Thread 519501693

New update on Ukraine's military casualties.
Ualosses.org has the names of 165,408 killed or missing Ukrainian soldiers.
Last update in early September was at 159,708 soldiers killed or missing.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/515205087

The western empire's casualty figures are basically just the "I imagine myself in Europe, leading my platoon" kara boga pasta raceswapped with Ukrainians

Surely the Russians will push straight to Kiev in two more weeks

>>519501693 (OP)
Russia has lost over 1.1 million troops. Looks like the 14:1 ratio isn't so crazy after all.

>>519502169
What's that in 3/5ths? Checkmate hylhyl.

>>519502169
It's sad because Russia's wounded to KIA ratio is so high because of their lack of medievac.

>>519502448
Meanwhile back in reality, body exchange rations are over 50 to 1 for Russia

>>519502169
>>519502448
The Russians currently have 148,518 military deaths confirmed by name on poteru.net
There's not a big difference between the two sides in the number of confirmed deaths.

>>519502640
Russia doesn't want it's dead back because a body means a payout to the babushka.

>>519502803
>confirmed
exactly, they don't want their dead back for the reason I said>>519502836

>>519501693 (OP)
>>519502169
>Ukraine lost 165K
>they at the double digit wave of mobilization, they catch people on streets and sending them to the front lines right away, and preparing to conscript women and 18 y.o.
>Russia lost over 1.1 million
>no mobilization whatsoever
Totally plausible.

>>519503182
>>no mobilization whatsoever
what are you talking about?

>>519502894
The Russians retrieve their own side's bodies because they are the ones advancing.
Also, the Russians automatically relabel missing in action soldiers to killed in action after 9 months even if they don't have the bodies.
On the other hand, the Ukrainian side has soldiers who died in 2022 who are still labelled as missing in action.

>>519503340
How do you know any of this?

>>519502836
They don't want, so Ukraine obliges them and doesn't send them back? Can we see those masses of stored Russian bodies?

>>519503182
Comparable figure for the Russian side is 148k confirmed deaths.
>>519502803

>>519503420
no, Russia refuses to take them back. it's very simple and makes perfect sense from Russia's perspective

>>519503313
retard.

>>519503496
Ok, so can we see proofs of what you claim? Do we even have statements from hohol officials claiming so? Seems like cope.

>>519503527
russia did have a mobilization though so I have no idea what you're talking about

1.7

>>519502836
Meanwhile outside of NAFO reality marble.

>>519503550
>Do we even have statements from hohol officials claiming so?
yes

>>519503581
Didn't read that wall to text, but it is just a fact that russia doesn't want the dead back due to financial obligations

>>519501693 (OP)
This war has been going so slowly holy fuck.
In WW2 Soviet Union would have already lost like 5 million by now.
Fake and Gay war.

>>519501693 (OP)
Russia lost over a million? Lmao at all the larpers in here saying Russia was dominating

>>519503613
>if I keep projecting hard enough it will become reality!
It won't. And you trannies will never become women.

>>519503590
Can we see them?

>>519503690
Scroll up. Russia lost 148k.

>>519503692
It makes perfect sense for Russia not to take them back when that means a payout to babushka...does it not?

>>519501693 (OP)
I hope this war never ends until all slaveshits are removed from this earth
Total slaveshit death

>>519503703
Why do you care what Ukrianian officials say?

>>519503788
Ok, so we don't have any statements no any proofs that Russia does not accept their dead in these exchanges. So why a ratio over 50 to 1?

>>519503741
You're projecting so hard that even Batman can see your signal.

>>519501693 (OP)
Now quintuple that number. The Ukraine has suffered at least 600,000 unrecoverable casualties, from permanent cripples to the dead, and that's a conservative number. The Russians suffered similar rates of attrition during 22-23, but as they took over the strategic initiative and the west ran out of munitions to give to the Ukraine in 24 their irrecoverable casualty rate plummeted and they may be as low as 150,000 to the Ukrainians but probably 250,000-300,000.

We'll never know the real numbers because westerners lie and say they lost less soldiers then they did and easterners lie and say they lost way more soldiers then they did, but anyone with knowledge of military affairs and an IQ over 95 knows that the Ukrainians took the ass kicking in this war and that by comparison the Russians have lost far fewer men than such a scale of conflict would normally entail. The Ukrainians were always major idiots to provoke the conflict and they're bigger idiots still for not negotiating in 22-23 when they had cards on the table.

>>519502640
The retreating army has less bodies than the invading army?
Woooow that's miraculous

>>519503732
I choose to believe the other unsourced anon

>>519503788
>>519503861
No there is but why do you care what Ukrianian officials say?

>>519503878
You won't answer the question.

>>519503888
Ok, but 50 to 1? Seems like a very loopsized ratio even for that explanation
>>519503923
So you admit you lied? Why is lying so natural to kikes?

>>519502169
Where do people get these numbers? 23000 armored vehicles? 65000 fuel tankers and trucks? 11000 tanks? There's no way russia even had that many tanks to begin with, nor trucks or armored vehicles. Do they just fly over the same areas and count the same vehicles over and over? Also, this claim of 1 million men dying so far is equal to over 1000 per day. If it's casualties(including wounded) then maybe that's possible. But 1000 dead a day on a frontline that moves a few meters a day with drones as a primary killing force? No fucking way. Men would just stay inside their trenches and wait until electronic jamming was in effect before peeking out.

what will ukrainians say once they lose the war? will the pretend they never wanted everything east of the dneiper river anyway? will they pretend to be something other than ukrainians? pollacks?

>>519502169
The source of this "data" is also ukraine and there's not a single piece of evidence to back that up.
Body exchange rates are 39:1 in favor of Russia.

>inb4 Russia is advacing and ukraine can't recover bodies
Yeah. No shit sherlock.
Ukraine is losing.
Hence their high deaths.
Only single digit IQ clinical retards would believe that a nation that is losing 500 sq km every month is killing millions of Russians.

>>519503556
Russia had two small waves of mobilization so far.
Ukraine is in constant state of mobilization and kidnapping people of the streets.

>>519504067
They will just remember they are Russians with accent and will claim they never liked the regime. A few will flee to the West

>>519503420
>Can we see those masses of stored Russian bodies?
Ukraine isn't collecting Russian bodies, why bother? Russia doesn't want them. Ukraine is leaving them to fertilize the sunflowers.

>>519504107
>Russia had two small waves of mobilization
So I was right

>>519503965
No I posted it "kiwi" anon

>>519503182
These ppl are fucking insane, Ivan.
But in all honesty, it saddens me that Russia is probably approaching 200k deaths.
200.
For fucking what?
Why won't Putin and your generals just go fucking win, Marine Corps style?
Just win!
Kill Zelenskyy, take Kiev!
Wtf is the hold up??
You had Kiev surrounded like 2 weeks o to the war. You can't tell me you aren't capable of it.
Go fucking win!

Again NAFO troons tryharding to get a "gocha" by spreading bullshit online.

Simple fact: if Ukrainian casualties would be low, they wouldn't have to retreat.

>>519504304
>Kill Zelenskyy, take Kiev!
>Wtf is the hold up??
Russians love to wait for NATO money to accumulate in some small area over many months, and then bomb it all with a single missile.

>>519503965
Russia is advancing on the entire front but very slowly. Ukraine can't even hold the front and has better things to do than taking Russian bodies with them who came in attacks while retreating. They are not even able to take Ukrainian bodies with them.

>>519504393
Ukraine isn't registering its casualties simply speaking. Shitloads of Ukrainians go AWOL nowadays and their commanders allow it.

This is why most Ukrainian units are understaffed almost by half, sometimes only 40% personnel is available out of the reported 100%.
And neither Zelensky nor high military command of Ukraine knows it. This is why there's so much drama in the command over there.
Real Ukainian losses, KIA/WIA/MIA included likely is over 2 million at this point.

>>519504536
Ah yes the leaders of the country don't know what's going on, on the front but some russian faggot squatting in Lithuania knows everything what's happening on the front.

>>519504939
>leaders
that's a funny joke m8
Ukraine is incredibly corrupt, most corrupt country in Europe in fact. And its army is at the top of the corruption ladder.

Did you forget that just recently US reported that they don't know where 50% of all their weapons go? They send them to Ukraine as aid, and then they suddenly go poof. And cannot be traced.
They end up on the black market, and Ukrainian generals make great bucks from it.

The fact that many Ukranian units are ~50% understaffed is something even Ukrainian officers were reporting for at least 2 years already, in occasions. This is because actual morale to fight is low, and the soldiers just ditch the frontline the very first opportunity they can find. Those in charge of those units can't do much to stop it, and in fact even cash in on it (why not take some bribes to let deserters desert, if they're going to desert anyway)?

The 2million losses kia/mia/wia combined isn't my words btw, it comes from people on the ground.