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Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519711262 [Report] >>519711448 >>519711531 >>519711850 >>519712677 >>519713025 >>519713103 >>519713194 >>519713349 >>519714116 >>519714541 >>519714544 >>519714635 >>519714646 >>519714675 >>519714687 >>519714830 >>519714968 >>519715508 >>519715632 >>519715680 >>519715998 >>519716550 >>519716575 >>519717145 >>519717484 >>519717494 >>519717723 >>519717894 >>519718411 >>519719247 >>519719681 >>519719915 >>519720182 >>519720349 >>519720503 >>519720524 >>519720809 >>519720938 >>519721106 >>519721645 >>519721696 >>519721783 >>519721851 >>519722214 >>519722551 >>519722561 >>519723004 >>519723222 >>519723420 >>519723671 >>519723755 >>519724040 >>519724459 >>519725451
What is the lefts argument against billionnaires?
Other than jealousy?
Anonymous (ID: okxHlRm2) Bulgaria No.519711448 [Report] >>519711510 >>519711889 >>519715285 >>519715709 >>519716294 >>519722979
>>519711262 (OP)
Free will in big life choices. With billionaires, you can not live a life of your own choices. If it's against their interests, you will be severely punished, financially or even legally.
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519711510 [Report] >>519721284
>>519711448
You can’t have freedom without billionnaires
Anonymous (ID: GPHFMZc6) Canada No.519711531 [Report] >>519711626
>>519711262 (OP)
Too much power over the decisions of the allocation of capital wealth, and too much sway in the political sphere with money capital wealth.
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519711626 [Report] >>519712058 >>519712179
>>519711531
Then who else should have that power?
Anonymous (ID: C/WMxSFJ) United States No.519711850 [Report]
>>519711262 (OP)
lack of diversity, too much power in single hands
Anonymous (ID: gSshiE+m) United States No.519711889 [Report] >>519712104
>>519711448
Basically this. Also profit margin min-maxing. Costs keep going up, and as a result, wages go up to keep up, which just makes prices go up more because all that matters is the profit margin. We have 35 trillion of national debt now but, in 1970, this would be equivalent to about 4 trillion in 1970.
Anonymous (ID: gSshiE+m) United States No.519712058 [Report] >>519712142
>>519711626
>Then who else should have that power?
The people who run the companies should have that power and corporate personhood should go away since all corporate personhood is is a mechanism through which billionaires redirect responsibility.
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519712104 [Report]
>>519711889
But that’s due to socialists like the democrats I’m talking pro capitalism
Billionnaires
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519712142 [Report] >>519716094
>>519712058
I don’t like that idea. If I own a stock I want to be the owner of that company why do I want the employees to be owners then I can’t own it
Anonymous (ID: GPHFMZc6) Canada No.519712179 [Report] >>519712297
>>519711626
More options for the regular joe to have a shareholders stake in matters would be a start imo.
In Saudi Arabia the citizens benefit from oil, same as with Netherlands.
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519712297 [Report] >>519713067
>>519712179
I don’t like that idea because the oil belongs to the owner of it not random jerks
Anonymous (ID: sjnImOF4) No.519712531 [Report]
OP defends pedos
Anonymous (ID: nHBGYWrm) United States No.519712675 [Report] >>519713714
Why is it bad that BlackRock buys up all the single family homes?
Anonymous (ID: B+O78S6a) United States No.519712677 [Report] >>519712943
>>519711262 (OP)
There literally isn't one other than seething jealousy. Just ask them the next time they say "(billionaire) should give their money to charity" exactly how much they personally donate or volunteer. The silence is always deafening.
I don't donate or volunteer, it's not my problem so fuck em.
Anonymous (ID: nHBGYWrm) United States No.519712943 [Report] >>519713332
>>519712677
I never said billionaires should give anything to charity. The government should tax them.
Anonymous (ID: CIjocj+D) United States No.519713025 [Report] >>519713966
>>519711262 (OP)
leftists advocate for social welfare programs. the welfare programs cost money. billionaires have money
from their perspective these programs are a matter of human rights and billionaires are insufficiently concerned with the wellbeing of their fellow man
imo i think there should be a flat tax rate for all with no breaks
Anonymous (ID: 2g+B0Ga6) Canada No.519713067 [Report] >>519713667
>>519712297
The state owns the oil in both scenarios, and the average citizen benefits from it.

Would you trust a singular man or woman to control vast amounts of energy resources or a body whose purpose is to serve the people? And this can be done via transparency laws and infrastructure bills that get voted on.

Henry Ford trickled down large amounts of his wealth down to his workers as well, but the Dodge brothers fought agaisnt him, forcing him to shell out large amounts of profits and capital gains to shareholders because Ford was a public company. If there was a mechanism that made public company's give out shares, or at least profita to workers, wouldn't that be a good idea?
Anonymous (ID: riZhVtl1) United States No.519713103 [Report] >>519713767 >>519715029
>>519711262 (OP)
Anonymous (ID: trDh1dxK) No.519713194 [Report] >>519713373
>>519711262 (OP)
I hate the left and I hate billionaires. Not sure why you would phrase it like only the left hates the rich.
Anonymous (ID: B+O78S6a) United States No.519713332 [Report] >>519713966 >>519716410
>>519712943
Taxes are theft though, so no
Get a job
Anonymous (ID: vAz7Jkj0) United States No.519713349 [Report] >>519713819
>>519711262 (OP)
Billionaires enable corruption. If you are a "good" and "nice" person who is too nice to exploit people or too naive about power, corruption seems evil. But those people from my study have ended up on the right side of history but in their time losers and sacrificed as others simply complied with the rich and powerful. Evil is just a part of life. Accept it and embrace it or be a failure. That is a hard lesson all "good" men must learn.
Anonymous (ID: B+O78S6a) United States No.519713373 [Report]
>>519713194
>t. Leftist
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519713667 [Report] >>519714288
>>519713067
No, Dodge was right to sue Ford. The purpose of a business is to maximize shareholder value.

Workers at Ford factories were earning the equivilent of double the average salary it was like 120k a year. Why should we give more money to people already making that much?
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519713714 [Report]
>>519712675
You mean the homes that the government is seizing to give to transgender immigrants??,
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519713767 [Report]
>>519713103
Yeah he’s right.

In tech you have people demanding six figures
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519713819 [Report]
>>519713349
Learn to write
Anonymous (ID: nHBGYWrm) United States No.519713966 [Report] >>519714413 >>519720734
>>519713025
Wrong again. Even in lieu of all social programs, the rich should be taxed. Wealth inequality creates higher standards of living. It turns basic necessities into commodities.
A billionaire isn't somebody with $1,000,000,000 in the bank. A billionaire is somebody with billions in assets. Those assets include all the single family homes, storefronts, office buildings and apartments in your neighborhood. The billionaire doesn't need to collect rent, he only needs his assets to appreciate. That's why those assets remain empty and out of reach from people who need them and could use them to build wealth in your neighborhood. That's why society is failing.

>>519713332
I'm a business owner and a property owner.
Anonymous (ID: 4aB5jOzK) Brazil No.519714116 [Report] >>519715062
>>519711262 (OP)
Billoonaires existing in a system where everyone starts the race from the starting line is fine. The problem is old money + nepotism means billionaires are not only born at the finish line, but keep extending the track meaning 90% of people will never even see the line within their lifetimes.
Flush out the old money and the nepos and then we can talk.
Anonymous (ID: 2g+B0Ga6) Canada No.519714288 [Report] >>519716162
>>519713667
A business? No, a corporation, yes.
But if a corporation had to incorporate worker shareholder plans or profit sharing, it would give the workers a much higher incentive to stay, and create a more valuable product. See Toyota, for example. Toyota gives a dividend, a good one, a good retirement package. That's an incentive for workers.
Anonymous (ID: Zqyxp5nj) United States No.519714298 [Report]
Why should working normal ass people be starving while some motherfucker can burn millions and be like “eh normal Tuesday” I ain’t no communist but cmon, in a country with millions of homeless can you really say every single one of them got there on their own and deserves to stay like that? Plus these people have to survive somehow, usually off the backs of the slightly more fortunate instead of those who could literally jerk off in a cave for the next 3000 years and be rich as hell still.
Anonymous (ID: 2g+B0Ga6) Canada No.519714413 [Report] >>519714637 >>519715074 >>519716419 >>519716749 >>519717051
>>519713966
The issue with overly taxing the rich is that they will take their business to where it is cheaper. There has to be other mechanism to enrich the working class without overly taxing the rich. Just more inherent needs to be made into the working people.
Anonymous (ID: H2M+AbfL) Mexico No.519714541 [Report]
>>519711262 (OP)
you wont get hired by gates or bezos, sanjeet, only feds read your posts here
Anonymous (ID: u37Mn7dV) Canada No.519714544 [Report]
>>519711262 (OP)
Absolutely inefficient way of distributing wealth and fucks over the velocity of money
Anonymous (ID: idV2SRtx) Canada No.519714635 [Report]
>>519711262 (OP)
have you ever gotten into an argument with your parents for mutilating you in a judaic humiliation ritual?
Anonymous (ID: 2g+B0Ga6) Canada No.519714637 [Report]
>>519714413
*investment
No inherent.
Anonymous (ID: p6aJrlP9) United States No.519714646 [Report] >>519716100
>>519711262 (OP)
The main logical argument against billionaires would be that they have WAY more voice in politics than plebs like you have, which is anti-democratic, but very much in line with the founder's desires (they were richfags running shit then). Thanks to lobbying, the uber rich get to set laws that help them and exploit you.

Just look at Elon's ability to change shit buy purchasing Twitter. No poorfag could have ever done that.

We don't have any checks/balances against billionaires being genocidal maniac kikes.
Anonymous (ID: uWWf/r+s) United States No.519714675 [Report]
>>519711262 (OP)
Why would it be jealousy? People can barely imagine being a millionaire let alone being a home owner. At that point, it's about what the deal once was or should be; working is supposed to provide a means to start a family.

>muh burger flippers don't deserve homes
That could be true, but who does? The price range for home ownership keeps going up, you can make $25 an hour and still struggle to save to have enough to be a home owner years down the line.

So calling it jealousy is retarded.
Anonymous (ID: kFAVYOTi) Italy No.519714687 [Report] >>519715107 >>519715337 >>519715480
>>519711262 (OP)
There's no reason for somebody to own more than 10 millions
Anonymous (ID: 3Pw04cfH) United States No.519714830 [Report]
>>519711262 (OP)
Well even though the planet and space theoretically have a glutton of spare resources just waiting to be gathered and used... it still takes time and you have to use the existing resources to gather it.
So every moment in time, there's only so much resource available vs money to pay for it and move it around to do things. There's only so much time in a day for people with money to spend that money on doing things including getting more resources out of the planet.
Billionaires have enough that they can gather whatever resources they want, but their actions carry heavy weight. They're still only so much of a person so that limits how much resource they can allot in the 24hr day cycle to people who utilize that $ to do useful things.
That means billionaires are incentivized to funnel money into more singular focuses or create companies that spend their money for them. Which creates complications on where and when those people spend the resources.
So eventually you end up with a situation where too few people have too many resources sitting around collecting dust, without being recirculated through the economic arteries of the countries they siphoned that money out of.
Resources aren't being gathered fast enough to offset this, so there are large periods of times where there's a backlog of capital not reentering the system.
Eventually the system begins to buckle because at some level it relies on that capital up top coming back down. Too many billionaires means not enough capital is coming back down into the system they got it from.
My politics are spherical btw, I stopped seeing political sports teams ages ago, but still recognize they exist for multiple reasons, so I dunno what the "left" argument is, but I wager they might agree with a couple points I've made, though they'd have different ideas of what to do WITH that info.
Make of it what you will. It's a real problem but other than taking back some of their wealth, there's no real pragmatic solution.
Anonymous (ID: 2g+B0Ga6) Canada No.519714863 [Report]
Milton Friedman will not save you this time OP.
Anonymous (ID: xCn2Fi89) India No.519714968 [Report]
>>519711262 (OP)

Billionares are simply not needed
Anonymous (ID: p6aJrlP9) United States No.519715029 [Report] >>519717914
>>519713103
Elon is full of shit. There are PLENTY of smart white men in the US. But they command large salaries because they are both rare and competent. Meanwhile, India churns out fake competent Indians, who will scam and destroy your company with nepo shit. BUT, while you enshitify your co with Indians, you - the billionaire owner - can squeeze the company for more profit right before it tanks and self-detonates.

Of course in the future there won't be competent white men, but right now there isn't a "labor shortage" that requires India's help. Otherwise these CEO faggots wouldn't have to hide job offers and lie out their ass about the situation.
Anonymous (ID: 6G1P+v0L) Canada No.519715062 [Report] >>519720293
>>519714116
even if you had the same starting line, 90% of people won't do anything anyways becase they are dumb as shit. People aren't equal and some people are going to be smarter than others and will out-think you in ways to get rich and they will rise to the top.
Anonymous (ID: nHBGYWrm) United States No.519715074 [Report] >>519716013 >>519717097
>>519714413
If the kike wants to take his business to Tel Aviv, he may do so, but he can't bring the real estate with him. As long as real estate exists, somebody will own it, somebody will profit it off it.
The difference is will it belong to the middle class like it did in 50s and 60s America when the top marginal tax rate was 90%? Or will it belong to the kikes like in the current neoliberal hellscape.
Name one billionaire who will leave if we tax him, and name one way we'll be better off without him.
Anonymous (ID: uWWf/r+s) United States No.519715107 [Report]
>>519714687
Houses in normal places can cost more than that and giving the estate tax (currently only comes into play if you transfer over $14 million on death) something to handle is good. It's multi billionaires who have the money to funnel millions into politics so that their individual private interests are priotized. Heavily taxing billionaires unless they invest in workers, businesses, and their customers is better for everyone.
Anonymous (ID: xcEJm6Jq) United States No.519715285 [Report] >>519725186
>>519711448
>Free will in big life choices
>Free will to earn lots of money
>"No not that kind of free will!"
kek. They aren't sending their best.
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519715337 [Report] >>519715480 >>519715545 >>519720441
>>519714687
This.

Millionaires are lecturing middle and lower class people to blame billionaires to get the heat off of them.

There's 800 billionaires in America vs 25,000,000 millionaires. Your problems aren't because of billionaires. Your problems are because of millionaires.

Stop blaming billionaires.
Start blaming millionaires.
Anonymous (ID: 6G1P+v0L) Canada No.519715480 [Report] >>519716037
>>519714687
>>519715337
your tens of millions can get wiped out instantly due to a single lawsuit
Anonymous (ID: piL0YqgR) United States No.519715508 [Report] >>519715940
>>519711262 (OP)
It is completely destabilizing. They buy companies and they crash them on top of us, get bailouts while their families share assets and trusts. A certain percentage should have to be reallocated into their company while they are CEO, and accumulate interest into a trust. Its not an accident that mass layoffs preceed record profits.
Anonymous (ID: uWWf/r+s) United States No.519715545 [Report] >>519715901 >>519716037
>>519715337
Millionaires can hardly afford to buy and control government. Billionaires afford it more easily and we've seen them slush fund it. Obama had 1 billionaire on his cabinet, Biden had zero billionaires on his cabinet. Trump has 13 billionaires on his cabinet.
Anonymous (ID: OnxmfIk2) United States No.519715632 [Report]
>>519711262 (OP)
We've shifted very far past "well, they worked hard and they deserve it!" ... We know they fucked kids, we know Israel taped it, cut the shit.
Anonymous (ID: Eo7rTkeg) United States No.519715680 [Report]
>>519711262 (OP)
Well, worthless memeflag user, they're financial singularities that warp their host societies. They're arch-consumers, for whose sake hundreds of employees sink hundreds of thousands of man hours into video game and television projects that no one buys or watches, but which made some private equity firm CEO's socially conscious dick hard. They're arch-constituents, whose army of lobbyists compete with the little people for the attention and care of their elected officials. And win. Liberal democracy can't long survive exposure to billionaires. Billionaires should therefore be taxed into a state of relative harmlessness
Anonymous (ID: t4eAIF/N) United States No.519715709 [Report] >>519718452 >>519722979
>>519711448
Same problem with one really strong guy, but they're what make civilizations work. No one gets the freedom you want for long. So long as there is more than one man, someone will have control over the others. This is not bad, good, or anything in between. Welcome to reality
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519715901 [Report]
>>519715545
And that’s why I like Trump more
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519715940 [Report]
>>519715508
Only middle class people get bailouts
Anonymous (ID: c5Eupl12) United States No.519715998 [Report]
>>519711262 (OP)
It's a jewish tool which they use to control sovereign nations through underhanded means. You didn't think someone got filthy fucking rich by having good moral character did you? Only liars, cheaters, and thieves make it to that level of wealth.
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519716013 [Report]
>>519715074
In 1950s they didn’t have lgbt screwing up the economy
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519716037 [Report] >>519716191 >>519717695
>>519715480
Alex Jones getting sued for billions destroys your argument
>>519715545
>control the government
That's not a billionaire problem. That's a corrupt government problem.
Anonymous (ID: eeXVR7lh) Jordan No.519716094 [Report]
>>519712142
Buying stocks won’t give you control over the combany. You need to be a billionaire to control it.
Also most employees own stocks in their company.
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519716100 [Report]
>>519714646
So why should rich scumbags like you get to virtue signal if you’re not giving up your ill begot gains
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519716162 [Report] >>519716997
>>519714288
Start a business and do that then peoblem solved
Anonymous (ID: c5Eupl12) United States No.519716191 [Report] >>519716280
>>519716037
Is it?
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519716280 [Report] >>519720552
>>519716191
Jews Americans and Rich don't impose laws and imprison you.
Anonymous (ID: w4L5pHsG) United States No.519716294 [Report] >>519721284
>>519711448
Billionaires are the only humans capable of actualizing any sort of free will, YOU are inhibiting them by obstructing their will
Anonymous (ID: 7+/SydSJ) United States No.519716410 [Report] >>519716713 >>519720734 >>519721284
>>519713332
>Taxes are theft though
No, being business and the wealthy needs all the safety nets of government to operate. The roads, the cops, the military and all the advances funded by gov research.
wage stagnation is the real theft as production skyrockets you mid wit. The capital owner is stealing the production output of the workers to line their own pockets.
That why we have seen the largest consolidation of wealth ever with the top few percent. It's absolute BS as now you, me and every other average person has to compete for resources against that consolidated wealth.
It's why Blackrock or dude dropping 800k cash, it doesn't mater. You still don't get the 750k house with your 755k offer and a loan. What should be happening is workers paid more, stock buy backs made illegal again, pull all corp money out of politics and a better tax system.
Anonymous (ID: eeXVR7lh) Jordan No.519716419 [Report]
>>519714413
This doesn’t apply in america. Every country in the world seek access to the american market. If he wants to maintain his wealth he will need to be american or risk a lot of disadvantageous rules and laws. And if he is an american he will have to apy taxes whereever he is.
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519716458 [Report]
You blame 800 billionaires for your problems.
I blame 25 million millionaires.

We are not the same.
Anonymous (ID: 0w8DLn55) Canada No.519716550 [Report] >>519721284
>>519711262 (OP)
Why is it bad that they exist, or than envy?
Anonymous (ID: dfWUaBgD) United States No.519716575 [Report] >>519716640 >>519716745 >>519716789
>>519711262 (OP)
Billionaires can exist, but they should be limited to only being allowed to donate $50 to a particular political campaign per year.
This country is based on each person getting one vote, not each dollar getting one vote.
Anonymous (ID: 6G1P+v0L) Canada No.519716640 [Report] >>519716882
>>519716575
the parties even out in the end anyways so who cares who donates what.
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519716713 [Report] >>519717373 >>519721284
>>519716410
You’re stupid. Nobody is stealing your wage except the government taxing it to give it all to transgender prisoners. In a free market wages and productivity match, it’s only when goverbments use taxes that they can take your money and give it to LGBt
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519716745 [Report] >>519716876
>>519716575
Even better. Make political donations illegal.
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519716749 [Report]
>>519714413
That’s a myth
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519716789 [Report] >>519717016
>>519716575
Terrible idea, if anything your vote should be proportional to your net worth

The idea that a random homeless dude has equal political power to a Billionnaire is unAmerican
Anonymous (ID: 6G1P+v0L) Canada No.519716876 [Report] >>519717063 >>519717147
>>519716745
how do you campaign then?
Anonymous (ID: dfWUaBgD) United States No.519716882 [Report]
>>519716640
I'm not talking about being able to finance a campaign more than another campaign gets financed, I'm talking about the favors that politicians owe to someone that drops $100M in their campaign. That's naked corruption and bribery.
Anonymous (ID: OK0XK6IB) Canada No.519716997 [Report] >>519717270
>>519716162
This is your well thought out response? A fucking boomer meme lol?

The whole premise of my arguments is that if you want to address the billionaire question, then there has to be mechanism and laws that take care of the working people. If more working class people had access to the capital wealth accumulation, the more they will spend on consumer goods, a form of trickle down needs to happen, but not in a neoliberal way, in a more ethical corporate governance way. Or even social.
Anonymous (ID: dfWUaBgD) United States No.519717016 [Report] >>519717302
>>519716789
You're not even in this country, memeflag.
Prove me wrong. Wou won't, you shills ALWAYS refuse to show your real flag. Now why is that?
Anonymous (ID: 7+/SydSJ) United States No.519717051 [Report] >>519717361
>>519714413
>overly taxing the rich
BS... Being the wealthy want to live near and in nice areas. They don't want Midwest nowhere etc or CA and NY would be empty of anyone with money. Also, fuck off and leave then if it bumps up my life.
Ask yourself why everything for middle class and lower was better back in before endless tax cuts for the wealthy. Oh noes taxes, muh tax rate. Help the rich please!..... As every dad could work a meh job but own a house, car, married to stay at home wife and have 2 kids. Now oh the tax rate is so low, so much better for wealthy......... and normal people can't barely afford rent and food while working a full time job.
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519717063 [Report]
>>519716876
Entire process needs a complete revamp from the ground up. In some cases it doesn't even matter how much money you make, the media has already chosen which person they want to elevate or attack.
Anonymous (ID: OK0XK6IB) Canada No.519717097 [Report] >>519717452 >>519717974
>>519715074
Elon Musk and bezos wouldn't gladly incorporate somewhere else if it came to an over taxation issue.
Look how quickly musk moved from California to Texas.
Anonymous (ID: 1FXCZ2t9) Canada No.519717130 [Report] >>519717606 >>519718530
Humans are naturally hierarchical. There is a reason that when your boss gets paid more than you it's OK. The reason is, that your boss is supposed to be responsible for you, they take the brunt of the damage for a bad decision. You let the biggest ape eat first so that when something dangerous comes along, he is well fed and able to defend you. The problem now a days is that these people are making all of this money and feel no responsibility for the well being of those under them. The biggest ape is eating first and abandoning you when the predator comes along. There is momentum in peoples mentality so we haven't chimped out yet, but eventually if this continues it will happen. Do you know what chimps do when one chimp starts hording resources? They tear his dick off and quarter him with their bare hands. What this generally means in human society is eating the rich. This results in everyone being worse off but everyone being more equal. A good society is one that knows how to maintain enough equality so envy doesn't destroy everything. That's not what we have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KSryJXDpZo

vid related. People would rather everyone had nothing than someone getting more unfairly. Unfortunately this is the proper reaction and how the system resets when certain people get too greedy. Remember that word? Greedy. That's what we used to call it. Now we call it seeking profit and shareholder interest and we worship it.
Anonymous (ID: LhXHG69Q) Latvia No.519717145 [Report] >>519717458
>>519711262 (OP)
They got rich through cheating. You know it's true.
Anonymous (ID: dfWUaBgD) United States No.519717147 [Report]
>>519716876
Government funded campaigns. This was worked out long ago, but the US government always refuses to do it because they don't want their massive gravy train cut off.
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519717270 [Report] >>519718756
>>519716997
You argued that incentivizing employees to stay with the company will actually be good for the company long term.

If that was the case busineses would already be doing it or be undercut by the companies that do that. A free market would already start doing that and it does in cases where the buisness leaders believe that’s a good decision
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519717302 [Report] >>519717474
>>519717016
And yet I’m still more American than you, you’re a socialsit
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519717361 [Report]
>>519717051
Because back then they didn’t have lgbt and pride parades fucking everything up
Anonymous (ID: 7+/SydSJ) United States No.519717373 [Report] >>519717617
>>519716713
You clearly don't have any college level understanding of social economics on any level. Just stfu and let the adults talk on these sort of issues.
and miss me with that stupid forced tranny panic bs. They are less than one percent of the pop. I give zero fucks what their personal life choices are in their sexuality or gender. They don't mater on any level. It's a fake social wedge issue for dim wits like you.
Anonymous (ID: vAz7Jkj0) United States No.519717452 [Report]
>>519717097
And? If place does not serve their purpose and demands that they go bankrupt, should they stay? Money and corruption go hand in hand. Accept it, accept when it leaves your side of the ledger. It's just how the game is played.
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519717458 [Report]
>>519717145
They got rich creating jobs you know it’s true
Anonymous (ID: dfWUaBgD) United States No.519717474 [Report]
>>519717302
I notice that you are still posting with a memeflag, but you're right: I'm a National Socialist, and I think people the use memeflags belong in death camps.
Anonymous (ID: xJnmMU2i) United States No.519717484 [Report] >>519717892
>>519711262 (OP)
Our government has legalized bribery so in the end, the only vote that matters is that of the billionaires.

Also, the way our financial system works, the more assets you have the more bank loans you can get. The bank loans create new money that didn't exist before which creates inflation which the rest of society pays and is actually a subtle form of wealth distribution. So the more money you have, the faster you can steal value from everyone else.

I'm not inherently against people having wealth, but in our system, wealth represents the only true vote and the ability to legally rob everyone else.
Anonymous (ID: WZRNLXcE) No.519717494 [Report] >>519717661
>>519711262 (OP)
The fact that billionaires exist isn't in itself bad. Its just that over the past two centuries billionaires have used their money to influence politics in an effort to advance their desires of how the world should be.

And since the 1860s they've all been buying politicians to push anti-white/pro-white genocide policies.

I don't care that they can afford nice things. I just want to live and exist in a country specifically for my people that ever other race on planet earth has and takes for granted.

Evidently that makes me a Nazi.

Who knew?
Anonymous (ID: xCn2Fi89) India No.519717606 [Report] >>519718109 >>519718530 >>519718745
>>519717130

Rightoid logic is truly something to behold. I truly hope that your net worth is north of 8 figures so you don't look like a complete schmuck.
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519717617 [Report]
>>519717373
You suggested banning stock buybacks and unironically said “just pay workers more”

You’re a child with zero understanding of economics. You have never read about it, you never studied, you just know what the media tells you to think.

Wealth inequality is a bullshit issue used to sow divide so stupid people like you vote for left wing parties that fuck everything up.

Billionnaires are less than 0.1% of the population. They having wealth doesn’t affect you in the slightest other than that they provide job opportunities.
Anonymous (ID: vAz7Jkj0) United States No.519717661 [Report] >>519718148
>>519717494
You have europe as a white man. America is for the mutts that have no country.
Anonymous (ID: uWWf/r+s) United States No.519717695 [Report] >>519717877
>>519716037
But billionaires corrupt government and provide the infrastructure to narrow down your choices to two pro-billionaire zionists each time. The fantasy of career politicians having the power to bring billionaires to heel, exploiting the poor defenseless Musks (net worth $500 billion) at the behest of the Soros (net worth $8 billion) and the Pelosis (net worth $114 million) is laughable. If you want to defend against corruption, go ahead and support campaign finance regulation. But then that's anti-free speech right. Can't be anti-free market. Corruption is the free market.

I know whatifalthist is considered a retard even here, but he speaks to this line of thinking where you need to thread the needle between being critical of billionaires and government corruption while being pro-free market by saying we just need Honor. Of all the scoff that at what gets called "utopian", it's the one example that is obviously without self awareness and yet honestly speaks to the kind of thinking this leads to because any other rational path makes you anti-free market marxist cuck faggot.
Anonymous (ID: QmJXmIf5) United States No.519717723 [Report] >>519717892
>>519711262 (OP)
The biggest issue is that there's a feedback loop where billionaires have immense political influence, which they can use to get more money and power, and entrench themselves into even more political influence. If we could make some reforms where money has much less influence in politics, if such a thing is even possible, I think people would care a bit less about people having ridiculous amounts of money.
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519717877 [Report] >>519719007
>>519717695
>But billionaires corrupt government
That's not a billionaire problem. That's a government problem.

When it becomes systemic that you're complaining about, then it's no longer a government problem, it's a societal people problem.
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519717892 [Report] >>519718611 >>519718768
>>519717484
Money in politics does nothing. At the end of the day it’s votes that win elections.

>>519717723
Then why do politicians just fuck them over?
Anonymous (ID: BZ9LGs0S) Canada No.519717894 [Report] >>519718194
>>519711262 (OP)
Billionaires existing is bad because their existence requires immense extraction from the working class. National socialism is literally the only answer to everything. Few understand
Anonymous (ID: WZRNLXcE) No.519717914 [Report]
>>519715029
>There are PLENTY of smart white men in the US.
This is true. It is also true that the education system actively and systematically subverts white men thru demoralization from the second they're ejected from the womb, free college given to non-whites via taxation (white slavery) of whites, and making even getting into college an insurmountable challenge for whites compared to the red carpet that gets rolled out for non-whites in the administrative process.
Anonymous (ID: nHBGYWrm) United States No.519717974 [Report] >>519718591
>>519717097
>Look how quickly musk moved from California to Texas.
What does that mean? Did he move his factories out of California? Did he move his dealerships out of California? Did he stop selling cars to Californians? He did none of those things. He moved his daily operations to Texas for two years before moving back.
If the US decides to tax Elon 90% and he decides to "leave," how does he do it? How does he completely detach from the US economy and maintain his wealth without selling a single product in America?
Anonymous (ID: 1FXCZ2t9) Canada No.519718109 [Report]
>>519717606
> Only capable of reading one sentence before spurging out

Why don't you try again j****eet singh. I understand english might not be your first language but just sound it out.
Anonymous (ID: DMGD3aEp) Brazil No.519718120 [Report]
One "right-wing" argument against billionaires is that human beings are flawed by nature, and a billionaire will have an extremely high capacity to turn their flaws in judgment into actions. It's the same argument that power corrupts, and therefore needs to be limited.
One example is that Jewish billionaire transvestite who spends a small fortune financing all kinds of campaigns to make "transgenderism" socially acceptable, because he has an insane fetish for technologies that make humans transcend nature. This character flaw of a Jewish transvestite would not be a problem of global proportions if he were not a billionaire.
But of course, that doesn't mean billionaires shouldn't exist. You could argue that the free market will improve the lives of the population, even if as a side effect it generates some billionaire Jewish transvestites who want to turn our sons into girls.
Anonymous (ID: WZRNLXcE) No.519718148 [Report]
>>519717661
>You have europe
had*

Past tense. There are no white countries anymore.
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519718194 [Report] >>519718315
>>519717894
They’re the ones who create the jobs for the working class
Anonymous (ID: nHBGYWrm) United States No.519718315 [Report] >>519718638
>>519718194
Walmart cashier?
Anonymous (ID: Ra1hKvvJ) United States No.519718411 [Report]
>>519711262 (OP)
Some billionaires are more equal than others.
Anonymous (ID: N1r2zHaZ) United States No.519718452 [Report] >>519722979 >>519724080 >>519725701
>>519715709
Leftists cannot comprehend that some people just operate better at different rungs on the ladder. Not everyone is leadership material and plenty of great leaders are dogshit at menial tasks.
Anonymous (ID: uWWf/r+s) United States No.519718530 [Report] >>519719632
>>519717130
>>519717606
The post is okay, but it dresses up the slide into neofuedalism as an "envy" issue rather than a function of "I've worked hard for so long so I should be able to afford a house". It's not so much "I wish I had a means to control government and have several vacation homes for my children".
Anonymous (ID: gX8LpAXx) Canada No.519718591 [Report]
>>519717974
If you want to tax billionaires you have to tax their wealth, that would mean, yes taxing their assets they manage, ie factories that make cars.
If it becomes too expensive to build cars in the US due to over taxation, he can easily close up shop and make them somewhere else.
Anonymous (ID: xJnmMU2i) United States No.519718611 [Report] >>519719024
>>519717892
>Money in politics does nothing. At the end of the day it’s votes that win elections.

There was a Princeton study that proved you're wrong. The will of the voters makes no statistical difference. Only the will of the elites budges the needle.

Here's a video explaining the study:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tu32CCA_Ig
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519718638 [Report]
>>519718315
Better than homeless
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519718745 [Report] >>519719178
>>519717606
If you’re rich enough to use an IPhone then you are the rich that leftists rail against.

You are the elite stupid
Anonymous (ID: gX8LpAXx) Canada No.519718756 [Report] >>519719096
>>519717270
But they don't do that enough, that's how you get a concentration of wealth into the hands of one person or a few shareholders.
Again, Toyota has a very good incentive for workers to stay and it creates a more valuable product in the long term. Toyota has built a reputation because their workers make good cars, because they get paid well and have a huge dividend at the end of their careers.
Anonymous (ID: dfWUaBgD) United States No.519718768 [Report] >>519719132
>>519717892
>At the end of the day it’s votes that win elections.
...and campaigns win votes. Ever wonder why the Republican logo and the Democrat logo look so similar? It's because they are on the same jewish team, and you don't get to join that team unless you raise a shitload of money for a campaign, which you now owe favors for.
Anonymous (ID: uWWf/r+s) United States No.519719007 [Report] >>519719250
>>519717877
Billionaires made government. Even Washington was the richest American. Wealth and aristocracy being that infrastructure that supports it controls it too. Massive reform would need to push against this structure.
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519719024 [Report] >>519720164
>>519718611
Then why do politicians do everything for the poor?
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519719096 [Report] >>519719399
>>519718756
>but they don’t do it enough

Then it’s not a good idea. If it was the companies who do it would outcompete those who didn’t
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519719132 [Report] >>519719434
>>519718768
Then why do politicians give everything to the poor and transgender prisoners?
Anonymous (ID: nHBGYWrm) United States No.519719178 [Report] >>519719337
>>519718745
>wanting to tax the rich means you want to take my iphone
No matter how much jewish cock you suck, you will never have anything the jew has.
Anonymous (ID: w3tCdwvV) United States No.519719247 [Report] >>519719349 >>519719381
>>519711262 (OP)
> One monkey gathers all bananas in jungle
Why shouldn’t all the other monkeys kill and eat that monkeys bananas?
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519719250 [Report]
>>519719007
>the founding fathers were billionaires
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519719337 [Report]
>>519719178
You are the rich Jew that you pretend to oppose
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519719349 [Report]
>>519719247
Just print more bananas retard.
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519719381 [Report]
>>519719247
If that one monkey creates millions of jobs that now allow all the monkeys to have unlimited bananas why wouldn’t they like that monkey?
Anonymous (ID: gX8LpAXx) Canada No.519719399 [Report] >>519719704
>>519719096
No it won't. It would just give an incentive to share more wealth with the workers than shareholders.
Anonymous (ID: dfWUaBgD) United States No.519719434 [Report] >>519719744
>>519719132
That's just to jerk off their voter base a little so they don't notice getting fucked in the ass.
Anonymous (ID: 1FXCZ2t9) Canada No.519719632 [Report] >>519721365
>>519718530
Fair enough. I wouldn't argue that the envy is unjustified, in fact I would argue it is justified. I do think fundamentally it is envy that then breeds resentment though. Perhaps envy has a certain milieu today that makes it seem vain or covetous; wanting something you don't deserve. That's not what I am speaking about. What I am saying is if every one lived in a grass hut and you were working as hard as you were I don't think you would feel so negatively. At that point, everyone would just be doing the work they needed to so everyone could survive. The problem is the huge inequality. The not being compensated in proportion to your productivity. You aren't able to eat the fruits of your labor. I do think the key emotion there is envy. I think we just think envy is always a negative thing and it's really not. There is a reason people feel envious and it's precisely to prevent others in the community from greedily hoarding resources.
Anonymous (ID: JOJRRXHp) Germany No.519719681 [Report]
>>519711262 (OP)
The concept of ownership is an illusion - it's really an (also illusory) structure of various levels of continued control, manifesting in repeated instances of immediate control. E.g. if you "own" a billion dollars but the bank freezes your account you have nothing. If you "own" a gold mine on paper in southeast asia but you can't control who's operating your mine, taking your gold and where it gets shipped and who pockets the profits then you don't own shit.
Billionaires can't possibly by any means personally control and monitor all their assets, the companies they "own" or "own" stocks of, their real estate, their fancy cars etc; they rely on other people to monitor and control those things on their behalf and those typically have further layers of people beneath them.
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519719704 [Report]
>>519719399
Then it doesn’t seem like a good idea
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519719744 [Report]
>>519719434
So why do they fuck over billionnaires condtbstly and give LGBt everything? Why is lgbt getting all the resources?
Anonymous (ID: 6G1P+v0L) Canada No.519719755 [Report]
>People taller than 6 feet shouldn't exist so we should make them reduce their height through surgical means
Anonymous (ID: VG5i1v11) United Kingdom No.519719915 [Report] >>519720136
>>519711262 (OP)
It creates a drastic decrease in the lifestyles of everyone else. Think of it like this.
>you live in a community with 99 people
>each of you makes $30k a year
>the known upper limit of wealth means costs will never go over a certain amount
>prices are based around what you can afford
>a new guy moves in and has $3mil
>all costs are now based on the known fact that one person has a lot of money to extract
>want the best house we just built? well, that's $500k please!
>only the millionaire can afford it
>I just spent all day making this table, used to sell it for $200... now I'll sell it for $2,000 because the rich guy can afford it
>now maybe 70 of you are still on $30k but can't afford what you used to, while 29 of you have managed to corner the markets to cater to the rich
Keep on the scenario until it's a billionaire, and you'll realise why it costs so much now for an average standard of living, and it will keep increasing as billionaires increase in wealth.
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519720136 [Report] >>519720357
>>519719915
Except you need bilkionaires to create jobs. If you didn’t have the Billionnaire you wouldn’t have jobs which would be much lower standard of living
Anonymous (ID: xJnmMU2i) United States No.519720164 [Report] >>519720232 >>519720371
>>519719024
Go watch the video. If you didn't watch the video, watch it again and then ask yourself what the numbers mean.
Anonymous (ID: 7yt6KYYh) Germany No.519720182 [Report] >>519720406
>>519711262 (OP)
trust busting is an american tradition
Anonymous (ID: xJnmMU2i) United States No.519720232 [Report]
>>519720164
Didn't -> did
Anonymous (ID: BMAQIHgc) Brazil No.519720293 [Report]
>>519715062
That is 100% fine by me, it's our own version of natural selection and it's expected. The issue with the current system is that it makes it so a huge number of worthless retards who should be at the bottom instead take up permanent spots at the top due to being born in family x instead of family y. Ask people from every sector of every industry and you'll see the common element of nepo hires is that they are incompetent and often lazy. Look up howany successful businesses went under because the owners retarded son(s) took over and fucked it up.
Anonymous (ID: 2tV1UO6+) France No.519720349 [Report] >>519720495
>>519711262 (OP)
1 - they are jews

2 - they are rich because of taking the added value of the worker. therefore the rich exploited their people
Anonymous (ID: VG5i1v11) United Kingdom No.519720357 [Report] >>519720495
>>519720136
Except we had jobs for thousands of years before billionaires existed.
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519720371 [Report] >>519720572
>>519720164
Will watch it later but I’m just seeing the rich get fucked and the poor get all the free shit
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519720406 [Report]
>>519720182
It’s anti-American in fact it’s socialist
Anonymous (ID: LMschlzl) Canada No.519720441 [Report] >>519720544
>>519715337
i own a two bedroom condo in vancouver
how am i the problem?
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519720495 [Report] >>519720710
>>519720349
They create jobs and also workers are exploiting the business since they are being paid more than they would earn if they didn’t work there

>>519720357
We had Billionnaire equivalents in the past. Billionnaires are more common because of our unit of measurement being inflated but back in the day we had Lords and landowners and kings and nobles
Anonymous (ID: M7yQSE/S) No.519720503 [Report]
>>519711262 (OP)
Imagine if those billions were physical gold, people would be stealing and redistributing it in a few hours
Capitalism is a economic system for toddles meant to only be used for 5 years and move on to something more fair
Anonymous (ID: xte8Na8e) United Kingdom No.519720524 [Report] >>519720583
>>519711262 (OP)
massively inefficient for a functioning economy, just like the homeless.

im not even left and i know this shit
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519720544 [Report] >>519721394
>>519720441
You’re the one keeping real estate high you are the epitome of the problem
Anonymous (ID: c5Eupl12) United States No.519720552 [Report] >>519722488
>>519716280
Nigger just shut the fuck up next time.
Anonymous (ID: xJnmMU2i) United States No.519720572 [Report]
>>519720371
Try reading the chart then.
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519720583 [Report] >>519720883
>>519720524
They’re literally the most efficient that’s why they’re billionnaires.

You don’t know shit you’re envious
Anonymous (ID: VG5i1v11) United Kingdom No.519720710 [Report] >>519720748 >>519720815 >>519720844
>>519720495
>We had Billionnaire equivalents in the past. Billionnaires are more common because of our unit of measurement being inflated but back in the day we had Lords and landowners and kings and nobles
We didn't. The division between the rich and poor is the largest its ever been. Even in the late 1800s when a person could own a whole county, they only made the equivalent of maybe a couple of million dollars a year. At no point did an individual have more money than entire countries.
Anonymous (ID: uvabJ3as) United States No.519720734 [Report]
>>519713966
Owning an eBay storefront isn't a job champ, cope

>>519716410
>stealing wages
Oh, so you're just a communist
>do job
>get paid
>somehow this is stealing
Lmao, you're the midwit, commie scum.
Anonymous (ID: VG5i1v11) United Kingdom No.519720748 [Report]
>>519720710
*1700s
Anonymous (ID: M7yQSE/S) No.519720809 [Report]
>>519711262 (OP)
Also the native americans were "trillionaires" as they "owned" all land in the north americas, but then the white european came and distributed it for themselves as they would actually live and work the land rather than just own it, same should be done to billionaires today—as they are literally anti-USA
Anonymous (ID: nVZsw/8Q) No.519720815 [Report] >>519720989 >>519721152 >>519725935
>>519720710
Good, they have more money now to create higher paying jobs
Anonymous (ID: uvabJ3as) United States No.519720844 [Report] >>519720989
>>519720710
Bro your country's leader literally owned half of the world, shut the fuck up
Anonymous (ID: xte8Na8e) United Kingdom No.519720883 [Report] >>519720939 >>519721231
>>519720583
the whole economy is based on the circulation of cash, they don't have the means/want to spend it
Anonymous (ID: WZRNLXcE) No.519720938 [Report] >>519721261
>>519711262 (OP)
Would it be unreasonable to think that cities in the West have become plantations and that billionaires are the plantation owners?

That would imply that non-billionares/millionares are slaves right?

This question isnt specifically just for you, its for anyone really.
Anonymous (ID: xte8Na8e) United Kingdom No.519720939 [Report]
>>519720883
its not about how they got there is about the long term outcomes, retard
Anonymous (ID: VG5i1v11) United Kingdom No.519720989 [Report] >>519721102 >>519721322
>>519720815
They're not creating higher paying jobs, though.

>>519720844
Do you not understand the difference between ownership and revenue?
Anonymous (ID: QOE8oI9X) United States No.519721102 [Report] >>519721302
>>519720989
Yeah I'm pretty sure the British monarchy was getting a steady income from their colonies, dipshit
Anonymous !niqjediPCA (ID: 3JHPg5hs) United States No.519721106 [Report] >>519721322
>>519711262 (OP)
they buy politicians for their own benefit, you imbecile.
Anonymous (ID: jaCUcZel) United States No.519721152 [Report] >>519721322
>>519720815
This is what Keynesians actually believe.
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519721231 [Report] >>519721526
>>519720883
You’re incredibly stupid and economically illiterate.

Them not blowing their money on dumb is why they’re good for the economy a poor person will waste it
Anonymous (ID: UPStJsIS) United States No.519721260 [Report]
This thread is a perfect example of why poor people stay poor, they waste all their time inventing reasons to hate people richer than themselves.

You can't hate the poor enough, they are literally subhumans.
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519721261 [Report]
>>519720938
I have more freedom than billionnaires and I live in a city
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519721284 [Report] >>519721447
>>519711510
>>519716294
>>519716410
>>519716550
>>519716713

6 fat bitches sit in an office and parasite 40% of the companies profit the other 40% goes to the CEO. 20% is divided amongst the men killing themselves to generate the money and company overhead.

Labor theory of value is real. Capitalism is a failing experiment.
Anonymous (ID: VG5i1v11) United Kingdom No.519721302 [Report] >>519721491
>>519721102
Yeah they were, but less than current billionaires do, you absolute spastic.
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519721322 [Report] >>519721359 >>519721436 >>519721456 >>519722040 >>519722869
>>519720989
Maybe if we didn’t tax them to death they would

>>519721106
You would too stupid

>>519721152
Your Marxist ideas have been debunked communism doesn’t work
Anonymous (ID: VG5i1v11) United Kingdom No.519721359 [Report] >>519721407 >>519721461 >>519721666
>>519721322
How is it taxing them to death if they're still BILLIONAIRES?
Anonymous (ID: uWWf/r+s) United States No.519721365 [Report] >>519724180
>>519719632
>The not being compensated in proportion to your productivity. You aren't able to eat the fruits of your labor. I do think the key emotion there is envy.
It's not envy. What you're describing first is more about "fairness" than envy. You were told to work hard for this thing, but this thing is systematically kept from you by the people telling you to work hard for that one thing doesn't invoke feelings of envy. Envy is a separate topic entirely. Maybe your vocabulary is limited, but reducing it to envy makes the issue petty when we're talking about being able to afford healthcare for your children. Envy speaks to things beyond basic needs and basic expectations, like working hard to afford to house and support a family isn't an envy thing. If you envy it, you're not coveting what billionaires have, you're realizing your parents worked less and got more. You're not envious of them, you're seeing that the deal is getting worse.
Anonymous (ID: LMschlzl) Canada No.519721394 [Report] >>519721499
>>519720544
damn i guess i should go live in a box under the highway then
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519721407 [Report] >>519721493 >>519721510
>>519721359
Not for long all the money is going to LGBt
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519721436 [Report] >>519721560
>>519721322
Capitalism doesn’t work. America has only existed for 300 years and the current market has existed for less than 100. It’s already dying america won’t last very much longer.
Anonymous (ID: 6Rl9Nn/J) United States No.519721447 [Report] >>519721512
>>519721284
>t. Unemployed neet
Anonymous (ID: uWWf/r+s) United States No.519721456 [Report] >>519721641
>>519721322
They're being taxed less and less. They're cutting jobs. They're telling us to work for free.
Anonymous (ID: vAz7Jkj0) United States No.519721461 [Report] >>519721689
>>519721359
That's a good point
Anonymous (ID: 6Rl9Nn/J) United States No.519721491 [Report] >>519721556
>>519721302
>owned half the world and controlled 50% of global trade
>they didn't make as much
Okay retard
Anonymous (ID: VG5i1v11) United Kingdom No.519721493 [Report]
>>519721407
Oh okay, you're a bad faith troll, got it.
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519721499 [Report] >>519721691
>>519721394
Nobody ever said that they’re just saying don’t hoard real estate when other people are suffering
Anonymous (ID: uWWf/r+s) United States No.519721510 [Report]
>>519721407
Why is Trump sending all money to the LGBT? Source?
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519721512 [Report] >>519721976
>>519721447
No I’m one of the guys getting the crumbs from the useless eaters who sit in the office eating all day (they are almost always obese)
Anonymous (ID: xte8Na8e) United Kingdom No.519721526 [Report] >>519722213
>>519721231
Hello? Retard? You're the one economically illiterate, if you don't spend shit you don't contribute to GDP - you don't contribute to anything, you just stop other from spending shit, while we may all agree that people spend shit on retarded stuff it means that people can have jobs?

how can you be so confidently wrong?
Anonymous (ID: VG5i1v11) United Kingdom No.519721556 [Report] >>519721684 >>519722084
>>519721491
They didn't, you ignorant spastic. Get a fucking clue.
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519721560 [Report] >>519721604
>>519721436
Socialism doesn’t work we’re 38 trillion in debt because we give everything to Africans and Trans
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519721604 [Report] >>519721761
>>519721560
National socialism does work that’s why they destroyed it in 1945 because they were fearful of its success
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519721641 [Report]
>>519721456
Then you are getting less productive
Anonymous (ID: K+SoYKT9) United States No.519721645 [Report] >>519721846
>>519711262 (OP)
>why shouldn't he have a larger yacht, all the billionaire is doing is driving down wages, causing thousands of people to go on welfare, and causing the rise of 3rd world nations who hate you...
bigthink.jpg
Anonymous (ID: Eo7rTkeg) United States No.519721666 [Report] >>519721899 >>519721935
>>519721359
Billionaires would rather die than suffer the punishing lack of freedom that comes of just being a millionaire 300 times over. And billionaires would almost certainly rather kill anyone who threatens to successfully tax them
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519721684 [Report]
>>519721556
2/10 ragebait
Anonymous (ID: VG5i1v11) United Kingdom No.519721689 [Report]
>>519721461
And to further to the point, if you taxed someone making $10 billion a year 99%, they'd still have $100 million a year. Every year. More than anyone would ever need, and yet they complain they're getting taxed too much.
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519721691 [Report]
>>519721499
I think property ownership should be capped or taxes increase with ever property you own
Anonymous (ID: ENi+e6LM) No.519721696 [Report] >>519721789 >>519721795 >>519721846
>>519711262 (OP)
Why not trillionares while we lower the minimum wage to $1 an hour?
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519721761 [Report] >>519721866
>>519721604
If it works why is USA economy falling apart?
Anonymous (ID: gLvLYLjr) No.519721783 [Report] >>519721902
>>519711262 (OP)
There are subversive billionaires and rich people in general who mistreat their employees and tries to lobby the govt against the will of the people. Something should be done about that for sure, but going after rich people as an ideology just for the sake of it doesn't lead anywhere good. It just stifles growth, leads to job losses and less successful businesses. Humanity is fuelled by greed and jealousy of people always wanting more and taking what others have earned. That's why it's so easy to point fingers at the rich. Or white straight men.
Anonymous (ID: xte8Na8e) United Kingdom No.519721789 [Report]
>>519721696
ewww a democrat. why do you even bother?
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519721795 [Report]
>>519721696
Only would work with a completely authoritarian surveillance stage with a dumbed down slave population- oh wait! That’s happening now
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519721846 [Report] >>519721921 >>519722052 >>519722147 >>519722247
>>519721645
He created jobs which saved your dumbass

>>519721696
Minimum wage should be $0
Anonymous (ID: U6GbxUpc) United States No.519721851 [Report]
>>519711262 (OP)
>What is the lefts argument against billionnaires?
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519721866 [Report] >>519721955
>>519721761
Because we aren’t national socialists, we are a low trust multicultural society centered around Jews and their golems
Anonymous (ID: VG5i1v11) United Kingdom No.519721899 [Report]
>>519721666
Precisely. And part of the point of being a billionaire for them is making sure that others have less. It's not good enough to live comfortably and in luxury, they need to know it's more than anyone else. It's part of why everything is made to look so shit now, they've intentionally pushed aesthetics behind huge paywalls, so that only they get to enjoy it.
Anonymous (ID: OnxmfIk2) United States No.519721902 [Report] >>519722283
>>519721783
Shuddup, kike.
Anonymous (ID: U6GbxUpc) United States No.519721921 [Report]
>>519721846
>Minimum wage should be $0
Your heart rate should be zero,
Anonymous (ID: uWWf/r+s) United States No.519721935 [Report]
>>519721666
There is something psychological that happens when someone becomes a billionaire or even just rich; your brain goes into defense mode, you do everything you can to defend yourself from the notion that you got lucky and aren't really worthy of what you have. It's not out of hate or disdain, it's just an extension of natural self preservation. It's interesting.

https://youtu.be/IP2EKTCngiM
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519721955 [Report] >>519722187
>>519721866
We seem pretty socialist to me
Anonymous (ID: yIrSstpg) United States No.519721976 [Report] >>519722230
>>519721512
So you're a janitor?
Anonymous !niqjediPCA (ID: 3JHPg5hs) United States No.519722040 [Report]
>>519721322
>You would too stupid

I don't need to buy them, Im a meme master.

and my arguments are flawless.
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519722052 [Report]
>>519721846
Creating jobs also raises the cost of living and creates a demand for immigration (cheap labor) which also raises the cost of living, anytime an Amazon moves to a city gentrification follows with multi family living being built everywhere. It’s the same as communism just worse because instead of having what you need you work a shit ton and still can’t afford rent. Not myself just the common city folk
Anonymous (ID: yIrSstpg) United States No.519722084 [Report] >>519722449
>>519721556
In the 1930s the British empire was worth 46 trillion £, so shut the fuck up with your fake bullshit
Anonymous (ID: yIrSstpg) United States No.519722147 [Report]
>>519721846
Based
Fuck wagies
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519722187 [Report] >>519722408
>>519721955
There’s a difference between socialism and national socialism. You are correct that america has socialist elements but we are far from national socialists. We import the third world to provide cheap labor for billionaires while also lowering living standards for our own people. It’s far worse than socialism.
Anonymous (ID: xte8Na8e) United Kingdom No.519722213 [Report] >>519722299 >>519722456
>>519721526
OPs a retard, and got owned

/bread
Anonymous (ID: 7vXdZOCF) United States No.519722214 [Report]
>>519711262 (OP)
Billionaires = JEWS
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519722230 [Report] >>519722348
>>519721976
Home restoration technician
Anonymous (ID: K+SoYKT9) United States No.519722247 [Report] >>519722492
>>519721846
>no no, really REALLY! He deserves that fucking yacht! He gave you a job! I mean, yes, he's lobbying against a fair wage. Yes, he's abusing the H1b system. Yes, he's overworking his salaried employees so far beyond 40 hours a week it's a running joke in the company. Yes, he's gonna take all the business to China. But... you got a job dontcha!? Be thankful, slave!
What is your preferred flavor of shoe polish? You a Kiwi brown or a Kiwi neutral kinda guy?
Anonymous (ID: gLvLYLjr) No.519722283 [Report]
>>519721902
You're either an antiwhite communist or someone who lacks reading comprehension.
Anonymous (ID: fc8fp0rI) United States No.519722299 [Report] >>519722388 >>519722409
>>519722213
>he says, still thinking an empire that once held half the world made less than a billionaire
Lmao, lol
Anonymous (ID: fc8fp0rI) United States No.519722348 [Report]
>>519722230
So, a janitor? Cool, go scrub my shitter champ
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519722388 [Report] >>519722731
>>519722299
The difference is the money they held wasn’t fiat currency. Billionaires are rich off of their Jewish money printer fiends who hold the keys to the money printer it prints endlessly with no real value backing it
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519722408 [Report] >>519722782
>>519722187
I’m not the biggest fan of immigrants but peoblem is you need them to grow the efonomy and GDP otherwise you get defaults debts expire and wages drop
Anonymous (ID: xte8Na8e) United Kingdom No.519722409 [Report]
>>519722299
you're getting mixed up with the other brit on the thread
Anonymous (ID: VG5i1v11) United Kingdom No.519722449 [Report] >>519722643
>>519722084
>the British empire had 25% of the world's wealth in 1870
>billionaires have 50% of the world's wealth right now
See how 25% is less than 50%? Probably not, you seem genuinely retarded.
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519722456 [Report] >>519723012
>>519722213
You didn’t get owned you’re fucking retarded and economically illiterate.

You won’t become rich blowing your money on dumb shit
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519722488 [Report]
>>519720552
Not an argument.
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519722492 [Report] >>519722554 >>519722571 >>519722774
>>519722247
Keep licking the boots of overpaid employees
Anonymous (ID: FQzjNBsf) United States No.519722551 [Report]
>>519711262 (OP)
>argument
I'm not here to ruin your cuckold fantasy
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519722554 [Report] >>519722738
>>519722492
Anon why do you come to pol everyday to be a contrarian I see you here every time I lurk
Anonymous (ID: s3X7AjiT) United States No.519722561 [Report]
>>519711262 (OP)
Because they didn’t get to be billionaires without fucking other people.
Anonymous (ID: K+SoYKT9) United States No.519722571 [Report]
>>519722492
Kiwi neutral then. :3 Thanks for your participation in my survey.
Anonymous (ID: 0rnKZNHD) United States No.519722643 [Report] >>519723001
>>519722449
>50%
>my made up number means I'm correct
Okay retard
Anonymous (ID: B+O78S6a) United States No.519722731 [Report]
>>519722388
>it's the jews fault I'm poor
>can't be my own decisions or talents
Everytime
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519722738 [Report] >>519722853 >>519723134
>>519722554
You openly supported Nazism your are ragebaiting
Anonymous (ID: B+O78S6a) United States No.519722774 [Report] >>519722963
>>519722492
They love simping for peasants because nobody loves peasants more than peasants.
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519722782 [Report] >>519723013
>>519722408
>we need to dilute our blood and lower the quality of our lives and people to make the gdp go up

This is why capitalists are referred to as disloyal dogs. Their only allegiance is to themselves and their profit margin. Nationals socialism was about loyalty to one’s people, ones dna. What you argue for is the same globalist kike agenda that’s going to turn the world into big eating browns void of life.
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519722853 [Report] >>519722898
>>519722738
>openly support Nazism

Anon why are you trolling every single day. Who is paying you?
Anonymous (ID: jaCUcZel) United States No.519722869 [Report] >>519722939
>>519721322
>Your Marxist ideas have been debunked communism doesn’t work
I'm not a Marxist, but honestly Marxists are better than you Keynesians, at least the Marxists have the decency to just starve to death.
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519722898 [Report] >>519723103
>>519722853
You said “National Socialism”.

You are baiting
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519722939 [Report] >>519723107 >>519723471 >>519723496
>>519722869
I’m an Austrian School of Economics supporter.

You are a Marxist and we debunked you
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519722963 [Report] >>519723048 >>519723066
>>519722774
Without peasants the billionaires couldn’t even change their own tire. They are the most useless human beings in existence. They can’t even think they pay people to think for them. And wealthy always come from other wealthy, notice rich people aren’t capable of anything physically, not even changing oil.
Anonymous (ID: ao7ZN9gJ) Croatia No.519722979 [Report]
>>519711448
This with bilonares the lifestyle you can afford becomea the lifestyle of dalit indian.

Also I know 0 bilionares that made their money without goverment help or some other type of corruption or nepotism.

>>519715709
>Same problem with one really strong guy, but they're what make civilizations work. No one gets the freedom you want for long. So long as there is more than one man, someone will have control over the others. This is not bad, good, or anything in between. Welcome to reality

Its a retarded mindset. One strong guy is not stronger than 10 poeple. Nature is democratic and egalitarian. Hur dur authority pesant slaves should be genocided.
>>519718452
>Leftists cannot comprehend that some people just operate better at different rungs on the ladder. Not everyone is leadership material and plenty of great leaders are dogshit at menial tasks.
Bulshit 90% of history poeple were self sufficent. No one is born to be a slave or born to be a leader. Your ansestors would be ashamed of you.
Anonymous (ID: VG5i1v11) United Kingdom No.519723001 [Report] >>519723135
>>519722643
Okay then, what's the "real" numbers? Go ahead, go find them.
Anonymous (ID: c9L7W2Oe) United States No.519723004 [Report]
>>519711262 (OP)
There is no left. Everything left is jews passing down the marching orders to their constituents, just like the right.

So, "why have jews promoted billionaires as the villian", should be your question.
Anonymous (ID: xte8Na8e) United Kingdom No.519723012 [Report] >>519723384
>>519722456
who said i would dogass? also statistically im more rich than you are kek
Anonymous (ID: B+O78S6a) United States No.519723013 [Report] >>519723282
>>519722782
National socialists are retards though, their only country got its shit kicked in because they wasted all their money feeding their parasites
Anonymous (ID: B+O78S6a) United States No.519723048 [Report]
>>519722963
Lmao peasant mad
Anonymous (ID: DHmlGBLM) United States No.519723053 [Report] >>519723419
Not a single billionaire reached that level of wealth through hard work alone. At every stage they were propped up, usually with government subsidies and cushy deals to give them an edge over their competition. I know this is a bait thread but you're still retarded.
Anonymous (ID: FQzjNBsf) United States No.519723066 [Report]
>>519722963
Only way to demonstrate this is a general strike. Pretty tough to do without unions though desu
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519723103 [Report]
>>519722898
Yes national socialism is a very solid economic system in which the quality of life of the native people is held above all. Under hitler homes we built in mass to provide German families with cheap affordable living to raise German children to progress the productive future of their culture,

You are a globalist who supports degenerating humanity for a printed fiat currency. If that angers you it’s most likely because it’s true
Anonymous (ID: 7vXdZOCF) United States No.519723107 [Report]
>>519722939
wrong
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519723134 [Report]
>>519722738
>complaining about Nazis
Okay zionist.
Anonymous (ID: B+O78S6a) United States No.519723135 [Report] >>519723719
>>519723001
I don't care about global wealth, I'm not some unemployed neet looking to justify my jealousy at more successful people.
Get a job Hugh
Anonymous (ID: 7/Oc7Tjf) Sweden No.519723153 [Report] >>519723241
Billionaires are the ones pushing for all countries to become nothing more than economic zones, they are all enemies of nations and peoples.
Anonymous (ID: TQDJbIOu) United States No.519723222 [Report] >>519723992
>>519711262 (OP)
This argument is a red herring.

It’s fine for rich people to exist. But they should only get 1 vote, same as every other citizen.

As it stands, money gives you more political power in the US than even being a citizen, due to lobbying and things like citizens united. Having a political system that allows the rich to influence elections is setting the country up for *external influence* of domestic affairs. This is why the US engages in military ventures that put young American lives at risk for the interests of Israel. It’s also why we import third-world slaves.

This is not good if your goal is a long-lasting, healthy, and sovereign nation with leadership that acts in the interest of the people. Thus anyone who’s motto is “blood and soil” will be opposed to things like lobbying and citizens united, and wish to put restrictions on the influence of money in politics.
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519723241 [Report] >>519723341 >>519723396 >>519723646
>>519723153
Then the problem is government, not billionaires.
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519723282 [Report] >>519723499
>>519723013
No, the globalist kikes created a false flag attack to drag America into the war and then also forced the British into the war against Germany. The Slavic subhumans were supplied through the lend lease to help destroy Germany.

Globalist brown kikes worship GDP when the only thing of real value is DNA
Anonymous (ID: FQzjNBsf) United States No.519723341 [Report] >>519723809
>>519723241
Why not both?
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519723384 [Report]
>>519723012
You think spending money is good, you aren’t rich because no one that stupid would get rich
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519723396 [Report] >>519723809
>>519723241
The government is influenced by the billionaires retard why do you think trump is buddies with ever billionaire megalomaniac psychopath including your favorite sweaty anti christ literall FAGGOT petter thiel
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519723419 [Report] >>519723468 >>519723944
>>519723053
> Not a single billionaire reached that level of wealth through hard work alone. At every stage they were propped up, usually with government subsidies

1/10 ragebait
Anonymous (ID: YemEdMfL) United States No.519723420 [Report] >>519723465
>>519711262 (OP)
Billionaires tend to gain too much political power and end up buying governments. If you can't see why that's a bad thing you're either a jew or a retard.
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519723465 [Report] >>519724115
>>519723420
If they didn’t do that then voters would be the ones controlling everything stupid
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519723468 [Report]
>>519723419
It makes you angry because it’s true and you can’t disprove it,
Anonymous (ID: jaCUcZel) United States No.519723471 [Report] >>519723556 >>519723889
>>519722939
>I’m an Austrian School of Economics supporter.
Liar. If you were you'd know that you don't need billionares to create jobs and all our current billionares are the result of inflationary fiat currency and government enforced monopolies. You also are repeating the Keynesian notion that jobs are all that matter, and ignoring the supply side of economics. You are a Keynesian, not an Austrian.
Anonymous (ID: ao7ZN9gJ) Croatia No.519723496 [Report] >>519723923
>>519722939
You are glownigger kenseyan. You bilionare buddies didnt get rich with gold backed currencies. They or their investors recived that money trough money printing.
Anonymous (ID: B+O78S6a) United States No.519723499 [Report] >>519723599
>>519723282
>it's the jews fault my economic system collapsed
>it's the jews fault Communism failed too
Okay retard, I'm so glad Dresen burned, I just wish those A bombs could've given Berlin a nice make over.
Anonymous (ID: B+O78S6a) United States No.519723556 [Report] >>519723757 >>519724550
>>519723471
>Marxist making up fake words again
Classic
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519723599 [Report] >>519724666
>>519723499
Yes dday was the original antifa riot, the had a blm protest on the beaches of Normandy. I know you’re a nigger loving globalist. You don’t have to convince me anon.
Anonymous (ID: TQDJbIOu) United States No.519723646 [Report] >>519723754 >>519723809
>>519723241
I used to have your mindset as well. But we need to be pragmatic.

Realistically, no matter what measures and regulations are put in place within the government, if a small percentage of the population owns a very large percentage of the wealth then they will find ways to manipulate the political system to gain more influence. Once they find a way to do this, they will then effectively begin commandeering the nation to serve their purposes, and the nation will have soon lost its sovereignty.

Rich people are fine. But but having extreme wealth inequality eventually leads to nations losing their own sovereignty and the entire world becoming a mere economic zone full of slaves.

By all means we should craft our constitutions and spill the blood necessary to prevent the rich from controlling the sovereignty of nations. But there is a point beyond which nothing can be done: the wealth must be redistributed to some degree.

And what’s the big deal? It’s not like Elon musk or Bezos being worth, say, 10 billion as opposed to 200b will materially impact them. The only thing it will do is decrease their outsized political power. Beyond a certain amount, wealth only gets you political power. Life comforts will be the same.
Anonymous (ID: bFhdtKnf) United States No.519723671 [Report]
>>519711262 (OP)
Billionares arent people, they are less than subhuman trash that are inherently corrupt, even multi millionares are too, however to get to the point of being worth billions you must disregard all sense of morals in order to get to that point, willingly. Any average person would be satisfied by millions, but instead you want to shred any level of dignity you have left to have the biggest stack and for what? You already won the game, there is nothing left to explore or feel, so you turn to corruption and destroying livelihoods in exchange of feeling something in your cold dead heart. God wont save you
Anonymous (ID: VG5i1v11) United Kingdom No.519723719 [Report] >>519724723
>>519723135
Ohhhh you're a coward retard changing your IP constantly and pretending you're someone else to avoid accountability for the stupid things you post. Got it. Thanks for acknowledging I was right.
Anonymous (ID: FQzjNBsf) United States No.519723754 [Report]
>>519723646
Musk is worth like a trillion bezos probably pretty close behind. Those are pre covid numbers
Anonymous (ID: pmEF4cRI) United States No.519723755 [Report]
>>519711262 (OP)
Nobody needs that much money. But the government does for some reason.
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519723757 [Report] >>519724776
>>519723556
My question is this: if billionaires just control the government anyways, why don’t we just go full fascist and let the government take over all means of production. I’d rather have a dictator with complete authority and control then a bunch of billionaire homosexual drug addicts shoving money into a candidates pockets to fulfill their gay little fantasies about world domination.
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519723809 [Report] >>519723880 >>519723995 >>519724005 >>519724736
>>519723341
Billionaires dont pass laws.
>>519723396
>the government is influenced
You mean corrupt. Again, the problem is government, not billionaires.
>>519723646
The reality is that incomes down to people. If the government is so systematically corrupt, then it's now the fault of the society people for not taking action.
Anonymous (ID: FQzjNBsf) United States No.519723880 [Report] >>519723933
>>519723809
No they just lobby for laws to get passed that citizens can't vote on. Next.
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519723889 [Report] >>519724550
>>519723471
Yeah you’re a Marxist.

Jensen Huang isn’t a Billionnaire exclusively due to fiat he would yield as much wealth if not more in a free market system.

I usually focus on supply side arguments but pol is a bit lower level so I don’t want people to get frustrated

You’re a Marxist
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519723923 [Report]
>>519723496
Jensen Huang made money via creating value
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519723933 [Report] >>519723988
>>519723880
>repeats the government is corrupt line
Next.
Anonymous (ID: DHmlGBLM) United States No.519723944 [Report] >>519724034 >>519724037 >>519724063
>>519723419
Elon musk has received tens of billions in subsidies, tax credits, sweetheart contracts, and low interest government loans despite being a drug addicted retard. Larry Ellison of Oracle has received billions in direct taxpayer funded subsidies and has negotiated over 100billion dollars in future US contracts with an administration that he donated heavily to, a clear conflict of interest. Amazon received tax breaks, credits, and subsidies from local and state governments to build warehouses without dealing with the fees that you or I would have to pay if we tried to start our own business. I know you're either
A) A butt-ugly disgusting Sanjeep hiding your real flag and getting paid 20 rupees a day to suck off billionaires from your rancid mudhut.
or B) A retarded contrarian troll
But in case anyone with a functioning brain is reading this thread just remember that even if you like the free market, billionaires are not operating in a free market. The scales are being tipped in their favor by a government that seeks to control its populace via an unholy alliance between capital and politics. You pay taxes, they don't. You are stifled when starting your business, they are funneled tax dollars hand over fist for doing nothing. You are subject to laws, they are not.
Anonymous (ID: FQzjNBsf) United States No.519723988 [Report] >>519724037
>>519723933
>can't refute it
Next.
Anonymous (ID: 8DDDc5Lb) India No.519723992 [Report] >>519724954
>>519723222

This fallacious and blatantly incorrect logic has been repeated all throughout this shit eater of a thread.

>The rich are not the problem but oh noooo they shouldn't be able to influence politics.
Nigga. The only purpose of the state under any kind of capitalism is to preserve the wealth of power of the rich. It's pretty much set up that way
Anonymous (ID: bFhdtKnf) United States No.519723995 [Report] >>519724099
>>519723809
>billionares dont pass laws
Oh my sweet summer child do you know a magical thing called Lobbying?
>buhbuhbuh dey dont cast le votes
But they fund it you fuckin monkey
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519724005 [Report] >>519724099
>>519723809
Billionaires are privatized individuals Anon. They are more prone to being corrupt then a democratically elected government. It’s more likely that Peter thiel is a psychotic coke snorting ass fister (yes he fucks men), then a government elected for the people by the people. I didn’t select Peter thiel to have a say in my government. Are you saying billionaires should have no political opinion?
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519724034 [Report]
>>519723944
It’s called corporate welfare they all receives their government printed money in 2008 as well.
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519724037 [Report] >>519724162 >>519724208
>>519723944
>elon musk received government money for creating jobs
>>519723988
Correct. I'm the one who told you the government is corrupt.
Anonymous (ID: 4fnsv06+) No.519724040 [Report] >>519724157 >>519724190
>>519711262 (OP)
Opportunity cost.

The greatest power in world history (post war America) was only possible because of a robust middle class that had the greatest prosperity and opportunity available of all time.

A strong middle class with vast opportunity available to them is the greatest force in the world. All the most significant technological, scientific, and economic developments of our era came from them.

People with a high quality of life, good education, and strong support systems who were enabled and encouraged to contribute to their nation and communities.

Post 1965 or so, we've been losing that bit by bit. Nixon and Reagan were the harbingers of our current wealth inequality.

For every billionaire that exists, thousands of potential millionaires can never be. The billionaire mentality becomes exclusively about protecting their advantage over others.

We can never be great whole they exist, and certainly not in such quantity and vast scale of wealth.
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519724063 [Report]
>>519723944
Ok this is bait.
Anonymous (ID: w4L5pHsG) United States No.519724080 [Report]
>>519718452
>some were born to lead, chosen, you might say
>others were born to be slaves
>YOU MUST ACCEPT THIS
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519724099 [Report] >>519724580
>>519723995
>what is government corruption
>>519724005
Then again, your problem is with the government, not billionaires.
Anonymous (ID: TQDJbIOu) United States No.519724115 [Report]
>>519723465
We have two extremes to point to: (1) complete domination of the system by a very small number of people, or (2) a mass of perfect equality.

Both are not good. Something in-between, like a well-behaved/temperate aristocracy with a deep sense of propriety, shame and love of their people is best. This is what the founding fathers basically envisioned, based on their reading of Montesquieu. Alas, the possibility of this seems to be over now.
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519724157 [Report]
>>519724040
Yes and the failing American empire who recess everyday into the recesses of poverty will prove that.
Anonymous (ID: FQzjNBsf) United States No.519724162 [Report] >>519724214
>>519724037
When corproate money = votes the corporations are the govement. These are bootlicker 101 talking points be better
Anonymous (ID: 1FXCZ2t9) Canada No.519724180 [Report] >>519725416
>>519721365
I think we are in agreement, we just have different definitions of envy is all. I would be interested to know what root emotion you would use to describe the feeling of wanting to be able to afford healthcare, a house, a family and seeing you are getting a worse deal than your parents? IMO everything you are saying is coming from a logical perspective, and that's a good and productive way to think. There is always some emotion under what people do though. What is that emotion in this case?
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519724190 [Report]
>>519724040
Except you become a Billionnaire by making others richer so if you want more middle class people you need more billionnaires to create jobs
Anonymous (ID: DHmlGBLM) United States No.519724208 [Report]
>>519724037
>elon musk received government money for creating jobs
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519724214 [Report] >>519724296
>>519724162
>When corproate money = votes the corporations are the govement
Correct. That's called a corrupt government.
Anonymous (ID: FQzjNBsf) United States No.519724296 [Report] >>519724383
>>519724214
Corrupted by what/whom?
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519724383 [Report] >>519724462
>>519724296
Power. Influence. Money.

Being in the government should be none of these things. You are servants to the people who elected you.
Anonymous (ID: pJJdwuRP) United States No.519724459 [Report] >>519724572
>>519711262 (OP)
why do people think jobs or workers are anything but newspeak for slaves?
Anonymous (ID: FQzjNBsf) United States No.519724462 [Report] >>519724586
>>519724383
Who holds most of the power/influence/money especially in the US?
Anonymous (ID: jaCUcZel) United States No.519724550 [Report] >>519724696 >>519724852
>>519723556
I'm not a Marxist. I'm a firm believer in Austrian economics.
>>519723889
>you’re a Marxist.
You're a Keynesian, I'm an Austrian.
>Jensen Huang isn’t a Billionnaire exclusively due to fiat
If you were to adjust for inflation from before the end of the gold standard he would only be a multi-millionaire. He is a billionaire because of inflation.
>he would yield as much wealth if not more in a free market system.
Maybe, maybe not, we don't have a free market and unlike you Marxists I don't believe anything is inevitable. Without government enforced monopolies from IP, who knows what tech companies would have thrived. What is clear is that he is not currently making his fortune in a manner which would work in a free market, and is instead relying on the state to enforce a monopoly for him through IP, I haven't looked into if he gets government grants, but he probably does.
>I usually focus on supply side arguments but pol is a bit lower level so I don’t want people to get frustrated
You're probably a Keynesian on those too.
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519724572 [Report]
>>519724459
If you have a job you are the elite aristocrat
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519724580 [Report] >>519724637
>>519724099
No I have a problem with billionaires.

>Peter thiel

Wants to collect all of our data and set up ai surveillance systems in our living rooms he’s also a gay drug addict who probably fucks children

>elon musk

Autistic retard who worships kikes secretly and openly does drugs. Teslas are fucking gay and only Asians/jeets drive teslas skylink is kind of cool I guess and spacex has achieved nothing he also gets corporate welfare

>bezos

Supplies jobs for third world immigrants, trashes every town an Amazon is based in and wastes his money on a gay retried space trips for Katy perry, pretty insufferable person

>the guy that funds all the protests

Uses his money to generate nigger hoards

>bill gates

Stealing farmland from America and letting it sit empty and unused
Billionaires are awful humans provide one good thing a billionaire has done that doesn’t include Africa.
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519724586 [Report] >>519724647 >>519724671 >>519725113
>>519724462
The voter.
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519724637 [Report] >>519724778
>>519724580
All your problems with billionaires is what they do with the government. All you're doing is proving me right.
Anonymous (ID: FQzjNBsf) United States No.519724647 [Report] >>519724720 >>519724767
>>519724586
>voters corrupt politicians
Lmao. Pants on head retarded
Anonymous (ID: B+O78S6a) United States No.519724666 [Report]
>>519723599
>the guys who overwhelmingly voted against civil rights were Antifa
Okay retard
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519724671 [Report]
>>519724586
False voting is a rain dance
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519724696 [Report] >>519726364
>>519724550
It doesn’t matter how you measure the currency. Billionnaire is just a relevant term today because in today’s dollars he’s a Billionnaire. A business owner under a gold standard would also accrue vast wealth relative to the value he created.

Your ideas failed. Look at Soviet Union or North Korea. Communism doesn’t work
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519724720 [Report] >>519724861
>>519724647
This discussion appears to be over your head.
Anonymous (ID: B+O78S6a) United States No.519724723 [Report]
>>519723719
>a UK peasant doesn't know how mobile phones work
Sorry you were wrong faggot
Anonymous (ID: TQDJbIOu) United States No.519724736 [Report] >>519725901
>>519723809
> The reality is that incomes down to people. If the government is so systematically corrupt, then it's now the fault of the society people for not taking action.
Typically we would see blood, spilled by the masses. There are ways an elite can prevent this, however. One way is to simply keep them weak (as in North Korea). Huxley described how comforts and distractions can be used to achieve this. And Orwell describes how information control can be used. If people cannot communicate with each other and organize without being detected and shut down swiftly, there is no way they can collectively act to spill the blood of the elites.

Theo Von (unintentionally) said it best: “I feel like we’re ruled by people and we don’t even know who they are”

Indeed. In the Middle Ages, if the serfs were unsatisfied with the monarch, they knew where to organize and where to go to revolt. Meanwhile, today nobody knows where to even go, or who is really in charge. And even if they did know, they couldn’t communicate with each other about it without our tech overlords detecting it, labeling it “hate speech/conspiracy/etc…” and shutting it down before enough people organize to be effective.
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519724767 [Report] >>519724918
>>519724647
Take meds conspiracy nut lol
Anonymous (ID: B+O78S6a) United States No.519724776 [Report] >>519724837
>>519723757
Because clearly they don't, or they would've. Kind of kills your whole narrative doesn't it bud?
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519724778 [Report] >>519724820 >>519724921
>>519724637
I just explained to you why I didn’t like them as individuals. There’s not a single billionaire who I like as a person. Not to mention they probably all fuck children at one point in time. You’re just blatantly ignoring my point to be a contrarian. It’s okay
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519724820 [Report] >>519724964
>>519724778
What about Jensen Huang or Bernard Arnault
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519724837 [Report] >>519724885
>>519724776
You’re a low iq nigger or a child if you don’t see the influence billionaires have over government.
Anonymous (ID: B+O78S6a) United States No.519724852 [Report] >>519726364
>>519724550
>I'm not a Marxist
>posts nothing but Marxist propaganda and buzz words
Anonymous (ID: FQzjNBsf) United States No.519724861 [Report] >>519724976
>>519724720
>politicians getting rich by (voters?) Paying them large sums of money to distribute corporate welfare is what corrupts them
Yeah we're done. You'll need to pass the beginner class first in order to continue
Anonymous (ID: B+O78S6a) United States No.519724885 [Report] >>519725055
>>519724837
Yes it's the billionaires fault you can't play Xbox all day, retard
Anonymous (ID: FQzjNBsf) United States No.519724918 [Report] >>519725138
>>519724767
This isn't saying anything. Let me guess you work in pharmaceuticals?
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519724921 [Report] >>519725151
>>519724778
And all your explanations are tied to the government on some matter, thus proving my point. No, the billionaires don't set h1b visa or migration numbers.
Anonymous (ID: TQDJbIOu) United States No.519724954 [Report] >>519726088
>>519723992
That’s not true. It’s to preserve the peace. And doing so requires protecting the property of the rich, so they don’t feel they must use violence to do so—but also to ensure basic rights are sustained by the masses, so they don’t revolt. A good state can maintain an equilibrium. Ever so often a relocation will occur to reset if the aristocracy has become unconstrained. This is how it has worked in the West for millennia. (You are a jeet so maybe you don’t know this.)

We are tipping in the direction of violating the basic rights of the masses. The difference this time is that through information control we have made revolutions impossible.
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519724964 [Report]
>>519724820
I can’t say there’s anything about them I dislike. Other than being capitalist dogs, but that’s pretty much anyone in the western hemisphere,
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519724976 [Report] >>519725090 >>519725215
>>519724861
>politicians getting rich
Yeah. You are done.
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519725055 [Report] >>519725204
>>519724885
Nice irrelevant statement that has nothing to do with the topic, also consoles are for plebeians.
Anonymous (ID: FQzjNBsf) United States No.519725090 [Report] >>519725322
>>519724976
So politicians arent getting rich? Didn't you just say they were and that's why government is corrupt? How's that brain rot treating you?
Anonymous (ID: TQDJbIOu) United States No.519725113 [Report] >>519725322
>>519724586
The parties and their billionaire donors hold the power, you absolute fucking retard.
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519725138 [Report] >>519725167
>>519724918
No I just think you’re dumb
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519725151 [Report] >>519725322
>>519724921
The government and billionaires are a symbiotic relationship Anon. I’m sorry you aren’t educated enough or high iq to understand on your own. Maybe go do some reading
Anonymous (ID: FQzjNBsf) United States No.519725167 [Report]
>>519725138
>I think
Nobody cares
Anonymous (ID: hKEZXJcF) Poland No.519725186 [Report]
>>519715285
Go earn a billion with your own two hands working for another guy.
I'll wait.
Anonymous (ID: B+O78S6a) United States No.519725204 [Report] >>519725290
>>519725055
Yes, consoles are for plebians, that's why I called you out for wanting to play one all day while on government gibbs. Nobody employed or non peasant would believe your garbage.

Sorry you're jealous and paranoid of the wealthy and successful. I'm sure being a retard online is going to help remedy that affliction.
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519725215 [Report]
>>519724976
Insider trading is the #1 way politicians get rich and it’s because their symbiotic relationship with corpos
Anonymous (ID: 1gD5+VCd) United States No.519725251 [Report] >>519725433
Because these niggers don't actually put basically any of that money back into the economy, they hoard it because they're obsessed with having the big number. The value they hold doesn't do shit for anybody and just continues to consolidate at the top. There's literally no fucking reason for Elon to have more money than half of the rest of the country put together.
Anonymous (ID: QlnoPRZT) United States No.519725271 [Report]
tax evasion and policy influence outside of voting
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519725290 [Report] >>519725435
>>519725204
Kek. You work in an office or some type of fake gig economy job I can tell. Maybe it’s marketing?
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519725322 [Report] >>519725386 >>519725514 >>519725533
>>519725090
No, I didn't. I said the problems are because of government, not billionaires. I'm done with you, you obviously have a reading comprehension problem.
>>519725113
>>519725151
>the corrupt government is the problem
Correct.
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519725386 [Report] >>519725463
>>519725322
The government and the billionaires are a symbiotic relationship. What that means is one cannot exist without the other (in America)
Anonymous (ID: uWWf/r+s) United States No.519725416 [Report] >>519725964 >>519726224
>>519724180
I want to be favorable of myself, I have bias of course, but it goes between desperation (I don't want to be renting forever, I don't want to die by avoiding health care because I don't want a huge bill, I don't want to die without a legacy to leave) and righteous indignation (I spend most of my life on work, I'm good at what I do, and I worked for years to advance where I am, I should be able to afford a house like my father did). Billionaires don't factor in, people who make more than me aren't the issue by itself. The next step is bringing these issues to the investors, owners, and CEOs that serve them. Noticing that "self made billionaires" are super rare and half the pie is being owned by fewer people, more conglomerates, spells an obstacle that isn't looked at with envy, it's the feeling you get looking at cheater. They tell you why things are the way they are and likely now you're looking at them how you would look at a liar. They try to sell you a noble lie, but all you're asking for is the stability and safety you parents had. You aren't envious of their billions, you just know where those billions came from.
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519725433 [Report]
>>519725251
That’s exactly why billionnaires are good. They don’t waste the money on stupid shit

Give money to a poor or middle class person they will waste it on dumb shit
Anonymous (ID: B+O78S6a) United States No.519725435 [Report] >>519725554
>>519725290
>angry gibs rat says what?
Anonymous (ID: j6h5kiqg) United States No.519725451 [Report]
>>519711262 (OP)
greed does nothing for the greater good of humanity
but the left are just as greedy since they see a billionaire and want his money
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519725463 [Report] >>519725624
>>519725386
>the corrupt government in bed with billionaires is the problem
Correct.
Anonymous (ID: FQzjNBsf) United States No.519725514 [Report] >>519725583 >>519725871
>>519725322
Nah I can read just fine. You are claiming voters are the ones corrupting politicians and facilitating corporate welfare to the detriment of working class voters. Thus is why I recommend passing bootlicking 101 before continuing
Anonymous (ID: QlnoPRZT) United States No.519725533 [Report] >>519725583 >>519725590
>>519725322
whotf GOT HIS OWN DEPARTMENT IN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT other than RICH BUDDY BOY Elon? Not elected, got to lead a gov agency just for being rich and friends with trump.
at least the Dems TRY to hide their billionaire connections
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519725554 [Report] >>519725908
>>519725435
Okay lotion hands I build houses you type on a keyboard
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519725583 [Report] >>519725749
>>519725514
>You are claiming voters are the ones corrupting politicians
lol
>>519725533
Thank you for proving my point with a good example.
Anonymous (ID: B+O78S6a) United States No.519725590 [Report] >>519725673
>>519725533
>mad liberal mad
Lmao, sorry they canceled your USAID
Anonymous (ID: 1gD5+VCd) United States No.519725624 [Report] >>519725678 >>519725721
>>519725463
Nigger how the fuck are you not understanding that taking advantage of a corrupt government also makes you a corrupt piece of shit? The billionaires are fucking complicit you utter retard
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519725673 [Report] >>519725990
>>519725590
Your money has no value Anon. I hope you invest in assets because when the US dollar collapses only asset holder might have something
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519725678 [Report] >>519725809 >>519725839
>>519725624
Billionaires don't pass laws. Government does.
Anonymous (ID: kLooiLPK) No.519725701 [Report] >>519725918
>>519718452
You are exactly the kind of goyim golem the jews love. You literally want to be a slave lmao.
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519725721 [Report]
>>519725624
He’s just a contrarian most likey samefagging with multiple vpns and Memeflags
Anonymous (ID: FQzjNBsf) United States No.519725749 [Report]
>>519725583
I asked who holds the power to corrupt (enrich) politicians and you said voters. I take it back, you need a lobotomy
Anonymous (ID: 1gD5+VCd) United States No.519725809 [Report] >>519725827
>>519725678
When the billionaires are pissing money to make sure the laws they want pass, the billionaires become part of the fucking problem.
Anonymous (ID: vC5IcisS) United States No.519725827 [Report] >>519725973
>>519725809
>corrupt government is the problem
Correct.
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519725839 [Report]
>>519725678
The billionaires use their unlimited money for nefarious reasons. I agree with you the government is the problem we should be imposing laws on the billionaires and extracting their wealth they have. I to am a Marxist.
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519725871 [Report] >>519725970 >>519726028
>>519725514
You are bootlicking the voters you’re a bootlicker
Anonymous (ID: PQvbIVHn) Canada No.519725901 [Report]
>>519724736
To add to this I would say it's also the lose of religious communites as well. Men used to hang out after Church on Sundays and talk about community events, politics, work, etc. Women also with their own clubs. I have a conspiracy that the powers that be pushed people out of attending mass on Sundays by pushing more forced over time as means dissolve these groups.
You have families interacting with their neighbors less which pushes them online to fill that void passively via Facebook, Reddit, etc. All those online communities are easily monitored and can be manipulated by forces acting in bad faith.
It's because of this that I feel like Muslims are a bigger threat because they haven't lost their religious community and so are better organized to push their agendas in the west.
Anonymous (ID: B+O78S6a) United States No.519725908 [Report] >>519726034
>>519725554
*clean
You *clean houses, anon
You're a janitor bud
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519725918 [Report]
>>519725701
You are what we call a champagne socialist.

You are the dirtbag elite but still virtue signal
Anonymous (ID: kLooiLPK) No.519725935 [Report] >>519726075
>>519720815
Except they don't. They are literally trying to bring jeets in to have a slave class. Either you're delusional, an idiot or a troll, possibly all 3.
Anonymous (ID: uWWf/r+s) United States No.519725964 [Report]
>>519725416
I'd like to add in this dying thread that framing it as "envy" has been a trick of the right and of the rich. It can be just semantics, but the word denotes a moral failing on those who hold it. "Fairness" is cucked language. "Entitlement" makes you seem like a brat even if you're purple prose writing about white male "birthright". Boiling it down to emotions is a pitfall, it really is a logical issue.
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519725970 [Report]
>>519725871
Anyone who argues with this retard just know he sits on pol every single day with this same memeflag being a contrarian faggot, I’m not sure if he gets paid or not but he’s defiantly not an organic poster at all.
Anonymous (ID: 1gD5+VCd) United States No.519725973 [Report]
>>519725827
Nigger they're two sides of the same fucking coin, they're propping each other up, sucking off billionaires isn't going to make you rich
Anonymous (ID: B+O78S6a) United States No.519725990 [Report] >>519726336
>>519725673
Have you stocked up on your mop assets? Because nothing is going to happen the dollar, but you cleaning the floor will
Anonymous (ID: FQzjNBsf) United States No.519726028 [Report] >>519726191
>>519725871
I'm a voter. Of course im on the side of voters not corporate welfare that voters can't vote on. Jesus Christ you bootlickers are dumb. You really think they're gonna let you into their club don't you?
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519726034 [Report] >>519726099
>>519725908
Yes I have 10,000$ worth of tools to clean houses. I’m sorry you never reached masculinity because you have a desk job and pay people to change your oil.
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519726075 [Report] >>519726151 >>519726280
>>519725935
Why should a random factory worker be richer than a King? Why should a random factory worker be richer than Bezos??

Actually you have the literal communist flag you are a ragebaitor
Anonymous (ID: AR8/MHfm) India No.519726088 [Report]
>>519724954
>It’s to preserve the peace. And doing so requires protecting the property of the rich, so they don’t feel they must use violence to do so

Lmfao. "Preserving the property of the rich" is the source of most of global violence. The rich do not have a monopoly on violence if the rest don't side with their bs. A sheer power imbalance is not an equilibrium. And the way you phrase all this sounds like the sustainance of basic rights ultimately serves to preserve the rich anyway. Which was the point I was trying to make in the first place.
Anonymous (ID: B+O78S6a) United States No.519726099 [Report] >>519726416
>>519726034
Wow mops are expensive anon
Anonymous (ID: FQzjNBsf) United States No.519726151 [Report]
>>519726075
>its hard to talk on the phone
Lol ai is definitely replacing your job first
Anonymous (ID: 2CpXTFyX) No.519726191 [Report] >>519726341 >>519726573
>>519726028
Holy shit you’re dumb
.
Your parents who own businesses and lobby will eventually pass their money to you.

You’re not middle class you’re just young. You will inherit theyre money stupid. You are the dirtbag elite.

Keep bootlicking the people who want you dead
Anonymous (ID: 1FXCZ2t9) Canada No.519726224 [Report] >>519726551
>>519725416
Maybe you are right. I don't think desperation or even righteous indignation are what lead to change really. They're definitely there though. I think I would more readily classify the way I feel about a cheater or a liar is with contempt than envy. Contempt might fuel some change. I guess maybe it's really only the most extreme people who in the end are primarily driven by envy, with the desperate, indignant and contemptuous refusing to do anything to restrain them. Thanks.
Anonymous (ID: 1gD5+VCd) United States No.519726280 [Report]
>>519726075
Maybe because kings didn't actually fucking do shit to earn their wealth, they were literally fucking born into it because that's how monarchies work. You literally picked like the worst possible example to make your point lmao
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519726336 [Report]
>>519725990
Kek the dollar is worth 6% less than it was last year and steadily projected to drop. It is slowly but steadily losing its place as reserve currency. The power of the dollar has dropped immensely in 20 years.
Anonymous (ID: FQzjNBsf) United States No.519726341 [Report]
>>519726191
Nah im not a nepo baby. And I'll still have value as a worker once they get ai to manage the spreadsheets. Im still not gonna work for you though kek
Anonymous (ID: jaCUcZel) United States No.519726364 [Report]
>>519724696
>It doesn’t matter how you measure the currency.
You keep saying this Keynesian shit. Why don't you admit you're a Keynesian?
>A business owner under a gold standard would also accrue vast wealth relative to the value he created.
Yes, rich people can exist in a free market. We do not have a free market, so the ultra rich who arise in this government controlled centrally managed economy are unlikely to thrive in a truly free market. You're acting like a member of some economic planning committee in Soviet Russia was rich because of the free market.
>Your ideas failed.
Free markets were wildly successful during the 19th century. Freer markets could have been more successful, but your Keynesian crap became en vogue in governments and it's not quite destructive enough to just fail like communism, so the market can just barely limp along for decades, never quite failing hard enough to make them stop.
>>519724852
So free markets, sound money, and opposition to government intervention in the economy are Marxist buzzwords and propaganda now?
Anonymous (ID: iNOi1Tqj) United States No.519726416 [Report]
>>519726099
>t. Man who has never touched a tool in his life
Anonymous (ID: 1gD5+VCd) United States No.519726483 [Report]
Real talk I'm genuinely glad to see the majority of people rightfully giving OP shit for being a retard
Anonymous (ID: uWWf/r+s) United States No.519726551 [Report]
>>519726224
Thank you too. It's not often I get to discuss this. It helps me understand the issue better, even how I see it and describe it as well as of course how others see it. I mean it, thank you.
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>>519726191
You assumed his parent own anything you’re retarded. The poor have nothing to lose and the rich have a lot to take, it’s a tale as old as time, the masses of poor will eventually swallow the rich