Thread 519764210

Let's say you are in a zoo. And a chimp starts flinging his excrement at you.

Sure, you will be very annoyed. But at the same time you know it's in his nature. Like it is in our nature to build and create things.

So do you really hate the chimp?

>>519764210 (OP)
Hate is usufel for doing diamond push ups like a insane maniac

>>519764210 (OP)
Change the analogy.
Say you have a rat infestation. Do you hate the rats for doing what they do to survive? Not really, but you still get rid of the infestation and exterminate them.

No. You don’t hate the chimp because you understand it’s a chimp… You only hate what you don’t understand… because to know something is to have power over it.

>>519764210 (OP)
Hate is only useful when you are out in streets killing each others

>>519764210 (OP)
It's not very useful, it's self destructive

>>519764418
Mosquitoes is a better equivalent since they are a returning menace and not a one-time thing you deal with, which doesn't evolve into hatred of it the same way.

>>519764450
i will hate the zoo keepers for not keeping chimp comfy so he wont attack

>>519764210 (OP)
If I'm told by leaders that the chimp is the same as me and I should just accept getting shit thrown at me than yes i think hating the chimp is justified.

>>519764210 (OP)
>you control reality by your reaction to it
You should read Aurelius’s meditations.

>>519764210 (OP)
Your mentality is that of a cuck.
If you rape the chimp he won't do it again.

>>519764861
But if the zoo keeper spends more resources on the chimp just to keep him happy, how is that fair to the other animals who are more well behaved?

>>519764210 (OP)
having chimp shit thrown on you isnt really that bad so no

>>519764861
I hate your mom because she won't have sex with me

>>519764861
Because you don’t understand the zoo keepers.

>>519764210 (OP)
>How useful is hate?

you MUST be joking

>>519764450
Quite the opposite. Hate is a love known. Hate isn't useful beyond digging a mass grave. The kind of grave that you dig by loving the things you hate so chimps destroy those. If you knew the truth, you'd hate even more.

>>519765462
You sound like you write slam poetry

>>519765377
>you MUST be joking
To be honest, no. I do know the feeling can be very exhausting.

>>519764789
I still don't hate mosquitos.
In the moment they frustrate you, but once they're gone there's no hate for them, at least for me.
Also rats do come back depending on several factors.
It's not the best analogy as rats are pretty intelligent as well, but details.

>>519765229
Speaking of bad examples, yours is getting worse.
If the lion gets his meat and has his space, he's happy. He doesn't care if the chimp's food costs 5x more than his. Allocating more financial resources to the lion does not improve his quality of life, given that zoos are often limited in their space allocation so you can't just give him a bigger environment to roam / that would also take away the "zoo" aspect.

>>519766046
Hate can be useful as a short term motivator or impulse, if controlled. If uncontrolled, it can burn you much like uncontrolled fire.
It's not a long term motivation though, for that you should turn to love of God, love of family, love of nation (people), creative endeavors, etc.
Love of family can elicit the same response as hatred of the Other; to protect your family you remove the threat, and to remove the source of your hatred you remove the threat. But after the threat is dealt with, the hate motivation of elimination of the target leaves you feeling empty, whereas the motivation of love gives you a continuance.