
>job losses could save...
No they'll raise the cost by that much instead to increase value for their shareholders.
I actually lost a job at the interview level because I didnt know they're trying to redefine shareholders as every customer so they asked if I interacted with share holders and I said no and later learned what the fuck they were talking about.

>>519444761 (OP)
Finally. Its not a real job if AI/robots replace it.

>>519444761 (OP)
>replace millions of jobs
>but in the same time you bring more people in because you want more debt and consumers
i think the "Elite" is dumber than we think
>>519445253
>get into a rich bunker with hundreds of people
>the Chief of Security take over and hang every rich fag from the celling
hahaha, what's stopping him ? only a micro bomb in his neck or a dead man switch, loyality doesn't exist in the Apocalypse

>>519444761 (OP)
I bet they will pack your shit better for shipment.

>519444761
Thank God. Hopefully these manual labor and trade shills will finally fuck off forever and kill themselves now that it’s impossible to keep their smokescreen up.
>muh tons of work
>muh opportunity
>please ignore our shitty dying economy and pretend that breaking your back like a spic is somehow the path to a good life
Hahahaha. Time for you retarded losers to go look for a real job like being a CEO or hedge fund manager.

>>519449246
>get your robot tranny* sexbot
>*penis sold separately
bezos, what a jew

>>519444761 (OP)
for every 5 warehouse workers they replace with a robot, they probably need a technician who makes as much as 10 of them would have to constantly troubleshoot the robots, kek

>>519444761 (OP)
>Warehouse jobs

Im a diesel/cng technician. My job's safe

>>519444761 (OP)
What will those people then do?

>>519447644
> anon decides to take revenge
> his phone & the rental car log his journey
> hundreds of "security" cams log his journey
> he can not provide a good reason why he must go to the luxury village on the beach
> so he walks the last 20 miles
> AI is already on high alert
> he gets near a villa
> several household robots approach with superhuman speed and inform him that they got temporary police authority
> I...I just wanted to have a look
> his profile evaluations are even worse now
> he is relocated to a pod even further away from any elites

>>519449504
naa
my skillset and time in is what i'm owed

>>519444761 (OP)
Whenever I try to code, my fat fongers inevitably cause something to get randomly deleted by pressing a wrong key while i’m facing the keyboard, and so I don’t see it happening

AI is unironically better than me because it doesn’t have fat fingers

>>519444761 (OP)
Haha no they aren’t
t. Warehouse worker

>>519448201
the less you contribute, the faster you get annihilated by disease and poverty

>>519449659
They hate you BECAUSE YOU ARE WHITE. What is hard to understand

>>519450219
become poets and artists

>>519450219

You know

>>519450219
OF like everyone else.

>>519445271
the Chileans yearn for the mines

I prefer to look on the bright side, the robots won't get my Amazon orders wrong as often. Slight downside is that I might not get any high-value stuff when I just ordered some underwear.

>>519444761 (OP)
good. paying niggers 20 dollars an hour to put a sticker on a box, or to pick up a box and put it in another box is retarded.

>>519444761 (OP)
But Faux news and NBC all tell me that no one wants to work anymore and everyone is lazy?

>>519444906
50% of all consumer spending is being spurred by the top 10% of earners.
They don't care about you being unable to purchase their dogshit, they'll increase the price for them and call it a premium product instead.

>>519444761 (OP)
30c is 30c too many!

>>519444761 (OP)
theres gonna be one spic left working there to unclog the robots if they get stuck

>>519444761 (OP)
those are shitty jobs anyway, literally slave jobs

>>519448201
>you cry
That's disengenuous AF.
1.Purchasing a (necessity) Product is not equal to providing your consent.

The Paradigm that we are being forced to live under is flawed.

2.The average American can exert more control over their life at a PTA meeting or Book Club than the false choice of "Voting".

3. Elected Officials only face extremely limited scrutiny, at the time and place and duration and depth of their choosing.

4. News Cycles have been weaponized so as to MemoryHole on demand, many many important stories that never get investigated to fruition.

>>519444761 (OP)
100 guys with axes and handsaws were replaced by ten guys with chainsaws. Then those ten were replaced by one guy in one of those forest machines.
Now - how many would like to cut trees with axes and handsaws, in waistdeep snow and -30C?

>>519450219
They’ll go back to africa since 90% of warehouse workers are niggers too stupid to do anything else.
>>519450775
this

>>519444761 (OP)
Maybe these bots won't crush my goods like their stupid wagecucks do.

>>519444761 (OP)
I work at a warehouse and it's a lot more work and bullshit than people realize. I've seen the videos of these robots handling the totes and merchandise, they're way too fucking slow and lack a sense of emergence. It'll ultimately slow down production and potentially cost billions in revenue. It's just not happening anytime soon.

>>519445332
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BDc1xeZJ9X8
all wars are (banker) wars

>>519444761 (OP)
I hope you all realize that this is endgame. Ruining 600k humans lives for .30c a pop. Its so fucking over

cope, your job is going extinct first.

Welp time to move to mexico

>>519451130
>100 guys with axes and handsaws were replaced by ten guys with chainsaws. Then those ten were replaced by one guy in one of those forest machines.
You are describing the INPUT / Raw Material gathering.

Those Workers, that were displaced, found other opportunities further down the Manufacturing chain.

Also, standards of living grew which also lessened the more grueling aspects of Labor as well.

>>519448698
nta but it's memespeak you newfag
just like (bunkers) which are memes soon to be catacombs
they hide in darkness but they can't escape Eternal Light

>>519449246
>ubi withrobowaifu
Nigger you're gonna get put in a brain dome and tortured for decades.

>>519447644
What did he mean by this absolute jibberish?

>>519450272
I wanna read that book.

I just google Jeff Bezos net worth == $227B.

I'm using picrel as the approximate of "structural" cells in Jeff Bezos body, and to make the numbers convenient I'm going to add some more for sperm, and even more for social credits, which means his cell count == 7.5T == 7,500B cells.

That means each cell in his body is worth $0.033 == 3.3 cents.

There's more posts to cum...

>>519452724
ok, so let's use picrel numbers, and presume Jeff is ultra-virile — that means 8x200mil sperms enter the contest, but only 1 wins.

Now the math gets a bit tricky here, because sperm obviously regenerates, so when do these sperms count in the dry weight? I reckon 1 month/cycle worth is what matters. So that's 2-shots @ 200mil each == 400 million sperms in the "dry weight".

So if Jeff has 7,500,000 million cells (that's 7.5T), and there are 400 million sperms, then that means each "cell owner" has a 1/18750 chance of owning a single sperm cell. So to own 1 sperm cell, you need to 18750*0.033=~$620 of Amazon stock.

So if I calc'd correct, that means it costs $620 to enter the lotto to own Jeff Bezo's offspring, and the odds to win are 1-in-400million.

>>519445102
Right? A complex machine is useless if a critical part breaks in half due to a poor design and maintenance

>>519444970
No. It being bipedal alone makes it prone to errors brought on by weight handling and balancing issues. Any sensible person in the robotics industry would know that wheeled robots are much easier to control than bipedal ones for the simple fact that movement in a wheeled robot is reduced to running a motor at preprogrammed intervals as opposed to actuating a group of motors with linkages attached to joints to move a limb into the correct position in a short amount of time. We really don't know how to build things that have practical applications anymore.

blue collar fags in shambles.

>>519453774
Now I'm realising that I took long-route to basically calc 227/0.4, lol

>>519444761 (OP)
If they can automate and replace workers, surely they'll be paying a tax to operate in a country where they are causing the job market to shrink, right?
Right?
No? So this kind of billionaire's new age slavery shit is just okay to do?
You realize they're going to make the robots capable of holding and operating a gun, if they can't already.

>>519444761 (OP)
That’s what they voted for no? Teamsters. Almost like every other union was right but they were wrong. Wonder if the ai bots pay union fees.

>>519445309
Why bother? The pandemic has proved that you can put the entire planet in house arrest with zero uprisings.
Birthrates are almost mono-causally negatively correlated to women's education, so now that basically all girls around the world are being educated, 95% of populations will simply naturally go extinct within a few generations while the super-wealthy will just use cloning and eugenics to breed a new calss of dynastic communities to inherit the earth. Then, when the next natural cataclysmic event occurs that proves too powerful for the technosphere to cope with, the remaining population will be too small to recover or have lost the ability to reproduce naturally, and humanity will go extinct.

Turns out XX-chromosome literacy was the great cosmic filter. lol.

>>519445309
>they will just kill all the non-billionaire cattle
They already preloaded people with the juice. Fertility is dropping like a stone. Populations will collapse within a generation.

>>519444761 (OP)
Good. People need to ditch this protestant work ethic slave morality and the only thing that will shake them out of it absolutely no jobs being available. Actually, there will be one final phase after that: people will be so addicted to labor that they'll demand the government create fake jobs for them (MMT), digging holes and filling them back in, etc. Most millennials and all of gen z will instantly see the absurdity of this and correctly demand to be given their share of free, automatic wealth for free. We're on the verge of rebuilding the garden of Eden and some people would literally rather wageslave. Self hating lunatics.

Of course the billionaires will demand that they have "exclusive rights" to owning all the automation through the legal fiction of intellectual property rights.

>>519444761 (OP)
>save 30 cents
Lmao, those automation savings are truly helpful.
>sorry we turned on the money printer again and raised prices by 2.00. Sorry goys nothing can be done about it:^)

>>519444761 (OP)
This is great news, I always hear these are the worst jobs and Amazon is one of the worst employers.

>>519445739
>do we even have the electrical infrastructure or the mining capacity to build enough batteries are charge all this bullshit. are we building more capacity?
elites are investing heavily on small modular reactors running with nuclear fusion to power the data centers. they're fully on board with replacing your average worker with A.I & robotics.
illya sucking on my left testicle, kuro on my right!!

>>519454889
>Fertility is dropping like a stone.
Fertility is at an all-time low due to environmental hazards, but it's still completely adequate. The issue is that women choose not to have children when generally, they could - in fact, due to the vastly improved outcomes in infant mortality and nutrition, decreased fertility could be compensated for easily. Global birthrates should be at an historic peak if we look at material conditions only.

This is a great thing.
The faster these pointless bullshit slave jobs disappear the better.
I don't give a fuck if this means that 60% of humanity is going to be permanently unemployed, because these jobs are only fit for machines and are demeaning to any sentient being.
The last thin excuses to import lesser humans are also going to disappear with the robotization.

On another note it's funny watching this stuff coming true at record pace, as there are still retards who insist that AI is useless and that robotics aren't going to be a viable thing for the next 1000 years.

>>519454967

Yeah this is going to remodel out very existence.
They've been printing money for ages anyways, so the entire fucking system is basically make believe to begin with.
As you said, younger generations see through the make work bullshit and will demand their share for free and it's a valid claim.
Having to work in this mess or paying taxes is essentially meaningless. They could theoretically just print infinite money and reset the currency at will and debt would a non issue.
We're moving closer and closer to a post scarcity society and the only thing keeping us from it, is the kiked system that wants you to be a wagie and creates artificial power dynamics out of thin air.
Power isn't an issue either. They could just build nuclear all over the place and we'd have borderline free energy, which is exactly why they don't want to do it.

>>519444966
>>519445424
For how much people praise The Wire, they always seem to ignore or even hate the second season with the dock workers.
Maybe they hate the idea of automation. I wouldn't be surprised many of those people support unions and don't want to admit all the corruption and nepotism related to those jobs. The Sopranos is another one with the no show jobs side stories.

>>519455523
https://deathstranding.fandom.com/wiki/MULES_and_Drone_Syndrome

>>519448318
/thread

>>519445205
It doesn't matter how rich, they're too few for it to make sense. Why produce food for millions of people that don't have any money?
>they just won't produce the food
Then why own 1000s km2 of farmland to grow food?
>they will just not farm the land anymore
Then what's stopping people from growing it themselves? Are the rich going to pay security guards to kill starving people trying to feed themselves, for no reason at all? And if people do get the land to grow their own food, a whole new economy minus AI will just restart from there. Soon after there will be factories to make clothes, etc.

>>519455523
>We're moving closer and closer to a post scarcity society and the only thing keeping us from it, is the kiked system that wants you to be a wagie and creates artificial power dynamics out of thin air.
Perfect summary.
>Having to work in this mess or paying taxes is essentially meaningless. They could theoretically just print infinite money and reset the currency at will and debt would a non issue.
Ancient Sumerian and Judean civilizations actually did this.

>>519455523
It's going to take a long time before machines are doing everything on the farms, if ever. The most I've seen new shit do so far is plant a field (drone), which was done reluctantly due to the planter being fucked up by rats because drones can't plant like a planter does. I'm telling you, jobs in American agriculture are opening up fast because spics are getting deported and going into hiding. All people would have to do is knock on the door and ask at this point.

>>519444761 (OP)
the key word here is "hopes". Robots are still not sophisticated enough to deal with the irregularities that occur in a warehouse like broken pallets, damaged packages, bent racking etc. I also hope for a realistic sex robot but I know it's not happening soon.

>>519444906
If you haven’t looked at the trends of all of these systems, and come to the conclusion the globohomo jew plan is to sacrifice a lot of us, you’re NGMI.

>>519445739
is illya 4chan coded?

>>519445350
They were imported to replace you, the wage depression is a bonus

My job is safe. Legacy semiconductors all with unique handling requirements. Millions of unique SKUs and the warehouse software is fucked because of migrations from other software. We're currently bombarded with demand for all the NXP shit we have in stock because of the export ban.

>>519444761 (OP)
>2 more years

>>519456252
This is what they said about computers when they were first adopted for bookkeeping. "The internet will never replace the fax machine" etc.

Amazon is a cia military darpa inventions and all this robot and ai ramp up is so the tech is ready when amazon warehouses get used for the war effort

>>519454055
Engineer detected

>>519456898
I will come and work for you

>>519445739
>when they care more about collective wealth than collective breeding
it's a different numbers game

>>519444970
Its not this. Its more like a cart/shuttle. Grabs a box puts it on a conveyor and it goes.
Its only worth it for huge warehouses. You also need a team of poeple to fix them.

>>519457157
>muh internet
In the 60s they believed that robots would be so efficient that by the year 2000 everyone would be working 2-3 hours a day.

>>519455884

I think Death Stranding got it right. It'll be like the Luddite movement on steroids.
Many people have sub triple digit IQs and absolutely no creative ability, or even any real interests and their only meaning in life is work.
This loss of meaning is going to be a big can of worms to deal with societally.
I wager the best thing you can do is just give them free money and try to keep people pacified through entertainment and hope they don't have kids to perpetuate the new underclass.
Mandatory sterilizations or at least requiring a licence for having kids might become a thing at that point.

>>519456083

The banking system definitely will have to change to accommodate the new future. It can't be a profit seeking system in a semi post scarcity world.

>>519456232

You're making the mistake of focusing in the moment and ignoring how fast things have developed in the last few years.
5 years ago no one even thought that AI image or video generation could be a thing and here we are, it's becoming damn near realistic and improves at great speed.
Robotics went from things that can barely walk and have no real time processing capability, to them being able to solve problems in real time.
Give those drones and robotics 10 years and we won't believe our eyes looking at that sector.
And they don't even need to do everything. It's enough they erase just 20% of jobs for good and that's already going to be an absolutely gigantic shitstorm to deal with.

>>519444761 (OP)
They have been about to for decades.

Also warehouses are fucking retarded

>>519445332
>and then they just funnel the money to each other using the money printer.
Point is most jobs are fake. And elites create fake jobs to maintain power.
Good fake jobs you give to your friends , lovers etc, they hire someone else based on favors etc and soon you get most poeple working in a fake economy and no one caring that it could all be automated.

They cant give you UBI othervise they loose power. They cant let you build your own factory of everything because that strips their power too.
Enough managers and narcisists desparate to keep their position is how they rule.

>>519458073

And the daily grind of making it happen
Some guys get over 2000 cases in a night... can a robot even handle 200 daily

I never worked the warehouse, but saw hkw much of a circus it is as a delivery driver.
In reality to make it work and be better then a human doing it, there would be no human like robot. It would have to conveyer belts and vending machine type picking and delivery of each item.

And at that point is it even financially worth it

>>519457784
In technological terms, these were accurate projections. Abundance is artificially suppressed by restricting the supply of currency/credit. Examples
https://www.mutualist.org/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/otkc11.pdf
Amazon has daily destruction quotas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxqz2g05MTI
And of course Steinbeck's complaints about corporations destroying extra food.

>>519457883
>The banking system definitely will have to change to accommodate the new future. It can't be a profit seeking system in a semi post scarcity world.
Read about C.H. Douglas and social credit. Heinlein actually wrote a book about how this would work, picrelated.

>>519457883
>Mandatory sterilizations or at least requiring a licence for having kids might become a thing at that point.
Nah, every example shows that when societies become industrialized the birthrate stabilizes. This is shilled as the "fertility crisis" being used to promote mass migration. Nobody complained that the population levels were too low 50 years ago. If they fall back to what they were then, so what? Resources we become abundant again and people will have kids at the rate they did then.

>>519444761 (OP)
Good. People should not be doing hard manual labor for 8+ hours a day, 5+ days a week, for months and years at a time. The robots will drastically lower the rates of injuries and hospital visits, so that way people who actually need medical care will get it.

>>519458795

C.H Douglas does ring a bell, but I'll have to look into it properly along with the book.

>>519458981

Yes so far the birth rates have dropped like a rock to more sensible levels.
However my only problem is that the poorfag class tends to breed like rabbits, especially since there's a financial incentive to do it in the form of gibs.
I can only imagine the potential shitshow of a sizeable part of population being permanently unemployed and fucking daily out of boredom.
But perhaps women simply reject the lower end men as they're doing now and this population explosion of the lower classes won't happen and we're all good.

It is interesting when you look at the shitshow we have going on with our systems.
Either accidentally or on purpose the world has been guided towards a low birthrate existence by the elites, by pushing feminism and women's education, which has been cited by them as a great way to reduce population.
These guys either saw very accurately what was coming and wanted to obliterate the birth rates for society's own good, or they wanted to be malicious and kill the white population.
Still the end result is the same, birth rate reduction towards the world of automation which is practically essential.
Not a fan of the draconian control system that's being built though with the digital IDs and CBDCs, that stuff can fuck right off.

>>519444761 (OP)
>"could" lower prices
>or we could increases prices since the poors will have no money anyway.
hmm i wonder which they will choose.

>>519458795
>In technological terms, these were accurate projections.
You have to ignore offshoring and decreasing quality to come to that conclusion.
>>519458981
>Nah, every example shows that when societies become industrialized the birthrate stabilizes.
The TFR hasn't stabilized, it's way below replacement. Also, the main cause is feminism and female education, not industrialization/urbanization, though it does play a role.

>>519459504
>Yes so far the birth rates have dropped like a rock to more sensible levels.
>However my only problem is that the poorfag class tends to breed like rabbits, especially since there's a financial incentive to do it in the form of gibs.
what

>>519444761 (OP)
UBI incoming.

>>519444761 (OP)
Good. I'm sick of wagies disdainfully tossing adhesive backings into my shipping envelopes and getting a box with three glass jars accompanied nothing but a scrap of paper the size of an envelope as "packing."

I hate the bipedal robot worker meme so much it's unreal.

>>519444970
No, this is dead end tech like "green energy" a scam they run to scare people about a potential future that will never come.

>>519444906
Nobody will be out of work, less people will be able to do more stuff as all technology has caused

If technology destroyed work then we should go back to doing everything by hand right??

>>519458525
No its not, and its a complete maintenance nightmare, its a field that basicly doesnt exist and out of fucking nowhere you need the largest collection of workers in human history to maintain your armies of cuckbots.

What do you think is cheaper?
10 million shitskins working at minimum wage
Or perhaps 500.000-1.000.000 highly specialized engineers in a field that isnt widely taught, and if it was it would be incredibly difficult to get in, and they can ask pretty much whatever number they desire because there is literally fuck all you can do about it.

I think i would keep the shitskins, although i dont blame them for putting out this fearmongering gay propaganda to make sure all the brainlets fear for their livelyhoods

>>519444761 (OP)
>30 cents
THIS is what $15/hr fags are complaining about? 30 CENTS in savings? lmao

what a fucking joke

Still mid end of the world orgy

One would think they would use another trick

>>519448698
BAKA you newfag, you and your ilk are a diamond dozen nowadays

>>519455307
i mean have you looked into the architecture of world war two underground factories ?
have you heard about tunnel boring machines these days ?

crazy stuff i tell you
speaking of ever thought about remembering camp century ? that u.s. arctic base in the middle of ice, with a nuclear reactor ?
thats totally nuts !
even more so if you find out that it would "only" cost about $160–210 million today to operate a base like that
bonkers right ?
wait till you check out what the average price of a ultra rich elite mansion with doomsday bunker costs
like $50 to $180 million
heh
imagine the shenanigans you could handle if you got a company that has a couple tunnel boring machines, the largest datacenters on the planet, manufactures robots and spaceships on industrial scale, and if you were like the richest anon on the planet
heh

>>519457883
I'm not going to say it's not going to happen because I don't know what the future holds, but as far as doing what I've been doing on the ranch there's no fucking way a machine could do most of it. It would have to be an actual robot with hands and arms and a mind to think quickly. Like moving cattle on horseback, it takes a lot of thinking on your feet. Plus crops that are still picked by hand are done that way for a reason, it's about quality control.

>>519460090
This, people are always cornered

>look we have this robot laborer

Okay so you need people to design, build maintain, repair, sell, finance and insure, clean, update, install, program, monitor those robots.

And all the people that do that need products and services, and those robots are made of thousands of parts that have same needs to make them etc

Computers were supposed to end paper, Has it? No actually we probably produce and use more paper than ever.

>>519460356
>>519460110
>>519459931
>>519459893

Even if we got to the point where robots and ai could do 99% of work then we’d be living in a post scarifity Star Trek society and your concerns about money and jobs and economy become irrelevant so who gives a shit?

>>519445350
>He really thought the brown people were here to work
>And not just a bioweapon to torment whites
Ahahahhahaha

Well, you could learn to code . . . oh, that's right, forget I said that.

>>519444761 (OP)
Good
No one likes to doing them

>>519444761 (OP)
just wait until the robots unionize

>>519460596
>No actually we probably produce and use more paper than ever.
Everything important is written down manually. Having it digitally is pretty fucking convinient until the power goes out or some spastic goes nuts with a sledgehammer in the server room because he lost his job.

There is absolutely no way to build and maintain enough gaybots to actually replace humans. Its some faggot wet dream about how his little factory took over the world.

The worst part is people fall for this propaganda anyway. Its the most obvious thing, and yet most people are completely blinded. We literally have an entire generation of people who think chatgpt isnt just a Google search with extra larp, most people are in fact complete idiots, they have idiot ideas and they want idiotic things in their future, there is no salvation for these people. I literally dont blame Billionaires for taking advantage of people who wish the most of anything to be taken advantage of.

>>519461300
As I said when we get to a place where robots and ai are actually doing everything then our current concerns about money and jobs and the economy become totally irrelevant anyway

It’s like a Bronze Age person freaking out about what everyone is going to do without the palace and ziggurats driving demand for barley and copper lol


Like 1. That will be centuries from now if ever (I think never) 2. It will be such a different civilization by then your question is pointless

>>519448695
Why are mutts so entitled? Fuck you, work like the rest of the world

>>519444761 (OP)
I get a feeling that the recent NY political trend is basically a premonition of what will happen to the entirety of the US in the long term. Tech is really fucking everyones lives now.

>>519447288
>clickers
so close, but this rolls off the tongue much better
>cliggers
always does

>>519448695
No dental and thats basicly what most people in Denmark have

>>519445253
We're just gonna come bring justice to them. Start marking where all their bunkers are. Chase them to the ends of the Earth and beyond. It's not impossible to break into a bunker, you just have to have the time and tooks to break through concrete and steel.

>>519445205
The wealthy don't buy cheap shit and they don't need chinese garbage.

>>519444761 (OP)

> robot will cost 250k dollars plus maintenance costs and will need to be replaced after 5 years
> guy it replaces makes only like 30k or less a year

K, keep me posted.
At my job they couldnt even make a robotic stock picker(one that works in the isle picking skids off of racks) work and we had to send it back and decided its not worth it.

Wow it's the "robots will replaces your job soon so you'd better not unionize" threat. There is 0% chance of this happening. These robots have to be charged, repaired, given firmware updates, etc.

>>519446823
i dont think bathroom hiders realize how big of pests they are
especially when the public and workers share a bathroom

>>519448201
>this will happen to everyone eventually
it's a downward spiral

>>519462988
See
>>519460090
>>519460596
>>519460684
>>519461300
>>519462988


You don’t understand how technology works

>>519449943
they are bringing more people in to boost short term
loan creation and foment civil disorder amongst the population

>>519444761 (OP)
NOOOOO MR KIKEBERG THIS IS UNFAIR. I WANT TO MOVE BOXES 12 HOURS A DAY EVERY DAY FOR 40 YEARS LIKE THE GOOD GOY I AM.

>>519454504
not everyone will make it to the future
not everyone is learning from the past

some song lyrics from some insider

>>519462830
I went to the bathroom and Costco and all the stalls were full, like fucking 6 of them. So I waited for a stall to open up, a couple employees in the stalls noticed I was waiting and didn't even try to make it sound like they were finishing up. They just walk out on their phones and leave without washing their hands. Shitskins of course. By the time I was done pissing the rest of the monkeys came out of the stall, all employees, all shitskins. The corpo fat cats reap what they've sown.

>>519463947
damn, what a nightmare

>>519444761 (OP)
>billionares will collapse society tonsave 30 cents per item

Disgusting

>>519444761 (OP)
Based, fuck Amazon wagies; they're borderline retarded and ship the wrong thing 30% of the time.

>>519444906
Universal Basic Income will become much more widespread

>>519465132
Dream on NEET, I'll fight UBI to my dying breath

>>519444761 (OP)
Let me explain how this went, internally:

1. Overpaid director sees huge budget for warehouse employees

2. Overpaid Project manager writes a great sounding document explaining how robots can be made slightly cheaper than using human workers

3. Project is based on 15 separate robotics sub projects which are all each running on bandaids and lies to meet their quarterly goals (surely those p1 requirements will be fixed in time)

4. Cost to break even depends on all of these projects working together in perfect harmony (they won’t, because they were designed in isolation and have no compatibility)

5. Project begins, all of the design cracks are apparent. No one raises any concern because no one looks past their own noses

6. Scope is reduced, milestones are omitted. Project runs way over budget, and human workers are both still necessary, and are now much slower due to these hundreds of thousands of robotic obstacles in their way

7. Incompetent product managers get promotions and dip before the fallout hits. Incompetent directors call it a major win and write a masturbatory LinkedIn post about it

>>519445205
all this automation is tilted toward mass production and efficiency. if you're only marketing to the wealthy you don't need that

>>519466189
excellent argument

>>519461707

Kys fecaloid

The biggest sector for job growth is retail theft. People steal from brick and mortar shops and put the stolen items on their Amazon store front. Amazon makes this easy because
1) It hurts the competition
2) It provides Amazon with profit
It isn't a sustainable system, obviously. Modern businesses need growth in order to survive so when they become a monopoly, they implode. Amazon has become a monopoly. Amazon is imploding.
Rather than deal with the issue of it's own making, they want to threaten workers with impossible solutions to keep our wages unrealistically low.
If the workplace is eliminated, who will buy the products? There is no need for automated warehouse robots if customers stop existing. Getting rid of a workforce without providing another replacement job reduces the customer base. Then they need layoffs to "smart size". Rinse wash repeat.
Ideally, we should have all gone to College and gotten a cubicle job that produces nothing, keeps us miserable but occupied, and retains the workforce size without actually doing work. But that didn't work. So now we are getting threats.

>>519450272
if we're at a point where they have retreated to their bunkers, none of that will be in effect. and I will concrete truck those bitches

>>519444761 (OP)
I used to work in a warehouse and I loved it. Stayed fit and got to drive a forklift and cuss all day.

>>519444761 (OP)
Further proof why flooding Japan with jeets and niggers and mudslimes is one big NGO op and had nothing to do with their birth rate problem

>>519466033
r u a machine commissioner

>>519444761 (OP)
HELL YEAH. ACCELERATE.

>>519459504
>Not a fan of the draconian control system that's being built though with the digital IDs and CBDCs, that stuff can fuck right off.
Yeah people incorrectly equate these horrible ideas with a national dividend or UBI. We're halfway to UBI now, we just need to subtract the fake work requirements and stop discriminating against men and whites. The biggest issue is still the moralizing of work as valuable in itself.

>You have to ignore offshoring and decreasing quality to come to that conclusion.
You're looking at it backwards. Offshoring, planned obsolesce, and lower quality are all *means* of the implementing artificial scarcity.
>The TFR hasn't stabilized, it's way below replacement. Also, the main cause is feminism and female education, not industrialization/urbanization, though it does play a role.
The birthrate is NEVER going to be flatline stable. A stable birthrate will go up a bit, then down, then up, etc. A sine wave isn't flat but the average is.

>>519456008
all of that hinges on gun rights being taken, among a few other things

>>519466869
>Ideally, we should have all gone to College and gotten a cubicle job that produces nothing, keeps us miserable but occupied, and retains the workforce size without actually doing work. But that didn't work. So now we are getting threats.
You're almost there. You just need to realize that all the money they're giving you is printed from nothing. So instead of making you "work" for it (which actually wastes resources) they should just give it to you for free.

>>519466189
Cheap labor ends up defeating automation as well. This is why the Roman economy, which was based on slave labor, never bothered to develop labor saving devices.

>>519456008
>Are the rich going to pay security guards to kill starving people trying to feed themselves, for no reason at all?
Why would you pay?
You have armies of robots.

>>519468180
>all the money they're giving you is printed from nothing
and it only has value if they can compel us to work for it.
So getting rid of jobs destabilized their net worth.
Giving it away for free completely destroys the value of fiat currency, look at post covid check inflation.

>>519468457
>Ineffective robots whose machine vision gets fucked over and the power generators get bombed
The rich aren't gods and can be overthrown
The French made a sport of it
Stop being a pussy

>>519444761 (OP)
gov't seriously need to start implementing UBI infrastructure like right fucking now.. you take away all these blue collar jobs and what do you think will happen? all those pissed/jobless/hungry blue collar unemployed will come after white color and jews

>>519444906
Pajeets can go back

Like even the idea of relying on machine enforcement is laughable. People could tape shit on their sensors and then you lose information awareness of that area. This is why cops are so fucking funded, they have to handle cities with millions of people. ICE struggled with LA metropolitan areas and they're not blind robots that get easily fooled by novel use cases. They're not fucking terminators lol.

>>519444970
most of amazon warehouse employs niggers that do exactly that, holding a box. what do you think will happen when all those niggers are unemployable? they gonna come to your neighborhood/house and help themselves with your shit, your wife/daughter and make you watch until finally use you as cum sock too.

I can't believe people are freaking out about climate change, sea level rising, water shortage, too much co2, etc.. when real crisis is 80% of the world being unhireable within this decade. I am comfortable with idea of eating humans, are you?

>>519468900
>Black Mirror
So I should also be worried about my mind being copied and put into a forever snow globe on time dilation by 50x time magnitude?

>>519444761 (OP)
>job losses could add 30 cents profit to every sale

>>519468792
>all those pissed/jobless/hungry blue collar unemployed will come after white color and jews
Which justifies anti 2A laws that are already written and ready to go.
This isn't some accidental uncharted territory, we've been here before.

>>519468462
>and it only has value if they can compel us to work for it.
No, our currency currently has domestic value because you have to pay taxes in it. This is what initially creates demand for it. Internationally, it is kept in demand (reserve status) due to the military enforcement of the petrodollar.

>So getting rid of jobs destabilized their net worth.
This is inverted reasoning. You're confusion the expenditure of effort with the creation of real value. Does digging a hole and filling it in create value? No, it destroys it. Ultimately, the correct answer is UBI/national dividend based on NON DEBT BASED fiat currency. Again I know this sounds wild; read C.H Douglas and For Us the Living.

>Giving it away for free completely destroys the value of fiat currency, look at post covid check inflation.
Prices increases after covid weren't based on inflation, or corporate profits wouldn't have increased, as would have eaten the inflation too. Mid-covid was an economic boom precisely BECAUSE we printed money and shut down so many fake jobs. The Fed cut rates and corporations all ditched WFH at the same time in a coordinated effort to get wagies back on the plantation.
https://mronline.org/2022/05/26/u-s-federal-reserve-says-its-goal-is-to-get-wages-down/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12202209/Swollen-eyes-hunchback-claw-like-hands-remote-workers-look-like-2100.html

>>519468462
Sorry fucked up those links
https://mronline.org/2022/05/26/u-s-federal-reserve-says-its-goal-is-to-get-wages-down/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12202209/Swollen-eyes-hunchback-claw-like-hands-remote-workers-look-like-2100.html

>>519469101
drones already completely altered ground warfare
if you dont think robots are a threat, you are delusional

>>519469317
I'm surprised the government has done drone strikes on their own citizens yet

what the fuck happens when all of these people are unemployed? do we really think these people are all going to "learn to code"? a job that AI is taking over anyway?

why the fuck dont we all just be honest and make laws protecting human labor, fucking christ

>>519469545
You let the robots do all the work and cut everyone a check for a free share of the produce. The way to think of a national dividend is your share of the robots' paychecks.

>>519469545
Because they want to genocide the people retard

>>519469545
because fuck you got mine
people love to shit on "losers"
and they eat shit every day at their "real job"
so they are bitter
crabs in a bucket

>>519469518
they probably have we just don't know about it

>>519444761 (OP)
And rent costs are STILL going up.

>>519469721
I mean like on US soil

>>519469659
this will never happen dude

>>519469545
You guys spend all your time attacking labor unions and any leftists policies, and now you're worried about your job being replaced
lol

>>519469749
cops literally murder homeless people
and laugh about it
it wouldnt surprise me at all if some clandestine shit occurred

>>519469545
>why the fuck dont we all just be honest and make laws protecting human labor
Like existing labor law is enforced....
Sometimes you have to take a more personal and exhaustive approach to a problem. And it sounds like effort is too much to ask still. Can you go a full month without buying things through automated companies? Great talk.

>>519469749
>I mean like on US soil
Wow great point let's just all be wagecattle. What you're really saying is "You are objectively correct, but achieving that vision seems too hard."

The first step to improving things is recognizing what to work towards. Eliminating labor, not engaging in artificial labor is the path forward. Once you recognize that the economic system I'm describing is correct, everything just becomes a question of fighting those in power, as opposed to puzzling over the fundamentals of how the economy should work.

>>519444906
Most people have little impact on the elite's income. The whales drive their sales, due to crazy income inequality. So mass population decrease is required, to stop the boogaloos.

>>519469749
>I mean like on US soil
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/robot-delivered-lethal-explosive-in-dallas-police-standoff-was-a-first-experts-say
Are you talking about this? It happened ages ago.

>>519456898
Hey guys, this guy FUCKS

>>519469749
Sorry was replying to
>>519469760

>>519469996
This was for

>>519469760

>>519444761 (OP)
We are gonna go through a real shitty time real soon. Hopefully when humanity comes out the other end it will be to just chill and enjoy life while robots and shit does all the dirty work, sadly I doubt it, elites cannot help themselves not be evil baka.

>>519448303
> costs 30% more over there
> saves 40% over here
Here's something you don't have to worry about: unionization, rising wages, or strikes. You don't have to worry about journalists writing hit pieces about Amazon concentration camp piss breaks or wagie cages. The only human employees in the warehouse are highly paid specialists.
Here's a solution to your 30%: add another layer of managerial AI/robots that send badly packed boxed back for repacks. Maybe you end up with 10% badly packed boxes. Repeat this a few times and in 10 years, boxes are being packed at 100%+ efficiency.
Everything points in this direction.

>>519470421
This is why IP "rights" have to be abolished or severely curtailed. The "elites" will try to claim that these "rights"/laws mean they get to just own all the robots/automation tech/capital and everyone has to wageslave just because. It's the same way the would act if they had a cure for cancer, or anti aging technology. A new understanding of rights and even metaphysics has to emerge and replace "intellectual property rights" and "protestant work ethic".

>>519470455
>The only human employees in the warehouse are highly paid specialists
>highly paid
>highly paid
high pay comes with scarcity. not skill.

>>519470640
You're also selling your skill to a monopsony or at least an oligopsony at that point. Oh you don't want to be an elite robot tech for $15 an hour? Where else are you going to go?

>>519470626
Yeah but they are not gonna give it up for free and ain't no way the societal institutions are gonna do it either. There has to be some kind of uprising from the masses to fix this shit. Too bad vast majority of people are docile and/or don't give a shit whatever is going on.

>>519468715
I'm just saying
get a robot
either the farm land is nationalized, and individuals subsidized
or it is merely recognized all that energy would be WAY better spent fueling robots doing other stuff and the result accordingly
In case of the former, its slow death. you might be OK with this. Your robot helps you grow, and persist via children
in case of the latter, well. Not good times, but at least you might literally have more hands to do what needs doing.

>>519457700
Amazon warehouses already have a fuck ton of automation handling their logistics. THAT is what real robots look like. Not bipeds.

Ask any robot person. Bipedal robots are stupid and they only do it so they don't freak people out. The best root would be a spider like robot that can go on 2 legs if needed.

>>519469140
I wonder how elites plan to protect themselves. cops family will be affected unless they too work for police/gov't, same with military families. working class outnumbers cops/military by a huge factor. perhaps that's how civilizations fall. I still don't understand how every politician isn't scrambling right now for this scenario.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU

>>519470640

Why is IT so highly paid when there is an entire country full of a billion+ people that can apparently do it.
They should make less than a cashier at walmart if that was true.

>>519472099
Best kind of robot propably has wheels or tracks or flying. I don't really get the point of not freaking people out, if anything bipedal therefore more humanlike freaks people out more.

>>519471810
For 99% of aplications bipeds are usles marketing stunt. But boomer investors need to see it regardless.

>>519473141
biped is most optimal shape for most cases, biped can always bend and operate on 4 limbs when need to. spider like only good for stuff like mining and navigating terrain where humans don't usually go. it's all about occupying small foot print which bipedal do

>>519444906
these robots will be replacing immigrants, not americans. so they will simply go back home, or never come here in the first place, and continue doing whatever stupid shit third worlders do with their lives.

>>519444761 (OP)
Good
>>519444906
Capitalism doesn't do demand side. It has not cared about it since the 1970s.

>>519444761 (OP)
>could shave 30 Cents of each item...
LMAO do you really think benzos will give you those 30 cents ?? He will just pocket the money and shit will stay the same price. Remember prices never go down. They stay the same or go up.

>>519473429
>Capitalism doesn't do demand side. It has not cared about it since the 1970s.
Yes it does. Planned obsolescence, addictive additives, psychologically manipulative marketing, pharmakeia, legal mandates (e.g. insurance), rent seeking/licensing instead of sales, etc.

>>519473317
>biped is most optimal shape for most cases
Only if you don't care about the job being done at any kind of speed whatsoever. Bipedal robots are so fucking bad, slow, and constantly fuck off because they don't actually know what they're doing.

>>519444761 (OP)
Good. I haven’t met a single person who works at these. They probably don’t even have a degree and can’t speak a second language.

>>519444761 (OP)
good. these jobs are fucking horrible to actually work anyways and ill suited for humans

>>519444761 (OP)
Humanity needs protecting from its self. There is obviously going to be a transition from one era to the other. Vast majority of people are wage cucks, if robots take wage cuck jobs, thats an awful lot of people struggling to make ends meet

>>519474158
Robots will do no such thing.

This will never happen. If you ever had a factory job they are too cheap to replace A FUCKING DRILL

A NECESSARY DRILL

Extort them. Revolt.

>>519473989
That's on the edges. Keynesian economics is explicit demand side economics. It became unsustainable around 1970 because of inflation (or threat of a communist revolution maybe).

>>519448201
The Wired article mentioned in the letter:
https://sites.cc.gatech.edu/computing/nano/documents/Joy%20-%20Why%20the%20Future%20Doesn%27t%20Need%20Us.pdf

>>519474056
bipedal were bad few years ago, now 500kg robot can easily do backflips. show me how many humans can do that. can you do a backflip? robots have better balance than humans by a mile. give it few more years and you will not be able to trip a bipedal robot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS4rOqNDTBk

>>519474158
>robots become neets
wasnt the ending i was expecting

>>519474270
Robots will literally replace wage cucks. How will they not

>>519474506
The Romans never developed labor saving devices precisely because they had so many slaves. Low wages kill innovation.

>>519474691
my question is; who is supposed to be buying all the shit robots will be producing when humans have no jobs, no money to buy any of that shit?

>>519474889
under classical economic theory, the cost of goods would
have to plummet in order to compensate for collapsing aggregate demand

>>519474442
>500kg robot can easily do backflips
Because doing a backflip in an open space doesn't require you to know anything about your environment. That's the huge problem with robots; they can't interact with their environment.

>>519474506
There has been zero progress in making robots interact with real world environments in a meaningful way. Zero.

>>519444761 (OP)
>30 cents

>>519459779
Found the feminism!

>>519475013
>space doesn't require you to know anything about your environment.
what do you think 6G or LiFi is for? entire civie space will be saturated with signal. in few years robots won't even need lidar or cameras anymore since they'll be able to "feel" vibrations of those signals to see the world around them. Lidar/cameras will be used for places where no signal can reach

>>519444966
30 cent on every item, you will save thousands of dollars a year

>>519469787
I dont consider policies about refusing to hand over any and all labor to automation a "leftist policy". If anything, I'm looking out for the blue collar man with this.

>>519445148
just become rich. Problem solved

>>519474889
The correct answer is you give everyone a national dividend. The dividend scales with the value of the real economy/amount of automation. At 100% automation, the (let's say monthly) dividend is about 1/12 of the value of all real value of the automated economy per year. It 70%, it's (.7)(1/12), etc. If there were no automation, then there is no dividend so maximum employment is encouraged. At 70%, we're trying to tap only 30% of the available labor, with everything else paid for by the value of the dividend. This is what Heinlein describes in For Us the Living.

The answer the "elites" want is ultimately to just enslave everyone so you don't have to pay them and they make stuff for the elites for free. This is the Snowpiercer model.

>>519454055
>A complex machine is useless if a critical part breaks in half due to a poor design and maintenance

Apply this to Chinese industrial accident vids..

>>519444761 (OP)
I used to work in a factory the robots suck dick and need nonstop maintenance you'll need a horde of tech workers and mechanics to keep them running and those positions aren't cheap

>>519455580
The crazy thing about The Wire is that the unions were corrupt as fuck, but there were also more people than there were jobs to go around. Because the wealthy city elites cared more about turning the docks into more shopping centers to make Baltimore more pretty for tourists.
The Wire should have redpilled every HBO-watching shitlib, but it had the complete opposite effect
>every nigger is corrupt, and does not give a SHIT about their own people
>every democrat is corrupt, and does not give a SHIT about their own people
>every labor union is corrupt and does not give a SHIT about their own people
>every federal bureau is corrupt and does not give a SHIT about the american people
>the schools are corrupt and only care about pushing the students out and keeping the government happy
>ironically the only people who give a fuck are the cops but their hands are tied at all times
The only systemic injustice was that the entire system is rotten to the core, because it's too big, too overpopulated, too corrupt, and too self-serving to carry out it's intended purpose because multicultural democracies can only support self-serving, cultural salad bowl politics. Every single institution that shitlibs/liberals/democrats/leftists worship is broken, fundamentally so. So either they're all ignorant, or liars.

>>519445102
Nigga that already happened, when their computers went down they also ceased delivery.

>>519475362
>The correct answer is you give everyone a national dividend.
shouldn't they been doing that 10 years ago when this type of videos started to come out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU
what happened to asian faggot that was all about UBI when he was running for president, why is he so quiet now? if these faggots in gov't think they can wait until depression happens and 50% of the population is unemployed and hungry to start implementing UBI.. they are wrong and it will lead to a lot of bloodshed. people today aren't as morally adjusted as they were in 1920s. I too believe we must pass laws right now that will tax companies based on how many AI/robots they employ vs humans. for every human replaced a tax would increase that would fund UBI. fully automated companies would pay highest tax into UBI while companies that employ all humans would pay none.
as for elites enslaving everyone, we're already there. also I don't understand their mindset in what their plan is when everyone is out of job, out of housing, hungry. if you are to slaughter cows you best do it when they are happy and obvious, not when they are stressed and starved and trust no one. elites themselves might be protected and sheltered far from normies, but their minions like gov't, judges, cops, military are not and will easily be slaughtered by the masses which then cuts off the hands of elite to protect them. it's not hard to find out where they are hiding and come for them like jews did with Romanov Tsar and his family in 1900

>>519454055
>>519445102
>>519475943
the jeets are going to control the robots in the first phase retards. Imagine An amry of stinkless jeeets that don't need visas. This is what robots will do. Jeets in warehouses in india strapped to fucking vr head set and controls, controlling the robots and providing data.

Good. Tons of unemployed people with no money means no lack of people wanting to take out bad guys.

Hell even boomers getting unlimited money will stop when people figure this out.

>>519449534
This.
I am ignoring that entire industry because they look like roasties.

>>519475340
Jewish "logic".

Just be born rich.
Just find a pier into the ocean and keep walking.

>>519444906
What's more important is quarterly profits.

>>519444761 (OP)
I could see the post office going this route but most places that deal with boxes couldnt use robots because there arent any standards in box sizes. People can ship whatever they want pretty much. A robot would need to have specific package shapes to work with in order to run smoothly.

>>519460012
exactly

>>519444906
What you mean an economy entirely reliant on middle class consumer spending on cheap junk can’t exist without the middle class consumer? This is a disaster nobody could have lredicted

>>519444761 (OP)
None of this shit is going to work.

>>519455580
The dock workers episodes were really tame compared to the episodes with the blacks in them. The best part was when Ziggy got robbed by Cheese for his coat and Ivan pulled out the UZI on them and got most of Ziggys stuff back.

>>519476087
Andrew Yang was at best a moron and at worst a shill/controlled opposition. He actually argued that one of the goals of his "freedom dividend" was to make people work more! Delusional. He and Shapiro also complain that not enough people are leaving their homes to work in big cities, i.e. agenda 21.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42OsTANhnbs

>>519475400
AI isnt cheap either how many billions does it take to run the massive severs for this shit ? cheaper to just pay a human to do it to start with

>>519445979
what books should I read?

>>519444761 (OP)
Most warehouses are disorganized shitholes, it will take a long time before humans are obsolete.

i have a theory.. that this whole charade of consumerism and capitalism are probably the biggest scams of the modern age right next to ((banking)) and ((big pharma)). Its all a house of cards completely and solely built to usher their anti chirst system where you either accept him as god or they kill you.

Life and reality aren't suppossed to be one giant ass fucking rat race that has you stressed 24/7 over "rent" and "bills" because we live in a planet where most the shit can be made for dam near next to nothing.

>>519444761 (OP)
>Human trafficked indentured servitude is about to be eliminated along with the RINO powerbase built upon neo-feudal bondage

GOOD.

>>519476170
Post the video of the pizza robot that freaks out and rapes the table instead.

>>519477037
all those faggots like shapiro and every other "streamer" think their jobs are secure.. internet prices haven't dropped and phone companies still offering shitty few gigs for ridiculous price. it won't be long at this rate when normies can't afford internet beyond text only browsing to access gov't services. most people truly are cattle walking around obvious to what's coming very very soon. like Gates said; next pandemic is coming soon but it won't be biological in a sense of a coofer virus, it'll be technological and majority of humans will be the bacteria in that scenario marked for eradication

>>519477599
dumb poojeet think your mom & pop warehouse matters. those type of warehouses that hold few tons of dildos are irrelevant. look at your sea ports today, most of them are fully automated. a decade ago they could easily employ 1000 people, today it's no more than 30, in 2 years it'll be 5

>>519478094
>in 2 years every warehouse in north america will be completely reorganized, retooled, and roboticized under new management with money from nowhere
Kek, you're a life virgin. I set a notification to make a thread linking back to this post in 2 years to laugh at you again.

>>519444906
YouTubers, shipwrights, dentists, patent lawyers, sub saharan africans, retired actors receiving residuals, soldiers, porn actresses, franchised fast food employees

>>519444970
>can this thing do something more complex than holding a box

It replaces 90% of a worker.
Let's face it; 90% of their job is automatable anyway.

Leaving a team of 'supervisors' looking after an army of robo-working-class.

>>519478506
I understand you're a poojeet so logical concepts are hard for you. MOM & POP warehouses are irrelevant and will not exist soon enough. all they are used for are for storing dildos you use on your family members while they are asleep. actual warehouses have been automated for almost a decade now

>>519478633
90% of your average low skill job isn't automatable. The only way you could think that is if you'd never worked one.

>>519478748
You don't know how supply chains or manufacturing work... not everything is fucking Amazon deliveries.
>muh poojeet
At least you know your argument is too weak to stand on its own so you have to inject random arguments as a safety net. Very brown-eyed behaviour.

We did it bros! We helped trump save the economy!

>>519444761 (OP)
>mind numbing dumb work gets automated
Fuck, why did that take so long?

>>519478941
>bronze will never replace the rock
>iron will never replace bronze
>the gun will never replace the sword
>the car will never replace the horse
>electric light will never replace whale oil
>the internet will never replace the fax machine
You are here

>>519479075
>You don't know how supply chains or manufacturing work...
I don't think you do, boka chod

>>519479206
Said it a million times: Cloward-Piven strategy. Flood the West with unskilled workers and then immediately make them obsolete to collapse us with dependent societal deadweight. This was detailed very clearly in the 90s:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy

>The strategy aims to utilize "militant anti poverty groups" to facilitate a "political crisis" by overloading the welfare system via an increase in welfare claims, forcing the creation of a system of guaranteed minimum income and "redistributing income through the federal government"

Here are Cloward and Piven standing right behind Clinton as he signed their Motor Voter law, paving the way to stealing all future elections:

https://youtu.be/VEIH5AlX0Ns

At 23:05

>>519479234
The advantages to all of the formers over the latters were immediately apparent. Meanwhile after years of attempts no one has made a bipedal robot that can move a couple empty boxes around in a tightly controlled environment without spazzing out.

You're just a dumbshit pipedreamer who doesn't understand the fundamental issue in that robots simply can't interact with the real world in any meaningful capacity.

>>519479206
Tech requires investment. Slaves are free when you have debt based money.

>>519479369
>no u
And just like that, you give up. It's a good thing too because you're a panicked reactionary retard with no information. One who is concerned about unskilled labourers being replaced... kind of says a lot about you.

>>519479471
>The advantages to all of the formers over the latters were immediately apparent. Meanwhile after years of attempts no one has made a bipedal robot that can move a couple empty boxes around in a tightly controlled environment without spazzing out.
Yeah I'm sure that's what they thought when the ENIAC was the size of a shed. They literally said the same thing about electric lights and cars. We're on the verge of building Commander Data tier androids and you're like "We have reached the end of technology".

>>519479234
All inventions are great when history only remembers the ones that are still around

i'm sure the robots are cheaper lol. lmao.

>>519479471
>PoRtAbLe CoMpUtReS haVe No ApParEnT appLicAtIoN

>>519444966
This

>>519479778
>We're on the verge of building Commander Data tier androids
How many more would you say weeks until then? Around two? There is absolutely zero reason to think these pieces of junk are going to display any shred of competence any time soon. Again the fundamental issue here is they simply cannot interact with their environment in any meaningful way. The software they're running is terrible, and they're mechanically clunky. Go get a warehouse or retail job because you've clearly no idea what they entail.

>>519480072
>automated ports exist but automated warehouses are impossible
https://www.apmterminals.com/en/maasvlakte/about/our-terminal

Let me guess, the earth is flat right?

>>519479934
For massive volume brainless shit in/shit out operations like Amazon, definitely. I expect nothing less of a man who started his empire by ripping off book publishers with delivery scams.

>>519479571
there is no point of arguing with you, street shitter. just like your local convenience shop is irrelevant to places like walmart/costo/target/etc.. most of them go out of business within few years because they never have what you need and you always end up going to bigger chains for cheaper prices and products that aren't expired or grazed by rats. nobody uses those warehouses you talking about, those are usually ran and operated by the company that owns them for their own purposes to store product they produce. thus irrelevant just like your low iq, poojeet

>>519480333
Stacking containers neatly on top of each other in an empty dock is fucking nothing compared to what your average warehouse/retail worker does. You've never had a job and it's so obvious.

.

>>519480333
A logistic chain has different levels. It is easy to automate a port as nearly everything is in a shipping container. Eventually you need to break that down and the further down the chain you go the more human and harder to automate it becomes.
I work operations for a hardware store and you would believe the variety and quality of pallets received. By the time it gets to the store most is all stripped off pallets and loaded onto the truck by hand to maximize what can fit in the truck.
Imagine the trailer loaded top to bottom in different sized product with a few pallets sprinkled around, with always the heavy shit loaded atop a pallet of toilet paper.
It is a fuck show but one humans can deal with.
You would have to redesign the whole logistic chain top to bottom. Can you imagine a company doing that when they won't even buy extended forks for the forklifts?

>>519469545
Because the lobbying machine has taken over. You don't have fucking rights anymore, faggot. They just let you believe you do.

>>519444906
buy a doomsday bunker or gtfo

>>519480800
That guy really never has had a job. I work in a toy store and the idea that a robot could do what I do is laughable. We have barely any warehouse space so most excess stock goes on a canopy shelf on the shop floor, except we unbox it so there's no horrible looking brown boxes on the shop floor. Can you imagine a robot safely stacking loose stock on a 12ft high shelf where something falling off and hitting a kid is a genuine risk? And that's before you get into topics like remerchandising shelves on the fly, covering other departments, forklift operation, bike building, and a hundred other things that can just happen.

>>519480800
Nobody is arguing that some things aren't harder to automate than others. However, the idea that these things represent an unbreakable barrier is nonsense. Most the shit we have now will seem as primitive as the ENIAC now seems to us.

>>519444906
bezos believes that its an okay that ai is a bubble because the long term gains for humanity will be for the benefit for everyone
it sounds charitable if people's lives were't affected

>>519480557
>muh poojeet
>rest or comment is still about retail and completely ignores what i said
Told you that's all you had, kek. You're not White, and you're poor.